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Zuma set for 'make or break talks' in Zim

2012-03-08 14:05

Cape Town - President Jacob Zuma is expected in Zimbabwe in the next few days for make or break talks with President Robert Mugabe and other leaders in the shaky inclusive government on the timing of elections, News Day reported on Thursday.

Mugabe has intensified calls for polls this year with or without a new constitution - a move that has been dismissed by South Africa.

According to the report, the dispute between Mugabe's Zanu-PF party and Zuma's facilitation team on fresh elections has "degenerated into an ugly public spat setting the stage for a confrontation between the two leaders".

The report said Zuma's advisor Lindiwe Zulu confirmed that her boss was preparing for the trip.

"I don’t have the exact date yet, but all I can confirm is that he has to come to Harare as soon as possible," she said.

Attempts by News24 to get confirmation proved fruitless.

Zuma has just returned from a trip to Botswana, Namibia and Angola, during which he was reportedly mobilising regional support to tackle the sticky Zimbabwean problem.

The SA leader is also expected to consult Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai and Deputy Prime Minister Arthur Mutambara on the way forward.


 

Comments
  • Victor - 2012-03-08 14:09

    Typical they break everything.

      Francois - 2012-03-08 14:39

      This is not about breaking anything. This is an African solution for an African problem facilitated by Hypocrite Mbekkie who since ever Bob stole the 2002 election played the self determination card and let African decide for themselves cards. I think Zuma must do the honourable thing and give Bob and Mnangagwa asylum in SA, it is going to be far cheaper that wat and get all the Zimmers to go back to work in their country and restiture all properties to the rightful ownwers, even if Mbekkie got a farm. Then the AU sends in the biggest army they can find and monitor elections so that the Zim Armed farces dont do it and then we take it from there. In that way one will have a free election, a new leadership, stabler economies in the whole region and the despot can do his shopping in Sandton city. We will give him and his wife the second Wednesday of every months for 4 hours, she anyhow only needs to buy sunglasses for when Bob needs to pick up something from the floor. Mbekkie, SPEAK OUT!

      Stan - 2012-03-08 15:07

      @Victor, typical racist piece of crap...

      Gerhard - 2012-03-08 20:17

      Wherever Zuma goes, he comes back empty handed.

  • Victor - 2012-03-08 14:10

    Typical they break everything

      Grant - 2012-03-08 17:50

      Typical misleading headline!! Should've been: "Zuma set for 'break talks' in Zim"

  • Dave Prinsloo - 2012-03-08 14:15

    going for tips on remaining in power, staying above the law, and to swop recipes for boiled virgin heart with a fine ciante

  • Willie - 2012-03-08 14:17

    There is only one solution ,institute sanctions against this dictator

      Mark - 2012-03-08 14:48

      Danny. What are you doing in Rustenburg, when your sort should be home starving in Zim. Did you swim across the river?

      Gigo - 2012-03-08 15:02

      Mugabe is not a dictator, people are voting for him, how can you be a dictator then?

      Bob - 2012-03-08 15:34

      Sganja, are you really that far out of touch, you trying to tell me he is voted in by a fair and unintimidated election, gee man put your glasses on.

      lindz.kok - 2012-03-08 15:45

      bob look at his profile pic... what did you expect from a m@nkey with a gun?

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:39

      Sganja, sunstroke?.

  • Thoka - 2012-03-08 14:20

    good luck msholozi, uncle Bob has a deaf switch he only liston when he feels like it. Do you think he wants all ZIMSA back in his country. you kidding me.never!!!!

  • Geoff - 2012-03-08 14:23

    Mr Zuma I hope you are flying in only one plane this trip. We really need to put the brakes on spend and set an example to the whole country. Oh and forget the allegiance to Bob....let's go for an internationally acceptable settlement and peaceful, democratic way forward.

      Moss - 2012-03-08 14:54

      Ohh enough already!!

  • Johane Muhoni - 2012-03-08 14:24

    show him the middle finger,Msholozi.

  • Herman - 2012-03-08 14:24

    Talks did not work in the past with Mugabe. Why waste taxpayer's money on a joyride to Zim if we know its not going to work! Only a fool will trust Mugabe!!!

  • LekkePerd - 2012-03-08 14:25

    Another luxury trip to get no results

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:40

      Not much shopping to do there.So one plane should be enough.

  • Nosiphom - 2012-03-08 14:26

    Come back after the Elections JZ. You are never here anyway, and the country is in autopilot. Be Mugabe's guest for the next few months, we are fine!

  • jamesbond - 2012-03-08 14:27

    Hey zuma sort out the problems in zims so all the illegals can go back home. Then go to nigeria and the rest.

      Christian - 2012-03-08 19:37

      Jya, remind him also to come and collect these so called SA medical doctors here in England. Some say they are refugees coz their gvt is disciminating against them!

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:42

      Christian, what do you mean by so called doctors?. If they are white they are discriminated against. Maybe you should pay more attention to British politics and less to ours.

  • danny.kangausaru - 2012-03-08 14:30

    we won't listen to Zuma this man has faild us as african.

      Ed - 2012-03-08 14:51

      ahhhhh....it all falls into place, the mampara is a fan of juju and of robert 'i am dumber than sh1t' mugabe! wtf????and you are supposed to be teaching kids in rustenburg? if you love mugabe so much, why not go back to zim??? oh wait....society has kind of crumbled there and things are kind of costly now. shame, loser.

      whutamo - 2012-03-08 14:59

      We get the picture Jan. Black people are G.A.F.ies. Right. Change in this country starts with letting go of those mentalities. If you care about living in a better country do your bit, so that when you talk and open your mouth, you know your bit was done to bring change. Instead of spreading stereotypes. LOL a bit,You will die of stress. or you want to correct me and say its Laugh Out Loud.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-08 15:09

      @whutamo what happened 2 the y in G.A.F.Y. You see your so blinded by your own hate its its bringing your IQ down or can it? I think what he meant was go and Fook yourself! witch apply 2 u aswell!

      Neutra - 2012-03-08 15:46

      danny - it's called democracy. If you don't like it take your belongings (if you have any) and move to Zimbabwe!

      Ed - 2012-03-08 15:48

      whutamo....dude, no need to get racial here. there is a BEEEEEG difference between smart and schtupid rascist. you fit into the latter.

      danny.kangausaru - 2012-03-08 16:15

      i am an African so are u whites? This is home chali where do you belong?

      danny.kangausaru - 2012-03-08 16:19

      Only whites will move we belong here not anywhere else.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-08 16:36

      I've got 2 green books that says differently!

  • Michele - 2012-03-08 14:31

    I really plays hardball with the fool Mugabe. Its only thanks to the incompetent Mbeki that any credibillity was given for the blatant sham that was their last election. The people of Zimbabwe really deserve better than the murderous thugs who have run the country for the past 30 years. Beware mad Bob and your cronies. . . your time is nearly up and then there will be retibution.

  • Deon - 2012-03-08 14:31

    Another talk to another "brother leader". This will lead nowhere.

  • Ed - 2012-03-08 14:38

    shoot mygabe....he lost the last elections TWICE and still bullies his way to the top of the pile and is in power!!! how teh hell can the loser win? oh wait, african politics! as for juju and his friend polo-boy...dude, juju is as corrupt as mugabe and wishes to be like mugabe. is that what you really want??? to have your country as poor and destitute as zim??? go back to woodwork class...as for this muppet danny-k, how has the pres failed africa? go back to nigeria or zim wherever you are from and realise that YOU yourself failed. you failed to speak out when mugabe started with his hit-squads in matabele land, you failed when mubuto sesi-seko started raping and pillaging, you failed in the ivory cost and you most probably said nothing to stop juju. at least in SA we can still speak out and that is why we win and you are here...

  • Andre - 2012-03-08 14:38

    JZ will kiss Mugabe's backside, just like the AU and Mbeki. Interesting how they struggle for human rights, but don't support Zimbawians? - spineless.

      Grimett - 2012-03-08 15:15

      and sing umshini wam' for him.

  • pws69 - 2012-03-08 14:39

    I can't believe how we have let Mugabe play our respective Presidents for a fool for so long. Are our presidents just doff, or are they scared?

      Nosiphom - 2012-03-08 16:29

      Its the African thing. Mugabe is senior to both Mbeki and Zuma, they cannot tell him anything. They can only pleade with him. Secondly Mugabe knows he has the upper hand, if they don't play ball, he messes up further and the rest of the people cross the boarder, and the SA companies there are imponded. He has their balls in his hand. They push too much, he squeezes.

  • Stephen - 2012-03-08 14:40

    'talks' with a thug? what's the point? waste of tax payers money.

  • Andrew - 2012-03-08 14:49

    Mugabe will eat Zuma for breakfast and spit him out like a pip. Zuma has no brains whatsoever!!!

      Stan - 2012-03-08 15:05

      and you have brains? Bwahahahaha

  • whutamo - 2012-03-08 14:52

    Zuma must sit down, and step down. I will not be surprised if he is going there to negotiate a business deal with Mugabe for one of his cousins

      Neutra - 2012-03-08 15:50

      I think you're confusing him with that crook Malema.

  • Anneck - 2012-03-08 14:53

    Many holiday destinations to discuss I suppose?

  • Willem - 2012-03-08 15:23

    much as I hate the way we kiss up to Big Bob , I do understand why we do it. Big Bob doesn't care , if he doesn't get his way he'll happily burn the country to the ground . it's pretty much his way or civil war ( and seems most of the Zimbabweans (well the ones that didn't get genocided or ran across the border) are pretty happy with him , so let them be.)

  • Neutra - 2012-03-08 15:45

    It's about time that Mugabe's stubbornness is punished. People have sympathized with this old fart for way too long!!

  • Neutra - 2012-03-08 15:48

    All these Mugabe & Malema-lovers must piss off to Zim so they can grow their own mieliepap and build their own mudhuts while the rest of the world progesses.

  • danny.kangausaru - 2012-03-08 16:41

    I am so disturbed by some black people who do not feel for thier fellow black south africans who live in poverty, they are so blinded to see.

      Neutra - 2012-03-08 18:00

      danny, the thing is a lot of black people have started gaining more jobs & security so they are starting to see the bigger picture. The redistribution of wealth or "economic freedom" as some may call it will just take away money from already struggling industries in a tough economy and give it to people who struggle. a lot of people will lose their livelihoods because a lot of companies will close down and lose a lot of skills if you just take it and give it to the poor. They need to be uplifted to a more progressive place in life. There's no point in pulling the whole country down and setting us back 50 years instantly. Patience must be exercised and restraint must be shown, and people must make their VOTES count if they want better living conditions!! The apartheid era is long gone. Times have changed. This is the rainbow nation now and it will never be ruled by one color of skin again. Sensible governance and tackling of all the country's pending concerns effectively in a way that benefits all is the only way to phase out the damages of the past. Causing chaos is not the answer. The destination of anarchy is completely unpredictable.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:46

      Trevor, well now we have it. Blacks are not interested in Jobs. You just said so. Thank you.

  • Jacqui - 2012-03-09 11:38

    Those make or break talks. How many more are we to have?.

  • Kevin - 2012-03-09 21:32

    What will happen if Mugabe goes ahead and has the elections this year? Will South Africa close the boarders, cut power supply's and declare sanctions against Zimbabwe? Or will it be, "Oh dear, that was a bad thing to do. Please don't do it again"

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