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Torture probe: ANC 'snubs' Mugabe

2012-06-09 22:18

Cape Town – Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe’s call for the African National Congress to ignore a recent ruling by the Pretoria High Court that South Africa must probe Zimbabwean officials over allegations of torture has been dismissed by the ANC.

A Zimbabwean newspaper, NewsDay, reported on Saturday that ANC Secretary General Gwede Mantashe said his party will respect the rule of law.

“The ANC does not ignore the rule of law, so we respect the ruling made in the High Court,” he said.

Mugabe, speaking at a convention of southern African liberation movements in Harare, called the probe ordered by the Pretoria High Court a "racist assault" by embittered Zimbabwean and South African whites.

In May, Judge Hans Fabricius ordered SA prosecutors to investigate alleged human rights abuses and torture in Zimbabwe in a case filed by a human rights group and Zimbabwean exiles.

Mugabe urged South African leaders to "apply every means at their disposal" to prevent the case souring relations between the two countries that fought a common struggle to end white rule.

He said whites in southern Africa, including white Judge Fabricius, were trying to makes excuses for their defeat by the forces of African liberation.

He called the judge "a boer", and said Fabricius has no jurisdiction in Zimbabwe and does not understand the way international law works.

"That judgment by that boer... constitutes a direct assault on our sovereignty by shameless forces afflicted by racist nostalgia," Mugabe told a group of leaders from former regional liberation movements.

Comments
  • YrHonour - 2012-06-09 22:29

    Nice Gwede!

      njdejager - 2012-06-09 22:34

      Indeed but what Gwede says and what Gwede does is two different things unfortunately.

      willium.moyo - 2012-06-09 22:58

      I'm from Zimbabwe but what the old man is saying is a recipe for disaster. The partisan discharge of justice usually creates anarchy and lawlessness. we Africans should get rid of that old mentality of seeing white people as enemies. We are all citizens of this great continent after all. That is why Africa is not developing as it should, because of such people.

      willium.moyo - 2012-06-09 22:58

      I'm from Zimbabwe but what the old man is saying is a recipe for disaster. The partisan discharge of justice usually creates anarchy and lawlessness. we Africans should get rid of that old mentality of seeing white people as enemies. We are all citizens of this great continent after all. That is why Africa is not developing as it should, because of such people.

      Smell - 2012-06-10 00:14

      Agreed. Kudos to the ANC - this is the way forward for Africa.

      sally.lewitt - 2012-06-10 00:56

      @willium.moyo.. Well said with great intelligence! Thank you! We are all African irrespective of colour. The majority of us WANT peace and it IS possible to live side my side in harmony.. It can be achieved but MINUS the damaging mentality of the RMs of this great continent!

      Vic - 2012-06-10 08:59

      Willium, it's heartening to know that there are still some intellegent citizens like yourself, but unfortunately it's the racists in charge, who cause(d) all the hatred. I left Zim in 1980 when the dictator was given the country on a plate, knowing that it was on the way to self-destruction and he hated whites.

      Polotic - 2012-06-10 09:31

      @Charles-Bronson - Your comments are base and entirely uncalled for!

      Rudi - 2012-06-10 15:08

      Please, Bob. Why can't you just die? Already the ANCYL is speaking the same crap as you. Are we not headed for the same tragedy as this country?

      Mark - 2012-06-10 17:47

      Like the Nats before them, sticking it to the Rhodesian Front for good public relations with the front line states, the ANC will slap down Mugabe in the end to show what lovers of peace and democracy they are. Ha! Southern Africans never learn from, and are doomed to repeat, their history.

      Oom - 2012-06-18 16:11

      http://www.radiovop.com/index.php/national-news/9127-evicted-farmers-supplying-bulk-of-imported-maize.html Bulawayo, June 11, 2012- The bulk of imported maize being supplied to hungry Zimbabweans is coming from former white commercial farmers evicted during the 2000 chaotic land invasions and now farming in Zambia. Recipients of the government's grain loan scheme in Matabeleland were last week shocked to discover that the names on the stickers on the grain bags were of former white farmers.

  • tobydt - 2012-06-09 22:33

    Good move ANC. I'd also like to point you to the papers on the outcome of the last elections in Zim. Those papers have been buried and hidden from the public.

      Raymond - 2012-06-11 08:07

      Check out mad bob's blue eyes. What the hell?

  • Jan - 2012-06-09 22:36

    Ok, now act on it.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-10 00:50

      That's right Jan, There is a gap here , for our government to show real leadership when it comes to it's Africa foreign policy. Thabo Mbeki is the main cause, that mugabe is still in power today, with his ludicrous "quite diplomacy" Jacop Zuma could start to make a difference here, by openly discrediting this criminal thug. But if JZ is forced out next year, we will have a government lead by Tokyo Sexwale, and members of his cabinet, will without any doubt, include Julius Malema and Winnie Mandela. It is highly unlikely that there than will be any move to oust mugabe. One must remember that a previous President of Malawi, Hastings Banda, became 100 years old, and at 96 was still President of this country. That could mean, without any outside intervention, Zimbabweans could still suffer for the next ten years !!!!!

      Johan - 2012-06-10 07:55

      @Anthony, Shoe...that's not really good news is it...what are these guys consuming? Do they have fruit from the tree of life?

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-10 08:16

      Johan, On a lighter note, I don't know what they consume. Let's face it, mugabe is unbelievable fit for 86 !! I thought it might have to do , that he is married to a pretty and young lady..................!! But, Hastings Banda, although straight, never married......and there is not much known about girl friends. So, who knows, but if you ever find out, remember to tell me, PLEASE !!

  • Ivan Overton - 2012-06-09 22:40

    Good decision,

  • Philip Buys - 2012-06-09 22:43

    Mugabe is a sick old man, plaque with hatred. His days, are growing less and less. Soon his country will be in new hands, and he can do nothing about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 10:35

      No kidding but he seems to have a knack for hanging on. There is no 88 year old whose future is longer than their history, but look at the damage done in the last 20 years.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-09 22:50

    Fortunately Mugabe does not have long to live. He needs to suffer a painful old age. No one must think of killing him. He deserves a slow painful death for his crimes against humanity.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-06-09 23:51

      Stewart, I cannot understand how he has been permitted to get away with his crimes. His own people are starving, cannot get work, have no access to medical services. Do the super powers not care?

      thozi - 2012-06-10 00:17

      @Steward Croucamp I really wish he'd been "put down" some thirty years or so ago. Lots of lives of his own people would have been saved. I have more respect for a hyena than that old ogre.

      sally.lewitt - 2012-06-10 00:45

      Stewart, what happens if he lives to be a 100? What he has done to destroy Zim, rape the mineral wealth which most of the proceeds stashed all over the world. The people of Zim are starving, child labour exploited, thousands upon thousands murdered, you name it and everyone stands back..? This is disgusting to say the least. I just don't get it that he's gotten away with it for so long. He is pure evil or plain mentally disturbed.. Yet the super powers stand back.. Why? There must be a reason..

      Oom - 2012-06-18 16:02

      Bless... Why is it so difficult to understand..?? Its the very same here in SA. The people have no homes, no jobs, no schools, no nothing, and yet they STILL vote for the ANC....it's African loyalty and fear. Thats how it works here, thats how they roll....

  • Joseph - 2012-06-09 22:50

    For how long will Mugabe show disrespect to the people of Zimbabwe and the International community.He must go in peace and let the people determine their future for he has spent his life fighting.Nobody will remember the man who killed 50 000 Zimbabweans with the help of the North Koreans.Such a man must face the ICC.

      Jean-Marc - 2012-06-09 23:23

      ICC is a f&%$ing joke. George Tailor who cut off arms and legs of his enemies, mass rapes etc got 20 odd years in a comfortable private prison where he enjoys television, 3 meals a day. In my opinion, he mugabe should be shot dead.

      Ron - 2012-06-10 09:07

      Who is George Tailor?

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 10:36

      Charles Taylor, a slip given up by those who listen when it suits them and do not read for themselves.

  • Alison Ling - 2012-06-09 22:54

    He really believes what he says, can he not see its actually people of he's own race that are fleeing Zim racist ass!!

  • tebogo.maja.77 - 2012-06-09 23:02

    Mugabe must think the ANC are his lackey's. I hope the ANC standby this decision. I see this as a step in the right direction.

  • John - 2012-06-09 23:18

    Who here can pass me my rifle? PLEASE!

      Oom - 2012-06-18 16:04

      And a banana...

  • Bob - 2012-06-09 23:21

    Cool beans - suffer iron tit Robert Mugabe!

  • magomarele - 2012-06-09 23:31

    stupid dictator indeed. He's fearing that one day his sins will catch up with him.

      sally.lewitt - 2012-06-10 00:16

      Unfortunately RM thinks he's above the law.. He believes he has done no wrong in his fantasy world while the people of Zim are suffering great injustices!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-10 01:20

      Sipho- aka- thatsickbrotherfullofhatredfromthestates. Keep your sick disturbed HATRED on your side of the Atlantic. You know NOTHING about Africa, YOU are its enemy. Africa despices you. Keep your ROT in New York !!!!

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 11:38

      Sipho you biased dimwit, do you know that HF Verwoerd was educated at Milton High School in Bulawayo Zimbabwe, where he was head boy. Mugabe is not the only racist fanatic produced by that poor benighted country. How do I know, because I sat in assemblies at Milton High School reading the honours boards. The Rothschild family (it is not one person but generations within one family covering several nationalities) , have had little or nothing to do with South Africa. Certainly I am not aware that any of the Rothschild family have held South African citizenship. They are however the family that founded one of the great banks in the world starting in the late 17th century. A bit confused are you? Why you eklevat Athol Trollip into such august company one cant say, he is a secondary leader in a nonracial politial party in South Africa and fought against apartheid unlike your good self. The Oppenheimer(Ernest, harry and Nicky) family after all were at least responsible for the development of some major South African mines and industries as well as the Zambian copperbelt. This actually means they created hundreds of thousands of jobs whilst making themselves wealthy. News flash it is what entrepreneurs do. Read up on Elon Musk, the only problem is that having left South Africa he is creating jobs in the US.

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-06-09 23:46

    I need to understand something: why has Mugabe not been charged for his many acts of human rights violations? He enjoys a lavish lifestyle at the expense of his people and uses foreign hospitals and universities because his own country can no longer offer services. He has run the economy into the ground. How is it that the international community allows this to continue? It is blatant misuse of public funds. Surely there are rules that apply to those who govern countries?

      anthony.hawke.7 - 2012-06-10 02:42

      It seems the west steps in only when their own interests are threatened. Oil is å major issue. If zimbabwe was oil rich Mugabe would be in the hague. @ sipho. Hello again my friend. Mugabe is old and soon to die. He will answer for his wickedness as we all do, believe me. But not in this world...

      Bless Boswell - 2012-06-10 11:23

      Sipho, you're wandering off the point. I am asking a direct question about Mugabe's human rights violations. If I had wanted to discuss apartheid, I would have made that very clear. Do not let your hatred of all whites cloud your reason. Many white people did not agree with apartheid, and many were not even born when it was being practiced. You cannot hate all whites because of racist practices of the ruling government. It's like white people hating all blacks because a select few are murdering farmers, hijacking cars and invading homes.

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 11:53

      Bless that is very good question? I think the answer is that the international community do not care enough to take real action. Sipho the answer lies not in ranting about apartheid and De Klerk. The late Samora Machel was reputed to have told Mugabe at independence to do what ever he could to hang on to his white citizens as they were the key to economic development, hence a growing tax base and a happy populace. He is said to have pointed out that Mozambique's problems stemmed from the fact that the Poruguese settlers left en masse. Mugabe it appears is a poor listener, or perhaps I forgot that he knows everything, now look where Zimbabwe is.

  • anthony.hawke.7 - 2012-06-10 01:19

    If there has been no torture and maltreatment of Zimbabwean citizens why is Mugabe so scared of the courts? What is he so scared of?

      anthony.hawke.7 - 2012-06-10 01:45

      Ah but sipho my friend. It is not about jurisdiction. In that you are quite right. It is about exposing what these people have been subjected too. That is all. We cannot decide over Zimbabwe. That is å job for zimbabwians. But we can tell the world what is happening there. True or not true?

      anthony.hawke.7 - 2012-06-10 01:49

      Ah but sipho my friend. It is not about jurisdiction. In that you are quite right. It is about exposing what these people have been subjected too. That is all. We cannot decide over Zimbabwe. That is å job for zimbabwians. But we can tell the world what is happening there. True or not true?

      anthony.hawke.7 - 2012-06-10 02:13

      I will pray for you every day sipho :)))

      Craig - 2012-06-10 07:46

      But Sipho lives in SA rather in the paradise of Zimbabwe. Why is that I wonder. Perhaps he is just employed by Mugabe to spout his nonsense here

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 12:01

      Good question Anthony! Sipho you dimwit South Africa is a signatory to the Rome Agreement stting up the ICC. We therefor have a legally binding contractual liability to investigate crimes against humanity wherever they occur. It was not the Government of De Klerk and the NP that signed this agreement but the ANC Government under Nelson Mandela. So yes South Africa, as set out in Justice Fabricius judgement, has an obligation to investigate allegations of torture against specific Zimbabweans. It is the law. The ANC are appealing the decision and Gwede Mantashe is simply hoping that the Appelate Court will uphold the appeal, and as a Constitutional Democracy and not a gangster state like Zimbabwe he awaits the courts decision.

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 12:14

      Sipho, never say never. I was born in Bulawayo as was my Mother. I do not qualify for a British passport so why was I denied the renewal of my Zimbabwean passport (unless I paid a US $5000 bribe) ulnless it was unbridled racism. Britain only agreed to finance the purchase land on a willing buyer willing seller basis for distribution to landless poor black Zimbabweans. What Balir objected to was that Britain was expected to finance the purchase of land that was being used to reward the Zanu PF faithful, so he stopped doing it. Mugabe did what he did because his Kleptocratic Government relied on patronage to exist. Blair did not renege on anything he simply wanted it done in accordance with the Lancaster House Agreement. It appears you have not read what was said at that time even Mugabe at that time cricised Blair for telling him that it was wrong to reward his political cronies, family and friends. Craig you have a point, but I will arrange for Sipho to spend some time in Bulawayo with my friend Feluna Ndlovu and then with my Sister, if he is interested.

  • mpho.pink1 - 2012-06-10 01:42

    Wow I'm really impressed with the anc, Mugabe is just sick, when will he stop playing the racist card its getting very old and annoying.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-10 06:55

      ""please tell me that you and your family are farmers and have little kids? lekka slaap"" This Sipho, aka "thatbrotherfromthestates" is a SICK AND DISTURBED SCUMBAG. He lives in New York, and has a HATRED for Whites beyond believe. His insults to Whites, and many Blacks , are disgraceful. In the last few years, the editors of News24 , have kicked this rubbish an number of times, from these sites, but he keeps coming back under different names. Most readers and the ones who comment on these sites don't mind different opinions, but this guy comments are totaly outrageous, as a matter of fact, here, and in most countries in the world, they are ILLEGAL, as they do nothing than promote RACIAL HATRED AND VIOLENCE. NEWS24, PLEASE, AGAIN, GET RID OF THIS RUBBISH !!! THIS GUY IS "SICK IN HIS HEAD"

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-10 06:59

      The best way to get rid of this Sipho dirt, ,aka "thatbrotherfromthestates" is to report him to the American Embassy. In the USA it is illegal to promote racial hatred and violence. They will know how to handle this thug !

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-10 07:19

      EDITOR, At the time you introduced , that one could only comment on these sites, via FB, you claimed that this would reduce comments with hatred and racims, and would icrease accounatability. What a load of rubbish !!!! There are few sites in the world , with such a high level of RACISM, HATRED and promoting of VIOLENCE as on your sites. Many comments are actually unlawful, and I accuse you of deliberately promoting HATRED, RACISM and VIOLENCE, for the sake of increasing your readerships. This FB access has become a circus, and an ugly one ! The BS on these FB Pages is mindbogging. Whites pretend to be Blacks , and as soon as one of these makes a comment, one falls over one another, to praise this "Black person" ( there is a good example at the beginning of the comments of this article !!! ) EDITOR; Start showing some resposibilty, even if it costs you a few readers !!!!

      sipho.nkruma - 2012-06-10 23:15

      The best way to get rid of this Anthony dirt, ,aka "21stcenturyafrican" is to report him to the South African embassy. In the RSA it is illegal to promote racial hatred and violence. They will know how to handle this thug !

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-11 07:10

      Final comment from me, re this Sipho aka "thatbrotherfromthestates" Must admit, it is pretty scary to have a psychopath on these News24 sites !!!

  • Jbyej Junaid Itaintaday - 2012-06-10 02:03

    tired of this black & white nonsense! we all r human beings! 2 b a racist is not a child of God

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 12:18

      What about us atheists? We dont belive we are the children of god, do we have to be racist or can we elect to be non-racist? I apologise if this offends you it is not my intent but rather to point out as an atheist I chose to be non-racist.

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-10 02:16

    I agree with the ruling party-ANC.We have a responsibility to respect our courts.The ANC is doing well when it comes to this one-they respect the rule of law.Its very important. This is the reason why they didnt give JZ an opportunity to have his day in court. Under ANC JZ would go to prison if he was found guilty.Their strategy worked well. Avoiding going to court was the best option.Even know no one knows whether JZ was guilty or not. hahahahahahahahahaha !!!

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-10 02:16

    I agree with the ruling party-ANC.We have a responsibility to respect our courts.The ANC is doing well when it comes to this one-they respect the rule of law.Its very important. This is the reason why they didnt give JZ an opportunity to have his day in court. Under ANC JZ would go to prison if he was found guilty.Their strategy worked well. Avoiding going to court was the best option.Even know no one knows whether JZ was guilty or not. hahahahahahahahahaha !!!

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-10 02:17

    I agree with the ruling party-ANC.We have a responsibility to respect our courts.The ANC is doing well when it comes to this one-they respect the rule of law.Its very important. This is the reason why they didnt give JZ an opportunity to have his day in court. Under ANC JZ would go to prison if he was found guilty.Their strategy worked well. Avoiding his day in court was the best option.Even know no one knows whether JZ was guilty or not. hahahahahahahahahaha !!!

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-10 02:18

    I agree with the ruling party-ANC.We have a responsibility to respect our courts.The ANC is doing well when it comes to this one-they respect the rule of law.Its very important. This is the reason why they didnt give JZ an opportunity to have his day in court. Under ANC JZ would go to prison if he was found guilty.Their strategy worked well. Avoiding his day in court was the best option.Even now no one knows whether JZ was guilty or not. hahahahahahahahahaha !!!

      Stephan - 2012-06-10 06:33

      I have to agree with you. Then also the other brothers who were found guilty and then were dying and are now playing golf like shaik, and yengeni back in a highly paid job after his corruption. Seems the anc respects the law only when it doesn't affect them.

  • Alex Chitsuwi - 2012-06-10 02:48

    its a pity a lot of black south africans think getting the right to vote is the freedom, wake up...you are still oppressed!!!!

      eyeronix - 2012-06-10 03:06

      \The most potent weapon in the hands of the opressor is the mind of the oppressed\- ...\r\n\r\nFood for thought

      Honest - 2012-06-10 07:20

      u r ryt alex\

      Rude - 2012-06-10 07:24

      alex, did you mean to say'' black Zimbabweans'' ? because here where you can express you oppinion without fear of war veterans being set upon you, where we have one of THE BEST constitutions in the world, where we have most likely the most number of active political parties in one country, where we have a true majority ruling, with free and fair elections as set out, where we have democratically elected rulers, etc! the only ''oppressed'' are the ones who have chained their own minds and choose to use it as an excuse to try and gain pity and a farm or two forcefully taken from its owners without paying for it!

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 12:26

      Alex why if think Mugabe is right are you not back in Harare helping him. A few of the rights available to South Africans are not available to Harare residents. Lets list them, a free press, free airwaves, hospitals with doctors and drugs, schools with books and teachers(for the most part, a police force that applies the law with out fear or favour (again for the most part), and independent judiciary applying the rule of law, democratic elections without murder and violence, the right to protest without being attacked by the police and lastly some but not enough jobs. Go back to Zimbabwe if you think that it offers a better solution and more freedoms.

  • mfihlakaloyezulu.ncwadiengcwele1 - 2012-06-10 05:04

    Hmmm

  • Kevin - 2012-06-10 05:05

    mad bob no one is above the law - ask Charles Taylor - you and charles are the very same poor excuse for an african leader. You masacred your own people in Matabeleland. You are next to face the courts....!

      Kevin - 2012-06-10 12:31

      You wish, Charles Taylor faced the courts. Hannes Fabricius judgement applied to investigations into individuals who have committed torture, which is a crime against humanity Mugabe hasn't actually sullied his hands. There are a few US citizens in the CIA who should also think this through, then again acoording to those arch dimwits and criminals Cheney and Rumsfeld waterboarding isn't torture. If so let them be subjected to it by some Al Quaeda people and then pass judgement.

  • Lititia Hunt Kruger - 2012-06-10 07:18

    18 Years into a new government. Come on we are better than this. Playing the racial card. It will no longer work. Then maybe just for direction....In which country in the world was there ever a successful land reform process? The ones I know of failed miserably. !

  • Ansie Van Der Gryp - 2012-06-10 07:22

    ssssssssssssnake !!! go and kill, torture, starve, mislead your people ...satan ...what have you achieved after all this years NOTHING ... Zimbabwe is a disgrace... but our ministers in south africa is right behind you assisting you in your evil deeds ... voetsek !!!

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-06-10 07:22

    mugabe give up madala you a overpopulating sa

  • Lana - 2012-06-10 07:40

    Thank goodness for this stance by Gwede Mantashe. These are the moments when every South African can truly feel proud of our government and see hope for the future. I just hope that these moments will grow in frequency and volume so that we will be able to hold our heads high and say "We can all live together as one nation of rainbow colours and diverse views in this beautiful country of ours!"

      Ansie Van Der Gryp - 2012-06-10 08:20

      @Lana get a wake-up call ...!!! we are going the same route as zimbabwe ... whites are beeing killed as we speak ...!!!!

  • Jeremy - 2012-06-10 08:05

    This photo of Mugabe will give me nightmares - does he use self tan or something??

  • louis.venter.96 - 2012-06-10 08:15

    Good for the ANC. MY first ever compliment to them for really doing the right thing. There is just no end to the crap that Robert Mugabe utter. There really is no bigger self centered racist anywhere in the world than this little oxygen thief

      Ansie Van Der Gryp - 2012-06-10 08:28

      @Louis NEVER ever trust anc YOU don't know what goes on behind closed doors ...skelms ...!!! TRUST NOBODY !!!

  • Kevin - 2012-06-10 08:27

    S.A. has no mandate, and thus no power to prosecute crimes or abuses by govts of foreign countries. We cannot summons defendants to court, or even demand a legal interrogation. We cannot make any kind of arrests, or impose any legal penalties. While a dossier of abuses can, and should be compiled, it will not be a prosecution in itself. Judge Fabricius has called for a prosecution. Noble, but probably futile.

  • collen.khumalo.3 - 2012-06-10 08:32

    Uyayizwa

  • collen.khumalo.3 - 2012-06-10 08:32

    Uyayizwa

      mb.molefe - 2012-06-10 08:35

      hahahahaha now that juju is gone, rob is back!

  • Charl - 2012-06-10 08:51

    Racist!!!!!!!!!

  • desmond.webster - 2012-06-10 09:16

    Look at the pic. Does Mugabe really have green eyes?? So shiny and slimey

      Bless Boswell - 2012-06-10 11:10

      It does not look Mugabe. Is it him? Maybe he's died and they're not saying anything because the succession has not been settled.

  • Ian - 2012-06-10 09:27

    hey you fat ugly pig, why dont you adopt this kiddie brigade (ancyl), you are both stupid and retarded, you will get on really well after all you both enjoy the same thing, watching your people suffer

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-10 09:42

    Mugabe is a fool. He is supported by fools. I look forward to his death.

  • jacob.molife - 2012-06-10 09:46

    Mugabage does not hav a nuclear factory. The only thing that will frighten Americans. Not blacks killed by a pitch black despot.

  • Zuko Mvabs - 2012-06-10 09:46

    tyo!...i am so fed up of this old man can't he js DIE already.

      Wesley Bischoff - 2012-06-10 11:54

      I agree, the syphilis needs to take effect already!

  • Sagin - 2012-06-10 11:13

    Great. finally something said by the anc that i agree with. but talk is cheap, so now lets see some decisive action on the issue.

  • mphogibson - 2012-06-10 11:14

    They are mutual freinds and they cnt put their long relationship at line because of a probe definately the ANC will twist the probe.watch this space

  • Sagin - 2012-06-10 11:15

    how come everything is the white mans fault?

      Elizabeth Venter - 2012-06-10 11:35

      because it IS the white mans fault, dont u know that? we're the devils spawn sent by satan from foreign lands to turn african soil to white lands. bwahahahaha! what a laugh! its the white mans fault because they dont want to blame themselves for their own stupidity. we're their only excuse, so of course its going to be the white mans fault!

      Bless Boswell - 2012-06-10 11:50

      Because some people are so gullible and overcome with hatred for white people, that they believe the rhetoric. Give it a bit of time, let the ANC continue to sully their reputation, and betray those poor souls they promised to uplift. One would have to be blind not to see that.

  • Johann Enslin - 2012-06-10 12:23

    Don't invest in Africa...simple as that. Looking at ways to downscale my business and invest where I require minimal labour and government interference.

      Sagin - 2012-06-10 12:43

      I have done the same. I no longer employ any labour and my business is better off for it. i work alot harder but have way less stress and losses

      Sagin - 2012-06-10 12:56

      in addition I get more personal satisfaction from my work. now i enjoy my work as opposed to being constantly stressed because of lack of performance, theft, costly stupid mistakes, labour laws and worst of allthat typical south african attitude of take, take,take. Even my black business freinds are doing the same.

      gngaleka - 2012-06-10 18:55

      You employ people because you have to not because you want to. Don't run a small backyard family business and come tell us you won't employ people because of bla bla bla. Employ one to do what. Mpfm.

  • Johann Enslin - 2012-06-10 12:27

    ...when you hear "you whites" you just know it's racist. You are blamed for what people of white skin did 50 years ago. Not racist? Don't argue with fools, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time. ;)

  • gavin.bolton.9 - 2012-06-10 13:23

    How dare this Mugabe challenge a South African Judge, who by the way fought Apartheid, how dare Mugabe say that whites were defeated by African forces of liberation in South Africa. Unlike Zimbabwe we have a constitution that defends the democratic rights of every person South African or otherwise who resides in South Africa. Zimbabweans resident in South Africa have more freedom in South Africa than what the have in Zimbabwe.

  • gavin.bolton.9 - 2012-06-10 13:28

    Mugabe do not bring your racism to my country.

  • Mandy Casey - 2012-06-10 13:42

    It's obvious that bob has no value to offer the ANC here. Hence the reply he received. Perhaps his time is up.

  • cheandrie.human - 2012-06-10 16:45

    Well calling some one a boer in that context is blatantly racist! And even if the ruling is racist two wrongs dont make a right.

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