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US will reward Zim progress – Clinton

2012-08-08 14:36

Cape Town - The United States will reward efforts by Zimbabwe's leaders to pave the way toward free elections, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday.

"Here in Africa, the international community has made it clear that the people of Zimbabwe deserve the right to have their voices and votes counted in a free and fair election," Clinton said in a speech at a Cape Town university.

She urged regional leaders - including the Zimbabwe mediator, South African President Jacob Zuma -to push for a recently approved draft constitution to go to the vote that would allow new polls five years after the violent 2008 election chaos.

"Now the same leaders can help accelerate progress for finalising and adopting that constitution through a credible referendum and holding a free and fair election monitored by the international community," said Clinton.

"And if Zimbabwe's leaders meet these commitments, the United States is prepared to match action for action."

The United States and European Union maintain sanctions against veteran President Robert Mugabe and his inner circle.

The European Union has agreed to lift most sanctions imposed on Mugabe's cohorts - but not those against him and his family - if the country holds a "credible" referendum on a new constitution.

The United States has insisted that Zimbabwe take more steps to curb political violence before agreeing to ease sanctions.

In her sixth leg of a marathon African tour, Clinton called on South Africa to lead efforts at the United Nations human rights council to protect global human rights.

"When old friends in power become corrupt and repressive, a decision by South Africa to stand on the side of freedom is not a sign that you are giving up on old allies, it's a reminder to yourselves and the world that your values don't stop at your borders."

Comments
  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-08-08 15:04

    Sorry Madam, but I fear your words will fall on deaf ears.

  • Fidel - 2012-08-08 15:08

    How about the US stopped treating Zimbabweans/Africans like children, and telling them what's good for them and how good behaviour will be rewarded with a coockie. Your attitude towards Africans is patronising, self-serving and you wonder why the Chinese are so appealing to Africa. They have parked the sanctimonious and patronising codswallop mouthed by the likes of you.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-08-08 15:18

      Well that's how one treats idiot despots, in the hope they will come to their senses and ordinary people will have a chance of having a reasonable life again - something that obviously doesn't bother you since you don't live there.

      Fidel - 2012-08-08 15:33

      Unfortunately for you, US voice carries little weight in Zimbabwe and a lot of other African countries, including SA. No one tells Zimbabweans how to keep order in their own house any more!

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-08-08 15:48

      You are right Fidel, no one has told Mugabe that it is not OK to commit genocide , murder, election rigging and looting the economy. It must be why they are the worst performing economy in the world over the last twenty years, with the highest percentage of economic and political refugees. I recommend that you Fidel off to Zimbabwe and live there. Just a warning writing rubbish on internet sites that the Government does not agree with will earn you a stay in one of their prisons.

      keith.fincham - 2012-08-08 15:50

      Fidel, millions of Zimbabweans/Africans live on less than a cookie a day. Would you deny them such a treat? Your attitude towards Westerners patronises yourself. One day your grandchildren will wake up wondering why you allowed China to pillage your land. Allow the US to feed the starving masses. They just wanna help 'your' people. Why wouldn't you let them? Are you mad?

      Fidel - 2012-08-08 15:54

      This is the whole tragedy about any issues on Zimbabwe. I am sure that you are a reasonable person. However, you are so invested in stories that have been repeated to you over and over that you can confidently toss away the truth without a bother!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:08

      Right now, in the US/Mandela thread, Fidel states that Nelson Mandela is an "Uncle Tom", a fake. This is how delusional and anti-African Fidel's world is. One of the most revered leaders the world over, our own Nelson Mandela, is a fake. Such is his world view.

      Fidel - 2012-08-08 16:08

      @Keith At least the Chinese are investing money without killing the local population in their hundreds and thousands, or pillaging, or enslaving the locals.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:10

      Fidel's obsessive and immature anti-West core belief even distorts his view of Nelson Mandela. I wonder what ANC members and voters (67% of SOuth Africans) think of this.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-08-08 16:15

      fidel. Nobody is tossing away the truth except you. The state of Zimbabwe is fact and is common knowledge throughout the entire world. Listen to yourself. You're saying thet we're all talking rubbish, and the whole world is wrong, Zimbabwe is doing just fine. The thriving Gem of Africa. Who is tossing away the truth fidel? Only you to suite your militant frame of mind and to continue justifying your obvious hate for White people. Next you will say the earth is flat, not round as proven, but flat because fidel says so.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:20

      This is what Fidel sees: Nelson Mandela is an "Uncle Tom", a fake leader, a sellout, a stooge of the White-West. The same Mandela who fell right at the feet of his international manipulators, by allowing himself to be bribed with international cudos, flattery, visits and trinkets. What the ANC cannot do is be Mandela 2.0, sacrifice African advancement at the altar of white sensebilities. SA has a vigorous young generation who finally challenges issues Mandela gingerly avoided. The rehabilitation of the arch "terrorist" Mandela as an honourable international figure, a spokes person and promoter of globalisation; Nobel Award, statues in London etc, sealed his status as the modern "Uncle Tom". It has been very agonising to see a leader of Mr Mandela’s stature and intelligence diminish himself for petty fame and honour bestowed on him by his ex-tormentors.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:23

      This is what Fidel sees: Nelson Mandela is an "Uncle Tom", a fake leader, a sellout, a stooge of the White-West. "The same Mandela who fell right at the feet of his international manipulators, by allowing himself to be bribed with international cudos, flattery, visits and trinkets. What the ANC cannot do is be Mandela 2.0, sacrifice African advancement at the altar of white sensebilities. SA has a vigorous young generation who finally challenges issues Mandela gingerly avoided. The rehabilitation of the arch "terrorist" Mandela as an honourable international figure, a spokes person and promoter of globalisation; Nobel Award, statues in London etc, sealed his status as the modern "Uncle Tom". It has been very agonising to see a leader of Mr Mandela’s stature and intelligence diminish himself for petty fame and honour bestowed on him by his ex-tormentors." [Fidel, in the US/Mandela thread]

      audrey.lang.10 - 2012-08-08 16:47

      Hey Fidel, as soon as China is finished milking all the milk from the African cows, they will drop you like a hot potato.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-08 17:52

      Fidel, At one stage I thought, I just had a disagreement with you, over most issues, but you have turned out the most childish person on these comment sites You are bloated full of silly hatred, and as long as you can spew out your pathethic , outdated anti Western BS , you seem happy.!!!

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-08 18:23

      @Audrey You are just speculating and making assumptions based on western behavior. China doesn't do things the western way, so western assumptions do not apply. @Anthony You do not agree with my post and that causes me absolutely no pain! "It is not best that we should all think alike; it is difference of opinion that make horses race." -Mark Twain.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-08 18:35

      Yes, but a horse and a donkey is not a good match' John Silverton 'the donkey full of hatred' page 43

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-08 18:48

      ""If any whites are mystified as to why Mugabe remains so popular among black South Africans, there is your reason"" Fidel, 02 August 2012 You just make your silly childish hatred stories up, to spew some anti Western feelings, Zimbabwe is the ONLY country in the world where MILLIONS went over the border to......STAY ALIVE It is the ONLY country in the world where tens of thousands of mothers, left the own children in care of relatives, than crawled under barbed wire, into another couintry (SA), to find some kind of employment, so to send these earnings home, so their loved ones CAN STAY ALIVE!! Even in Africa, Harare is one of the few capitals in the world, where you mention the President's name, people start to wisper. YOU ARE A SICK AND DISTURBED PERSON WHO HATES AFRICANS !!!

      jmasha3 - 2012-08-08 19:09

      Very interesting. ignorant,racist SA's with their rainbow poverty and inequalities busy throwing each other with the Zim crap.Ur fake rainbow democracy is slowly but surerly going down the drain.Zim's are earning social grants in SA and building their country soon u'll b crawling under barbed wires to Zim for a better life.

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-08 19:36

      Keith am a zimbo bt I don survive on a cookie but I jus had a descent meal as everyone else in the world, @pudding and anthony you hate zim actually you hate black people but let me tell one thing we (zimbos) are going on with our lives so we do care,PROUDLY ZIMBO

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-09 11:07

      Anthony I wonder why you married her, do you really love her or you just want to use her

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-09 11:29

      Wekunetsaravwe, It are the ones like you, who make Africa dark, and your ONLY contribution to this beautiful continent is HATRED, BS and FILTH!! I deleted my comment myself, as there is too much scum on these sites, to subject my family to. And your above comment proofs you are nothing than a cockroach !!

  • charljnaude - 2012-08-08 17:46

    Thank you missies they are idiots.

  • comrade.shefu - 2012-08-08 17:49

    Hey you Fidel Mugabe why dont you just go to stay with you uncle Bob in Zim.Chinese dont opress african workers....do you work for a Chinese owned company,mine or business.?If you, how much are they paying you?The fact is Zimbabwe is in need of the western aid nomatter how you hate the whites.Bob's (look east policy) has brought nothing except for over inflation that caused Zim to use multi currency ie US dollars ,pounds,euros and francs not Chinese yens.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-08 17:52

      Zimbabwe does not need aid but trade, and that is exactly what China is offering Africa.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 20:05

      To Fidel, even Nelson Mandela is phony. Imagine that. He also thinks the neo-Communist Chinese regime, run by a politburo, is going to bring democracy to Africa and the Middle East.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-09 05:02

      ""Zimbabwe does not need aid but trade,"" What Zimbabwe foremost NEEDS, is an end to TYRANNY, sothat Zimbabwean teachers, who now clean homes, or are gardeners, in Johannesburg northern suburbs, can go back home. This will only happen after this psychopath mugabe drops dead, and what are probably , the hardest workers on this continent, can go back home, to rebuilt their country, which this thug destroyed. Just go to Harare, and compare it what it was 10 years ago, or just 5 years ago, and maybe one will understand what it means; 'running a country into the ground' Just go to Bulawayo, once one of the more prosperous cities in Africa, and see what has happened there, in the past 10 years. A city where thousands had employment, and where now the industrial areas have gone quite. What Zimbabwe needs is foreign investments, that will create JOBS, and most of this kind of investment will come from the USA adn Europe. And most certainly not from China, whose ONLY aim is to secure African minerals for THEIR economy. Libya is a good example; The USA, Europe and China hasd invested heavily in the Libyan oil industry. At the time, the Libyan uprising started in February 2011, there were in Libya a handful of specialized workers from the USA and Europe, and THIRTY THOUSAND CHINESE, who had taken the jobs from locals. THE CHINESE==============BUNCH OF SLIMY BASTARDS !!! .

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-09 08:40

      The Chinese are already doing business in Zimbabwe with terms far better than those damn westerners who want to cart everything away and pay as little as possible.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-09 09:04

      when you came with; "elections are nothing but a noisy circus every 4 or 5 years" you lost any credibility, and became a JOKE !!! THe radicals and extremists on these comment site, take up mor than 50 % ( FIFTY PERCENT ) of its space, whereas in elections all over Africa, and the kind of response you get with your comments ( thumbs down ) , not more than 5 % ( FIVE PERCENT ) share your views Radicals and extremists have not changed their tactics for 60 years !!! Just shove the BS, LIES, CRAP , with plenty FILTH, down the throats of the masss!!!!

  • comrade.shefu - 2012-08-08 17:49

    Hey you Fidel Mugabe why dont you just go to stay with you uncle Bob in Zim.Chinese dont opress african workers....do you work for a Chinese owned company,mine or business.?If you, how much are they paying you?The fact is Zimbabwe is in need of the western aid nomatter how you hate the whites.Bob's (look east policy) has brought nothing except for over inflation that caused Zim to use multi currency ie US dollars ,pounds,euros and francs not Chinese yens.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 18:46

      Fidel is a member of the New Black Panthers, an ultra-racist, anti-White, anti-West political group.

  • wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-08 19:23

    Come on clinton save it don't be a freak we don't care because everyone here in zim doesn't like the new constitution especially the same sex marriage party strictly NO HOMMO.Keep your rewards for yourself, we have been strong for the past decade, so leave us alone we are not your puppets aint no way we gonna bow down to the US and lick your asses no ways. Proudly Zim and am not face the world even if there are a lot of drawbacks but am proud of my country normater what you say,think or do life goes on only God knows where we are herding so don't judge us.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-08 19:42

      Wekunetsavamwe, DON'T insult the MILLIONS of Zimbabweans who escaped this mugabe thug's tyranny, and fled to SA, not to better their life, but to stay alive DON'T insult the tens of thousands of Zimbabwean mothers, who have not seen ther own children in years, all because of that mugabe DOG YOU LOUSY CREEP !!!!

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-08 20:55

      Which zimbos escaped in as much as I know this immigration process has been there for decades and decades, so you mean to say bowing down to the u.s will end these grievences whatsoever? NO. I told you stop relying on the wrong media.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-09 05:28

      Ohhhhh, is that what it is called; 'immigration process' Hundreds of thousands of Asylum seekers, begging the SA authorities to stay in SA, as they CANNOT STAY ALIVE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY !! ""so you mean to say bowing down to the u.s will end these grievences whatsoever"" No,don't be arogant, never said anything like that. ""I told you stop relying on the wrong media"" Re Zimbabwe, one does not have to rely on any media. Here in SA, there are millions of Zimbabweans, all around us, ASK THEM, And that's what you should start doing, instead of making silly comments,

      wekunetsavamwe - 2012-08-09 11:28

      Then they are lying to you,asylum seekers know that once they have it they can easily access jobs so that is the shortcut. Am not being arrogant actually you are showing the highest level of stupidity because am trying to show you the other side of Zim but you don't want to see.I can't deny the fact that at a certain point things aren't well up here but the fact is the U.S are just wasting their time .

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-09 12:49

      It is a bit silly to say that millions of Zimbabweans are lying!! The point I was making is, that by coming to SA, they keep themselves and their families at home ALIVE. Ask Western Union and Moneygram how many hundreds of millions Rands get transferred EVERY MONTH to Zimbabwe. This money is not used to buy designer jeans or fancy watches, but to buy FOOD!!! I have seen the 'other'side in Zimbabwe; A small, corrupt, and when nessercarilly, violent bunch , of mugabe supporters. Their biggest worry ?? : For the EU to lift the 'targeted sanctions, against mugabe, his lovely corrupt wife, and his inner circle, so they can go back to London, to spend their stolen loot ! And let me give you some advise; Don't fall for these extremists silly and childish anti american BS. They are just a bunch of disgruntled LOSERS !!!

  • frank.tagarira - 2012-08-08 19:26

    I think she should focus on the American dream thats up in flames.Poverty in USA is staggering. Millions of people in the US are struggling to make ends meet. Why would she be interested in helping Zim. The people of Zim will help themselves as they are proving so.

      keith.fincham - 2012-08-09 04:30

      Hahahha Frank. Thats classic. 'Helping themselves as they are proving so.' You live in a funny world! lol.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-09 10:10

      You are right Frank, America has got big problems themselves, BUT THAT is what makes the USA such a GREAT country; They still not forget their brothers and sisters in Africa, and continue to send BILLIONS in aid, EVERY YEAR, WOW, WHAT A NATION !!!

  • Michael Rutaganda - 2012-08-10 03:01

    Thanks @Frank( miss Clinton she is going all over in Africa talking about help i don't we African we need Americans help i wander what was her words with goodluck same shooting happening in Nis they also have it in USA finish your problems before you come in africa, 2 Zimbabwe its just next south africa why didn't you make your why to Zimbabwe and speak your word to Zimbabwien if you really love zimbabwe people SA has they on story don't want to know more about Zimbabwe.........

  • Mzimba58 - 2012-08-10 11:32

    Hypocrisy from America won't work, they change personalities in white house but they are the same colonisers looking remote controlled leaders!! Imporsters like Biti and Tsivangarayi, You can not fool the whole Nation all the time!!

      teboh.rapheal - 2012-08-10 16:32

      MZIMBA58 what you have said is exactly the truth.because of alienation some africans often make the mistake of fucussing on individuals than the system.this is how they have been manipulating us for a very long time.in the first place who is america to reward others for doing whatever in thier own land?madame clinton is a decerndant of awuful aryans who eraced indians for thier land.they have no lessons to give others.one sometimes wonder if aryan leaders have brains to think?they have been transformed by centuries of expliotation to children.no sense of rationality cupple with unprecedented moral alienation has pushed them to think and act like sharks in the sea towards others.after all this crimes they creat mythic truth and reconciliation programmes to insfantilise people.any people who forget history and make the sucidal mistake of forgiving aryans shall be wiped from the earths sufface.INCA;MAYA;ABORIGINAL PEOPLE;INDIANS OF AMERICA ARE LIVING EXAMPLES.

  • Mzimba58 - 2012-08-13 16:24

    Divide and Rule failed already in South Africa, Live Zimbabwe to Zimbabweans no wonder Sports men and women from Camerone remained in England yet you do not want to feed and attract non Europeans to EU and America.

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