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44 gays arrested at Zimbabwe party

2012-08-13 12:20

Cape Town - Zimbabwean police arrested 44 members of the Gays and Lesbian Association of Zimbabwe (Galz) attending a party at their offices in Harare, according to a report on Monday.

Galz officials, who have in the past suffered harassment from the police and politicians, had launched a report entitled Galz Rights Violations Report before holding a party at the offices, said Radio VOP.

According to their lawyer, Marufu Mandevere, 44 Galz members were arrested and taken to Harare Central Police station. They were later released without charge.

In a statement, Galz condemned the arrest and detention of its members.

"Galz deplores the arrest of its 44 members who had attended the launch of the Galz Violations Report and a briefing on the second draft of the Zimbabwe constitution on 11 August 2012 at the Galz offices," the statement read.

"Police, some of them visibly drunk, assaulted most of the members using baton sticks, open hands and clenched fists before detaining them without charge. Such use of force is in direct contradiction to the Global Political Agreement.

"Denying Zimbabweans the right to participate in processes that compliment national efforts is an infringement of the right to freedom of assembly and association."

Comments
  • JohncarlosBiza - 2012-08-13 12:27

    Mugabe cannot get any worse than he's been the past 10 years

      lulama.nokubeni - 2012-08-13 12:30

      someone needs to shoot him dead

      Pulverturm - 2012-08-13 14:42

      Widzo, it wasn't just Verwoed who was for apartheid, and it wasn't just Hitler who was against the Jews. Thousands of people supported their stances... didn't make it right!

      jody.beggs - 2012-08-13 15:48

      There is nothing worse than discriminating against minorities... What will Zoomer do about this . Nothing Damn the man.

  • Dimitri - 2012-08-13 12:36

    Sick people!!

  • maryjane.mphahlele - 2012-08-13 12:39

    this is sick,how do they do that?

      jody.beggs - 2012-08-13 15:49

      @andreas.meyer.12327 its like making a stupid comment for some people. Natural. Idjit.

  • boffin.bobreturns - 2012-08-13 12:46

    Mugabes " Goon Platoon " strikes again !

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-08-13 12:58

    Can the Zimbabwean police come take their friends hu ran away from the crazee President Mugabe

      wehan.victor - 2012-08-13 13:42

      +1 They should go back to their broken country!

  • punkdrachel - 2012-08-13 12:59

    This sounds familiar. Except the people weren't gay they were black. So sad to see history repeating itself so unnecessarily. I hope my kids will never live in the world we do today

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-08-13 12:59

    Ag shame! Poor things!

  • bmaestro - 2012-08-13 13:00

    mugabe hates gays to the maximum.what do you expect?

      marius.j.rensburg.3 - 2012-08-13 13:35

      Heihachi - God also said people that work on a Sunday shall be put to death, eat pork, etc - which part of what God says should I listen to and which shall I ignore - please clarify "oh wise one"...

      AMOTOSO - 2012-08-13 14:01

      Which part o the bible say keep sunday, i know where it talks againt gays, so to hel with gays

      mike.boylen - 2012-08-13 14:23

      @AMOTOSO. Try the 10 commandments. You'll find a mention of keeping the sabbath. No mention of homosexuals though. Strangely, Jesus never mentioned it either. The only (questionable) laws that appear to condemn homosexuality were made by men.

      jody.beggs - 2012-08-13 15:55

      @heihachi.mishima.7731 it also says though shall not murder in the 10 commandments. And jesus said "love thy neighbour !" That's what happens when you pick Buy Bull verses to suite the way you feel. So putting " gays to death" is against the Buy Bull i.e. means go to hell. If your stupid enough to "believe" faerie tales.

      jody.beggs - 2012-08-13 15:57

      @AMOTOSO Wow , really are you that un-educated that you can't see how angry you treat other "people" who are not like you. I get you've gone "gay bashing" , haven't you ... Idjit.

  • mercedez.beiling - 2012-08-13 13:13

    .......Em...what crime did they commit exactly??????? Seriously since when is having fun a crime?????? So were they arrested for a launch or assault????? This report makes nonsense!

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 13:25

      heihachi.mishima.7731 When some religious people like you want to use ancient texts to justify acting upon their prejudices, citing the book of Leviticus suits them just fine. On the other hand, when such people want to indulge in practices prohibited by those same ancient texts, ignoring the bible suits them just fine. For example, Leviticus. Particularly the bit about no tattoos. It's amusing stuff. I frequently wonder why, among the many rules and prescriptions therein, Christians don't sacrifice oxen or go to the "priest" to be inspected for "white marks". It's all there, right next to the warning regarding the abomination of homosexuality

      heihachi.mishima.7731 - 2012-08-13 13:37

      @zaatheist what makes you think im religious?

      mbossenger - 2012-08-13 14:44

      heihachi.mishima.7731 - hmmm, that constitution you appear to uphold so well.. I could have sworn it makes mention of accepting people of all religious presuasions and gender orientation. I'm also afraid that this isn't a Christian country, despite your views on the numbers, so the Bible has absolutely no authority when it comes to our laws.

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 14:46

      heihachi.mishima.7731 You said so in you original comment which you have now deleted. Coward!

      heihachi.mishima.7731 - 2012-08-13 15:10

      @zaatheist,ha ha ha ha im afraid you are going senile sir, my original comment is still very much up there. @mbossenger the constitution does indeed say that, and i absolutely agree the bible has no bairing on law. However we both know the Bible holds more authority in peoples lives than the law. i can bet you these cops werent thinking about the law the they klapped these okes.Still none of this makes me a christian.you all assume too much.

      mbossenger - 2012-08-13 15:37

      "However we both know the Bible holds more authority in peoples lives than the law" - Really, this comes as a surprise to me, as the bible holds absolutely no authority in my life.

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 16:19

      heihachi.mishima.7731 Apart from anything else you are dishonest to boot. Or was I perhaps responding to a phantom comment somewhere between that of mercedez and mine?

  • bamakhani - 2012-08-13 13:25

    My brother Edwin was also there. Im glad is out unharmed.

      boffin.bobreturns - 2012-08-13 13:27

      bamakhani....You left Edwin behind !!!!!

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-08-13 13:26

    The neoliberals and gay activists must humble themselves and accept the sovereignity of Zimbabweans. It is clear that this 'lifestyle' is illegal in that country as stipulated in their constitution. Those who do not like Zimbabwean laws must march out of that country and leave its people in peace!

      lucas.chingonzo - 2012-08-13 13:39

      Phumi thanks wel said

      mike.down.5492 - 2012-08-13 13:42

      There are no people in Zimbabwe to leave in peace, most of them live here in civilization .

      Pulverturm - 2012-08-13 13:49

      Perhaps Black people should have humbled themselves and accepted the sovereignty of America and South Africa when they had their separation and apartheid laws? I think not! Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity! Think very carefully before you spew hateful bigoted opinions!

  • lucas.chingonzo - 2012-08-13 13:30

    We dont need gays in zim there mst go back 2 S.A

      johanttblom - 2012-08-13 14:17

      Can all the Zimbabweans that don't respect our constitution also please F-off back to Zimbabwe!

      maokeng.mankge - 2012-08-13 14:58

      Can the Fcken hungry Zimbabweans get out of South Africa

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-13 17:53

      Lucas, You seem to havee made your own version of 'freedom' !!! True freedom-----------is the protection of minorities-------ANY minority

  • Tony - 2012-08-13 13:36

    Major bummer!

  • Hermann - 2012-08-13 13:38

    I just love the homophobia and religious fanaticism in the comments. The issue at stake is Mugabe's crazy way or no way, sela.

      Hermann - 2012-08-13 14:20

      @skosana. Yes Mr Elephant I suggest you start listening to the wise owls. Homosexuality was outlawed by Mugabe just as he outlawed productive white farmers and now Zimbabwe goes hungry for food and hungry for human rights. Homosexuality is not my scene, but if people want to be like that let it be they are not harming or threatening me.

      skosana.ndlovu - 2012-08-13 14:26

      For your own info Mugabe just inherited a constitution from the rhodesians , he never made one himself, secondly Mugabe gave back what belonged to ceasar and that is ireversable. The land belongs to black zimbabweans and who ever want to do business with us should do so at our own terms

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 14:49

      skosana.ndlovu Ah. a racist homophobic bigot. Just as apartheid discriminated against people based on something (the colour of their skin) which they couldn't change, gays are now being discriminated against based on something (their sexual orientation) they can't change, - Reverend Peter Storey, bishop of the Methodist church, South Africa

  • jlushaba - 2012-08-13 13:42

    im not an expect n m not a religious person. But it seems to me that most people dnt hav respect 4 God's laws and way of living. Yet they claim 2 b religious n fear God, yet they always associate themselves with what God dislike according to the bible. Most countries r Christians, but their actions and laws differ to what the bible says. . . . . . . R we a lost Nation, or being fooled by Satan? I really wonder

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 14:50

      You are a religious bigoted nutjob because, by you own admission, you believe a god exists. And, oh dear, you also believe in Satan. And you are not "a religious person!" PAH!

  • skosana.ndlovu - 2012-08-13 13:55

    Some states in the USA have outlawed homosuxuality but no one says a word but let it be zim or Uganda and everyone terms it barbarism why. Does it mean that Africans don't have an opinion.shame on all those who support what God has said is evil

      mbossenger - 2012-08-13 14:03

      They haven't outlawed homosexuality, they have banned gay marriage. And there are many people fighting against it...

      skosana.ndlovu - 2012-08-13 14:08

      There are some states where it is banned

      Pulverturm - 2012-08-13 14:21

      Rubbish, there are no states in the US where it is banned you halfwit!

      skosana.ndlovu - 2012-08-13 14:38

      @Puller I don't think its good to call someone's contribution rubish if its a fact if u don't know its not a crime

      Pulverturm - 2012-08-13 14:47

      Please substantiate your stance then. Provide me with the current laws where homosexuality is banned in any state!

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 14:51

      Please list the states or you are just making stuff up.

      skosana.ndlovu - 2012-08-13 15:50

      Fourteen States Still Ban Sodomy. Is Yours One Of Them?\r\n\r\nIt's blatant discrimination: Fourteen states still have laws on the books that criminalize \homosexual conduct\ or sodomy -- even though these laws were found unconstitutional several years ago. Is your state one of them?  Check out the map Mother Jones made -- then you can automatically email your state lawmakers by filling out the for

      Pulverturm - 2012-08-13 16:05

      Not all homosexuals practice sodomy.... How do lesbians for instance practice sodomy? Think before you speak

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 16:24

      skosana.ndlovu Another dishonest Xian - man you guys love to flash around morality and truth but you don't know what the terms man. You clearly stated homosexuality and not sodomy. Many Christian do in fact commit sodomy on a daily basis - it can be a perfectly normal sexual act between heterosexuals. No, once again. Which US states "have outlawed homosuxuality(sic your spelling)" or you are just another liar for Jesus.

      hanjo.overes - 2012-08-14 09:00

      @Skosana - "Sodomy is most commonly legally defined as any contact between the genitals of one person, and the mouth or anus of another." - I'm not sure how anyone would ban Sodomy, by the average definition of the word, as a straight man, I would also protest this primitive law.

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-08-13 14:07

    Good Heavens. Are these the same people commenting here who 'fought for democracy'? You either embrace democracy 100% or you don't. Which is it to be Africa?

      skosana.ndlovu - 2012-08-13 14:12

      What is democracy, is doing what is against God' law democracy. For your own infor if God says this is evil no matter how many you are doing it God will always be right cause no one voted God into office he created you and He can do without u

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-13 14:26

      No hommo

      jasonross987 - 2012-08-13 14:33

      Why do you associate Democracy with Liberalism? Democracy is a system of government by which the government is \supposed\ to introduce laws that reflect the attitude/opinion of the majority of the country's population. If the majority of the country believe that homosexuality is not abnormal then that government should de-criminalise homosexual practises. And visa versa. Just because a country is \democratic\ doesn't mean it is \liberal\??

      Adele - 2012-08-13 16:30

      @Skosana... why aren't you upholding all of God's laws? God is disappointed in you. All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9) A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9) But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21) The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15)

  • skosana.ndlovu - 2012-08-13 14:18

    U don't talk of democracy before God, no one voted Him into office He is the creator so what He says is evil will remain so. He gave you the priviledge to govern yourselves according to and within His laws and because of your pervase mind you go overboard in the name of democracy. Don't worry everyone will stand before Him one day and u will display ur wisdom before your creator

      www.hephzibah.wapsite.me - 2012-08-13 14:34

      @skosana. I agree. Men think they are above God. They MUST and WILL answer to Him whether they want to or not.

      marius.j.rensburg.3 - 2012-08-13 14:53

      Hephzibah - "They MUST and WILL answer to Him whether they want to or not." Wow, why don't you slip out of your fantasy world for 5 seconds and think about what you just said....

      mike.boylen - 2012-08-13 15:02

      @zaatheist. I think that christians have, throughout history, always needed someone to whom they can feel superior. What's the point of being christian if you can't feel better and holier than others in this life and having to wait for their concept of the afterlife to get their reward. Of course, it's all done in the name of god. They are not condemning others, merely helping them to see "the truth"; at least the truth that suits them.

      mbossenger - 2012-08-13 15:11

      So god made them gay so he could later punish them?

      skosana.ndlovu - 2012-08-13 15:35

      I am not surprised by the amount of pipol supporting this evil act for the bible tells me that the road to eternal damnation is wide and many are found in that road. Say whatever u want to say it will not mqake it acceptable before God and don't stress u will face your maker the one who said its evil and u will be a man answering Him

      mbossenger - 2012-08-13 15:47

      skosana.ndlovu - do you realise threatening us with an imaginary deity is not really going to scare us?

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 15:50

      skosana.ndlovu You are obviously just another professional (I make my money peddling god) Xian playing for the crowds of unthinking sheeple. You make your income dispensing whatever hatred and dishonesty suits your agenda with no regard for the needs and feelings of others. Quite frankly you are immoral and contemptible.

      jody.beggs - 2012-08-13 16:05

      @www.hephzibah.wapsite.me what happened to free will ? Are you trying to play god and hand out judgement.... Hypocrite.

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 16:27

      DamnTheMan That is the grubby self-appointed "Apostle Michael" you are referring to. There is no level too low for him to stoop to.

      riaan.mostert.58 - 2012-08-13 17:43

      The lady doth protests too much, methinks!

  • frans.vanderpoll - 2012-08-13 14:31

    Just a question to all those who say homosexuality is a sin in god's eyes: How many of you had sexual intercourse before marriage? Because if I remember correctly, that's also a sin! WAITING!

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-13 16:37

      Fornication,adultery,hommosexuality all are kinds of sins and none of the above will enter the kingdom of heaven

      riaan.mostert.58 - 2012-08-13 17:44

      Heaven is going to be quite an empty place it seems!

  • henk.venter.754 - 2012-08-13 14:41

    ag shame

      riaan.mostert.58 - 2012-08-13 17:45

      You said it already. Ag shame!

  • donnmakaveli - 2012-08-13 14:44

    Damn are these gay people suffering from acceptance syndrome? How do these cops found out they are gays. They should stop being provocative. Neither am I saying we society should dictate to them their sexuality but on the same they shouldn't tryna force us to accept them. Definitely I wouldn't like ma kid witnessing a man kissing a man in a public mall \r\n \r\nMa opinion I'm sorry, but there's no way a person can say that being homosexual is not in some way a matter of choice. Yhu absolutely cannot help being born a certain race, but people are naturally born heterosexual, other factors in their lives have a big influence on what way they go. Life itself can't be possible if everybody chose to be homosexual. There are so many people out there that choose to be gay just because its different. Science can't even prove that homosexuality is definitely in a person's genes.

      mike.boylen - 2012-08-13 14:50

      Do you seriously believe that people would choose to be gay when they face the kind of bigotry and hatred being spewed out by some of the people on here? Gay people are not being provocative. They are simply asking for the same rights as everyone else so that they can live their lives in peace. You would have to be a truly evil person to deny that to anyone. I hope all these god botherers remember that they to will have to face their creator one day, but in their smugness they think that they have all the answers and are perfect.

      mbossenger - 2012-08-13 15:10

      donnmakaveli - what a load of rubbish. Do those other animals who display homosexual behaviour also choose to do so?

  • Mbulelo Blue Koko - 2012-08-13 14:50

    It is sad that after Africa has fought so tediously against European Colonialism, we still have oppression of a people. If God REALLY hates gays, how is that in your place to decide what happens to gays? All you saying that gays should be killed are in a sense 'trying to play God'. Why not let God decide what he wants to happen to the gays 'when we all face him'? How is it fair that I am to be persecuted because of something that i don't have control over and that definitely has a biological cause??? its like the Jews in Nazi Germany. What I am thankful for is that South African government saw that the Human Right that its constitution holds so precious are upheld for ALL people in South Africa!

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 14:57

      Hear, hear. 150+ years ago these religious nutters were ranting on to protect slavery. Up till into the 1990's they ranted on against people with dark skins and used the bible to justify apartheid. They lost those battles. And since religion always attempts to separate the sheep form the rest of society, to make the sheep feel superior, they need bogeymen. Gays are in. When they eventually lose this battle they will come after the non-believers again.

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-13 16:31

      According to the bible why was soddom and gommorah burnt down to ashes because they sinned to God through hommosexual behaviours so there is your answer

  • jody.beggs - 2012-08-13 16:07

    I can't believe there are this many religious idjits out there. Do all xians feel the same about gays ? Did they get what they deserve in other words ... Farque ...

  • richard.zanner - 2012-08-13 16:12

    And soon SA and Zimbabwe will be joined at the hip as one country, one currency and 7 leaders (due to a lack of plausible voting systems) as one happy family and together they will fight the West and the Colonialists (unless when they need them for money off course). Together they will do trade. One plane to export the goods, 4 planes to send the money.

  • wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-13 16:23

    No hommo,God created Adam and Eve not Adam Adam and Steve so hommosexual is nothing but just evil works, people don't be decieved by these rights whatsoever these are just ways to drag you to hell read 1st corrithians from verse 5,

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 16:32

      Pathetic! Man there are some who identify themselves as Christian who demonstrate levels of depravity and hatred which I am sure their Jesus would never have countenanced. Incidentally, Jesus never said a single word condemning homosexuality. You have created a god in your own image and assigned your prejudice to that god, creating a god that shares your prejudice and who, then, sanctions and defends the unjustified harms that bigots like you would cause to "those who are different." You quite frankly disgust me.

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-13 16:42

      Zaatheist I don't like your comment sounds as if you are satanic or something man better change your behaviour

      mike.boylen - 2012-08-13 17:28

      Not the tired, old, pathetic Adam & Steve arguement again. I suppose in spite of all the evidence you believe that the world was created in 7 days and will end in the year 2000. As you're still living in the 19th century that won't bother you too much. And the other pathetic arguement has finally resurfaced: if you disagree with a xtian you must be a satanist. Why one would believe in satan if you don't believe in god is a mystery to me, but fashions (even in xtrianity) do keep coming back.

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 19:38

      wekunetsavamwe I am, so please you did not like my comment and you think I am Satanic as it says much more about you than it does of me. Do you also believe in gnomes, fairies and leprechauns? While not statistically significant, the most delusional religious people I've come across are also the worst cheats,liars and lazy and to top it off are simply dishonest people.

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-08-13 16:39

    I am shocked at the number to of hatefull comments here. I am not gay and I am a born again Christian who was taught to tollerant. When I was serving in the Rhodesian army I often heard Mugabe was gay. This wouldn't surprise me as I've often found people often take a stand against somthing to divert attenttion away from themselves. A word of caution to the haters: I've found in life that these things come back and bite you on the arse.One of your loved ones could turn to be or become gay / lesbo.

      riaan.mostert.58 - 2012-08-13 17:53

      Never a truer word spoken.

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 19:40

      Well said Grant. I was starting to despair at the disgusting level to which some who claim to be religious would stoop to demean fellow human beings. “Nothing optional—from homosexuality to adultery—is ever made punishable unless those who do the prohibiting (and exact the fierce punishments) have a repressed desire to participate. As Shakespeare put it in King Lear, the policeman who lashes the whore has a hot need to use her for the very offense for which he plies the lash.” -- Christopher Hitchens

  • kimsaiyanprincess.murison - 2012-08-13 16:45

    - 'Straight' couples do it the same way and do the same things too, so you arguement about 'disgusting' practises are irrelevant.

  • wdvilliers - 2012-08-13 17:27

    When are they arresting the goats...or is that ok?

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-08-13 17:42

    Gays are people just like us dey breath the very same air God has provided.Who are we to judge them..These are our brothers and sisters deserve to live happily..Live gays and lesbian just like that they dnt steal lyk u Zimbambweans who are here illegally

      edmorec - 2012-08-13 17:58

      i dnt thnk so thoz are half people dude

      maokeng.mankge - 2012-08-13 18:12

      Its not your call Fact is their are human being jst lyk u deserve to live happily.Who are you to judge them

  • colin.langley - 2012-08-13 18:14

    I am so mad my comment was not posted...who the hell is in charge!

      marius.j.rensburg.3 - 2012-08-14 07:09

      lol

  • nana.akua.12914 - 2012-08-13 18:36

    These people who call themselves "civilised", if its agreable to them it must go, are the source of pervasion on earth. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature (Rom 1:26).

      Robin - 2012-08-13 19:14

      now thats bush mentality..

      zaatheist - 2012-08-13 19:44

      Anther mentally deranged sicko believer that there is an invisible magic man in the sky who grants wishes.

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-08-14 07:02

    I am not anti gay, in-fact I don't much care what gets done to whom, I just wish the word GAY still meant debonair, gleeful, hilarious, happy and merry

  • Vickela Mumby - 2012-08-14 08:21

    Burn chichi mun!

  • kyle.buitendag - 2012-08-14 08:25

    Adam and Eve.............NOT Adam and Steve.......

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-14 08:42

    Oo no no! Third gender on this very same mama earth?

  • raps.magans - 2012-08-14 10:17

    i blame the westernisation of our culture for this conundrum of gays and lesbians....its un-african.nxa nxa

  • edward.chapman.10 - 2012-08-18 08:45

    I comment for the advice and the peace of the children.Donnot donnot grow or distribute pass on any kind of substances for out patient medical use on to the childrens behavior.It could cause serious little load mouth confusions and alert the interpol or city police authorities.Which can become a parents threat of irresponible explanation.Coming the next school following day for the school board teachers daily writen reports.All I am saying is.Mothers and Fathers.Be careful on another child welfare social service examination spy procedure.WHEN IGNORE YOUR INTELLIGENCE AND TURN YOUR HEAD THE OTHER WAY."BUT WHY"?"BECAUSE THATS HOW YOU GET STUNG BY THE SCHOOL BOARD OF EDUCATION PRINCIPALS AND SCHOOL DISTRICT DIRECTORS".

  • byron.jay.37 - 2012-08-22 08:15

    Headline in 2013 reads..."Zim backs gay marriage"

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