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Tsvangirai queries parade theme

2012-04-17 19:30

Harare - Zimbabwe's prime minister describes a black empowerment theme chosen by President Robert Mugabe for the nation's 32nd birthday as "repugnant", but says he won't boycott the anniversary parades.

Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai on Tuesday said Mugabe's party dedicated the anniversary to black empowerment and its programme to seize 51% of foreign and white-owned businesses.

Tsvangirai told reporters on Tuesday that fighters who died to end colonial rule in 1980 "will only be proud of us if we bring back the noise in our silent factories", attract investment and create jobs and economic growth.

He said Mugabe's party, in a shaky three-year coalition after violent and disputed elections in 2008, has diminished the meaning of the nation's symbolic freedom day on Wednesday.

Comments
  • Masasi - 2012-04-17 19:53

    \Indigenisation and Empowerment for Economic Transformation.\ Don't see anything wrong with this theme.

  • Ted - 2012-04-17 20:56

    If you see a country spending 32 years transforming, it is doomed even by biblical standards! Jesus was already in his final year at 32 but look what he accomplished! Zimbabwe can not even feed itself, yet even before colonisation, our forefathers could achieve their subsistence goals. You take farms and convert them to braai weekend getaways and you call that empowerment? It could have been better to just group 20 good farms into one good company and give half the shares to blacks and not each a small piece of useless veld. The whites could still be part of the management and the so-called transformation. Not giving people pieces of land without title of meaningful capacity to produce. Such warped thinking is coming to our shores and its scary.

      Jim - 2012-04-17 21:04

      Spot on Ted.....where and when will the situation change for the better for Zim...so much potential...

      Jim - 2012-04-17 21:04

      Spot on Ted.....where and when will the situation change for the better for Zim...so much potential...

      Cris - 2012-04-17 21:15

      Ted you live in Utopia. You talk like the world is one happy family. Did the white farmers want to part with a single inch of their ill gotten land? If they did they wouldn't have lost everything. Let Zimbabweans do things their way we are not doing too great ourselves.

      Cris - 2012-04-17 21:15

      Ted you live in Utopia. You talk like the world is one happy family. Did the white farmers want to part with a single inch of their ill gotten land? If they did they wouldn't have lost everything. Let Zimbabweans do things their way we are not doing too great ourselves.

      Jim - 2012-04-17 22:01

      Chris, forgive me but I just had another thought regarding your comment that "you're not doing to great ourselves" if you are in South Africa, and I suspect that you may be, why don't the electorate stop banging their heads against a brick wall by voting the ANC into power at every opportunity. Vote for another party of your choice and explore. do not be nervious and subservient....be bold and reap the rewards!!

      Jim - 2012-04-17 22:01

      Chris, forgive me but I just had another thought regarding your comment that "you're not doing to great ourselves" if you are in South Africa, and I suspect that you may be, why don't the electorate stop banging their heads against a brick wall by voting the ANC into power at every opportunity. Vote for another party of your choice and explore. do not be nervious and subservient....be bold and reap the rewards!!

      Cris - 2012-04-17 22:15

      The other parties you are talking about do not offer anything to the down trodden(who happen to be majority despite what our constituency might tell us)They only offer servitude and believe me as much as your labourers might appear to love their job nobody likes to live a life of toil. So people vote with a hope of a better life for their kids than them because they have seen what it is under the alternative.

      Cris - 2012-04-17 22:15

      The other parties you are talking about do not offer anything to the down trodden(who happen to be majority despite what our constituency might tell us)They only offer servitude and believe me as much as your labourers might appear to love their job nobody likes to live a life of toil. So people vote with a hope of a better life for their kids than them because they have seen what it is under the alternative.

      Jim - 2012-04-17 22:27

      Chris, I understand and emphathise but something has to change and only the people can make that change. As the old addage goes...nothing will change until something changes...

      Jim - 2012-04-17 22:27

      Chris, I understand and emphathise but something has to change and only the people can make that change. As the old addage goes...nothing will change until something changes...

      Cris - 2012-04-17 22:37

      @Jim, yes people will call for change when they want it. But in my opinion people still feel they are still going through change since 1994 and therein lies the snag. The economic demographics have not changed and even in the work place. I honestly don't know who to blame here but the point is the majority get a sense of 'unfinished business' so why change this early.

      Cris - 2012-04-17 22:37

      @Jim, yes people will call for change when they want it. But in my opinion people still feel they are still going through change since 1994 and therein lies the snag. The economic demographics have not changed and even in the work place. I honestly don't know who to blame here but the point is the majority get a sense of 'unfinished business' so why change this early.

      Jim - 2012-04-17 23:00

      Chris, SA still going through change since 1994 and 'unfinished business'???? The "majority" are failing their children with this attitude. How tragic.........what's with Africa, why this continual wait for someone to pull the chestnuts from the fire, that in itself is subservience. How can "economic demographics" as you put it change under these conditions. The only change may be ownership of these demographics as has happened in other African states, ie Zim....enter the Chinese please into Africa to pull the chestnuts from the fire......to become the new African master....same old same old....

      Jim - 2012-04-17 23:00

      Chris, SA still going through change since 1994 and 'unfinished business'???? The "majority" are failing their children with this attitude. How tragic.........what's with Africa, why this continual wait for someone to pull the chestnuts from the fire, that in itself is subservience. How can "economic demographics" as you put it change under these conditions. The only change may be ownership of these demographics as has happened in other African states, ie Zim....enter the Chinese please into Africa to pull the chestnuts from the fire......to become the new African master....same old same old....

      mfudzi.wamambo - 2012-04-18 17:28

      @Ted your comment reflects your ignorance of the type of commercial farmers in Zimbabwe before land reform. whilst those guys played a significant role in food security in Zimbabwe particularly and elsewhere in general, they remained overtly abusive and incorrigible, reflecting the very same colonial mentality which the process of reconciliation meant to put behind. At the onset of the infamous land reform, most progressive-minded Zimbabweans were of the idea that land reform could be achieved through a process of handover and takeover of excess land coupled with technical assistance from those established commercial farmers. most commercial farmers did not see it that way. however, the problem of land redistribution seemed to have more of political than economic connotations and with politics the world over, politicians will undoubtedly have a field day exploiting any opportunity to their advantage. Starting to argue in favor of commercial farmers participation in land reform in Zimbabwe at this moment is not only futile but its an argument which will leave a bad taste in the mouth of those affected farmers because they never really wanted to share commercial farming activities with their native counterparts in the first place except only as the owners of that land, with natives as providers of labor. Its unfortunate and outright naive how news today is reported as if Zimbabwean farmers were a very innocent lot.

      mfudzi.wamambo - 2012-04-18 17:28

      @Ted your comment reflects your ignorance of the type of commercial farmers in Zimbabwe before land reform. whilst those guys played a significant role in food security in Zimbabwe particularly and elsewhere in general, they remained overtly abusive and incorrigible, reflecting the very same colonial mentality which the process of reconciliation meant to put behind. At the onset of the infamous land reform, most progressive-minded Zimbabweans were of the idea that land reform could be achieved through a process of handover and takeover of excess land coupled with technical assistance from those established commercial farmers. most commercial farmers did not see it that way. however, the problem of land redistribution seemed to have more of political than economic connotations and with politics the world over, politicians will undoubtedly have a field day exploiting any opportunity to their advantage. Starting to argue in favor of commercial farmers participation in land reform in Zimbabwe at this moment is not only futile but its an argument which will leave a bad taste in the mouth of those affected farmers because they never really wanted to share commercial farming activities with their native counterparts in the first place except only as the owners of that land, with natives as providers of labor. Its unfortunate and outright naive how news today is reported as if Zimbabwean farmers were a very innocent lot.

      mfudzi.wamambo - 2012-04-18 17:41

      @Ted ...and so Jesus was also a country, wasn't he?

      mfudzi.wamambo - 2012-04-18 17:41

      @Ted ...and so Jesus was also a country, wasn't he?

  • Jim - 2012-04-17 21:36

    Chris, unless I'm mistaken Ted's comment has nothing to do with white farmers, it's aimed at the people of current Zimbabwe.Regarding your comment about allowing Zimbabwen's to do things their way I fully support that......however allow ALL the people of the country to participate......and be a part of making those choices.

  • tieruh20 - 2012-04-18 02:49

    The Zimbabwean democracy and economic recovery act of 2001 was imposed on Zimbabwe following invasion of private property and abuse of human rights.I read the empowerment bill before it became a law early this year.It emphasizes on empowering the black Zimbabweans who were disadvantaged by colonial era.Nevertheless,it says absolutely nothing about buying the 51% stake.Does this mean that,white owners are going to lose their shares just like that?Is there any source of micro financing or related action plan to sponsor the capital bankrupt black Zimbabweans to buy this stake?If not,I am sorry the whole process will impact positively on ZANU pf campaigning,but catastrophic ultimates specifically divestment surely are going to be witnessed.I suggest it is better to give this stake to Zimbabweans white or black who have invested their capital in diaspora.This will bring the jobs back home.

      tieruh20 - 2012-04-18 12:39

      FIY I am a black Zimbabwean

      tieruh20 - 2012-04-18 12:39

      FIY I am a black Zimbabwean

  • Thami - 2012-04-18 09:06

    Tsvangirai wants noise from factories owned by whites. Now I understand why he never even joined the war of liberation. He has no backbone and is satisfied to work for whites and be advised by whites. Wonder which is the quickest way of getting rid of him, since he doesn't want elections . He is an embarrassment to the nation

      prince.shange - 2012-04-18 11:13

      Hey yep da factory noise wil cum frm da whites ofcoz which is gud so everyboad wil get jobs even knowledge of runing our own things wthout whites we wil remain poor dats y most of da ppl 2day they prefer 2 work 4 whites dan any other nations so race wil never change Zim ok

      prince.shange - 2012-04-18 11:13

      Hey yep da factory noise wil cum frm da whites ofcoz which is gud so everyboad wil get jobs even knowledge of runing our own things wthout whites we wil remain poor dats y most of da ppl 2day they prefer 2 work 4 whites dan any other nations so race wil never change Zim ok

      Thami - 2012-04-18 11:31

      @prince.shange .That's your opinion. Enjoy being a slave for the rest of your life. Instead of thinking how to empower your kids you still want them to call white boys "baas". We can suffer now because we are new farmers and new miners. But in 20 years we will be experts too. Would it not be good if our kids grow up owning successful farms and factories. You are a strange one

  • prince.shange - 2012-04-18 11:06

    presdent Mugabe has lost da grip of rulling our country as most our pple are live in exile so there is no point 2 celebrate hw cn we celebrate wth no food,jobs

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