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Zimbabwe to defy West on diamond sales

2011-06-21 12:43

Harare - Zimbabwe has vowed to defy moves for international monitoring of diamond sales from its disputed Marange fields, at a meeting of the global "blood diamond" watchdog, state media reported on Tuesday.

Mines minister Obert Mpofu said the southern African nation must be allowed to export gems without any monitoring, insisting Zimbabwe has met the minimum requirements of the Kimberly Process Certification Scheme (KPCS), which seeks to prevent diamond sales from financing conflicts.

"Zimbabwe met the KPCS minimum requirements and this was confirmed by the last plenary" of the Kimberley Process, Mpofu said on the sidelines of the meeting in Kinshasa, according to the state-run Herald newspaper.

"Tell me of any country in Africa that has invested as we have done in the Marange area," he said. "Any other outstanding issues must be regarded as work in progress, but must not stop our full diamond export right."

Mpofu said Zimbabwe has for two years invested "in attempting to rectify all KPCS issues in Marange area without any external financial assistance", adding that "Zimbabwe is not being treated fairly".

Outcry

The Marange fields, touted as Africa's richest diamond find of the decade, have been at the centre of a years-long controversy over reported abuses by Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe's military.

Monitors say the military seized control of the fields in late 2008, violently evicting tens of thousands of small miners and then beating and raping civilians to force them to mine the gems.

Human rights groups say about 200 people were killed, and Kimberley Process investigators later documented "unacceptable and horrific violence against civilians by authorities", prompting a ban on exports of the gems.

In March, the Democratic Republic of Congo - which has close ties to Mugabe and is the current chair of the Kimberley Process - made a unilateral decision to allow Zimbabwe to sell diamonds from Marange.

The decision sparked an outcry among other members of the Kimberley Process, which is supposed to reach decisions by consensus at its regular meetings. The decision was put on hold and no sales have taken place.

Comments
  • Ben - 2011-06-21 13:00

    Hou jou bek Bob

      Andy49 - 2011-06-21 17:07

      Has this idiot no shame, last week asking Zoomba Zoomba for $50m rescue package for struggling companies in Bulawayo, yet they make millions from these blood diamonds.

  • Thor - 2011-06-21 13:10

    This should not even be a question. Zim has made it clear they are not prepared to play ball so shut them off let them go on alone. I seem to recall they need nothing from the west. If they don't want to meet the conditions of the "buyers" let them find another market.

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 13:29

      75% of the diamonds sold on the market are sold to India, China and the rest of the eastern block. Zimbabwe is playing ball, despite the West trying by all means to ensure that we never recover economically. In fact, this is a simple matter. Every country that sells diomonds should have Kimperly Process certification. We have that!

      nickwes - 2011-06-21 13:41

      @Sooth Sayer: every country that currently sells diamonds on the open market DOES have KPC, otherwise they are not allowed to trade. The problem is that Zim's KPC was illegally obtained by the usual African back-hander technique with their equally corrupt buddies from the DRC.

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 13:44

      nickwes, first its Sooth Slayer, not Sooth Sayer - BIG difference. But thats besides the point. Like you say, every country that sells diamonds on the open market DOES have KPC. Zimbabwe does. But why are they not being allowed to sell? Why are they being told that they should be monitored? Mind you this monitoring is IN ADDITION to KPC! Why?

      daaivark - 2011-06-21 13:45

      What on earth are diomonds? and What is the Kimperly Process. Sounds like a pimple convention, you idiot. Those bloody stones are called diamonds and it's "Kimberley". At least try not to appear so foolish.

      chan chan - 2011-06-21 13:51

      @sooth - they dont want blood diamonds !! you cant kill and torture people to get rich ! thats what they are trying to say ... but ja ... see what happends when u chase all the whites away !! no money, no food, no economy, no1 to sort out all your problems, and 1 more thing, the UN has millions of dollars raised for ZIM - they waiting for old BOB to disappear and the will start reconstructing the country - ALLLL DONE BY WHITE PEOPLE !!! mmmm maybe this will give the UN reason to invade ... take out BOB and bring order to a once beautifull country - i see this having a chain reaction in South Africa and malemas LAND GRAB idea will go out the window.. HOLD THUMBS EVERY1

      nickwes - 2011-06-21 13:52

      @Sooth Sayer: I thought the article was quite clear on why they are not allowed to sell. "In March, the Democratic Republic of Congo - which has close ties to Mugabe and is the current chair of the Kimberley Process - made a unilateral decision to allow Zimbabwe to sell diamonds from Marange" That seems very easy to understand why it has been put on hold, not?

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 13:58

      daaivark, and what is a "pimple convention"? You think you are a great spell checker, neh? About your foolishness comment i can only quote an old shona adage: "Mapenzi anozivana" or in a language you understand, "Fools can recognize one another!"

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 14:05

      nickwes, if all your comments about this issue are only based on 'information' or misinformation that you have gotten from this article, then your ignorance can be pardoned. A simple google search, or better still a visit to the Kimberly process website will give you a clearer picture of the situation. in case you dont have the time, just a cursory look at the documents on this page (kimberleyprocess.com/media/news_releases_en.html)will show you that 1. this article is not thoroughly researched; 2. it is biased and untruthful. and most importantly, 3. Zimbabwe has KPC - the only genuine requirement for selling diamonds. All this noise is about some nations who simply do not want to see the success of Zimbabwe for their different political agendas.

      WC Republic - 2011-06-21 14:08

      @soothslayers, the KPC certificate means nothing if you are in clear violation of it. And stop blaming the West for your failing economy, they have nothing to do with it. And your uncle Bob needs to be shipped off to the ICC

      chan chan - 2011-06-21 14:09

      LIKE this comment if u think SOOTH SLAYER and old ROB are complete idiots !!

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 14:11

      chan chan: you say, "see what happends when u chase all the whites away." So you are in agreement with Bob that all this is simply punishment for chasing white people away? Now for your own information, you are best advised to visit Zimbabwe one of these days and see for yourself. Yes, the rich white folk (and the west) withheld their money, imposed sanctions etc. But even before then, that money still was their and theirs alone. even the land was theirs. Now its ours. Now the diamonds are ours. and we may not have money today, but watch this space. 5, 10 or 20 years from now. even 2 or 3 generations from now. lastly, let me repeat! we do not need UN or anyone's money. let us sell our diamonds and other produce from our country and that money we will earn will be enough for us!

      chan chan - 2011-06-21 14:21

      hahahaha SOOTH SLAYER - tell that to all the thousands of people leaving your country every day looking for a better life in counrtys that the minorities(WHITE PEOPLE) still live in !! eg. south africa you guys took the land, now there is no1 to farm it, you took the business, now theres no1 to manage them, now you complaining because the world wont let you sell your dirty diamonds !! you guys dug your own graves !! and you still blame the white man for you problems, WAKE UP AND TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN LIFE !!!

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 14:26

      Ok, this is the last time I am saying this: read the heading of the article. "Zimbabwe to defy West on diamond sales." It doesnt say, Zimbabwe to defy the Kimberly Process. In other words, Zimbabwe is acting in accordance with the requirements of the KPC. If you cannot get or understand that, ishauri yako (that's your own problem). I am neither a teacher nor do i have the patience to hold your hands and see reason.

      Mugabe - 2011-06-21 14:34

      looks like people's comments are based on their Hatred of Bob. facts on the ground, the diamonds are clean and the process is managed by all parties in Zim and there is no room for Bob's cronies to steal any of the proceeds

      WC Republic - 2011-06-21 15:10

      @chan chan now Sooth Slayer are even blaming the Westeners for not leaving their wallets behind after they got kicked off their farms. @ sooth slayer I have a movie for you to watch. Go educate yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuEc-nFULY8

      Ben - 2011-06-21 15:52

      @ Sooth Slayer Please uninstall your browser. Thanks.

      Willem Louw - 2011-06-21 16:34

      @Sooth Slayer - I think you don't understand. People are questioning whether you actually comply with the KPC. It seems clear to me that you have the document, but perhaps obtained it by dubious means. There for you should be monitored, and your KPC revoked if evidence should emerge that prove peoples' suspisions. I have been to Zim recently - and what I saw brougth tears to my eyes. The human rights attrocities committed against people of all races and colour are shocking. The West will never allow this behaviour to go unchecked and will sanction you until your government collapses. You can't profit from other people's misery and suffering. Bob, buldozes everyone that aposes him, he doesn't discriminate. That is why SA is being flooded by Zimbabwians fleeing the country. We can't keep up with the influx, of Black people 2. So you wanna tell me all is well. Is your IQ and matter of reasoning really that low?

      nn.prv - 2011-06-21 20:17

      Tell them Sooth Slayer.You on the ball.

      Magoo - 2011-06-21 23:47

      Debeers sold Zim diamonds for 10 years while the country entered the troubled era, the moment the country requested a share of this wealth, Kimberley process became effective. Who are you to judge who is right and who is wrong, yes the Zim Government has it wrong, but you know what, i would rather ZANU PF cronies owned all the mines than no Zimbabwean owning anything at all period! Trickle Down effect will not happen if owners are not local!

  • JMan - 2011-06-21 13:11

    Pathetic. The lot of them.

  • saliem - 2011-06-21 13:20

    If Zimbabwe has met the minimum requirements of KPCS, why are they so averse to monitoring? The hands of the ZANU PF leadership are tainted with blood and see this as inhibiting their ability to grow their personal wealth!

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 13:31

      They are averse to monitoring because no one else gets monitored once they have complied with the kimberly process. We have complied with the Kimberly process. We are simply saying, apply the rules equally!

      saliem - 2011-06-21 13:41

      @Sooth Slayer - In the case of Zimbabwe, continuous monitoring is a prerequisite for any activity that generates forex for them. Let's face it ZANU PF LOST the last election and are only still in power due to Mugabe cronies across our side of the border. Free and fair elections must be a pre-requisite to relinquish restrictions... finish and klaar!

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 13:46

      All the folks who have 'thumbs down' my comment above are either ignorant, or simply averse (to borrow saliem's fav. word) to the truth.

      WC Republic - 2011-06-21 14:13

      You know what Zanu PF's problem is. They are always blaming the entire world for their problems, when it's actually the very people like you that's the problem. Wake up dude

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 14:15

      Saliem - the selling of diamonds, the KPC etc have nothing to do with elections, free and fair or otherwise. Lets not start the Zanu pf is still in power debate, because evidently, you are not well informed!

      Mugabe - 2011-06-21 14:19

      hey guys, the Minister of Mines is a ZANU but the ministry of finance gets all the monies and it is under MDC, there is no ZANU gaining anything from these mines. please get your facts right before you post your oviuos racist comments

      WC Republic - 2011-06-21 14:20

      Yes and my name is Donald Duck

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 14:28

      WC republic - your problem is you think the West is the entire world. Don't know if i should also tell you to wake up?

      jevoixtout - 2011-06-21 14:46

      Yip, If the Mugarbage regime meet the minimum requirements of KPCS, then so have Idi Amin, Gaddafi and the rest of the African dictators.

      saliem - 2011-06-21 14:46

      @Sooth Slayer - the truth is that ZANU PF rule by their own rules with no regard for democracy, rule of law or the plight of the majority of its citizens. You get what you give bro - that's how the civilised world works. Cheers :P

      WC Republic - 2011-06-21 14:50

      @sooth so what's your take on the human rights groups. Are they simply the West's puppets?

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-23 09:33

      Joker, i dont know if you will come back to follow up on this comment. But have you ever heard the saying, "he who pays the piper calls the tune"? When you tell me who funds these so-called human rights groups, then i will tell you whether they are puppets or not!

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-06-21 13:22

    Mo garbage from Bob...

      Mugabe - 2011-06-21 14:31

      you listen too much to propaganda and you now believe it. Even the opposition in Zim want the KPCS. Biti (MDC) wants that money from diamonds to increase civil servants salarie

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-06-21 14:52

      When mending a fence, make sure you close the gate first...

  • tryanything - 2011-06-21 13:24

    But Bob is bumming money from us at the moment

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 13:32

      If we could sell our diamonds without any of the nonsense we are getting from the west and their puppets here, we wouldnt need SA money, or anyone's money for that matter!

      daaivark - 2011-06-21 13:48

      Forsooth Slayer, then we too could finance tyrants, oppress nations and generally be good little warmongers. So how is Mugabe paying you? Surely not with Zim dollars. Could it be with little shiny stones? Oh my.

      Shadoz - 2011-06-21 13:49

      yes Sooth Slayer but your diamonds have blood on them and human suffering. If you can accept this you are not human and deserve to be put down. Robert Mugabe is a piece of human trash and i hope he burns in whatever hell he gets.

      Totman - 2011-06-21 13:55

      These diamonds get mined and sold for a couple of years already. Where are the monies??? Ask Bob and his family. The reason why he wants the right is to cut out the middle man and obtain higher prices. Although still for certain people's pockets. Sooth Slayer he suppressed his own people to get his hands on those diamond fields. Do not comment on something you know nothing off. If you know and stand with your point you are most probably one of them that "benefit" The dealers in the west are no angels, but neither are the Zim regime.

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-21 14:35

      totman, have you ever been to Chiadzwa? Do you even know where Zimbabwe is on your map? Well, i actually know more about Zimbabwe, about Chiadzwa diamonds etc than you do. if anyone should shut-up, its you and other ignorant commentators here who only know that they hate Mugabe and as a result they fail to see reason. But let me enloghten you a bit. Mugabe does not own the diamond mines. 49% of the mine is actually owned by a South african company. the other 51% by MMPZ, a Zimbabwean company.

      jevoixtout - 2011-06-21 14:47

      Bob is like a pair of underpants. Always on the bum.

      youngun - 2011-06-21 14:48

      why does bob need to borrow money or sell diamonds when he is worth billions of dollars? phone up switzerland or China, be a kind little dictator and give a billion back to your starving people..?

  • Shadoz - 2011-06-21 13:47

    Everyone look at what has happened to the amazing Zimbabwe under the hands of a tyrant and human rubbish. This is the same road that South Africa is on. I don't wish the worst for these poor people in Zim but i am afraid they have made there bed now they must sleep in it.

      Totman - 2011-06-21 15:18

      That is where you are wrong. They did not made this bed. It was made for them and the people who made it left some leverage for an man, like Mugabe, to make the bed comfortable for himself. Please do not think Zim is SA. All African states have there unique conditions and by applying a total outside approach on them is not always the answer.

  • onetickie - 2011-06-21 14:11

    This ego-manic is interested in himself and needs the money FOR HIMSELF, not his people. And the countries who buy diamonds from this rabid turd should be boycotted by the civilized world. The comment: "Zimbabwe is not being treated fairly" is nauseating - how has this bigoted monster moogabe treated his people?

  • JustinD - 2011-06-21 14:15

    The West must put an immediate stop to all aid going to Zim and i mean everything must stop.....then let the people of Zim suffer and suffer and suffer some more until THEY stand up and say enough and overthrow the thief and murderer they have in old Bob. Send Mugabe to the Hague where he belongs.

      Totman - 2011-06-21 14:46

      It is easy to say that JustinD, but it is good loving people that was previously misused by the English and some that stayed behind. All was good and well, but than the people develop in a more urban nation and ZANU PF started losing support. The old "sick' man than start using the only thing left and that was land distribution. Before that he just ignore it because all was going well for him. The land owners were also ignoring it by putting their head, like an ostrich, in the sand. Mugabe use this issue, but in a way that benefit him and his party. Not to benefit the country. If any nation wants the old man to be toppled, they have to put a fair plan on the table and communicate it to all on the ground. They are a good people, but I am afraid they are now start learning bad habits under these circumstances.

  • daaivark - 2011-06-21 15:20

    Oh well, Re Sooth slayer.... no point in trying to reason with a brick wall, so I leave you to frolick in your own sewage. Have a nice life in the boondox. PS. I am familiar with Shona, you twit.

      Sooth Slayer - 2011-06-23 09:37

      There you go again daaivark. Stop embarrassing yourself.

      daaivark - 2011-06-23 09:49

      In what way should I be embarrassed about being more sensible than you. That's rich.

  • Joe Soap - 2011-06-21 22:18

    Mad Bob and Julius deserve the same medicine = Pb

  • Doringdraad - 2011-08-08 11:17

    Siek, siek , siek, en die mense wat ly is die gewone ou wat niks met hom te doen wil he nie, sad, but tru But the jungle rule,rule here..

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