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Muammar Gaddafi’s brutal rule exposed

2011-07-19 11:27

 Cape Town - A human rights team has revealed a huge archive of footage and images detailing Muammar Gaddafi’s brutal reign over Libya, among them the hanging of Sadiq Hamed Shwehdi who was accused of plotting to assassinate the leader of the revolution in 1984, the Guardian has reported.

According to the report, the gruesome act of execution was witnessed by thousands of children who were bussed into Benghazi’s basketball stadium.

"Thousands of schoolchildren and students were bussed into Benghazi's basketball stadium, where they saw a frightened young man with curly hair and beard, kneeling with his hands bound behind his back, pleading for his life before people's prosecutors”, the report said.

In the recently discovered film, the reports said, Shwehdi is seen alone in the centre of the stadium, sobbing as he confesses to his crime of joining the "stray dogs" before being sentenced to death.

The Guardian said Gaddafi had already ruled Libya for 15 years in 1984 “and he had a fearsome reputation for brutality towards his enemies. But the grim scene that unfolded in the eastern city of Benghazi was a spectacular first even for him".

The report comes at a time when Gaddafi has vowed he will never leave the land of his ancestors, following fresh international calls for him to go, and as rebels pressed their campaign to overthrow him.

Comments
  • Parko - 2011-07-19 11:37

    Where are the Gaddafi defenders now ?

      Lekker Jan - 2011-07-19 11:42

      "meelo" is here.

      Ryan Tunney - 2011-07-19 12:00

      Meelo, him she the stupid one is still around. Eish, he needs a brain quickly.

      MelaninDisad - 2011-07-19 12:32

      Check out www.obamaslibya.com for the other side of the coin.

      brian - 2011-07-19 16:27

      right here..Notice how the enemies of Libya have had to dig back to the 1980s! The shrill demonisation is to counter the images of millions of libyans supporting gadaffi and the libyans are facing child killing NATO allying with suicide bombing jihadhis!

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 19:00

      Rather disingenuous Ryan's attitude toward people with a different opinion. Those who live in glass houses...

      Archie - 2011-07-20 04:30

      right here dipstick, everything you are told is a lie, and for the record big deal, that is the same law as america for assasiantion attaepts on the president, last 4 US presidents mudered 600,000 civilians over 3 countries who attacked no one, lets get real people, texas executes people for normal capital crimes, so spare us horse dung about a legal exectution being anything other than what it was, gee let me see how did they kill Saddam??? oh thats right they hung him and near ripped off his head because it was poorly done, tell someone who cares you murderimng NATO scum. now atch the truth, not propaganda but a film made by NATO brittan before all this started, the film they want no westerners to see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdeLv5lFPuw

      slg - 2011-07-20 06:45

      Archie, are you drunk? Where did you find, I mean make up, those stats?

      BritishLeban - 2011-07-20 06:47

      Gaddafi defenders in peace are everywhere you fools, open your eyes to the millions of Libyans marching freely for brother Muammar Gaddafi. Where are you looking? AlJazeera ? wrong choice mate, wake up and smell the Nescafe drinkers.. @britishlebanese

      slg - 2011-07-20 06:49

      britishleban, I hope you'll still be here a few months from now when the oppressive and totalitarian tribal power has been wrested from Gadhafi and sons. Not long now. Soon come.

      marco - 2011-07-20 07:05

      Careful people slg and co will defend any article by the media on Gaddafi's socalled "brutality" and then go as far as to justify NATO's bombing,lambast Zuma and the AU for their role or something similar.Funny they have to dig s**t up from 1984 to justify an illegal invasions of the present in Libya,how pathetic can the West really get.Gaddafi had been welcomed by the West and Tony Blair in particular went and had ****ing tea with him in the desert in 2007 and praised Gaddafi for "positive" talks all because they they felt he had made enough changes in his life that merits such a welcoming from them(NATO).The same NATO that's now bombing the socalled "paranoid" Tyrant.The West,spurred on by their media,are twofaced bastards when their interest are not met by any leader and/or his/her country.

      slg - 2011-07-20 07:21

      Ah Maroc the genius is back. Are you aware that the Arab League want Gadhafi and sons gone too? What say you of that? Have you redrawn the world map such that the Middle East is part of the so-called West?

      Honest Dude - 2011-07-20 08:03

      People love to blame America for everything. If it wasn't for America this world would have been a cesspool of dictators. You should thank them for getting rid of them.

      Honest Dude - 2011-07-20 08:14

      PS. Gadaffi could have avoided all this by calling for democratic elections, but no, he believed he is entitled to rule everyone in a that country and those that oppose him must die.

      Azizi - 2011-07-20 09:31

      sig Archie has quoted facts. You stereotypes always conveniently approach a story from one side, so as to cover your blemishes in life.

      brian - 2011-07-20 09:43

      sig..gadafi has no power..he left office in 1977, andn what authority he exerts is a moral authority.EG: On February 16, 2009, Gaddafi took a step further and called on Libyans to back his proposal to dismantle the government and to distribute the oil wealth directly to the 5 million inhabitants of the co However, his plan to deliver oil revenues directly to the Libyan people met opposition by senior officials who could lose their jobs due to a parallel plan by Gaddafi to rid the state of corruption.

      Bernard - 2011-07-20 10:38

      http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/publisher,IRBC,,LBY,45f147662,0.html The CIA Man Hifter ist responsible for this criminal act. And guess what: This is the so called Libyen "revolution". CIA man Hifter. Paid by CIA for many years now, finally has found his destination. CIA bringing human rights - the joke of the century. CIA man Hifter calling onto CIA to bomb Libya since 5 months, day and night. There is talk about freedom (for people). The only freedom - once CIA has finished Libya - will be freedom for western corporations to exploit Libya to the vastest extent. Nothing will be left for Libyans, except for men like CIA man Hifter. One more "freedom" party - directed and done by CIA, "change" Obama and some imbecile European "leaders". Using the largest Terrorist Organisation of the world - NATO. These crimes must stop, terrorist organsation must cease their actions and be dismantled.

      African'shtr - 2011-07-20 14:22

      go to hell Gaddafi is innocent

      brian - 2011-07-20 14:52

      for a 'brutal ruler', Gadaffi is awfully popular! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7P9RjGBZ50&feature=share

      DeonL - 2011-07-20 15:32

      Some time ago it was said that + 70% of info on the web was complete lies or distorted at least. It seems to be still the same.

  • trueblu&real - 2011-07-19 11:51

    Before the uprising i read an article on news24 in which Gaddafi was referred to as the "grandfather of Africa". People actually were behind his move to lead the AU. He wanted a United States of Africa. I can't believe the lack of discernment sometimes. Its like people are blind.

      Patrick - 2011-07-19 12:17

      Among other African leaders who have glued themselves in the presidential role, President Gaddafi, if not the only one in our time, has had done significant good deeds both for his nation and Africa. I strongly believe, us Africans, are indebted to help him in bringing peace in his nation ASAP before the West use force like the way they did with Iraq when ousting Saddam Hussein. Its high time Africa takes charge in handling matters such as this with African Union instead of leaving it to the West. African Union step up and help your member!

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-07-19 12:20

      They believe what they want to believe, basically.

      AJ - 2011-07-20 04:46

      @Patrick - why precisely does the AU have to support Gadaffi to support Libya. Why not support the rebels then, that is still supporting Libya then? All you have done is pick a side. Oh and 'bringing peace to a nation' by killing everyone you think in your mind is 'not peaceful or against you' are highly ironic actions and never appropriate for a 'leader' whom you say I should feel indebted to. If he was strung up tomorrow and executed it it would still be decades too late.

      simon - 2011-07-20 08:49

      Unfortunately, trublu, the so-called áfrican union' has neither the capacity nor the competence to do anything meaningful anywhere in africa. They are even unable to assist with humanitarian action in east africa, and it is again left to the "West"to save their misrable lives.

      Bernard - 2011-07-20 14:35

      Simon uuh the story of the good, good west. In Somalia the good, good west is being very useful to save "miserable" as you dare to say, lives. Especially in dropping bombs at this country, now and then klling quite some. And how did it happen that Somalia got a "failed" state in the first place? Too much help by the "peace delivering" CIA?

      daaivark - 2011-07-21 07:25

      Doesn't this apply to us all, Martin?

  • dingane - 2011-07-19 12:02

    I believe that the US through its vile tricks outfit the CIA instigated the revolt in Libya. If this succeeds a puppet government will rule Libya while the US pulls the strings. Remember how Iraq was invaded and Hussein murdered on totally false "information": supposedly supplied by the CIA while the nuclear investigators could find no trace of arms of mass destruction. Remember the Locherbie affair; the CIA warned Pik Botha to cancel his and his group's booking on that flight to New York. Read the explanation for that cancellation as given by the US and Pik Botha and relate the times involved. And remember that the man who was found guilty of that disaster still maintains he is innocent. Relate this to the fact that the US has been unable to obtain a single conviction of any Guantanamo detainees in a civil court. The US is the most prolific and incompetent liar.

      MelaninDisad - 2011-07-19 12:31

      Check out www.obamaslibya.com for the other side of the coin.

      schmerz - 2011-07-19 12:35

      Every story has two sides

      Wes - 2011-07-19 12:46

      Stupid comments. So the CIA also instigated the Egypt, Tunisia, Syrian, Bahrain and the Yemen uprisings. Unlike you, these people have realised that it is not America that is the cause of their hardship. It is the selfish and murderous dictators who use the country for their own needs and care nothing for the people. There is only one side of the coin.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:36

      @Wes: It is now known that the so-called "Arab Spring" is a CIA fabrication. See here: http://libyanrevolution.wordpress.com/new-imperialism/ @Dingane: Yes, the west is at it again. Demonize a legitimate leader to gain public opinion in support of their war of aggression on an under-armed country.

      slg - 2011-07-19 23:50

      Geez, new ignorant delusional people coming out of the woodwork. Poshbirdgabi (whatever that means), dingane (who forgets the oppression of Apartheid and will have Libyans suffer the same fate under Gadhafi), brian (who can't tell forces of good from evil), patrick (who loves the tyrant Gadhafi and would give him more money and power so he can kill and detain more Libyans to feed his Ego).

      Lionel - 2011-07-20 04:12

      I smell a troll.

      Wes - 2011-07-20 11:11

      Quoting blogs where idiots are more organised to make a blog does not prove your point.

      trueblu&real - 2011-07-20 11:31

      Conspiracy theories do no good. Gadaffi had a well-known conflict with Al-Quaeda. It is more likely that the Muslim Brotherhood are behind the uprisings. They have managed to manipulate "the West" into fighting the war for them. This seems more likely to me. I personally think the world owes America a great debt of gratitude. Historically it has been one of the only nations with sufficient economic strength to fight against some of the greatest evils the world has seen. America is not perfect but show me any nation that is.

      Bernard - 2011-07-20 14:28

      True blue - have a look at the evidence: Do yourself a favour and get some information apart from spy/ brainwash media. That CIA revolution on Libya, another country being destroyed, bombed and burned to ashes. NOW see the details for "evidence" as in the case 1984. http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/publisher,IRBC,,LBY,45f147662,0.html The CIA Man Hifter ist responsible for this criminal act in 1984. And guess what: This is the so called Libyan "revolution" CIA man Hifter. Paid by CIA for many years now, finally has found his destination. CIA bringing human rights - the joke of the century. CIA man Hifter calling onto CIA to bomb Libya since 5 months, day and night. There is talk about freedom (for people). The only freedom - once CIA has finished Libya - will be freedom for western corporations to exploit Libya to the vastest extent. Nothing will be left for Libyans, except for men like CIA man Hifter. One more "freedom" party - directed and done by CIA, "change" Obama and some imbecile European "leaders". Using the largest Terrorist Organisation of the world - NATO. These crimes must stop, terrorist organsations must cease their actions and be dismantled. The above paper by Unhcr - this paper alone tells quite a different story to all the we're told, by lamewash media.

      Mebber - 2011-07-21 13:03

      Excellent comments !Right on the mark !

  • Berrybrook - 2011-07-19 12:06

    none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

  • Muenda - 2011-07-19 12:14

    The same man was rubbing shoulders with the US hardly a decade ago. This conflict has nothing to do with how people have been treated before. It is just a humanitarian war that was planned longtime ago. The thing is people are been killed in E. Guinea, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Syria and the Guntanamo bay. Logically, this war only makes sense to many people cos they are blinded by propagandist who make sure what information u and I should or shouldnt read. This is about locating strategic resources to safeguard one country's interests as China is exceedingly accelarating its power base in Africa.

      Wes - 2011-07-19 12:47

      The US had sanctions against Libya and bombed them a few times as well. Please get your facts straight.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:39

      @Muenda: Your facts are accurate. The UN reported in Jan 2011 that Libya had a great human rights record and was preparing to present Qadhafi and Libya with an award for their human rights record. All the while elite western interests were plotting this war.

      slg - 2011-07-19 23:53

      What rubbish. Talk about distorting reality and facts.

  • Joe Soap - 2011-07-19 12:15

    A man confesses to treason and is "brutally" hanged. Abraham Lincoln would be proud - and that is no sarcasm. Meanwhile american soldiers massacre men, women and children in various eastern countries and it's all honky-dorey. The hypocrisy is nauseating

      horsehair - 2011-07-19 12:28

      @ Joe Soap - And you're typing this all on their internet. Douche

      MelaninDisad - 2011-07-19 12:30

      Check out www.obamaslibya.com for the other side of the coin.

      tkotze - 2011-07-19 13:29

      Melanin, unfortunately the videos is not verified, and therefore can't say this is just a propoganda piece. But I am once again shocked at humanity, and what people do - doesn't matter if this happened in Somalia, Libya or Zimbabwe. It is totally unacceptable and I will regret watching the videos into the future. But I guess this is the type of society that is bread within cruelty. This is the one thing I like about the Western society... these things does not happen as they do in Africa.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:41

      @Joe: You are absolutely correct. The hypocrisy is awful. But then again, we live in Orwellian times: "War is peace".

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:42

      @tkotze: These things do happen in western societies.

      brian - 2011-07-19 17:01

      tkotze...these things happen in the middle east and africa BY western forces....witness the sacking of falluja, baghdad, pakisans tribak territories...all by western forces

      slg - 2011-07-19 23:54

      In which countries exactly are American soldiers "massacring" men, women and children?

      brian - 2011-07-20 09:55

      sig..try Iraq, afghanistan(esp wedding parties!) pakistan , formerly Vietnam cambodia, etc...and now Libya

      Luapolku - 2011-07-20 14:56

      @slg, by the millions in Iraq and afghanistan, are you blind or insane. When Madelyn Albright was asked if it is worth it that 500 000 children died as a result of UN led sactions in Iraq, she said yes it was worth it, let alone the million people killed in the current Iraq war

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:03

      Brian, Luopaku, that's rubbish.

  • meelo - 2011-07-19 12:16

    Keep believing in everything you read. They tricked the world that Osama and some cave man orchestrated 911 and you fell for it. So why you falling for it again, you dont even know these people telling the stories yet you believe them. Thats smart Lekker Jan dis lekker Meelo vir jou lol

      Dal68 - 2011-07-19 12:22

      In the land of the blind, you must be the leader....

      Dirge - 2011-07-19 12:43

      And following on that brilliant bit of logic we dont know you either. Guess we all just sit around not believing anything, but you have a head start on that dont you. hehe

      Eligos - 2011-07-19 12:47

      Meelo - I am with you on this. By retaining Libya's oil wealth for the benefit of all its people, Gadaffi had created a socialist paradise. There is no unemployment, Libya has the highest GDP in Africa, less than 5% of the population is classified as poor and it has fewer people living below the poverty datum line than for example in Holland. Life expectancy is 75 years and is the highest in Africa and I0% above the world average. Most Libyan families possess a house and a car. There is free health care and education and not surprisingly Libya has a literacy rate of 82%. Last year Gadaffi distributed $500 to each man, woman and child (population 6.5 million). Libya has a tolerable human rights record and stands at 61 on the International Incarceration Index, comparable with countries in central Europe (the lower the rating, the lower the standing - the USA occupies the no.1 spot!). There is hardly any crime and only rebels and traitors are dealt with harshly. Riba (usury) is not permitted. The Central bank of Libya is a wholly-owned by the Libyan Government and is run as a state bank, issuing all government loans free of interest. This is in contrast to the exploitative fractional reserve banking system of the West. The no-fly zone and the bombing of Libya have nothing to do with the protection of civilians. It is an act of war - a blatant and crude attempt by the oil corporations and international bankers to steal the wealth of Libya.

      slg - 2011-07-19 23:57

      Geez, another delusional person who doesn't see reality the way it is. 911 didn't happen. Osama Bin Laden did not plan and execute it. The CIA is behind it all. The US is the great evil force in the world. What rubbish. Garbage of the highest order. We're all free to believe what we want to believe.

      slg - 2011-07-19 23:59

      Eligos, what rubbish. The same lies were told to us about the Soviet Union and Cuba. Until the Iron Curtain came down and exposed the retarded position these places had become. They're fifty years behind the freer world, trying to catch up. Wake up!

      Des12 - 2011-07-20 01:59

      You must be kidding right!!! U don't believe that Osama existed and that he was responsible for 9/11?.

      AJ - 2011-07-20 07:02

      @Eligos - how much did Gadaffi distribute to himself and his family? Also 500 bucks, or 500 million rather, maybe 5 billion? And that is acceptable to you? It's indefensible, end of story,

      brian - 2011-07-20 09:58

      trust Sig to think the reality is the way he wants it to be:'Geez, another delusional person who doesn't see reality the way it is' The delusional is complaining about the sane.

      Luapolku - 2011-07-20 15:05

      The majority of people now do believe 911 was an inside job, truth in the end will prevail despite slg's lame efforts.

      Illuminated - 2011-07-20 15:42

      Bin Laden was trained by the CIA, that you cant dispute...

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:04

      Luopolku, you're talking rubbish. It's easy to make things up, but you;re making a fool of yourself.

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:06

      Illuminated, so? That was when the Soviet Union was a real threat to humankind. He then made the choice to declare war on the US and freer world, to try and terrorize the world into going backwards into biblical existence based on his narrow, extremely chauvinistic and oppressive way of life.

  • ProfAndy - 2011-07-19 12:18

    There is no doubt that Gaddafi was a brutal dictator... The only thing that irks me is that it is only now, in a desire to gain control of his oilfields, that the West decides to do anything about it. And, quite frankly, I can think of nothing more terrifying than a CIA drone rocking up outside my window pointing it's missiles at my home. Gaddafi is bad news but the hypocrisy of the West (mainly the US) realy makes me want to spew...

      slg - 2011-07-20 07:17

      Not much of a professor, I'm afraid. I recommend studying the oil industry and how it works before drawing simple, superficial conclusions that are flat-out wrong. You'll find the so-called West will never be in control of Libya's oil, and Libya only produces 2% of the world's oil.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:01

      what evidence have you Gadaffis a brutal dictator? Nothing! millions on Libyans show their support for gadaffi...millions of egyptians did NOT show their support for Mubarak...Its that simple,but i guess people are too ready to believe the dictatorial liars in US and EU govts who have their agendas to get rid of gadaffi

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:13

      Then why did Gadhafi not allow them to vote for their leaders?

  • merc - 2011-07-19 12:24

    Who is going to prosecute the US and the UK?? they are mass common killers.

      slg - 2011-07-20 03:45

      It's easy to string words together, even if they have no real basis in fact. They just take up a bit of space and burn up into nothing. A waste of time and energy.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:03

      LOL Trust sockpuppet sig to not see massmurder when it happens...like in Iraq/afghanistan?US has started two wars that have killed 2 million people this last decade

      Luapolku - 2011-07-20 15:10

      God will prosecute them, they are not only killers but torturer's and rapists as well, remember the incident where 4 us soldiers where feeling bored and they said lets go kill some iraqi's they killed a family in front of a 14 year old girl then raped her then killed her and went and celebrated by having chicken, check it out if you dont believe it was in the mainstream media.

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:09

      Brian, you're talking rubbish. The US has not killed 2 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Do you really think people are that stupid that they cannot read the facts in this information age?

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:10

      Luopolku, the US itself prosecutes soldiers that act outside official policy.

  • zetheroo - 2011-07-19 12:31

    Meelo, you are absolutely correct! Those here who mock you may just one day find themselves being rounded up and exterminated by the neocon scum who are having their way with the so-called "freedom fighters" in Libya today!

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:02

      And you're using the internet, an American invention, to freely express your views. Were you in Libya and disagreed with the Gadhafi regime, you'd be dead or in prison. Wake up!

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:08

      well millions of gadafi supporting Libyans are not in prison, and those dead are dead because of the insurgents and NATO..here are some of his many supporters: http://lizziesliberation.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/libyan-women-take-to-the-streets-to-rubbish-false-rape-claims-against-the-government/

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:16

      www.lizziesliberation.com? Are you serious? That's your reliable source of information? Gadhafi could have avoided this a long time ago by allowing Libyans the basic human right to elect their leaders. Libya is one of the few countries on Earth in which its people are denied this right by who ... Gadhafi and sons.

  • letsee - 2011-07-19 12:31

    Though I’m not a Gaddafi’s fan and believe that he is no longer a legitimate leader and that negotiations with him will not lead to any conclusions unless he remains in power, I also don’t believe that the events of 1984 were not known since 1984. It seems that some powers hide all the dirty to be used when convenient only.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:44

      What criteria did you use to decide that Qadhafi is not the legitimate leader? What position does he currently hold?

      Yerlan Jumabayev - 2011-07-19 18:43

      actually, Caddafi has a support of all Libyan people, watch videos with rallies on youtube while terrorists in Benghazi are supported only with bombs and rockets of France, UK and USA killing thousands of civilians in Tripoli

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:03

      Gadhafi is a dictator who has never been elected. This makes him illegitimate. Period. It's not rocket science.

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:05

      Yerian, you're going down with your leader. You're believing lies and trying to spread them. The world is moving towards greater human rights and freedom, not backwards into more tyranny and oppression. We in South Africa have gone through our changes. Libyans are going through theirs. You cannot and will not stop this.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:10

      whereas Bush, Obomber, Sarcozy etc are elected dictators(altho Bush probably wasnt elected) and these have dwindling support at home!

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 05:36

      @slg: You said: "Gadhafi is a dictator who has never been elected. This makes him illegitimate. Period. It's not rocket science." You appear ignorant of the extreme shortcomings of electoral systems. You failed to answer my questions. You simply restated your unsubstantiated opinion based on ... your unsubstantiated opinion.

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:11

      poshbird, so that's your justification to deny people the basic human right to vote for their leaders? It's not going to fly in this modern age. Maybe in the Dark Ages, but not today.

  • Terrence - 2011-07-19 12:36

    Unfortunate there is no right or wrong but 2 wrongs do not a right make. Lets rewind - recently USA carried out and "execution" without a trial and they are supposed to be religiously 2nd Amendment,5th Amendment etc.etc. Are we to be judge, jury and executioner. Who appointed them the judge, jury and executioner of OBL? Why no hue and cry? Assign yourself in his position - especially when your empire is to be torned apart. The west is pretty good at making nations a "pariah".

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:08

      Osama Bin Laden declared war on the US. He chose to be martyred. This was his preferred way to die. He was killed in an act of war. That is why there is no "hue" (whatever that means) and "cry" (whatever that means too).

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 05:38

      This "slg" character is definitely some sort of apartheid/nazi troll. Perhaps he should read more rather than sharing his ignorant opinions in such a priggish manner.

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:19

      Actually I was an anti-Apartheid activist. Libya under Gadhafi is even worse than Apartheid. At least the Apartheid leaders had the heart and good sense to end their oppressive system and allow all South Africans to vote for their leaders, something Gadhafi has chosen not to do.

  • Jou - 2011-07-19 12:39

    Jacob Zuma's mate.

  • Eligos - 2011-07-19 12:42

    When the western dictators decide to demonise someone, they do it well. Gaddafi is simply the next victim. What should the world say about amerikan leaders who allow criminals to be put to death by lethal injection - and it takes an hour for the person to die? Cruel? Inhuman? Human Rights Abuser? Wake up. If this story is the worst they can drag up on Gaddafi, then he is probably a saint.

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:09

      The "western dictators" are elected by the people of their countries. Hence they are not dictators at all. Get an education and grow up.

      Ross - 2011-07-20 09:31

      The Americans must hand out green cards. Eligos, meelo, polio et.al. will be in front of the queue with outstretched waving arms.

      Honest Dude - 2011-07-20 09:55

      Eligos - Maybe you should consult a dictionary on the meaning of "dictator"

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 05:41

      There is widespread awareness in western states that elections are rigged. They are rigged by direct action as we saw with Bush Jr in Florida, as well as by indirect action where most do not vote because they are well aware that once elected politicians fail to honour their campaign promises. Thirty nine percent of Canadians voted for Stephen Harper, our current warmonger.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 05:43

      As I said there is a distinctly racist flavor to the anti-Qadhafi posts here. "Ross'" comments clearly conflate white-supremacist and anti-immigrant ideas in a manner designed to halt calm and useful dialogue.

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:12

      poshbird, your thought-process is extremely superficial and limited.

  • Marcell - 2011-07-19 12:44

    Who was responsible for the Locherbie bombing? I think it is time he meet his ancestors.

      rocky - 2011-07-19 13:03

      Who killed his daughter - it never stop. The blame goes on. Who is going to execute the Defence Ministers of UK and France for "executing" hundeds of innocents civilians

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:48

      Wow, cop on North Americans. EU and UK courts declared that Libya was wrongfully accused and convicted of Lockerbie. Star witness (Maltese shopkeeper) wrongfully paid off by cops and US politicians to say "a Libyan did it!". All of this came out in court. Shopkeeper got about $4 million. This is common news in UK and Europe. Interestingly this bit of info never made it to North America.

      Al Fatah - 2011-07-19 19:05

      Marcell don't be so naive! its like believing that Bin Laden orchestrated the 9/11 Qaddafi had nothing to do with Lockerbie & actually America was paying us back as compensation for all the sanctions they did to us! America was caught red-handed tampering with evidence & paying off witnesses with the amount of 4million dollars each! so once u get ur facts right pls be more polite on ur criticism as u r way out of base!

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:10

      Rocky, what are you talking about? There is no connection between what you are saying and Gadhafi's oppressive rule of Libya which the new generation are changing.

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:11

      poshbird, more rubbish.

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:11

      Al Fatah, you're also going down with your leader. You're blind.

      Des12 - 2011-07-20 02:04

      Al fatah, u still don't believe that Osama did it do you? U gotta stop believing those madrassas in SA man and stop smoking Hash too. I mean even the jihadi websites admit that he did it, heck even ur hero mullah omar admitted it man - come on dude.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 05:49

      Even ex-CIA agents admit to faking videos of Bin Laden (http://ht.ly/17uLTS). It's amusing to see the commitment the white-supremacists/nazis/racists have to maintaining anti-Qadhafi propaganda.

      Tito - 2011-07-21 16:08

      At first I tried to figure out sigs arguments and hopefully become a bit more enlightened. As the opinios progressed I realised that I might be trying to get enlightened on world politics by somebody that has not so long ago just passed through his teenage years. A clear indicator for me he does not know what "hue and cry" mean. My chuckle for the day.

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:23

      Actually Tito, I'm quite a bit older than that, and I've lived a lot. However, your comment makes me wonder if you're of the older generation in Libya who have grown used to Gadhafi's oppressive ways, even accepted it. The new generation is not willing to accept it. They are speaking. They have dreams of eternal youth, of hope, of a new, free Libya. As one of the few places on Earth where its citizens cannot vote, it is highly unlikely Libya will remain in its oppressive, dictatorial ways under Gadhafi. I wish the transition was less painful and tragic, but then that's the nature of Mr Gadhafi's choices. He set the agenda as the (unelected) leader of the country, in charge of its considerable resources and military.

  • Robert Cerff - 2011-07-19 12:52

    Um... can't help but ask if this is the best they have? I'm no Gaddafi fan but we've got people in parliament who've committed worse crimes - Stompie comes to mind! Lets not mention how Hussain was simply hung. All of that said, in the interest of the people Gaddafi has to go.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:51

      International law says no one has the right to impose their will on a sovereign nation. Libya is a sovereign nation and Qadhafi's people support him. http://libyanrevolution.wordpress.com/the-marches/ Western powers are in severe violation of international law to the point that they have permanently undermined all western institutions and the international institutions they control.

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:12

      Poshbird, Libya is not sovereign. It has been hijacked by Gadhafi and family. The new generation have decided. And the world is acting. There is nothing you can do about it.

      Quoriana - 2011-07-20 09:19

      @slg 'Libya is not sovereign' perfectly fits in today's 'war is peace' theory. Meanwhile take a quick look at this map: http://goo.gl/Oqucg it represents Libya not 'the Gaddafi family', see Libya is Green in more than one way.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 05:55

      The "there's nothing you can do about it" comment from the "slg" troll is just like the propaganda that NATO is dropping on Libyans from airplanes which says "resistance is useless". Have a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ8AOX0xi1g&feature I say to the troll the same thing the Libyans kids said to NATO: "Allah, Muammar, Libya wa Bass!"

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 05:58

      @slg: You're right the new generation has decided. Here is what they say: "Allah, Muammar, Libya wa Bass!" Have a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edi5hvAITmY&feature=player_embedded AND HERE: http://libyanrevolution.wordpress.com/the-marches/

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:01

      The "slg" troll does not know what 'sovereign' means and he doesn't have any facts which is why he never has anything to say other than: "this is what I think" and "that's the way it is". The aggression and ignorance is very "bully". Very North Atlantic Terrorism Organization.

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:13

      Actually, posh bird, that's exactly what you've been doing.

  • rocky - 2011-07-19 12:53

    Is there any justification of premediated bombing whether by drones and/or warplanes. As long as it falls within West it is acceptable. Forward - Pakistan is "murdering" their own fellow men becase they fell int the axis of NATO. They should carryn their vengence into the West. The number of innocents killed is beyond compresion but the West gets away because they are the West. Rewind remember Vietnam - "tunnels rats" who made the might the owners of B52 and their mighty carriers scrambled out of the South? Why were the not prosecuted for killing innocents - now a repetition in Pakistan and Afghan.

      Gandalf - 2011-07-19 13:07

      Rocky, could you repeat this babble in some form of understandable English?

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:53

      @Rocky: Only those not in touch with international politics and who buy into the propaganda spewed by their media would find your comments incomprehensible.

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:13

      What rubbish. You're delusional.

      Honest Dude - 2011-07-20 09:56

      Don't worry. India will sort Pakistan out soon enough.

      Luapolku - 2011-07-20 15:14

      slg you are delusional, the usa is responsible for the killing of more innocents then any other nation.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:04

      "slg" is a troll. No point responding to their ignorance and aggression.

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:14

      Luopolku, exactly where and how many "innocents" has the US killed? Have in mind it's easy for readers to verify what you say.

  • zetheroo - 2011-07-19 12:57

    So a man goes to the USA and joins this group who are, for all intents and purposes, a terrorist group planning the overthrow of a government. This man returns to Libya and is sentenced to death by hanging - and THAT somehow concludes to the headline "Muammar Gaddafi’s brutal rule exposed"? WHAT? Are you f***ing kidding me? What of the blood of hundreds of thousands of civilians slaughtered by the forces of the American governments in the past 2 decades alone? What about the horrific torture of hundreds of people by the military of Americans and their allies? What about the use of Uranium payloads used in the Middle East by the military of the Americans and their allies which render 70% of infants born with deformities in various regions? Should there not be massive headlines about the brutal rule of American presidents and British prime ministers? Should they not also be called "madmen" and labelled as "illegitimate"? COME ON PEOPLE! WAKE THE F**K UP!

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:58

      Millions have been murdered by USA/NATO. The birth defects caused by uranium bombs affect the targeted populations incl. western soldiers helping with the attacks. See this site: http://theiraqwars.wordpress.com/depleted-uranium-babies/

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:15

      poshbird, a handfull of people believe what you're trying to sell. It's rubbish. zetheroo, it's you who are asleep. You're in for a big wake-up. Your time is almost over, with your brother leader or guide, whatever his Ego calls him.

      Des12 - 2011-07-20 02:10

      zether, pls stop believing the madressa propaganda in SA dude. The yanks killed 100s of 1000s - where? Every day the jihadis in afghanistan, pakistan and iraq kill 20-30 innocent civilians - EVERY day. The yanks used uranium payloads- come on man, they would have blown those jihadis to nirvana by now if they had man

      AZB - 2011-07-20 09:39

      What a load of rubish!

      Luapolku - 2011-07-20 15:16

      USA murders a million in Iraq another million in Afghanistan then make a big noise when 2700 of them get killed, sick nation like slg

      daaivark - 2011-07-21 07:31

      Millions have been murdered by belligerent warmongers on all sides of the political spectrum. Anyoine that uses violence in any form to impose any standpoint is a warmonger as far as I am concerned. Humankind has lost its humanity. There is no RIGHTS side in this conflict. Just a bunch of hate filled people, ignorant of one another's views and not caring to become informed. Stop the violent and abusive rhetoric and we just may be able to get somewhere in due course.

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:16

      Luopolku, you're talking absolute rubbish and making a fool of yourself.

  • Risen Ape - 2011-07-19 13:09

    Well, where is the proof? It's not as though the media is regulated and can be trusted. We want to see the videos.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:59

      Even when we see the videos we have to be careful. Check this out: http://endwaronlibya.com/propaganda-against-libya/

      brian - 2011-07-19 17:13

      videos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUENh6sG3zA

  • Strategist - 2011-07-19 13:11

    It's very sad to see how Africans are gullible to believe this nonsense. How on earth can sober minded, proud Africans believe this rubbish from the Ruppert Mudoch report? This is just a ploy by the west to paint Gaddafi a bad guy. We will not buy into this primitive tactic. Down with the western plots. Unite Africa, long live Gaddafi

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 17:02

      Hundreds of years of being told that the "west is the best" has exactly the effect seen in the above article. Western people believe and so do Africans. It is indeed very sad.

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:17

      Go live in Libya then, or Syria under Asad. Have fun! Leave your computer behind because you're not allowed to express yourself freely there.

      slg - 2011-07-20 06:40

      The Arab League want Gadhafi and sons gone too. What say you of this? Another Western plot? You sound like the Apartheid Government with its "Rooi Gevaar" tactics.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:17

      where i wouldnt live is US or UK...under their present regimes

      Illuminated - 2011-07-20 16:06

      i wonder who slg is working for, with all your comments here trying to refute the good Gadaffi has done.. either you are stupid or have alterior motives... Libya has zero debt, they offer free education, free healthcare, free housing, free land to farm, interest free loans, cheap fuel, cars are cost price. the list goes on and all are fact and can be proven whereas your "you are all delusional" comments have zero substance... something tells me you have a hidden agenda as stupid people are not that persistant...

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:10

      After reading the first few bits of his comments, I said the same thing. "slg" is a troll. The way he communicates is very military: no facts, heighten fear by building on past & current western propaganda, bully-speak ("I said so"; "that's the way it is"). Wouldn't be surprised if he's part of the American government's anti-free speech anti-democracy movement. See here: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/pentagon-seeks-manipulate-social-media-propaganda-purposes

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:19

      Check it, the "slg" troll is pulling a false flag (lol!). See the last sentence: "The Arab League want Gadhafi and sons gone too. What say you of this? Another Western plot? You sound like the Apartheid Government with its "Rooi Gevaar" tactics."

      John Wilderness - 2011-07-21 07:27

      Because the West is corrupt does not make Gaddafi a saint. He is equally as corrupt and tyrannical as the west. "Long live Gaddafi" sounds like the west's song of Long live Reagan and Pinochet.

      daaivark - 2011-07-21 07:36

      Poshbird. You aren't doing too badly on the militant-speak side yourself. Your rhetoric is no less belligerent than those you criticise. Just on the other side of an increasingly barbed fence.

  • Illuminated - 2011-07-19 13:48

    people are so stupid... the policies and ultimately control of the UN is detemined by the majority funding by its members, i.e. whoever contributes the most funds gets the most votes and America funds the UN the most so therefore they have complete control of the UN. providing Billions of dollars in aid is another way it secures votes from other members, they dont do it out of the goodness of their heart... so to assume that the UN is impartial is downright ignorant... everyone here just regurgetates the rubbish they are fed through the media which is definately not impartial, so stop being stupid and actually think for yourself...try and think of a time when the USA wasnt at war??? can anyone tell me...? the people who decide to go to war in government are the same people who are the CEO's of multi billion dollar weapons companies and construction companies... if thr UN cares about human rights it wouldve bombed Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone, the DRC, Nigeria etc etc... Lybia wanted to nationalize their oil, they have the second largest gold reserves per capita in the world, they have no debt, they use their oil revenue to better the lives of their people... please please please stop believing the controlled media and research things independently for yourself...

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 17:03

      Libya also had the wonderful idea that Africa should not be drained of its wealth by the west and the stength to begin putting that into practice. See here: http://theagentofchange.tumblr.com/post/7762384745/an-african-viewpoint-on-libya

      slg - 2011-07-20 03:50

      Regrettably Africa is hardly on the so-called West's radar when it comes to investment. You're completely out of touch with modern reality.

      slg - 2011-07-20 06:41

      Also regrettably it is you who is being stupid. Your analysis is baseless in fact, made up nonsense.

      Honest Dude - 2011-07-20 09:57

      There is a serious lack of understanding here by you how the voting process work at the UN.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:19

      modern reality for sig is where white me dictate to black men, and kick their backsides if they dont hurry up and do as told

      Luapolku - 2011-07-20 15:18

      remember abu Ghraib, that's business as usual for the USA and slg supports it all the way, savages

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:21

      Thanks for your insightful comments. You really add to the discussion and you treat others (and yourself) respectfully.

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:27

      Luapolku, the warders at Abu Ghraib have been prosecuted. They acted entirely beyond their official duties. In a military of over 1.5 million people, this can unfortunately happen. More importantly it's a far cry from the official Libyan military policy of raping women into submission, under Gadhafi and sons. How his daughter and they sister is coping with this policy is hard to imagine.

  • juliusedwa - 2011-07-19 14:10

    I am not suprised to hear that, they are searching everything to make him bad, why he is bad now after 42 years? and what is the different between the killing of Sadiq Hamed and Osama Bin Laden? I am fed up by narrow minded whites and the western.......till when they are blid us? they must go to hell

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 17:05

      Yes, they are searching, finding nothing and coming up with more propaganda. See some of these (CNN is the funniest): http://endwaronlibya.com/propaganda-against-libya/

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:10

      Just shows how sensible and balanced your views are Julius. Really not to be taken too seriously at the moment. They are immature and racist.

      Luapolku - 2011-07-20 15:20

      people are no longer being blinded(except slg) the truth is slowly prevailing.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:24

      And the "slg" troll has made it very clear what his agenda is: commitment to total ignorance and continued domination of non-White people.

      slg - 2011-07-27 07:17

      Geez, poshbird, how on earth did you arrive at that conclusion?

  • meelo - 2011-07-19 14:30

    seems like alot here have issues with Muslim. Speak your mind and stop hiding behind that false name. Or are you scared im linked to Al-Qaeda.

  • Strategist - 2011-07-19 14:52

    Fellow bloggers, don't forget that these are the very same western zionists and imperialists who said they were 100% sure that Iraq had WMD. To date, more that 8 years later, they still haven't found any of these WMDs. So how can the whole world continue to be fooled by these western moroons. Those of you who want to further their knowledge on Libyan invasion, please read from the following sites. Without doubt, you will change your views. Imperial veils will be removed from your eyes and colonial mindset will be broken off and you will have a lucid picture of how the west operates. Please join other young people struggling to free the world from imperial hegemony and destroy zionism. These are just a few sites below: 1. www.presstv.ir 2. http://www.rt.com 3. http://www.mathaba.net I will post more eye openning sites here.

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:23

      LOL! You have to open YOUR eyes first.

      Kunta-Kinte - 2011-07-20 13:22

      Include: Rense Globalresearch to you list.

  • skeelo - 2011-07-19 15:27

    f#%$#k the west i hate them to my core, and as of me if you are trying to kill me and i happen to hear be for hand i will surely try to kill you fist and i will!!! i rest my case

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:24

      It is you who will die first with this kind of reactionary violence.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:25

      More of the "slg" troll's white-supremacist nazism.

  • Al Fatah - 2011-07-19 15:33

    So u think he is brutal,a mass murderer, one of the worst dictators in the world! well all of u are wrong!if we compare Qaddafi with the King of Saudi Arabia the King is worse,If we compare him with Ben Ali,Ben Ali is worse,if we compare him Mobareck,Mobarek is worse,if we compare him with Pinochet,Pinochet was worse,if we want to compare him with Franco,Franco was worse!I cld go on,& on,the man is a dictator no different than them but there is 1 difference,as a Dictator he educated the Libyan people not only the rich,he made Libya independent,Libya does not owe to no one abroad neither banks actually Europe & America owes Libya quite a lot!In the last 10 years he has made progress in the country, we are complaining that he should hv done it earlier, yes, we complained that we could be like Dubai, yes we could! why? because we are not satisfied! but yes we could be better but tell me each & everyone where have u found a dictator to have given to his people? & if he is so much hated as the rebels say! why the whole of Tripoli which is over a million & half population have guns?are they all from the circle of Qaddafi? no,is he paying them?I don't think so!so coming back 2the question if they resent him why don't they turn against him? while he is hated 4the crimes he has done some ppl got hanged & some political prisoners where shot well they where plotting against him.what happens 2a democratic country if they find out that u r plotting against ur gov? i think they'll do same

      slg - 2011-07-20 00:24

      He is going down, and so are you with him.

      Kunta-Kinte - 2011-07-20 09:54

      The biggest evil for the past 60 years has been that dictator of capital called the USA.

      Luapolku - 2011-07-20 15:22

      could not agree more, USA cancer to the world and so is slg

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:26

      The "slg" troll seems to like threatening death. How very North Atlantic Terrorist Organization.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:32

      @ "slg" troll: Yawn.

  • poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 16:04

    PROPAGANDA ALERT! This is another piece of western propaganda to prop up NATO's illegal war of aggression on Libya. The only way they can convince us to support their assassination and genocide is by continuing to demonize Qadhafi. This is textbook stuff from the manuals given to Nicaragua by the CIA when trying to overthrow the Sandinistas. Clearly this "writer", and I use that term very loosely, is yet another bought-out yellow journalist in the service of the elites who run our governments and media. Don't believe the hype.

      slg - 2011-07-20 05:00

      It's not illegal at all. It is sanctioned by the UN, including the Arab League. Even China and Russia want Gadhafi gone now too. Pretty much the whole world, except other dictators and tyrants.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:21

      the arab league never sanctioned it, sig..just the saudi states...9 of 22...

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:22

      the no fly zone is as illegal as NATOs flying in Libya airspace

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:31

      Yet another demonstration of the "slg" troll's ignorance. He knows nothing about international law or the workings of international institutions. Yet, the troll seems content to remain oblivious because it suits their own white-supremacist/nazi agenda. The alignment of the troll's views with the malfunctioning international order actually highlights the deep-seated racism of international institutions and the illegal war of aggression on Libya.

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:30

      The so-called illegal war on Libya is actually a legal war on Gadhafi's military that is killing civilians who want nothing more than the basic human right to vote.

  • Sergey - 2011-07-19 16:17

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ku0rLVdWg&feature=share

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:35

      @Sergey: Your vids are excellent - thanks very much!

  • Sergey - 2011-07-19 16:18

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ku0rLVdWg&feature=share

  • Sergey - 2011-07-19 16:18

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSNyPS0fXpU

  • Sergey - 2011-07-19 16:18

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB86Vfr2Gj8

  • Sergey - 2011-07-19 16:19

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WANhxxIwgM

  • Sergey - 2011-07-19 16:20

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYcacooZtc&NR=1

  • Sergey - 2011-07-19 16:22

    TWitter: @arhiseva Libya, Syria, Palestine, USA, NATO - ONLY THE TRUTH! Read all of my previous tweet! Philanthropy.

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:11

      Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:36

      @ "slg" troll: Yawn.

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:22

    interesting...the latest attempt to justify the war on Libya, with the furthe demonisation of Gadaffi...THis is a little like the files 'found' i iraq to inmplicate Galloway...But notice theres no hiding the villain was assasin meanwhile, those'rebels' have been butchering innocent black africans and black libyans

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:58

      Are the Arab League wrong too? Your own so-called brothers want Gadhafi gone.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:25

      your arab league: here is what happened:'As Asia Times Online has reported, a full Arab League endorsement of a no-fly zone is a myth. Of the 22 full members, only 11 were present at the voting. Six of them were Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) members, the US-supported club of Gulf kingdoms/sheikhdoms, of which Saudi Arabia is the top dog. Syria and Algeria were against it. Saudi Arabia only had to "seduce" three other members to get the vote. ' http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD02Ak01.html so what 'arab league'?

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:26

      You invade Bahrain. We take out Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. This, in short, is the essence of a deal struck between the Barack Obama administration and the House of Saud. Two diplomatic sources at the United Nations independently confirmed that Washington, via Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, gave the go-ahead for Saudi Arabia to invade Bahrain and crush the pro-democracy movement in their neighbor in exchange for a "yes

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:34

      Brian, I positively LOVE to read your comments. SO informative and intelligent.

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:33

      Our South African Apartheid government used to twist and distort facts, as you are doing now about the Arab League participation in UN Resolution 1973. They did this until it became clear they were heading for Armageddon. Unfortunately Gadhafi and sons missed the signs (aka Tunisia and Egypt).

  • Giovanni - 2011-07-19 16:30

    How many people are in jail right now in the US for just even threatening Obama? Every month you hear about someone being picked up by the secret service. By the way , attempted murder of a pres is considered treason and punishable by death. So what's the point of this article?

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:12

      You're posting rubbish

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:39

      That's a very valid question Giovanni and the rest of your contribution to our discussion is informative. However, you won't get any intelligent responses from the "slg" troll.

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:31

    Its called demonisation..Note the language used. why this attack on Gadafi? becaus right now NATO(EUro trash) allied to racist benghazis are massacring hundreds of Libyans. this is bad presss, hence the need to bring in heavy guns. Brutal rule? well 1/7 2011 1.7 million Libyans gathered in Green Square tripoli to give the lie to that demonic caricature.Would they support him if he was brutal?

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:57

      The attack on Gadhafi happened because he attacked civilains who wanted nothing more than the right to elect their leaders. South Africans understand this injustice better than most. Best to take you propaganda to another country's website. It ain't working here.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:29

      No sig...gadaffi never attacked anyone....but your insurgents attackde a army base and butchered the soldiers..remember they include LIFG jihadis. s for electing leaders./.the insurgnets fly the flag of a monarch! LOLOLOL

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:40

      @Brian - Great points!

      Mebber - 2011-07-21 13:06

      You are a voice of sanity in an insane world !

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:34

      So the whole world is wrong except the dictator Gadhafi who hasn't allowed Libyans the right to vote for their leaders.

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:35

    just how brutal is gadaffi? lets take a look: How was Libya doing under the rule of Gadaffi? How bad did the people have it? Were they oppressed as we now commonly accept as fact? Let us look at the facts for a moment. Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food. People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:13

      Same lies as was told about the Soviet Union. In a short while from now the world will see the truth of Gadhafi's rule.

      Stevezim - 2011-07-20 05:50

      Brian, the exact same arguments quoting similar statistics could be made for Nazi Germany in the 1930s, where Hitler produced economic miracles and raised the standard of living across the board. Unless of course you disagreed with him, happened to be Jewish, communist, homosexual, black etc etc etc. Still, it is, as you say, how many people are living above the povertly line, and we absolultely dont mind him slaughtering anyone who attempts to question his methods....we are in pursuit of utopia and Gadaffi is the one to bring it. Just like Adolf was, until those blood thirsty capitalist Americans stopped him as well.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:31

      what hitler economic miracle? did he give free housing to austrians ir germans?

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:42

      @Steve: No the same argument can not be made for Nazi Germany. Here is why: http://libyanrevolution.wordpress.com/the-marches/

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:44

      @Brian: The legitimacy of this video is highly suspect as the CIA is known to manufacture videos against other governments in order to justify massacring other people. See here: http://ht.ly/17uLTS

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:36

      The CIA is largely a force for good, not perfect by any means, but a force for good.

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:42

    so how bad is Gadaffi? lets take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v?=Cw8cHwyq7LI&feature=share

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:56

      Did you create this in your garage?

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:32

      sig is worried that the video doesnt share his twisted world view

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:44

      More signs of intelligence from the "slg" troll. Lol

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:37

      If he's so good, why did he not allow Libyans the right to vote for their leaders?

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:45

    now lets look at the opposition: these guys arent from 1984( the news24may be!) NATO is aiding this group: EU tax payers are giving them money! Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) The LIFG seeks to replace the current Libyan regime with a hard-line Islamic state. The group is also part of the wider global Islamist extremist movement,as inspired by Al Qa’ida. The group has mounted several operations inside Libya, including a 1996 attempt to assassinate Mu’ammar Qadhafi.

      slg - 2011-07-20 06:07

      They do not. The Transitional Council is largely made up of professionals such as lawyers, teachers and doctors. They do not want a hard-line Islamic state. You're trying to sow propaganda to further your agenda. Are you being paid by Gadhafi?

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:33

      the TNC(Terrorist National Council) is mostly secret,.,noone knows who they are.One of them tho lists his Phd as in privatisation!

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:35

      the TNC has made adevils bargain with NATO to bomb Libyans in order that they will abandon gadafi and the Jamahirya, and accept their rule (who would elect them!) and the end of all their free health care, free homes, free education....now what fool would want to give up all that and sell Libya to the europeans?

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:47

      The NATO terrorists in Benghazi are a combination of AL Qaeda and CIA operatives. Professionals? With PhDs in privitization? LOL!

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:47

    interesting language by the left leaning guardian(who are they guarding?) '"Thousands of schoolchildren and students were bussed into Benghazi's basketball stadium, where they saw a frightened young man with curly hair and beard, kneeling with his hands bound behind his back, pleading for his life before people's prosecutors”, etc' the assassin is made to seem a cherub!!!!!!!!!!!!

      slg - 2011-07-20 06:42

      In your mind, that is. To clear thinking people not.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:36

      'clear thinking' SIG is happy that NATO is bombing Libya.LOL what a twit!

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:49

      The "slg" troll's MO is standard military: 'don't think, don't question just do what you're told.'

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:40

      Nato is not bombing Libya. It is bombing Libya's military resources which unfortunately have been commandeered by the dictator Gadhafi and his sons to try illegally try and hold onto power and deny Libyans the basic human right to vote for their leaders. For the record, I would have far preferred had the international community given Gadhafi and his sons a period of time to surrender, and target them directly, instead of allowing him to wage this long, drawn out war that is causing untold suffering to tens of thousands of Libyans.

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:49

    the rest of the story: Libya, 84 The cia backed, trained and continues to support the exile Group that tried to assassinate qaddafi in 84. The plot failed and qaddafi Executed a number of the group. The cia-backed group is called the national Front for the salvation of libya (nfsl) and is led by gen youssef Magarieff. The saudis have provided $7 million to the nfsl. Cia agents Advised nfsl leaders and trained their recruits in western europe, sudan And morocco. Jack anderson washington post 6/12/85 ------------------------ now why are CIA trained assassins now made to look like cherubs?

      slg - 2011-07-20 06:10

      The CIA is a force for good in the world. It is not perfect by any means, but it operates under the US constitution, which is based on democratic principles and the freedom of the individual. Why won't Gadhafi allow elections in Libya? And why did he kill civilians and say he would hunt civilians down like rats? How about answering these questions.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:37

      now in know your delusional...thanks for the confirmation...as we see the CIA trains assasins..is that allowed in the aUS constitution? show me where...

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:40

      gadafui never said hed hunt down civilians at all, and as Alan Kuperman informs us(not you as your too deluded) 'Human Rights Watch has released data on Misurata, the next-biggest city in Libya and scene of protracted fighting, revealing that Moammar Khadafy is not deliberately massacring civilians but rather narrowly targeting the armed rebels who fight against his government. Misurata’s population is roughly 400,000. In nearly two months of war, only 257 people — including combatants — have died there. Of the 949 wounded, only 22 — less than 3 percent — are women. If Khadafy were indiscriminately targeting civilians, women would comprise about half the casualties. http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-14/bostonglobe/29418371_1_rebel-stronghold-civilians-rebel-positions as you can see hes not hunting down civilians...better luck with your next BIG LIE...

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:51

      @slg: Actually the NATO Terrorists call themselves "rats". More misinformation from you. Lol!

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 06:52

      @Brian: Nothing at all that the "slg" troll says is based on facts. That's why it's a troll.

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:42

      What about the thousands of Libyans who have been detained and the thousands of women who have been raped into submission?

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:50

    more cherubs: Libya, 84 In may 84 15 gunmen attacked the residence of col. Qadhafi. A Sudan-based group called the national libya salvation front claimed Responsibility for the attack. Nair, k. (1986). Devil and his dart 98

      slg - 2011-07-20 06:30

      Did you see that waitress bag that poor woman who had been raped by Gadhafi's henchmen? Is that the kind of society you aspire to live in? The new generation in Libya are saying no, and the world is listening and supporting them. The waves of change that started in Tunisia, moved to Egypt, then Libya which Gadhafi and sons tried to stop will not be stopped. Especially by your propaganda.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:41

      what evidence have u that she was raped by anyone?

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 07:01

      @Brian: You lovely lovely lovely entity. You flushed them out. Well done! We can now see it's a NATO terrorist just as I thought as soon as I began reading their comments.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 07:05

      DOUBLE STANDARD ALERT! When a supposed "rape" supposedly occurs in the East or South, it's legitimate. However, rape prosecutions in western countries have a failure rate of more than 95%. Apparently "rape" does not exist in the West or North. Tell that to western and northern Women.

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:51

    meet the cherubs: Libya, 81-92 The national salvation front has no fixed hqs. Its leader, Ibrahim sahad, operates out of his home in virginia. Front forced to move From morocco to sudan and then out of arab world altogether and close down Its radio station in sudan and then egypt. Front once had hundreds of Troops recruited from libyan soldiers captured in chad. About 350 brought To us by cia after chad gvt expelled them. Now they scattered in 25 states. In 84 front launched an unsuccessful rocket and machine-gun attack against Military barracks of bab aziziyya - usually used as a residence by gadhafi. Most guerrillas libyan students living in u.s. And europe. In dec 91 "al Hayat" from front sources wrote "libyan contra camp in america," and said 400 rebels are preparing to fight - they training in the u.s. Washington Post 4/18/92 a15

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:42

      ditto to my response

  • brian - 2011-07-19 16:55

    notice the major powers seeking to end Libya freedom are the colonial powers of old./ Gadaffi stands in their way of ruling africa once again..what better way to oust him than to demonise him...

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:55

      Sadly the rest of world has largely given up on Africa. It's not even on the radar. A small fraction of foreign investment flows to the continent.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:43

      sadly you live in a fools paradise...US is at work making life ugly for somalians, backing Rwandas real dictator, so makking life ugly for rwandans ad congos etc

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 07:08

      @Brian: Wow. If there was ever any doubt about the absolute ignorance of "slg" troll, it has now dispelled it for everyone. Let's not even bother with an education attempt. It likes its ignorance. No more feeding the troll.

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:44

      South Africans are smarter than you think.

  • brian - 2011-07-19 17:03

    from Thierry Meyssan whose been to Libya: 'The National Transitional Council (NTC) has been incapable of constituting a social base. Its provisional capital Benghazi used to be a city of 800 000 inhabitants. In February, hundreds of thousands turned out to celebrate its creation. Today, the “city liberated by the rebels” and “protected by NATO” is virtually a lifeless agglomeration with barely 15 000 inhabitants left, most of whom are people who don’t have the means to leave. The Benghazis did not flee the fighting; they fled from the new regime. On the contrary, the “Gaddafi regime” was capable of mobilizing 1.7 million people for a rally in Tripoli on 1 July and has recently pledged to get involved in the organization of regional demonstrations every Friday. Last week, more than 400 000 rallied in Sabha (in the South) and a similar crowd was expected to gather in Az Yawiyah (in the West). It should be noted that these demonstrations are staged against NATO which has so far killed more than one thousand of their compatriots, destroyed the country’s non-oil infrastructures and stopped all supplies through a naval blockade. They center around the support for Gaddafi as an anti-colonialist leader, but don’t necessarily signify a retroactive approval of all his policies.'

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 23:38

      Have a look at the marches here: http://libyanrevolution.wordpress.com/the-marches/

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:44

      sigs first intelligent comment...its a waste of time trying to educate a piece of meat called SIG

  • Jelena - 2011-07-19 17:06

    http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/crimes/25-03-2011/117336-reason_for_war_oil-0/ The Libyan leader proposed the nationalisation of U.S. oil companies, as well as those of UK, Germany, Spain, Norway, Canada and Italy in 2009. On January 25, 2009, Muammar Al Gaddafi announced that his country was studying the nationalisation of foreign companies due to lower oil prices. "The oil-exporting countries should opt for nationalisation because of the rapid fall in oil prices. We must put the issue on the table and discuss it seriously," said Gaddafi. "Oil should be owned by the State at this time, so we could better control prices by the increase or decrease in production," said the Libyan leader. These statements have worried the main foreign companies operating in Libya: Anglo-Dutch Shell, British Petroleum, U.S. ExxonMobil, Hess Corp., Marathon Oil, Occidental Petroleum and ConocoPhillips, the Spanish Repsol, Germany's Wintershall, Austria's OMV , Norway's Statoil, Eni and Canada's Petro Canada.

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 23:39

      Thank you for your astute analysis and solid facts Jelena.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:45

      if it was delusional, sig would be the first to endorse it

      slg - 2011-07-30 06:46

      That's how delusional Gadhafi is/was, proposing the nationalization of companies in other countries. Huge ego.

  • Ozen - 2011-07-19 17:12

    How many executions happens place in the U.S., RIGHT NOW ????? How many black people were lynched in the U.S. ????? How many people were killed by U.S. "military advisers" around the world ???? Ooops, sorry we are talking about black people,poor people, latin americans, native americans, africans, arabs, and other kind of people who doesn´t care !!!!

      slg - 2011-07-20 04:54

      Clutching at straws. Gadhafi and sons have killed thousands of civilians, and threatened to "hunt down like rats" anyone who wanted nothing more than the right to vote. You're trying to distract. It ain't working.

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:46

      prove it sig

      brian - 2011-07-20 10:47

      sig is the master of the BIG LIE..a lineal descendent of Goebels..only not as bright

      poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-21 07:10

      @ Brian: Lol!

  • brian - 2011-07-19 17:12

    some more cherubs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUENh6sG3zA

  • poshbirdgabi - 2011-07-19 17:14

    I have begun to really question supposedly African "news" sources. Just yesterday AllAfrica.com had an article with erroneous pro-NATO info on its site. There was a link at the bottom to the Vancouver Sun news site where they apparently got the article. The Vancouver Sun got it from a European news wire service. I called the Vancouver Sun to ask where the news wire got their info because much of it was false. They simply said that the newswire had their people in Libya but the info that Vancouver Sun was using was completely unverified. Furthermore, just yesterday I was watching Libyan TV and there were a slew of European journalists discussing the collusion of mainstream media in the demonization of Qadhafi and the murder of Libyans by NATO. This is not the first time western reporters on the ground have raised this issue. See here: http://www.presstv.com/detail/187010.html AND HERE: http://endwaronlibya.com/month-1/

      brian - 2011-07-19 17:20

      good work posh