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Put pressure on Gaddafi, US urges Africa

2011-08-10 09:01

Washington - Senior US diplomats are visiting several African countries as part of continuing efforts to urge leaders there to press Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi to leave power immediately, officials said on Tuesday.

Having benefited financially from Gaddafi’s policies, a number of African countries have been reluctant to call for the long-time leader to step down and have criticised the Nato-led military campaign in Libya.

Gene Cretz, the US ambassador who left Libya after Gaddafi launched his bloody crackdown on the opposition in February, and Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Donald Yamamoto arrived on Monday in Addis Ababa, headquarters of the African Union, State Department deputy spokesperson Mark Toner said.

The diplomats "are in Africa to meet with African Union members to discuss the crisis in Libya and the need for Gaddafi to relinquish power now," he told AFP.

Toner said the pair met with Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi and would meet with African Union Chairperson Jean Ping before leaving Addis Ababa later.

They also met with Mahmud Jibril, leader of Libya's opposition National Transitional Council who was visiting Ethiopia.

"They had a productive meeting on the current situation in Libya and agreed on the importance of maintaining international pressure on Gaddafi," Toner said.

During a visit to AU headquarters in June, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pressed all African states to demand Gaddafi to step down as well as to expel his diplomats and increase African support for the opposition.

African leaders have publicly criticised Nato's assault on Gaddafi’s regime, with some accusing the alliance of abusing the United Nations resolution that authorised its bombing campaign.

Comments
  • naeem.dollie - 2011-08-10 09:29

    The US has nothing to do with Libya and Africa. None of their business - why are they here? There's never been a problem with Gaddafi or Libya until the US opened their mouth. The US are here to cause problems and to make everyone control their countries the way they do. Clearly it's not working with the debt they're in. Did you know this about Libya?: -No interest on loans -Students would get paid the average salary for the profession they are studying for -If you are unable to get employment the state would pay the full salary as if you were employed until you find employment. -When you get married the couple gets an apartment or house for free from the Government -You could go to college anywhere in the world. The state pays 2,500 euros plus accommodation and car allowance -The cars are sold at factory cost -Libya has no debt (like the US' trillions) -Free education and health care for all citizens -25% of the population with a university degree -No beggers on the streets and nobody is homeless (until the recent bombing) -Bread costs only $0.15 per loaf I'd say Gaddafi was doing a good job until the US caused disruptions. Dear US: LEAVE AFRICA ALONE! WE DO NOT WANT TO BE LIKE YOU!

      letsee - 2011-08-10 09:50

      I FULLY AGREE. The USA should leave Africa alone. Don't get involved at all and "at all" means: No investment, no AIDS treatment subsidies, no food donations, no political interference and all else. Just leave Africa “die” slowly.

      mphozania - 2011-08-10 10:00

      They will fail. I said it before, MG said it and I continue saying, they will fail. Next, they must find a new place for their Rebel puppets we don't want traitors in Africa. Viva la revolusione.

      nn.prv - 2011-08-10 10:39

      Well said Dollie,they should try and pay their own debts and leave Africa alone. They want the oil to offset their debt.Bloody agents !

      slg - 2011-08-10 16:12

      Such ignorance. Thankfully it's not the prevailing world view. The new generation of the Middle East are demanding change from tyranny and oppression. It is happening. They deserve it.

      Anton - 2011-08-10 19:01

      naeem.dollie You are now the 15th person, in the last month, that posts this crap on these gaddafi sites. ( Although, I am glad you did personlize it, by adding your own words in the last sentence ) Tell me, just between you and me, do you get paid for posting this bs ??? Or does your family stay in Tripoli, and if you don't do some promotion work for this thug, it has been the last time you have seen them, alive !!! Just some kind suggestions to help you; Maybe some pamplets to give to motorists at robots, And start educating kids early, so why not, pamplets at the gates of primary schools, And maybe with every KFC take away, a free gaddafi doll. I don't know......, I am just trying to help!! But today was a very big boost, for the pro gaddafi campaign. They had this "massive" demonstration in Pretoria. Off course one never knows the exact amount of demonstrators, but realiable sources, say anything between 34 and 37 people!! Just one last question; Coffins...., can one also get those below factory costs??? Sorry,.... just asking !!!

      Maria Gornell - 2011-08-11 11:55

      Sorry don't believe a word of this, if I did I would be moving over but no country will do this, the best country in the world to live in is Sweden and even they don't provide all this, utter lies

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:34

      The US is hardly involved in the Nato operations anyway. You also seem to overlook that Turkey is a member of Nato. That's a country of 73 million Muslims. Your wolf dives is really outdated and conveniently biased. As for the rest of your message. the same stats were trotted out by the Soviet Union, Cuba, Apartheid South Africa, and other totalitarian regimes. These regimes were not all dark. They had their positives, but I think few would think they were more positive than negative.

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:35

      That should be world view, not "wolf dives". :)

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:36

      mphozania, the revolution is moving along nicely, the one that's freeing Libyans from Gadhafi's brutal 40 year rule.

  • letsee - 2011-08-10 09:46

    Gaddafi gives big money to keep African leaders in power. Does the USA expect these leaders to "remove" him?

      Sifiso - 2011-08-10 13:06

      @letsee: you don't see at all. He learnt from the US how to operate, just like Osama. The US needs to accept that it is not God's gift to the world and most importantly, the days of putting people in power using "rebels" are over. And the stupid soldiers they put up for press conferences: people in the US might care more about the "presentation", the rest of the word filters out the junk they spew.

      slg - 2011-08-10 16:14

      Sifiso, you don't know what you're talking about. You're supporting a dictator that has oppressed the people of his country more than the Apartheid system in South Africa. Is this really what you want?

      Al Esa - 2011-08-11 09:18

      The US gives big money to the UN. Do you expect the UN to be neutral and stand for what's right but against the will of its biggest donors?

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:41

      Al Esa, you're obviously unaware, or are choosing to b unaware, of the ongoing tension between the US and the UN, to the extent that the US often refuses to pay its dues to the UN. There's been ongoing tension between the two for many years. The US has often said the UN is a waste of its money. This tension has led to less influence by the US in the UN, not more. So your contention is false.

  • Daemos1 - 2011-08-10 09:51

    THe USA mustn't be hypocritical when they have had dictators on their payroll

      Jason - 2011-08-10 10:11

      hypocritical or not too many leaders live like kings while the people suffer.. I can't stand Americans but the fact still remains is Africa is often is own worst enemy!

      Daemos1 - 2011-08-10 10:24

      The vast majority of leaders live like kings while their people suffer. And what you say about africa is true, but not exclusive to our continent.The world as a whole is on a collision course with the consequences of or history.

      daaivark - 2011-08-10 11:12

      I agree with Jason.

      slg - 2011-08-10 16:28

      Thankfully, that's the past. There were no democratic leaders in the Middle East. This region and its people have been ruled by dictators tyrants for centuries. They made a Faustian bargain, choosing the least oppressive. That time is changing. The new generation is speaking. The Middle East will be free. Hallelujah. It's thrilling.

  • Kunta-Kinte - 2011-08-10 10:08

    Africa will do no such thing you lying scum of terrorist murderers. Westerners, the UK and US to be precise overlooks the wrongs of dictatorships as long as they are client states of the US, eg. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and all the other middle eastern aristocratic and kleptocratic dictatorships, as well as the 'Stans' eg Uzbekistan, and of course all the post-war backed and US trained dictatorships in Latin America. All summed up by US president Roosevelt describing one of the worst Latin American dictators, Somoza of Nicaragua with the words - "Somoza may be a son of a b!tch, but he's OUR son of a b!tch."

      daaivark - 2011-08-10 11:12

      Such pragmatic language, Kunta.

      Sharief - 2011-08-10 12:34

      Dont listen to daaivark,he is an a-hole

      slg - 2011-08-10 16:25

      They're not overlooking the wrongs of the dictator Gadhafi, that's for sure. Thankfully that time is over. There now is a legitimate and strong wave for change in the Middle East, a region that has been plagued by tyrannical rule for centuries. The people are demanding change and it is happening. The time of the dictator is over.

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:43

      Kunta, again, do you expect people to take your views about the US being murderers, scum bags, terrorists and what have you when you brandish a Kalashnakov as your image? Funny. :)

  • Jason - 2011-08-10 10:09

    Won't happen, Africa love dictators! Its not what the leaders do for the people its what the leaders do for the other leaders.

  • Strategist - 2011-08-10 10:55

    I think Russia and China have to start supplying arms to the UK demonstrators. The youths have the right to voice the anger over the corrupt and bankrupt UK government. This is what the west did in Libya. So we want to see how UK will respond to this.

      daaivark - 2011-08-10 11:13

      Another ridiculous strategy. Very very productive.

      Daemos1 - 2011-08-10 11:16

      uhm......

      Kunta-Kinte - 2011-08-10 11:33

      Agree, the rioters should be declared the legitimate leaders of england. cameron and his goons have lost all legitimacy and must live the UK and go0 into exile in Mongolia.

      slg - 2011-08-10 16:17

      Do you see the UK government turning on the rioters and killing them? There's been one death. After four days, water cannons authorized.

      Anton - 2011-08-11 07:48

      Strategists, Sorry, but they won't respond to your garbage. They realize, they got a problem , and they are going to sort this out. And NOT, by mowing their people down , with machine guns, and planting land mines to blow the up. This is the difference between a civilized country and a country run by a piece of scum, like this thug gaddafi

      Al Esa - 2011-08-11 09:26

      When they looted shops, burnt buildings and robed ammunitions and military artilleries in Libya they were 'Freedom fighters' now that they have looted shops after one of their own has been killed they are branded 'Thugs, criminals and the filth of the society.' Was the British PM's threats any different from those given by Gadhafi?? I wonder...

      daaivark - 2011-08-11 09:39

      Al Esa. So what's the difference between water cannons and missiles?

      Nom-de-guerre - 2011-08-11 10:13

      Anton, Amerikans have been mowing down brown people since the end of WWII, the most recent being Fallujah in Iraq. Google "drone attacks" and see the horrifying numbers that pop up. Nowadays they are killing civilians more efficiently and without ever bothering to know who the victims are. Even Obama’s daughters love the predator drones.

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:46

      Nom de Guerre means Name of War. Do you really expect people to take these views seriously when you proudly strut around with that bloodthirsty name? Your message is also factually incorrect. Writing it down does not make it true.

  • phumlanim - 2011-08-10 11:25

    They have distroyed Lybia without permission from Africa, now they want Africa to be involved, they must finish what they have started Shame on you USA

      Sharief - 2011-08-10 12:36

      They are loosing that senseless war,time has come for Islam to be heard so any attemps from America will fail

      slg - 2011-08-10 16:18

      The two African members of the UN Security Council were signatories to UN Resolution 1973 that authorized Member States to take any steps necessary to protect civilians against Gadhafi's stated intent to show no mercy and kill like rats those Libyans who wanted nothing more than freedom from oppression and the right to vote. .

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:49

      The US is hardly involved in Nato's operations in Libya. Did you not know this? Also, Turkey is a leading member of Nato. Turkey is a country of 73 million Muslims. Are they Western terrorists too?

  • Sharief - 2011-08-10 12:07

    America are the biggest terrorists around yet they want pressure put on Gaddafi..what crap!All i see is that they want Libya's oil,cause their economy is collapsing!

      slg - 2011-08-10 16:19

      In what way are they terrorists? Please be specific.

      slg - 2011-08-10 17:04

      Ten to fifteen years from now, the US's need for imported oil will be cut in half. This future is having a major impact on the Middle East now, driving change.

      Maria Gornell - 2011-08-11 11:48

      slg why do you need people to tell you? They invaded Iraq under false pretences claiming weapons of mass destruction, there was none, they have torn countries and communities apart throughout history and now are keeping their millions hidden but letting their people starve to death. they are criminals.

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:52

      Geez, Maria, that's dark. Yes, clearly the invasion of Iraq was wrong, but understandable in the context of being attacked for the first time in their history on 9/11. Notwithstanding this clear mistake, to hold the US responsible for the tens of thousands of deaths caused intentionally in Iraq by Al-Quaeda is delusional. As to your last sentence, what does that mean, keeping their millions hidden?

  • Strategist - 2011-08-10 12:08

    Only sellouts, zionist collaborators and western puppet presidents, like Khama of Botswana, will try and 'put pressure on Gaddafi'. Africa has realised how the west lied about the 'Libyan No Fly Zone' to reach their evil objective, that is Regime Change in those countries that refuse to bow down to the western imperialist system. So Africa cannot not afford to go to bed with the murderous west.

      Kunta-Kinte - 2011-08-10 12:12

      That brown noser khama is a real problem indeed.

      slg - 2011-08-10 16:22

      Botswana's integrity is well known here, down south. Often it's been the lone democracy on the African continent. It is pretty much the only African country that stands up to Mugabe and tells him he's illegitimate and must step down. That you label Botswana as you have is consistent with your support of a brutal dictator in Gadhafi, not freedom from oppression of the African people and the right to vote. This should be clear to all South Africans now. Thank you for saying this.

      Anton - 2011-08-11 06:07

      Kunta-Kinte Thank God,here in Africa, there are very few SICK DISTURBED RACISTS like you. You are en embarrasment to Africa

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:58

      Gadhafi is being removed from power, as he should. End of story.

  • Marcus - 2011-08-10 13:12

    Dear USA: Put preasure on David Cameron to solve the problems currently engulfing Britain...shame, the little baren Island will soon be the battle field, I know when the masses are compact, they can bring down any strong force on thier way...EU must put pressure Cameron...!!! And oh, how far is the DEBT catastrophe...???...has that been solved...??? Kindest Regards,

      Maria Gornell - 2011-08-11 11:51

      We are being sold to China we have no money

  • slg - 2011-08-10 16:30

    Watch last night's PBS Newshour. There's an insert about Syria and the Arab Spring. Don't miss it. www.pbs.org/newshour [9 August]

  • Al Esa - 2011-08-11 09:59

    Most people in here are delusional consumed by ignorance and lies spread by the western media as well as dishonest Al Jazeera. If you want to analyze a situation, you have to listen to the two sides of the story. The west has all these media lined up to spread their propaganda while the Libyan government has only one TV station spreading their propaganda. Well why is NATO so scared of the only propaganda machine the Libyans have if they are not loosing the propaganda war yet. Not all forms of governments are good for all cultures. The Libyan war is all about the economy - if someone threatens your economical power and tries to enlighten the people you have been taking advantage of in order empower yourself economically what do you do? Am sorry to say, but you have to take the head of the snake. Thats why they are trying to stop Gadhafi because he was out trying to make African independent of the western economical scum just like he had done in Libya. Remember if you just sit and wait for the truth to come to you, you might never get it - go out and seek it. The two African countries that helped authorize the war were duped by the French and the Britons just like the US was. The American intentions were good but the sinister intentions by the Britons and French were too complex to understand then. Am sorry it might be too late. Naeem.dollie you got it right this time. They might not agree with you but the truth is always painful. Gadhafi has both +ve and -ve sides

      Nom-de-guerre - 2011-08-11 10:19

      The Dictatorship of Capital decides how news and information should be fed to the besotted masses--through its propaganda outlets of CNNs, Euronews, BBC, Al Jazeera, Times of London, and a host of others not mentioned. Those that have the capacity to bring about the lasting, worthwhile, changes to our world, will not do so, because their real motives are hidden in the rhetoric and propaganda. The history of the defeated and the subjugated, will be buried, along with their unnamed, uncounted dead, who paid the price for the decisions of 'leaders', living and breathing, thousands of miles from their unmarked graves. It has been a long road from Vietnam.....but the marching goes on to the same beat.

      Maria Gornell - 2011-08-11 11:54

      @ NOm -de-guerre but propaganda is in your country too, and I thought Al Jazeera is informative and objective, can you answer why these people say Gaddafi is murderer?

      slg - 2011-08-14 02:57

      Libya is about basic human rights to vote and live free of oppression. It;s a continuation of the waves of change that started in Tunisia, spread to Egypt, then Libya. Bin Ali and Mubarak had the good sense and dignity to step down. Not Gadhafi. He is therefore being removed from power, power that he's held onto for 40 years, no less. It's not rocket science.

      Nikan - 2011-08-14 03:55

      Seriousy, Al Esa, look at the likes and dislikes of those who are supporting comments like yours and Dollie....it shows. I'm American and 60% of Americans don't support this stupid silly rebellious war. Tell the rebels to go to Italy if they don't like Gaddafi. Maybe some of them will drown and die on their way. It's a better world without them. Millions Marched in Harlem, NY in support of Gaddafi today. What does that tell you?

      slg - 2011-08-14 04:27

      Nikan, millions did not march in NYC in support of Gadhafi. :) Are you that arrogant. You're not smarter than everybody.

  • Nikan - 2011-08-14 03:48

    It appears "slg", this coward who hides behind initials, is an adamant and pervasive supporter of "democracy" for these "rebels". Well, you brought up Egypt and Mubarak -- tell me, what democracy has Egypt gained? I mean, other than the Muslim Brotherhood and secularist/radical Islamic groups trying to take over the country and record breaking persecutions of Coptic Christians? What stability has been brought to Egypt? Democracy you say?! I spit in your face for your disillusioned ideas of democracy. It's called, communication and time. Nothing -- no kind of democracy -- can happen in months, one year, or even several years. There needs to be dialogue and time -- transitional time, for true democracy to prevail. These rebels are selfish, self-absorbed, parasitic Libyans who insist on sucking out the military and financial help of foreign nations because their cowardly selves know that they cannot win this battle alone. They are cowards of all cowards and beggars and all beggars. In America, we believe in fighting and EARNING our democracy -- if you do not have the money, power, or support to win democracy, you don't deserve it. We had a million man march here in Harlem, New York in support of the TRUE Libya and Mr. Gaddafi; not for these rebels are who are looting towns, burning and vandalizing businesses, killing their own people, and indiscriminately murdering Libyans who support their actual leader! I don't support rebellious thugs!!!! LONG LIVE GADDAFI AND CHEERS TO LIBYA

      slg - 2011-08-14 04:30

      Tell that to your madman leader Gadhafi. He chose no dialogue. Egypt is in-process towards democracy Egypt style. Libya will create it's own unique firm of democracy Libya style once madman Gadhafi and his cronies (which appears to include you) are gone. Unless you have the good sense to change.

  • Nikan - 2011-08-14 03:52

    And furthermore, SLG -- you are a idiot: "The US is hardly involved in the Nato operations anyway". HAHAHAHA, are YOU SERIOUS? You imbecile. Do you know that NATO would not be able to support itself without the U.S.? OUR AIRCRAFTS are scouring and dropping the bombs for these Libyan rebel cowards! Do you know that OUR TAX DOLLARS (American) are paying for SEVENTY FIVE (75%) percent of NATO's funding for this stupid ridiculous Libyan War?!? Please, hush your mouth and put a sock in it if you don't know your information. Libya would be in the mercy of God if America did not support this unconstitutional mission financially and militarily. HA! You clown.

      slg - 2011-08-14 04:33

      Ranting like your madman leader Gadhafi doesn't make things true. What you're saying is false. What about Turkey? A country of 73 million Muslims. It's a leading member of NATO. Is it a US puppet too? Is everyone a puppet who doesn't agree with you or do what you say?

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