I have serious issues with BEE – Mantashe

2012-08-22 10:25

ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe has said he has “serious grievances” with BEE focusing on shareholding rather helping beneficiaries gain a deeper understanding of business.

He was addressing analysts as part of the ANC’s programme to speak to various sectors in South Africa.

Mantashe said the ANC would meet the Black Business Council (BBC) to discuss the strengths and failures of BEE and the role of state procurement in transformation of the economy.

A representative from the BBC had complained that government’s procurement policy had gone wrong.

Various delegates raised questions about the effectiveness of BEE policies.

Mantashe responded that he had a problem with the idea of BEE.

“I have a serious grievance with BEE ... focusing on shareholding with beneficiaries not being operational.”

He said if the beneficiaries of BEE deals were not part of operations, they were not gaining a deeper understanding of the business in order to grow.

“Operational exposure, to me, is more powerful than just ownership ...”

Mantashe drew parallels with apartheid, when Afrikaner nationalists were in power from 1948 to 1994.

“Afrikaner capital, after 40 years in power,... they couldn’t produce a single CEO of mining, not one.”

All chief executives of mining companies up until 1994 were white and English.

“We should not wait for 40 years to produce genuine black CEOs who can run companies.”

He commended Xstrata’s South African CEO Sipho Nkosi for not being a “window-shopping CEO”.

“Sipho Nkosi is not a big shareholder, but he is very operational ... he knows mining. To me, that is how we are going to transform the economy.”

When questioned about factions within the ANC, Mantashe said they had been around for years.

“I wish we can have an organisation that has no factions.”

He spoke of a Pan-Africanist faction splitting from the ANC amid “violent polemics” in 1959.

“It was then, it is today, it will be in future,” Mantashe said.

However, he said: “When there are confrontations in an organisation, we always exaggerate them as always a division about to see a split. I think that is a flawed analysis when there are politicians.”

He said the contradictions helped move the party forward.

“The fact that people have different views... actually it sharpens you.”
Must deliver

Black business should deliver affordable, quality products and services if it wants government contracts, Mantashe said.

“As we support black business, black business must bring a commitment of delivery, cost-competitive and quality of items that are procured,” he told analysts and business people in Soweto.

He asked why a government-built school cost a minimum of R20 million to construct, while a private sector-funded school only cost between R5 million and R10 million.

“Something is wrong with this system of creating layers and layers of business because the primary objective of building a school is made secondary ... to creating business beneficiaries.”

Mantashe said the primary outcome of the ANC lekgotla in July was that the government needed to drop the system of tenders.

It needed to move away from giving business to black companies, and then afterwards arguing about quality and cost.

“Don’t undermine this question of people delivering bridges that get eroded with the first rainfall. It can’t continue. It just can’t continue. It is wrong. It is wrong.”

Mantashe suggested that black businesses look to SizweNtsalubaGobodo, South Africa’s largest black auditing firm, as an example of how to succeed.

The company started small, but now handled the entire audit account of parastatal Transnet because of the quality of its work, Mantashe said.

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