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SA failing to empower blacks, says Mugabe

2012-03-09 10:38

Cape Town - Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe has taken a swipe at the South African government for "failing to empower black nationals through land reform and indigenisation", Radio VOP reported on Friday.

Addressing Zimbabwean chiefs at a conference in Bulawayo, Mugabe said poverty was rampant among the black population in South Africa, "yet that country is reported rich".

"People of Soweto are still poor. We do not know when their lives will improve. Poverty in Soweto will never be alleviated through getting jobs. It will only be alleviated through land and empowerment.

"They [blacks] do not have land because their country’s Constitution did not give them the right to land like our constitution. We included the issue of land in our constitution in 1980."

Fresh elections

Turning to his country, Mugabe said Zimbabwe’s Global Political Agreement (GPA) signed in 2008 was never about writing a new constitution but about holding fresh elections without violence before 2011, Radio VOP reported on Friday.

According to the report, the ageing leader said his party was ready to pull out of the inclusive government and hold fresh elections using an old government charter.

"The GPA was never meant to be more than two years. The GPA was about ending violence and holding fresh elections without violence and not holding new elections with a new constitution.

"It was never about a new constitution. The main issue was about violence and fresh elections without that violence," Mugabe said.

This comes a few days after South African Foreign Affairs Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane insisted that Zimbabwe could only hold elections after the completion of the constitution- making process.

 

Comments
  • Mo - 2012-03-09 10:46

    And we can all see how well thats working out for Zim...

      Dirk - 2012-03-09 10:50

      Most in Soweto who are starving, are Zimbos who ran away from Bobs Utopia

      GeeWizz - 2012-03-09 10:50

      Our countries rand vs USD dollar is not a trillion times like his Zim dollar against USD. Tell this fart to worry about his country and leave our alone and while on that thought, he must take all his people back from our country that is why our people are living in poverty and have no land because his people are taking it away form our people.

      Jack - 2012-03-09 10:52

      When can we invade Zim and just make it part of SA, most of their people live here already.....

      Willie - 2012-03-09 10:55

      He failed to empower Zims for 22years,Zims are begging on each and every robot in this country.What is uncle Bob talking about Senile old man!!!

      Gustav - 2012-03-09 11:07

      lolol,look how "good" zimbabwe turned out, we will be sure to follow your advise clown... "elections without violence" (in zim) - another massive lol I'm sure a grade 5 student will run zim better than mugabe. I dont know about you guys, but this is a pretty damn funny article? Is this a joke? news24 u guys are gona make me fall off my chair

      Spyker - 2012-03-09 11:07

      SA "...failing to empower black nationals..." - well, neither does Zimbabwe... @GeeWizz.., The Z$ (Zim dollar) does not even exist anymore - it was abandoned as a currency (by the Zim Reserve Bank - okay, there is such a thing, you can get up from the floor laughing now) in April 2009. When the Z$ was introduced as a currency in 1980, to take over - on par with - the Rhodesian Dollar, it was considered to be among the highest valued currency units in the world. Under Zimbabwe's black government, by 2008, it had devalued to a point where there was a Z$100 trillion banknote, by December 2008 the annual inflation was estimated at 650 million googol percent (6.5 × 10^108 percent) - equivalent to a DAILY inflation rate of 96%. The world had NEVER seen anything like it before. Today Zim uses a plethora of foreign currencies - most pertinently the US$ - there is a God...

      Jim - 2012-03-09 11:12

      Talk about the "pot calling the kettle black" - and pardon the pun...

      Jack - 2012-03-09 11:13

      @Sam...what more do you people need? you have affirmative action, bee, government tenders ect.. Why don't you people start your own companies instead of taking what you haven't worked for? I would be embarressed if i was given all these advantages yet still fail to create anything.

      nkadimeng - 2012-03-09 11:19

      @Jack, and you are happy to keep what your grandfathers killed for

      Tanie - 2012-03-09 11:23

      Someone tell king mugabe to focus on his tribe.What does he know about empowerment of black people? Now I believe that malema and mugabe is father and son and like father like son.

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 11:27

      Sam, I'm sick of this crap. Explain yourself. Now. Explain how you think Zimbabwe is a success. And don't try the usual deflection crap. I want an answer and I want it now.

      Jack - 2012-03-09 11:28

      @nkadimeng....You are so hypocritical...your forefathers did exactly the same, the Zulu's killed Xhosa's over land and women. That's the way the world works...the strongest tribe gets the best land. That is something you cannot deny.

      Gustav - 2012-03-09 11:29

      you cant put some1 in a power position without the proper knowledge and education. most people are to stupid to realise that change cant happen overnight. start by getting proper educational programs/schools into the black communities with proper teachers/lecturers.

      Robert - 2012-03-09 11:33

      We still got trees in this country - People do not have to eat tree bark to stay alive, we still hav wild life - People dont have to hunt to get food. What do you eat mugabe, all your wealth in Malasia - How about you and your trusted generals plough back thos billions you stole. As a frequent traveler to you country for the last 20 years I saw the fall and the destruction of your policies. Go to rest now please so that your people can live.

      Janice - 2012-03-09 11:39

      Exactly, he must mind his own bloody business and carry on screwing up his own country!!!

      Daan - 2012-03-09 11:51

      Jack: Who the hell will "invade" Zim ? The invadors in our army can only "invade" the mess halls. That is if they don't strike because the food is bad.

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 11:56

      See? Once again, like clockwork, as soon as I ask for an explanation they either change the subject, or like Sam here, deletes his comment. They do not have an answer. They can't logically explain their lazy, selfish, destructive viewpoint of land reform. Because there is no explanation to be given.

      Spyker - 2012-03-09 12:11

      @nkadimeng.., Just as you are happy to keep what your grandfathers(sic) killed for...

      nsele2 - 2012-03-09 13:29

      @ Spyker: noone asked you to rescue Africans from how they used to live before. you give yourselves too much credit.

      Thabang - 2012-03-09 14:24

      you mean blacks should never have access to land because south africa will be like zimbabwe,thats being racist.

      James - 2012-03-09 14:36

      Zim unemployment 95% GDP $500 pp pa.{includes aid money}Source CIA Factbook. And with DNA within 3% of Ocean Ivertebrate Mugabe has a problem. Source any Bio Chemist with PHD in Nano Tech.

      Spyker - 2012-03-09 15:29

      @nsele2.., That is a patent lie my friend. The ANC went to Europe and begged them to put sanctions against the National Party government. The end of Apartheid was exclusively the consequence of the sanctions by the WEST. Almost every senior ANC leader with a decent qualification (incl Nelson Mandela), was a qualification handed to them by the West - kindly exclude the uber fake trash dished out by places like the University of KZN, etc. Like Thabo Mbeki lived in London for many years - if it were not for the West, the ANC would have disappeared off the face of the earth in the 1960's already. Africa will ALWAYS be colonised, if not by the West, then by the East. Let me assure you though - once colonised by the East, you will long back to the good old days under Apartheid...

      Deus - 2012-03-10 10:25

      Looks like BOB-by is trying to appease and win favor with the likes of Malema and other BEE cronies.

      Eugene - 2012-03-10 13:48

      It works for the cronies. And that's all that counts.

  • Den - 2012-03-09 10:47

    thats got to be the funniest thing ive heard all day, whats wrong with black leaders? old bobs people are starving.

      Poloyatonki - 2012-03-09 11:05

      Mugabe has a point, we must balance the scale once and for all, otherwise we will never move on.

      justin.pretorius - 2012-03-09 11:11

      @Poloyatonki The Afro-Nazi has reappeared ;)

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:12

      Stinkpony, you do not move on because you believe you still stuck..

      Hans - 2012-03-09 11:13

      @Poloyatonki - Typical of you, waiting for someone else to do something so that your life is improved. How about doing it yourself? Besides, what does SA have to do with moogarbage?

      Theo - 2012-03-09 11:19

      @Poloyatonki - All we can do is pray for you. Maybe when you are born again it will be with a brain

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 11:28

      Poloyatonki you too. Answers, now. Explain. How is Zimbabwe a success in your eyes? C'mon I want an answer.

      Ronald - 2012-03-09 11:36

      Too late, Poly, Bob has already nationalized and stolen the scales, too!

      Poloyatonki - 2012-03-09 11:54

      gbbfg - In Zim, atleast they have what belongs to them while they live in poverty. In SA live in poverty and we dont even have our land, we didnt have this problem before 1652.

      Elize - 2012-03-09 11:55

      Polony you will never move on, the more you get the more you want!!

      Daan - 2012-03-09 12:13

      Den. If any govt calls me a "previously dissadvantaged person" I will leave the country. Fact are: 1. They hate the whites, but loves what the whites have achieved. 2. They love the taxes we pay, but want more. So they steal from us. 3. They will only be happy the day all whites have left SA.

      Polotiek - 2012-03-09 13:03

      @Daan and @poloyatonki, Corruption existed even during the apartheid era. It was never exposed because the focus was on fighting Liberation Movements. The focus now is to fight corruption, that's why everyone talks about it. As a young democracy, South Africa is on the right track in fighting corruption. I agree with Robert Mugabe, our goverment is not doing enough in empowering blacks. Many institutions in the country are run by whites. They avoid being at the forefront, but they find a little corner where they can silently hijack any institution. Whites never believed a black man can do things right. Our leaders must open their eyes and ensure all loopholes are closed, then we shall defeat the apartheid system. We need economic freedom, we need land, we need mines, we need everything that was stolen from us. We want to be free like Holland. I'll blow my own trumpet from the mountain one day. Today's youth will change things around in the near future, Blacks will conquer the enemy in all aspects of the economy.

      Oistar - 2012-03-09 14:21

      Sometimes you black men should just keep quiet. Your twisted arguments and silly reasoning just confirms that you are what you don't want to hear - doff

      Lee - 2012-03-09 14:34

      Your free to move around any part of S.A. no one is denying you that. Your also free to buy any land you want. Stop being an idiot, it will NEVER be given to you. Even your idiotic hero J.M. will not give you a slice. My word some of you black folk are idiots, thank god some are educated. It's just a shame those in power like to keep you stupid.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-11 17:23

      Poloyatonki : Don't you think the land in South Africa should belong to South Africans? Do you know that guys like this mugabe fellow and his henchmen also have properties in S.A.? Don't you think they should give it back? Why are you so racist about the issue? Has the ANC taught you like this?

  • Wayne - 2012-03-09 10:47

    And this idiot has what opinion.....

  • halicon76 - 2012-03-09 10:48

    so now that rob has completely and utterly destroyed zimbabwe's economy... he now wants us to do the same?

      siphom7 - 2012-03-16 15:20

      NO he want to show us the way....LAND WE WANT AND LAND WE WILL GET

  • planetdonovan - 2012-03-09 10:49

    dear bob, your constitution, like your democracy, is a joke.

  • Sxorch - 2012-03-09 10:49

    What is Zim's interest rates? pfff

  • pdilapiso - 2012-03-09 10:49

    we Need President Mugabe to be a SA president for just a month!!!!!!!

      Ben - 2012-03-09 10:55

      No, ten minutes would be too long. We need a president with brains.

      devon.sanderson01 - 2012-03-09 10:55

      we don't need idiots like you in this country. go to Zim!

      Kraken - 2012-03-09 10:58

      Go back to zimbabwe you sheep

      Herman - 2012-03-09 10:58

      We actually need someone with brains you idiot!

      Anon - 2012-03-09 10:59

      pdilapiso - perhaps you should go live in Zim you idiot! There is nothing left for you to take and destroy in that country.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:17

      Pdilapiso, he won't be able to cart away enough in a month.

      Gustav - 2012-03-09 11:21

      south africa will crash and burn in a week, but obviously you dont care or i think your just to stupid to realise what the consequences will be...

      Ronald - 2012-03-09 11:41

      You are right pdilapiso, bob has refined the art of stealing and running a country into the ground that he will accomplish in 30 days what the ANC has done in 17 years. Bob has won the prize as Screw Up Of The Year so many times that he now owns the rights to it.

      Gustav - 2012-03-09 11:41

      your to stupid and dumb to take serious

      Felix - 2012-03-09 12:33

      Right after you head off back to the Congo, don't forget your AK.

      Anette - 2012-03-09 13:43

      Seeing that you claim on your facebook page you are a Self Employed Managing Director that studied at the University of life. The only conclusion I can draw is that you are an Idiot of note! Why don't you do everybody a fovour and go play on the motorway with on coming traffic.

      pdilapiso - 2012-03-09 14:39

      @ annet,flexi,agbbfg,juqui,gustav & the lot of you> you people dont respect my views & the native people of this country, let me just tell you a story> whites in Botswana respect the people of Botswana they even know how to speak setwana fluently,the same in Angola,Lesotho,malawi and many other African countries!is only you whites South Africans that you feel like the situation should be the other way around!jelle klein boerkies dink ons kaan nie jou taal praat nie maar jelle kaan nie onse taal praat! lo itira batho go se jalo!you see all these things that are happening in South Africa is all because of you! why do we have to be sorry for you? news2 4-whites can delete this one too!!i dont have a problem to live,work,eat or even marry a white all i ve an issue is that they MUST respect the native people of this land. we as African will continue to build our country with or without you,if you lack respect! a black person of this country had suffered a lot under a white rule not just 17 years but decades!we have humanity thats why we have settle to live with you!

      Geronimo - 2012-03-09 14:49

      @pdilapiso - first in, first out. After you and your Congolese brothers and sisters. YOU are a settler in this land. Hypocrite.

      betsy.compaan - 2012-03-09 16:10

      @pdilapiso, respect is something that is earned and it cannot be demanded by someone that doesn't have the capacity to give that same respect they expect to others. It is a two way street. You want people to bow down to you like a god and grovel at your feet, no wonder they aren’t giving you “respect”. You don’t even know what respect means dude

      lerumo.mkhonto - 2012-03-09 17:27

      If you can count please, count the thumbs-down you are getting. It might help you to realise that so many people are aware that when black people want to be payed for doing nothing, they invoke the race-card. This selfish mentality is killing everybody including yourself. The rands you still today will be as worth-less as the Zim dollar in a few years time. You will be going to Europe cap in hand pleading hunger.

      gjkoen - 2012-03-09 21:23

      We will all leave on one condition. We want everything that we have built up, and accomplished, to go with us. We will see how much you enjoy sunny south africa then. Back to the old days, before the settlers. Just imagine the possibilities.

      Winsome - 2012-03-10 10:20

      @pdilapiso - why? Please explain .....

  • Tammy - 2012-03-09 10:50

    Oh dear Lord!~ Is this thing for real? Crawl back in your hole and stay there you idiot!!!!

      alansmartSnr - 2012-03-10 23:47

      @ gbbig...you settlers from Holland!! you brought poverty,AIDS..ect. your claim shows your stupidity. Read a reputable science paper some time ago that research proved (via biotechnology) that aids originated in central Africa as a result of tribesman trying to mate with a wounded female chimpanzee about 40 years ago. I'll try and trace the relevant document and make it available on face book asap. Dont try and put it on the "whites" doorstep. Your whole comment screams out your ignorance.

  • Herman - 2012-03-09 10:52

    Why doe this idiot have anything to say regarding SA? He screwed up Rhodesia and now his methodology must be adhered to by SA. My opinion, die a quick death mugabe.

      siphom7 - 2012-03-16 15:26

      AND YOU GO BACK TO EUROPE...OH I FORGOT THEY DONT EVEN WANT YOU THERE....STATELESS WHITES

  • Louis - 2012-03-09 10:54

    Robert Mugabe is not in a position to give any country advice on how to run it. He haven't made a success of anything yet, oh wait he have, he made a success of screwing up a great country and made it basically worthless. In any case, I would rather be poor and stay in Soweto and have food to eat than staying in Zimbabwe where there is hardly any food or anything else for that matter. My advice to Robert Mugabe is to keep his mouth shut and to please not give any advice to anyone on planet earth.

      david.lebethe - 2012-03-09 11:02

      Do you know why is Zimbabwe poor today? It is because, the regime refused to accede to wishes of foreigners, majority of whom were whites and held dual citizenship.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:21

      David.lebethe, do you know why Zim is poor today, it's because of idiotic thinking and reasoning like yours. But of course you will blame the whites, what ever would you do without them?.

      Lanfear - 2012-03-09 11:39

      Oh bullshyte David! That is Bob's propaganda campaign talking. Just when will you stop blaming everything on the oh so "evil" West? If Zimbabweans took over the developed farms and kept on farming commercially and kept the economy running, they would still be a properous nation. But those that invaded farms didn't want land. If they did, why are so many farms not even lived on, never mind farmed? Stop blaming the rest of the world for today's problems. And btw, the Arab world in centuries past did more harm to Africa than the West ever did. But I guess that is oh so conviently forgotten today, neh.

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 12:30

      David: your comment really is final and absolute proof that you don't posess the ability to think on the same level as most human beings. Please just stop trying. Of all the absolute bollocks I've heard over the last while (and I've heard a LOT) your comment ranks right up there with the most deluded, brainless crap ever. What an absolute joke. It is genuinely beyond me that you can have this view. You've either been brainwashed with lies, or you are just THAT dumb.

      Eugene - 2012-03-10 13:51

      Excuse me? But Mugabe is still in charge of his country. And that's what his comrades in the ANC do admire. Yeah, and it won't help to dress up in a Black Sash to stop that. Or does it Mrs. Zille?

      siphom7 - 2012-03-16 15:28

      Have you been to Zim lately you punk...MY ADVICE TO YOU MOVE TO AUSTRALIA ..LAND WE WANT AND LAND WE WILL GET..

  • Carlton Bana - 2012-03-09 10:55

    It is now clear as day two evil forces are working together, Mugabe and Julius speek in the same forked tongue. They want to distroy SA. And it supprising how half of his people are begging and murdering people in this country, and he says SA has forsaken her people, what a hypocrit and a fool. Assissinate the fool hang him by his heels already.

  • Produktdeep - 2012-03-09 10:55

    We can deduce one thing from this...Pot is not good for an 88 year old.

  • Samuel - 2012-03-09 10:56

    When are we finally gonna be rid of this insect??

      Kerry - 2012-03-09 14:19

      more like parasite!

  • Dave - 2012-03-09 10:56

    This has to be the biggest A hole in Africa. His so called brain must be so infected with syphilis that he cannot see that the overwhelming majority of people in his country as starving after Bob and his cronies have stolen everything. May his life be short

      Trevor - 2012-03-09 15:33

      Dumb ass. he is 88. what short life are you referring to?

  • David - 2012-03-09 10:57

    Very rich Bob!

      Arthur - 2012-03-10 12:23

      bob is somehow right the whites leave like they are in heaven in Africa, the man has done somethings wrong but whites in africa think that there are the best humans

      Mikkel - 2012-03-10 21:20

      At retard above ^. "whites "LEAVE" like they are in heaven in Africa" - This and this "whites in africa think that there are the best humans".Wtf are you on about? You're an imbecile. Typical anc supporter(Narrow minded tunnel vision fools).

  • Leonard - 2012-03-09 10:59

    ..and all the indigenous people in Zimbabwe are now living in a land of milk and honey..... Actually you can look at the rest of Africa to see how that panned out for the indigenous folk. Really sad!

  • Senzo Mathebula - 2012-03-09 10:59

    Uncle Bob does have a point there. Only a few prominent South Africans have benefited from this so called Freedom. The rest are living in the same old terrible living conditions. As a black man I can't even feel free in my own country. I went to the beach the other day and you would swear I had a "dangerous criminal" sticker on my forehead.

      Produktdeep - 2012-03-09 11:04

      well u can always go live in Zimbabwe. U'll be free as a bird there. Must refrain from making jokes about the almighty Bob, will earn you a night in Prison.

      Senzo Mathebula - 2012-03-09 11:12

      Well I could come down to u level of thinking and suggest Holland to you

      Andre - 2012-03-09 11:27

      Senzo, why dont you ask your race, why the people see you as a criminal.

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-03-09 11:29

      Senzo u are an idiot. It is your own government that has forsaken. Not the white, not the indians, not the coloureds and not any other race. Look at your ANC government, look at how they are living. They dont care about u. They only want ur votes and then they forget about u. Its time u all catch a bloody wake up and start blaming ur own government. They are stealing all the money that is ment for developement and living the rich corrupt life. But u and the rest of the ANC followers are to bloody blind to see that. If you like Mugabe and the way he has run Zim into the ground well then please by all means go live there, go get your piece of land and go starve there. But please dont come running back and cry poverty.

      Theo - 2012-03-09 11:31

      Lol... We will pray for you too. MayGod have mercy on you

      Mark Allen - 2012-03-09 11:33

      Who is in charge Senzo??

      Ian - 2012-03-09 11:36

      I feel for you Senzo. Unfortunately we still live in a society where everything is about race, starting with the Government right down to the street corner, even employment forms race, race, race everywhere. The sooner we can all be South Africans and not white, black, coloured, pokkerdot what ever. It doesn't help matters when you have high powered people openly provoking others.

      Mark Allen - 2012-03-09 11:36

      I didn't know that all whites in SA came from Holland, and this type of thinking is an indication of how long the whites will be blamed for, even when not in control.. centuries. Absolutely no accountability-always someone else's fault..

      Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-09 11:41

      Well did you?

      Elize - 2012-03-09 12:05

      Not sure what beach you went to but we have a ball of a time with our fellow citizens coloured and black on the beach in Somerset West, I think you have a problem with yourself it has nothing to do with the people around you. And bye the way Holland is fantastic wish I had the money to go live there I would be thre in a instant!!

      desertratbkf - 2012-03-09 12:12

      Senzo. If you had one more brain cell you's bark dude! Every comment in this string tells you, what a chop you are! Blame your useless, thieving criminal government for the state of THIS nation! You idiots keep voting for the same vermin. Deal with it!

      Polotiek - 2012-03-09 12:28

      @darryl.mazel. Corruption existed even during the apartheid era. It was never exposed because the focus was on fighting the Liberation Movements. The focus now is to fight corruption, that's why everyone talks about it. As a young democracy, South Africa is on the right track in fighting corruption. I agree with Robert Mugabe, our goverment is not doing enough in empowering blacks. Many institutions in the country are run by whites. They avoid being at the forefront, but they find a little corner where they can silently hijack any institution. Whites never believed a black man can do things right. Our leaders must open their eyes and ensure all loopholes are closed, then we shall defeat the apartheid system. We need economic freedom, we need land, we need mines, we need everything that was stolen from us. We want to be free like Holland. I'll blow my own trumpet from the mountain one day. Today's youth will change things around in the near future, Blacks will conquer the enemy in all aspects of the economy.

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 12:36

      Senzo, since last year when I did some community work, I don't have much sympathy for these "old terrible living conditions" you speak of. We arrived to do a cleanup, and spent the morning picking up garbage the likes of which I'd never seen before. And we deposited this crap in bins, that were there already. While doing this, the locals looked at us like we were mad. One young boy even asked me what we were doing. I said, "we're cleaning up your neighbourhood!" He said, "why?" I arrived there in good spirits and left thinking why should I care about people who don't even care for themselves? You can not complain about terrible living conditions when the residents don't even bother to use bins. It is not diffucult to plant a tree or two, to put the garbage in the bins, to actually MAKE AN EFFORT YOURSELF rather than waiting for other people to come and do it. STOP BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE and GET ON WITH IT

      Daan - 2012-03-09 12:39

      Senzo :Uncle Bob does have a point there. Only a few prominent South Africans have benefited from this so called Freedom. True - So do something about it. Get rid of the cANCer

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 12:58

      "we want to be free like Holland" LOL And you think this is the way to go about it? Picture the most opposite thing possible to Holland. That's what SA will be if these "empowerment" plans are put into place. WAKE UP MORON. Grow some accountability.

      Tonde - 2012-03-10 21:39

      Senzo please tell them, I do like your way of thinking. White people think black dont think, and think we can not do any thing without them.

  • Kraken - 2012-03-09 11:00

    Ah, the wise man has spoken. Add this to his list of opinions that have contributed to society. Eventually that list will be sold as "The top 1000 things NOT to say/do when running a country"

      Pdevillet - 2012-03-09 21:28

      he is writing a book called "how to f..ck up a country for dummies",malema got a complementary copy

  • Sfiso - 2012-03-09 11:00

    Bob has a point the gap of development between townships and suburbs its still huge.....

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 11:31

      And your solution is to simply GIVE the suburbs away? How stupid do you need to be to not see that this can only end in disaster? Show me one place in the world where this strategy has worked. C'mon I'm waiting for an answer, a real one, to my question. Now.

      Theo - 2012-03-09 11:36

      If you stop waiting on Government or Malema to make it happen and start educating yourself and find a proper job then you will also one day landup living in a suburb.

      Mark - 2012-03-09 11:39

      and your point is?

      neville.mclean - 2012-03-09 11:43

      I agree Sfiso!!!!!! Not sure what the right way to go about creating equality is though?? What do you think?

      Winsome - 2012-03-10 10:32

      @Sfiso - OK, how would you fix it then? How would Mugabe go about it? I would really like to know as it seems he hasn't really done a very good job with his own country where people are starving and unemployment is rife. Please explain what you mean .......

  • Victor - 2012-03-09 11:00

    Mind your own damn business and fix your own coutry you usless Troll

  • rlong1952 - 2012-03-09 11:02

    And their blacks are rich? ha ha what a doorknob.

  • Mouldy - 2012-03-09 11:02

    Zim was once a rich, thriving exporter of among other things, food! Now it's a poverty stricken wasteland where people are scratching around for food. At least the people have land, let's not forget that. Pity you cannot eat land.

      Anthony - 2012-03-09 11:48

      mouldy--all the idiots here who are supportive of zim and mad bob have NEVER been to zim I have-- I go every month on business it is the saddest MOST BROKEN PLACE u have ever seen--- there is starvation poverty sickness and hopelessness--it is BROKEN and so very very sad --the people are desperate --and you cant even blame apartheid or the whites --I wonder who you can blame

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-03-09 12:04

      They're eating the bark of the trees to stay alive.

  • WimpieN - 2012-03-09 11:03

    Bob, you also failed to empower "blacks". In SA people who are willing to work and learn are empowered and have every opportunity to better themselves. We did at one stage tried to give some land away and we all know how well that turned out!

      Tonde - 2012-03-10 21:42

      Do say things you do not have fact, Wimpie you are a fool. we are empower here.

      henk63 - 2012-03-11 08:32

      Tonde, sorry but what facts are missing? We all know of the farms that lie unused and broken down. Here and in Zim. And "we are empower here" - WTF do you mean? Wimpie is definitly not the fool here.

  • Andre - 2012-03-09 11:03

    Stealing from whites to "empower" blacks is a falacy. It tarnishes their self-worth and inpress their feeling of inferiority. Any being can only feel self fulfilled once he/she has achieved a goal on their own. Mugabe is a thief, living off his own people and then rely on his foe, America to feed them. Does this sound like empowerment?

      Theo - 2012-03-09 11:42

      And that holds true for the rest of Africa..

      Tonde - 2012-03-10 21:43

      Its not stealing getting what is yours

  • Lynda - 2012-03-09 11:03

    ha ha ha ha yes Bob and there's no poverty in Zimbabwe, silly old codger

  • mario.b.ndlovu - 2012-03-09 11:04

    he is saying something that he doesnt know which black person is living better one in soweto and the one in mbare harare the one in harare has got know job,no food,no eletricity,no clinics,poor roads absolute nothing and the one in soweto i have seen some driving big cars so who living a better life good jobs accountant,laywers and cost of living is better you got chance to survivor in Soweto than in Mbare

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:27

      Mario etc. Uncle Bob do not want to know such facts, he may have to admit that his countrymen are better off in Soweto than at home in Zim.

      Theo - 2012-03-09 11:43

      Amen !!

  • Ryan - 2012-03-09 11:04

    ROTFFL - Uncle Bob is smoking some good shiit. I want some.

  • Sinudeity - 2012-03-09 11:05

    95% unemployment in Zim. Over a million Zimbabweans living in South Africa. STFU bob.

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-09 11:06

    Mr Mugabe pls know this is suid africa majority of black and white want to live together in peace and harmony through this we see our country in G20 ,producing best doctors,we are respected around world. Leave our country alone

      Theo - 2012-03-09 11:45

      Amen !! We need more of your caliber in this country

      Nigel - 2012-03-09 13:04

      100% Eric, grandpa Mugabe must not come with his madman tendencies here

      Mikkel - 2012-03-10 21:22

      Eric I salute you.

  • Sinudeity - 2012-03-09 11:06

    And whats the point in having elections, in that even if you lose, you refuse to step down? Oh, you are a 'democracy'. Wink.

  • Barry Visser - 2012-03-09 11:07

    And Zimbabwe is doing great, hey mugabs?!idiot!

  • Johan - 2012-03-09 11:08

    Yes Bob, and why do 1/3 of your population reside here? Proof is in the pudding that you are wrong.

  • rynoj1 - 2012-03-09 11:08

    Mugabe Mugabe Mugabe,he must rather keep he's mouth shut!!!!!Seems to me he forgot why he's country is in the position that that they are!!!You can not give land to who ever you want to, you need to give it to people who can use and manage it in such a way that the whole country can benefit from it, if land is in the wrong people's hands then the whole country will have problems!!!!!

      Ephraim - 2012-03-09 14:49

      agree, not everyone . that is why jambanja does not work. plan first and implement. commercial, peasantry etc not just grab land and give to who ever. Bob is an idiot, we are staying like mice in SA coz of his madness. some of us very educated but no jobs in Zim so had to flock to SA.So please Bob dont rub it in. We have had enough of you senile old man. We must free Zim from ZANU PF AND BOB.tHE CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST, COME NEXT ELECTION OF COURSE FREE AND FAIR, HE WILL BE HISTORY. HE ACTS LIKE A CORNERED CAT ITS DANGEROUS. YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED YOU FOOL, CHEATER, RUTHLESS OLD MAN. NOW HALF OF YOUR PEOPLE ARE STAYING IN SA, YOU ARE NOT USING YOUR OWN CURRENCY AND YOU CLAIM YOU ARE SOVEREIGN, WHAT A JOKE.

  • Patrick Craw - 2012-03-09 11:09

    empower more whites,Indians,and colourds in your land,plonka. . .

  • mark.davy2 - 2012-03-09 11:10

    shut up....!

  • Shirley - 2012-03-09 11:11

    When the people of you country are "living" a life,then you may cinsider speaking. Until such time just shut up and hopefully the grim reaper visits soon!

  • bradleybrits - 2012-03-09 11:11

    Wow Bob Zimbabweans are SO empowered under your approach that they were left with a choice to become refugees in South Africa or starve in Zimbabwe...

  • Rob - 2012-03-09 11:12

    What is economic freedom? The more I hear this term used the more it sounds like demanding hand-outs. Surely economic freedom is about being able to compete fairly in the job market? SA seems to have pushed that one way over the other side with BEE etc, so much so that it is almost possible to argue that many whites do not have economic freedom. Can someone with both understanding and insight explain this term.

      Stephan - 2012-03-09 15:26

      Economic freedom is defined as a person having the freedom to attain the highest education he or she possibly can within their intellectual capability and then being able to fairly compete in the job market for fair remuneration without bias or prejudice due to race, gender, religion, etc. Also keep in mind that the law you know as Black Economic Empowerment is incorrectly named as ownership of land or assets does not imply empowerment. Empowerment comes from having the skill and knowledge needed to earn, expand and protect earned wealth. That being said, the law should actually be called black economic enrichment.

      Eleanore Hill - 2012-03-09 15:48

      I googled it on Wikipedia a while back and it seems to be a term used in economics and policy debates. There seem to be a variety of definitions and not one that is universally accepted ranging from (a summary):\r\n1. Liberal view-which focuses on free markets and right to own private property, prices not being goverment controlled but determined by supply and demand etc.\r\n2.Distributive justice view- focussing on how goods are distributed, available quantities of goods and allocation of goods,\r\n3.Free market view - not having regulatory prices in markets, having the ability to trade and consume goods and services acquired without the interference of theft, fraud or corruption. With a focus on less corruption and less political violence.\r\n\r\nThat's a brief summary of the concept, but it gives you an idea. It seems a lot of people are requesting \economic freedom\ under the false believe that it means something else completely. Ah... the importance of educating yourself and not just blindly following someone else.

  • HiJack - 2012-03-09 11:13

    Yep, and Zimbo is a great example of success of how to empower blacks. They've been so empowered they moved to SA. There are probably 14 people left in Zim.

  • Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:14

    Well that's telling us. He sure knows where his Zimbabwians are living here.

      Spiwe - 2012-03-09 12:09

      there are also very educated zim professionals who were invited by s.a govt.to come and alleviate special skills shortages here.we do not stay in soweto but we afford theyour plush surburbs too.

  • nicosmit - 2012-03-09 11:15

    is he feeling sorry for his own people who left zim now living in soweto and wants SA to look after them?

  • Vegi - 2012-03-09 11:15

    Until the stolen land is restored to its rightful owners, black people will remain poor. It seems News24 supports the theft of our land because all comments calling for the restoration of our land are deleted.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-09 11:27

      well isnt it the biggest racist on this forum. how you been vegi its been awhile. until black people start working for what they want they will remain poor!

      Lanfear - 2012-03-09 11:29

      Yes Vegi, restore the land. And then what? Will you farm productively and commercially so that those who own land can feed this country's population? I don't give a rat's ass if every farm in this country is owned by our black African population, as long as you can feed this country so that we don't have to import so much food, which causes the ridiculous prices for even basic foodstuffs. Subsistance farming cannot feed the nation. The moment there is a flood or drought, the subsistence farmer starves. Subsistence farming only provides for a small group of people, what about the millions of people living in cities for example?

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:32

      Vegi, you can't count. Our land, don't make me laugh. Somehow I don't see you up and working before the sun rise seven days a week. I mean when will you find the time to write stupid things to News 24?.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:33

      Lanfear, the woman will have to do the farming, the men will debate.

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 11:43

      IT IS NOT YOUR LAND

      Vegi - 2012-03-09 11:45

      Jaquidiot You must peruse comments and see if I comment here everyday. For the most part I am busy repairing the economy which your evil father destroyed. I only comment here when I am off work, weekends and after hours. Anyway I don't blame you, I blame the poisonous western diet for your stupidity.

      colin.langley - 2012-03-09 11:54

      JESUS...DOES VEGI ACTUALLY HAVE A VEGI FOR A BRAIN?..never heard such nonsense coming out of one poepal all my life!

      Vegi - 2012-03-09 11:59

      Another thing Jacqui, Mugabe is our hero, he will remain so even in death. We have no option but to heed his word. No other current African polical leader has the same qualities. It is a rare combination of heroic vigour and intellectual prowess.

      Vegi - 2012-03-09 12:14

      lanfeur Subsistence farming my foot. Before our farming was rudely interrupted by your ancestors, we were the wealthiest pastoralists in the world. It is reported that my great great great grandfather who visited the earth in the 1830's had more than 5000 head of cattle to his name, not to mention small stock.

      Vegi - 2012-03-09 12:36

      Trevor I salute your heroic and visionary leaders.

      Nigel - 2012-03-09 13:08

      @ Trevor, keep going, maybe by the year 3000 the people of Zimbabwe will not be starving, & your destroyed country will no longer be a net importer of food, until then , SHUT UP!!!!!

      Lanfear - 2012-03-09 13:56

      @ Vegi - ag nonsense man! What, was your 1830s great grandfather a chieftain perhaps? Even if not, did he provide for millions of people in towns and cities? No, I didn't think so. He counted his wealth in the cattle he had, not by selling or butchering the cattle. The Africans were by no means the "richest pastorlists in the world". Btw, a pastoral lifestyle IS subsistence farming. Perhaps you should learn a bit of history, neh. But whatever, you and Trevor live in your little fantasy. Just answer me this Vegi, why then have more than 90% of the farms that were redistributed after 1994 gone to waste, laying fallow, nothing being farmed not even susbsistence? Why aren't those people farming? @ Trevor, you are one a million then, because it is FACT that most of those repossessed farms are laying fallow.

      gbbfg - 2012-03-09 14:28

      Lanfear: don't bother. They don't answer questions they can't answer. They just change the topic, usually by fabricating some racist crap about us. I've now spent several days asking for answers to my questions in these comments and I have not had ONE. They can't explain themselves. They're just walking blindly over the cliff.

      Burton - 2012-03-09 16:28

      @ Vegi and Trevor. Guys your comments are all racist. You speak of things you don't know. When our forefathers set sail and got to the Cape of Good Hope, they found nothing. No sewers, no cities, no power grid, no business, no mines, no work force, no medical facilities, no technological advancements. I can go on. Truth is if you really really want to go back to a black Africa, the following will also have to leave, sewer systems, clothes, cars, power grids, food markets, mining equipment, water systems, basically everything. Because all your forefathers did was breed, smoke and nothing. Eish you may enjoy that!

  • kistien - 2012-03-09 11:16

    This man has not only lost his marbles, he has never had any. Does he honestly think that his country has done it right? That they are prosperous? He is an idiot, a fantatical, brilliant idiot!

  • david.lebethe - 2012-03-09 11:17

    Mugabe is absolutely right. Kempton Park's talks-about-talks was our downfall. All the gains we made through waging war against a white racist government, were compromised at Kempton Park. As all struggles for liberations are waged around the land, ours was deluded by accepting arrangements in Kempton Park. It is here, where sunset clause was adopted and it was a beginning of our people's woes in this country. Thanx to Mugabe for reminding us that ours is afterall not freedom but a sell-out package by those who participated in talks-about-talks.

      Lanfear - 2012-03-09 11:26

      Ok David, then go the route of Bob and Zimbabwe, and see where you end up. Over 3 million Zimbabweans fled to South Africa to get work and make a living, I know some of them personally. Of those that stayed, most are too poor to have a pot to p*ss in, they hardly have food, they frequently have disease outbreaks, there is no economic development and blood diamonds are regularly mined and sold. Most are poor, except of course for Bob and his cronies. But I guess that is truly what you want, a return to rural living, subsistence farming [which not only causes famine the moment there is a drought or flood, but it also cannot feed the population of this country], no development at all, and the "king" takes it all. The ANC government could easily have empowered the black population and they could have made sure that the land reform is on track [which its not]. If they only stopped stuffing their pockets [and their mouths] and actually worked for the people, they could have made wide in-roads to correct the injustices of the past. Move to Zim David, if you think you will survive there.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:35

      David.lebethe, wage war?. You?.

      Vegi - 2012-03-09 12:25

      Jacqui We are not interested in your surburban homes, we want farming land for our herds to roam freely. We also want to grow food to fill the suburban stomachs. In fact, land must be readily available so that those who want to farm can do so without unnecessary hurdles.

      davieoosie - 2012-03-09 12:35

      Why then work for a christian institution. A white faith, we brought christianity to this country. What is BEE and affirmative action then, isn't that correcting the past? Why not use this to uplift yourselves? I'll tell you, you are to lazy and stupid to any thing for yourself. You want what is not yours without working for it. You just hate the whites for what happened in the past. It's not my fault I was born here and my dad and his dad and so forth.. I owe you nothing. I also have no land, but you don't hear me complaining about it all day. You are too narrow minded to get anywhere in life. Start doing something for yourself. You and Vegi and a like.

      Lanfear - 2012-03-09 13:59

      @ davieoosie - a "white" faith? The first Europeans brought christianity true, yet it is originally a Jewish faith. But anyway. @ Vegi - if you do want to farm in a commercial manner that will provide food for all people in this country, go right ahead and do so then. Don't take over developed farms that are highly productive, and then let it go to waste. If you do take over such farms, the FARM ffs! And btw, what about young white people, lets say the post-1994 youths, who also want to farm? Can they also get farms?

  • Paul-Louis - 2012-03-09 11:17

    Mugabe doesn't have the right to comment on our country. He drove Zim into the ground.

  • Robbie - 2012-03-09 11:17

    Spoken like a true African "dic"tactor. What a moron!

  • Jacques - 2012-03-09 11:20

    but SA must give them money!?

  • Gavin - 2012-03-09 11:21

    Rob Mugabe, before Mugabe robs you. Only someone f'ed in the head will look at Zimbabwe today and label it as an outright success in terms of giving back to the masses. Mugarbage has raped his country almost to death. He and his elite circle of bum chums have gutted Zimbabwe, to the extent that they can't even use their own currency. The only people he inspires are the those that are too lazy to get a job and add value to their country and its economy. Zuma has been to Zim before, with no result, you can't change the mind of someone whose mind has rotted away. His idea of 'empowering' the people is to beat them to death, to starve them into submission. To plunder the countries bank accounts and live the high life with his wife Disgrace. The day he dies, I will celebrate and that day will be my own personal public holiday until I in turn exit stage left.

  • Gert - 2012-03-09 11:22

    mugabe failed in everything-he even fails to see that he failed-shame-and he failed his own people-shame-!

  • boownz - 2012-03-09 11:24

    eh, what the efff is wrong with this guy???!