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Endure the insults, Muslims told

2012-09-21 09:45

Cairo - Muslims angered by cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad should follow his example of enduring insults without retaliating, Egypt's highest Islamic legal official said.

Western embassies tightened security in Sanaa, fearing the cartoons published in a French magazine on Wednesday could lead to more unrest in the Yemeni capital where crowds attacked the US mission last week over an anti-Islam film made in America.

In the latest of a wave of protests against that video in the Islamic world, several thousand Shi'ite Muslims demonstrated in the northern Nigerian town of Zaria, burning an effigy of US President Barack Obama and crying "Death to America".

In the Pakistani capital, about 1 000 stone-throwing protesters clashed with police as they tried to force their way to the US embassy on Thursday and the government shut down mobile phone services in more than a dozen cities as part of security arrangements ahead of protests expected on Friday.

The US embassy in Pakistan has been running television advertisements, one featuring Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, emphasising that the US government had nothing to do with the film.

The US and French embassies were closed on Friday in Jakarta, capital of Indonesia, which has the world's biggest Muslim population, and diplomatic missions in the Afghan capital, Kabul, were on lock-down.

The cartoons in France's Charlie Hebdo satirical weekly have provoked relatively little street anger, although about 100 Iranians demonstrated outside the French embassy in Tehran.

In Tunisia, the birthplace of the Arab Spring revolts, the Islamist-led government decreed a ban on protests planned on Friday against the cartoons. Four people died and almost 30 were wounded last week when protesters incensed by the movie about the Prophet Mohammad stormed the US embassy.

Worst insults

An Islamist activist called for attacks in France to avenge the perceived insult to Islam by the "slaves of the cross".

Mu'awiyya al-Qahtani said on a website used by Islamist militants and monitored by the US-based SITE intelligence group: "Is there someone who will roll up his sleeves and bring back to us the glory of the hero Mohammed Merah?"

He was referring to an al-Qaeda-inspired gunman who killed seven people, including three Jewish children, in the southern French city of Toulouse in March.

Condemning the publication of the cartoons in France as an act verging on incitement, Egypt's Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa said on Thursday it showed how polarised the West and the Muslim world had become.

Gomaa said Mohammad and his companions had endured "the worst insults from the non-believers of his time. Not only was his message routinely rejected, but he was often chased out of town, cursed and physically assaulted on numerous occasions.

"But his example was always to endure all personal insults and attacks without retaliation of any sort. There is no doubt that, since the Prophet is our greatest example in this life, this should also be the reaction of all Muslims."

His statement echoed one by Al Azhar, Egypt's prestigious seat of Sunni learning, which condemned the caricatures showing the Prophet naked but said any protest should be peaceful.

An official at the Coptic Orthodox Church in Egypt, whose population of 83 million people is 10% Christian, also condemned the cartoons as insults to Islam.

Last week, some Egyptian protesters scaled the US Embassy walls and tore down the flag. They clashed with police for four days, although most of the thousands of Egyptians who took to the streets did so peacefully.

Muslim grievances

Gomaa said insults to Islam and the response, including the killing of the US ambassador in Libya and attacks on other Western embassies in the region, could not be dissociated from other points of conflict between the West and the Muslim world.

He cited the treatment of Muslims at the US detention centre in Guantanamo, the US-led war in Iraq, drone attacks in Yemen and Pakistan, and the demonisation of Muslims by far-right European parties as "underlying factors" for the tension.

"To then insist on igniting these simmering tensions by publishing hurtful and insulting material in a foolhardy attempt at bravado - asserting the superiority of Western freedoms over alleged Muslim closed-mindedness - verges on incitement," he said in his statement published on the Reuters blog FaithWorld.

After the invasion of the US embassy in Tunis on Friday last week, the Tunisian Interior Ministry has banned protests against the cartoon this Friday "to prevent human and material losses".

The European Union issued a joint appeal, through its foreign policy chief, with the Arab League, African Union and Organisation of Islamic Co-operation for "peace and tolerance".

"We condemn any advocacy of religious hatred that constitutes incitement to hostility and violence," the EU said.

"While fully recognising freedom of expression, we believe in the importance of respecting all prophets, regardless of which religion they belong to."

Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Ramin Mehmanparast, condemned the cartoons as "a systematic plot" against Islam.

"The co-ordinated and continued silence of Western countries towards these hateful anti-Islamic actions, is the primary reason for the repetition of such insulting actions," he said.

Deeply undemocratic countries

He was speaking a day after French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius called the publication of the cartoons a provocation.

The Danish cartoonist who outraged Muslims with a drawing of the Prophet seven years ago said the West could not let itself be muzzled by fear of offending Islamic sensibilities.

Kurt Westergaard, whose lampoon of Mohammad in the Jyllands-Posten paper nearly got him killed by an axe-wielding assassin in 2010, told Austrian magazine News he had no regrets about his work and said freedom of speech was too precious to relinquish.

"Should we in future let ourselves be censored by Islamic authorities in deeply undemocratic countries?" he asked.

For many Muslims, any depiction of Muhammad is blasphemous.

The furore over the anti-Islam film and the cartoons has presented a tough challenge to new authorities in Arab countries where popular uprisings have overthrown entrenched autocrats.

In Libya, where militias that helped overthrow Muammar Gaddafi still wield much power, the foreign minister offered a further apology for US ambassador Christopher Stevens' death to visiting US Deputy Secretary of State William Burns on Thursday.

Stevens and three other Americans died in an attack on the US consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi by gunmen among a crowd protesting against the film that denigrated the Prophet.

Comments
  • Jeremy - 2012-09-21 10:08

    This is a very welcome and rational response from Egypt's new leadership - and supports the view that the majority of Muslims are tolerant peace-loving people. It's a pity in this day and age that there is a radical fringe group of Jihadists who firmly believe that everyone who isn't a Muslim is an "unbeliever" and should be killed. I fully accept that different religions have different prophets, whether it's Mohammed or Jesus, but surely it's time for everyone to accept that IF there's a God, there's only one God - and for different religions to fight over him/her is simply ignorant and pathetic!

      jaco.duplessis2 - 2012-09-21 10:21

      Jeremy - agree. But is also time that people respect other people's religion/s. Why on earth would one see the need to redicule or insult other people's religion?

      punkdrachel - 2012-09-21 12:03

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      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:10

      I am a muslim. I love the messenger of God more than my mother and father. Insult my mother and I will be upset. I don't see the joke. I will never harm an innocent person, but you have all forgotten the victim here. I wish nobdy is ever insulted in this way. Watch the divine book on youtube. Peace to all.

      ppisciotta - 2012-09-27 14:27

      Tabib - Islam will never gain honest respect in the world until Muslims explain how a 53 year old man could sleep with a 9 year old and that be considered acceptable. No wonder Muslims must use the sword to convince the rest of humanity that it's beliefs are worthwhile. Islam will never gain honest respect in the world until its treatment of women is improved. I detest what Islam teaches and the actions of these idiots who have nothing else better to do than murder innocent people because of some stupid film or cartoon that perhps speaks more truth about the "prophet" than Muslims are capable of accepting. Theirs is a miserable life. No need to make the world miserable because of it. I am not obliged to honor your so called 'prophet'. He is a dead Arab in my book. He has no impact upon me whatsoever and I deserve the right to live safely with having no interest nor respect for Islam.

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-09-27 14:55

      A Muslin who reacts calmly and gives sound advice to his people! Great stuff! I didn't think they existed. Well done!

  • Jeremy - 2012-09-21 10:17

    Sorry, I'm being a bit wordy this morning, but I'd like to add something to my previous post. Eight innocent, hard-working South Africans were killed in Kabul a couple of days ago by a Jihadist suicide bomber. Wouldn't it be nice if a Muslim leader in this country were to actually take a stand and speak out publicly against this wanton act and the loss of (South African) life!

      haffejee - 2012-09-21 10:38

      Hi Jeremy. I personally have written to the bodies of our muslim clerics asking for them to come out in piblic and condemn these acts of violence and esp the bombing in which we lost 8 of our South Africans. Most of us Muslims are not radicals and we do not believe in violence. I sincerly hope that all these people who insult our religion and esp our Prophets will take the time and get to know us muslims on a personal basis before spewing all this hatred. On behalf of the muslim community in South Africa, we send our deepest and most sincere condolences to the families and friends of our 8 south africans who died earlier this week in Kabul.

      customdesign - 2012-09-21 10:50

      They did, http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Cape-Town-mosque-condemns-Kabul-blast-20120919

      Jeremy - 2012-09-21 10:54

      Hi Haffejee, Thank you for your response. As someone who runs a community radio station, one of the nicest, kindest and most gentlemanly people I know is a senior manager at Radio Islam. I agree with you that the majority of Muslims don't believe in violence...I just wish they would, like you, speak out publicly against the violence. There's an old saying "sticks and stones will break my bones - but words will never hurt me...."

      eseedat - 2012-09-21 11:32

      Well said Jeremy. I have been saying all along. The violence is being perpetrated by less than 10% of the muslims and its that 10% or so that the media is focusing on. Why dont the media report positively on the 90% that are non violent. By the way at Friday prayer last week, our Imaam did condemn the violence.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-09-21 13:33

      Eseedat - You are correct , Libyans marched in support of the US , apologised and have been sending a very clear message of condemnation and anti-violence. This must underlined and promoted more in the media , its like the media not focusing on the 99.9999999% of people not involved in making the film. Unfortunately as the islamic world tells us there are 1.5 billion Muslims , 10% of that is the same amount of people as three countries the size of SA . Thats a fairly concerning thought which propagate misconceptions.

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:11

      I am a muslim. I love the messenger of God more than my mother and father. Insult my mother and I will be upset. I don't see the joke. I will never harm an innocent person, but you have all forgotten the victim here. I wish nobdy is ever insulted in this way. Watch the divine book on youtube. Peace to all.

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-09-27 14:57

      Well said Jeremy!

  • dean.mark.williams - 2012-09-21 10:22

    Someone gonna get a hurt reeeeeeeeal bad.... Someone....

  • John - 2012-09-21 10:31

    When people swear, the blaspheme the name of Jesus...NOT Mohammed or any other "deity." That in itself should say something to everyone out there. If a God needs us pathetic mere mortals to protect it, then it is obviously NOT a God then, is it? Looking at the Muslims worldwide and the pictures on the news, peace is the last thing on their minds. They are a blood-thirsty bunch with no tolerance for anyone else on the planet. THey see every non-muslim as infidels and we should all be wiped out, if they could get their way. If anyone has the right to be offended it is Christians whose saviour is the most mocked being in the Universe. Yet, we do not go around killing or burning or trashing. All this behaviour is just so un-Godly. No wonder there are so many atheists and people who shun religion nowadays. I can't blame them. I surely would NOT want to associate with such religious "zealots!"

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:11

      I am a muslim. I love the messenger of God more than my mother and father. Insult my mother and I will be upset. I don't see the joke. I will never harm an innocent person, but you have all forgotten the victim here. I wish nobdy is ever insulted in this way. Watch the divine book on youtube. Peace to all.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-21 10:38

    'oh you who believe,stand out firmly for Allah and be just witnesses' Islam doesnt allow us to act on assumptions.If the US is not responsible,it wud b against Islam to accuse them for a crime they didnt commit.If the wrong people r blamed for the wrong crime,then its unjust,and the real culprits get away.I believe this movie was sinisterly conspired by a sinister group to incite tension bet Islam and the US.

  • julie.meissenheimer - 2012-09-21 10:41

    but.....they can blow up innocent people. These people have no morals. Whats good for the goose....

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-09-21 11:03

      Julie, South Africans kill at least 42 other South Africans (including 2 children) every day of the year. We need to take a hard look at ourselves...

      Jeremy - 2012-09-21 11:16

      Yes squeegee, but that's just crime. We don't kill people simply because they belong to a different religion.

      ashraaf.fakier - 2012-09-21 11:52

      so does the US and its allies with their drones, more so.

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:13

      Only a fool will learn Islam from those fighting a war on every Muslim nation. In Islam, the sin of killing one innocent person is the same as killing all of mankind. The Messenger of God will testify against a muslim who kills an innocent non-muslim on the day of Judgement. It appears that the hatred you have for Islam is now open. You have made your choice. Peace.

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-09-21 10:52

    The world wide image of Islam is not pleasant. Seemingly mindless and random suicide bombers, oppression of women, intolerance of other religions, sectarian hatred and violence. Thank Jesus I don't live in a Muslim country.

      arthur.vass.1 - 2012-09-21 12:54

      @Hanif. What you say is a blatant lie concerning non Muslims living in Muslim countries. They suffer severe persecution. In Iran and Afghanistan Christians are persecuted and even face the death penalty for simply being Christian. Recently a Christian pastor called Yusuf [can't remember his surname] faced the death penalty because he questioned the school for teaching his children Islam while the constitution allowed freedom of religion. From that time in 2009 he was imprisoned and sentenced to death. It was only international pressure on Iran that finally got him released after 3 years. The charges he faced changed many times and the last one was apostasy- They said he tried to convince Muslims to become Christian. His story was covered by FOX news.

      yusufchinyengetere - 2012-09-21 20:25

      People should try to understand one thing, there is a big difference between shiite(20%) and sunni muslims(80%). They hold different islamic views a lot. Thats why you see saudi arabia never supports Taliban, al-shabaab nd al-Qaeda militants, and the Iranian government. And saudi arabia is against terrorism. Those terorists some dont care whether you a muslim or not, they will kill you as long you dont share their extremist views.

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:14

      Only a fool will learn Islam from those fighting a war on every Muslim nation. In Islam, the sin of killing one innocent person is the same as killing all of mankind. The Messenger of God will testify against a muslim who kills an innocent non-muslim on the day of Judgement. It appears that the hatred you have for Islam is now open. You have made your choice. Watch the divine book on youtube. Peace.

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  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-09-21 10:53

    Bottom line is NO MATTER which religion you belong to,it does NOT give you the right to kill innocents just because they "mock" your religion.There will unfortunately NEVER be FUll religious respect and tolerance to others,however if you are prepared to murder someone over an insult-then you CANNOT stand or represent ANYTHING which is good. These Muslims do more harm to their own religion.

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:14

      Only a fool will learn Islam from those fighting a war on every Muslim nation. In Islam, the sin of killing one innocent person is the same as killing all of mankind. The Messenger of God will testify against a muslim who kills an innocent non-muslim on the day of Judgement. It appears that the hatred you have for Islam is now open. You have made your choice. Watch the divine book on youtube Peace.

  • Michael - 2012-09-21 11:00

    Now this is refreshing!!

  • ashraaf.fakier - 2012-09-21 11:08

    Many clerics condemmed the violence in Kabul and the ME, and the Grand Mufti from Al Azhar in Cairo clearly depicts the life of the Prophet (pbuh) as a peaceful man. A Man (not a god)who has faced the worse isults and injury during his life in the spreading of the message of Islam. Today there are 2 billion muslims. The values and beliefs of the world and the agnostic secularist existentialist is devoid of faith. a Complete opposite of Muslim values and beliefs that are inspired by devine revelation and the example of the prophet. True understanding of Islam is only possible when you embrace islam not when you observe it from the outside. Therein lies the problem of understanding and manner in which Muslim societies are polarised. The Ottoman Empire was more successfull in occupation because they were fair in the manner in which they treated non-muslims and therefore ruled for 600 years. There was peace on earth for 600 years during their reign. Now there are conflicts on every corner of the globe. Tollerance and respect is needed and true understanding.

      phae.rayden - 2012-09-21 11:24

      True understanding of Islam is only possible when you embrace islam not when you observe it from the outside - this is exactly what our 'slaves to the cross' say about Christianity, could you all be wrong? I don't doubt it for a moment. I'll leave the experts to contradict your statement of 600 years of peace under Islamic rule.

      ashraaf.fakier - 2012-09-21 11:51

      Muslims when it comes to their Deen (religion) are easily influenced to act in a manner that is perceived by the west to be extreme. When believing in one god and his prophet and praying 5x a day and being generous by giving to the poor, once in a life time going on pilgrimage is being fanatical then I am fanatical about my religion. However, having said that, doesn't mean I agree with suicide bombing nor in violence which is totally unacceptable anywhere in the world. what about the hate crime in South Africa where a muslim was killed simply because of his beard. @ phae.rayden many orientalist are cosulted on the basis of their knowledge, often mistakenly so because you cannot truely understand a people from the outside observing them unless you have adopted their way or belief. My point is muslms are misunderstood and that is our fault.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-21 13:13

      ashraaf for your info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-21 13:16

      ashraaf. Peace on earth for 600 years under Ottoman rule??? You must go and lie to somebody else. The occupation of the Balkans, the Siege of Vienna come to mind etc.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-21 13:24

      Ashraaf. The massacre of the Armenians. The occupation of the whole Middle East . . . . . . .

      stand.firm.50 - 2012-09-21 13:55

      Ashraaf you are using Tqyia the Ottoman Empire was Evil. This happens when you only use Muslim sources. How can one be living Fair when Christian and Jews were made to be Dhimmis (second hand citizen) uhmmm apartheid comes to mind, your story is as far fetched as your profits Night trip to the Sacred Mosque Masjid al-Aqsa even Ayisha his beloved much younger wife said that the profit was sleeping next to her the whole night uhm!!! bad dream maybe?

      yusufchinyengetere - 2012-09-21 17:05

      @stand firm...you said the Night Trip to Masjidul Aqsa happened while aisha was already married to Mohammed...N0..that trip happened when prophet was married to Khadija, his first wife...Aisha was not even born by that time...try to read from better sources...

      ashraaf.fakier - 2012-09-22 12:15

      Histoy is relative to who is telling it,but what is clear to see in the last hundred years, has been the most violent times in the history of man. The shear number of humans killed is unspeakable during both world wars. The level of conflicts around the Globe is astounding, all perpertrated in the name of Peace and Democracy.

  • nicholas.breakey - 2012-09-21 11:58

    At least there are some in the muslim community with rational views hope it gets through to the rest but I doubt it will, it is likely we are headed for a clash.

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:16

      Only a fool will learn Islam from those fighting a war on every Muslim nation. In Islam, the sin of killing one innocent person is the same as killing all of mankind. The Messenger of God will testify against a muslim who kills an innocent non-muslim on the day of Judgement. It appears that the hatred you have for Islam is now open. You have made your choice. Watch the divine book on youtube Peace.

  • tolo.maano - 2012-09-21 12:01

    Something is wrong here they insult JESUS CHRIST they say is not son GOD is a prophet...we dnt kill....they say is did'nt rose he was stolen...we did'nt kill...they says he was married and he has a son ....we did'nt kill....they say his surname is HYNES...we still we did'nt kill....- wonder allah what he says about this killings...I know my GOD he could be shame of this behavior....y cnt thy accept that we all b insulted in some how.

      ashraaf.fakier - 2012-09-21 12:24

      We will never insult Jesus, shows your ignorance about Islam. His name is mentioned more times in the Holy Quran than Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), in addition there is a whole chapter devoted to the miracle birth and it is cAlled Surah Mariam (Chapter Mary). Read the Quran perhaps you will get greater insight into how we hold him in such high regard.

      nom.deplume.969 - 2012-09-21 15:17

      @ashraaf - there ia also a sura (43:61) that verifies the biblical account of His return one day at the end time. Sadly it ends with encouraging muslims to follow Mohammed, who is dead, instead of Jesus, who is alive...Also, you do insult Jesus. You deny His Deity and reject Him as the Son of God - that is an insult. You hold His humanity in high regard but not His Lordship over all... God Himself said "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased"...If you deny that, then you dont hold Him in high regard for the right reasons at all.

      ashraaf.fakier - 2012-09-21 18:23

      @nom,deplume having a different believe about Jesus (Nabi Esa) is not an insult on the contrary. As mentioned we believe only in Devine revelation (Quran) which informs us. Yes the Quran makes mention of the return of Jesus, but you forgot to mention that he is not coming back as a prophet. As our belief is that Mohammed (PbUH) is the seal of all prophethood. Now yes, if your belief is different and in the Quran we are advised that you will have your belief and we will have our belief and you wont believe what we believe and we wont believe what you believe. You see God (Allah SWT) Knew what you will say what you are saying. Similar the BiBle makes mention that another prophet will come after Jesus but Christians choose to ignore it and we don't regard that as insulting.

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:16

      Only a fool will learn Islam from those fighting a war on every Muslim nation. In Islam, the sin of killing one innocent person is the same as killing all of mankind. The Messenger of God will testify against a muslim who kills an innocent non-muslim on the day of Judgement. It appears that the hatred you have for Islam is now open. You have made your choice. Watch the divine book on youtube Peace.

      shireen.abbas - 2012-12-14 00:07

      @tabib.asnan.3? wat the hell is wrong wit u copy n paste the whole darn debatE thro ! YARN!!!! LmfAO !

  • heiku.staude - 2012-09-21 12:10

    Blasphemy, like prostitution, is a victimless crime.

  • arthur.vass.1 - 2012-09-21 13:03

    I saw a picture of a Muslim standing on the National flag of France and the USA. In her hand she held a a piece of paper saying : " Freedom of speech is not freedom of insult." The irony of the whole thing is that she insults the People of France and the USA. by standing on their flags, over something an individual did in that country. Why are they insulting nations by burning their flags and burning images of their Presidents, while they get very upset if someone just drew a picture of their great prophet? Should Mr. Obama not be insulted or the American people not be insulted if they do these things? This is utter hypocrisy.

      jaco.barkhuizen - 2012-09-21 17:46

      As is the way of all religions really.

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:17

      Only a fool will learn Islam from those fighting a war on every Muslim nation. In Islam, the sin of killing one innocent person is the same as killing all of mankind. The Messenger of God will testify against a muslim who kills an innocent non-muslim on the day of Judgement. It appears that the hatred you have for Islam is now open. You have made your choice. Watch the divine book on youtube Peace.

  • cliff.tafirenyika2 - 2012-09-21 13:11

    America must be destroyed

      bheki.moyo.39 - 2012-09-21 17:46

      So that you will gain the whole world and practice your religion freely,what a weird comment. Revise your thinking.

      riaan.mostert.58 - 2012-09-25 23:03

      You should have been aborted.

  • jojo.balela.1 - 2012-09-21 13:13

    Did anyone see the reaction of the muslims in Burma to this whole saga? ... LOL

  • jojo.balela.1 - 2012-09-21 14:12

    OMG I just saw a news report that an earthquake ripped right through a cinema that was due to show the movie Innocence of Muslims - with pics of the aftermath!! Can anyone verify if this is true?

  • imraan.khan.71066 - 2012-09-21 15:57

    Muslims should follow the way and the example of our beloved Rasoolullah ( Prophet of ALLAH , Mohammed ) . The name of Muhammed ( Peace be upon him ) will live long and remain forever , whereas these people who mock him will soon be gone and forgotten. Many people over the past centuries have tried to tarnish the beautiful Character of Prophet Muhammed , but his name is now taken more than ever before and his example has been and will always be relevant for all times for all men , women and children ...ALL praise be to ALLAH ( GOD ) and peace be upon all the Prophets from Adam , Noah , Abraham Moses , Jesus and Mohammed

      ppisciotta - 2012-09-27 14:31

      Those in the world who wish to be free from the threats of Islam should have the right to do so. Women should not be subjugated by self-righteous men who know nothing of being human much less deserving of respect.

  • yusufchinyengetere - 2012-09-21 17:15

    the problem is that these days we got muslims by name not by their actions. Most people regard themselves muslims yet their character nd action dont depict that. Muhammed during his time was insulted, assalted by his uncles, relatives, and people he knew but he tried to be tolerant, but us muslims these days are attacked by people we dont even know, so why must we retaliate in a bad way and in doing so we kill innocent people which is unacceptable and makes us sinners instead. It's forbidden in islam to kill women, children, old age and those defenseless who havn't harmed you at all.

  • enlightened.bowman - 2012-09-21 18:45

    I do not believe the majority of muslims are tolerant. The Quran advises them not to be. That simple. It is more a matter of two groups. Those that come out of the closet, so to speak and those that for reasons of business, work or character, choose to remain silent. May we never see these people let lose. We will all be starring in beheading videos

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-21 18:54

      Islam is a false religion. The Koran reads like continuous instructions for war and cruel punishment for any transgressions If you read the New Testament, there is hardly any violence.

      jaco.barkhuizen - 2012-09-21 19:46

      ...and the bible is just full of bunnies, candy floss and long walks on the beach?

      ashraaf.fakier - 2012-09-22 10:25

      @gerhard.kress.3 I have no idea which Quran you are reading, but it is clear that your bias towards islam is making you blind to the truth. The new testament is full of stuff and I will not repeat it here. Please read Genesis in the bible and then Exodus 6:19-20 and Kings 13:1-2, Kings 13:8-12, Kings 13:14 once you have read it come back to me and then critisize the Quran. You see The Quran is gods words and there are no mistakes in it.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-22 12:18

      You obviously do not know what the New Testament is.

      Bob.Cee123 - 2012-09-23 14:06

      @ gerhard.kress.3 - that link is a revealing look into the Islamic psyche. However, lets make no mistake, the relative non-violence in the NT does not somehow validate the NT, which still has glaring discrepancies.

      tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:18

      Only a fool will learn Islam from those fighting a war on every Muslim nation. In Islam, the sin of killing one innocent person is the same as killing all of mankind. The Messenger of God will testify against a muslim who kills an innocent non-muslim on the day of Judgement. It appears that the hatred you have for Islam is now open. You have made your choice. Watch the divine book on youtube Peace.

  • popeye.sailor.1884 - 2012-09-22 00:15

    The whole thing boils down to one thing: RESPECT or rather the lack thereof. As long as the western world and the US in particular keep on screwing with the Muslims, they should face the consequences. I’m not Muslim but I lived in Arab countries for a couple of years. I saw with my own eyes how Yanks treated these people in their own country. Google US military bases in the world and see that they are involved in more than 150 countries. Why ? The US population is about 5% of the world population. They should stop thinking that they can save the world. Try stay at home and mind your own business!

      Madibeng Kalane - 2013-04-30 22:33

      I am muslim brother popeye my allah reward u

  • tabib.asnan.3 - 2012-09-24 12:10

    I am a muslim. I love the messenger of God more than my mother and father. Insult my mother and I will be upset. I don't see the joke. I will never harm an innocent person, but you have all forgotten the victim here. I wish nobdy is ever insulted in this way. Watch the divine book on youtube. Peace to all.

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