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Don’t project your prejudice onto AfriForum

2011-10-03 08:15

Dear Adriaan,

Your open letter to me reveals that your criticism against AfriForum is not really based on what the civil rights organisation does or says, but rather on what AfriForum is.

The facts that AfriForum draws wide support from Afrikaners and that its membership trebled over the past 18 months present a problem when you and pro-Julius Malema commentators judge AfriForum based on your embedded negative stereotypes about many Afrikaners.

You and a number of commentators apparently find it difficult to accept that right-wing organisations receive little support from Afrikaners these days and that most Afrikaners want to promote peaceful coexistence.

It is this group of Afrikaners who increasingly support AfriForum’s justified ideals.You will naturally deny that you apply double standards to organisations like AfriForum.

Therefore, I would like to draw your attention to a few examples of yours and other critics’ double standards.

After the Equality Court had convicted Malema of hate speech against women in the Sonke Gender Justice Network case most people, including AfriForum, reacted positively to the court’s protection of women’s dignity.

I assume that you also reacted positively to the ruling, as I have not seen an open letter from you to the justice network in which you accuse them of misleading women and polarising the community.

When Jon Qwelane was found guilty of hate speech against homosexuals, the response was also positive.

In this instance you didn’t write an open letter to the Human Rights Commission – who took the matter to court – accusing them of polarising people.

Yet, when AfriForum approached the court for similar hate speech against Afrikaners and won the case, you found it necessary to accuse the organisation of misleading Afrikaners and polarising people.

Failing to recognise that it ought to be just as unacceptable for Julius Malema to call Afrikaners dogs that should be shot, as it is to degrade women, homosexuals and black people, testifies to your double standards.

It seems you have been taken in tow by anti-AfriForum propaganda to the extent that you follow a selective approach to reality.

You acknowledge that AfriForum took action against Malema and Judge Nkola Motata’s racist tirades, but ignore AfriForum’s public criticism of incidents in which black people were degraded by the use of the offensive k-word.

In your attempt to discredit AfriForum, you used statistics selectively and incorrectly.

For example, you ask why AfriForum didn’t issue a positive media statement after what you call a decrease of “100%” in farm murders.If your assumptions are correct, it means that farm murders are not happening any longer.

If it was so, I can assure you that AfriForum would have been the first to congratulate government on this achievement (The published figure of 100% is wrong.

The correct figure is 50%. This was also corrected on the News24 website – editor).

Your assumption that AfriForum does not have legitimacy among black people owing to, among others, its choice of campaigns like the Malema case, distorts reality.

Do you really believe that the majority of black people liked to hear Malema’s polarising statements and to see an intimidating Malema surrounded by armed guards at the court?

Despite your criticism, AfriForum will continue to step in when Afrikaners are treated unfairly, without being ashamed of who and what we are.

I invite you and other people who still harbour prejudices against people with whom you disagree to help build a society based on mutual recognition and respect.

Naturally, this does not mean that we may not disagree with each other.

However, stereotyping the participants in a public debate is not conducive to constructive dialogue.

Instead of trying to discredit AfriForum through baseless stereotyping, you should first consider the organisation’s morally justified arguments.

Best wishes,
Kallie Kriel,
Chief executive: AfriForum


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Comments
  • Stoutgat - 2011-10-03 08:42

    Forget about the feeble-minded suckups like Adriaan Basson. Weaklings and sell-outs are everywhere, and Basson is simply singing his ANC master's tune, not possessing the will or the intellect to think for himself.

      IC1 - 2011-10-03 14:57

      Yea he (Adriaan Basson)is pretty much cut from the same cloth as that other idiot minister of tourism (kortbroek aka Marthinus van Schalkwyk)

      Richie - 2011-10-03 16:03

      So much ridiculous statements and/or accusations by Basson left un-answered though! I guess the fact that he stuffed up basic statistics so chronically might have to be answer enough?

      Lions Man - 2011-10-04 09:55

      The problem among the whites in this country and particular us Afrikaners is that we don't stand together and we don't stick together. Its happened over and over again.

  • Honest Dude - 2011-10-03 08:45

    Sê hom kallie.

  • Davofred - 2011-10-03 08:46

    WEll written....Go Kallie!!!!

  • darryn.havenga - 2011-10-03 08:51

    This is a great response Kallie.

  • JimbOb - 2011-10-03 08:56

    En cue Pulp Fiction theme song!

  • Rain-Man3 - 2011-10-03 09:02

    Awesome!

  • iDubula - 2011-10-03 09:05

    Ya eish you right-wing reactionary capilistic western agent wena, how dare you use verified facts in an argument?

  • free-thinker - 2011-10-03 09:06

    this is THE best response!!!

  • Lioness - 2011-10-03 09:07

    Well put and we support you 110%

  • Sinjoku - 2011-10-03 09:23

    LOL....Is it just me or was this letter actually a delivery note for PK Adriaan Basson had comming.

  • Jillian - 2011-10-03 09:27

    Pour yourself a Bell's, Kallie. People don't seem to know or care what a civil rights movement is all about. I frequently tell people that they are free to join your organisation, be they black, white, pink or green, but to no avail. Ignorance is the most violent element in society.

  • Thami Fraser - 2011-10-03 09:38

    Whats supposed to be so great about this response???

      Crunchiessss - 2011-10-12 08:03

      Basson's statement clearly came across to the readers that Afriform is supporting and encouriging whites to still believe that they are superior to the rest of South Africans. Kallie's response explained what most Afikaners are hoping to have a pieceful and just existance within the new South Africa. Basson took a cheap blow at Afriforum and Afrikaners in general.

  • Elaine - 2011-10-03 09:42

    Excellent and balanced comment! Well done Kallie. The voice of reason

  • JuliusAunt - 2011-10-03 09:48

    Black business council, black lawyers council ,black charted accountants council ,ANCYL , etc. How many of these have white members? But this is not the issue, these organisations fight for injustices against like-minded groups and the enhancement of a collective status qou . If Afriforum forms a voice for a certain group in SA let it be, but then through stones if there are also similar groups doing the same for other citizens.

  • Badballie - 2011-10-03 09:50

    Afriforum is effectively the only mouth piece white South Africans have left to voice their concerns. That said I do have a problem with loud mouth Afrikaners who think they are better than anyone else with their talk to me in my own language or don't speak to me at all attitudes. They have never forgiven the English for the concentration camps, they therefor would be stupid to think the blacks will ever forgive them for their own actions.

      24JD - 2011-10-03 10:23

      What are you on about? For any person to learn a language other than their own is not easy. Therefore I acknowledge their effort. For you to assume that all Afrikaans people are white is simply idiotic! BTW, seems to me your stuck in the past? Be careful, you’ll miss out on your future!

  • Mr.Faice - 2011-10-03 09:55

    PWNED!!!!!!

  • Zion - 2011-10-03 10:05

    I have been a member of Solidarity for 7 years and never had complaints in that regard. Yes I am English but see that most complaints and insults, usually based on utter ignorance emanates from the English speaking sector. The Afrikaner has his Solidarity, Afriforum and other to look at their interests and in my opinion that is done admirably. Those who complain the loudest and shout foule do not have any organization which they can support to look to their, the English and concomitant groups. When we look at the Malema issue it was more of a case of verbal diarrhoeal than doing anything positive about it. Always the spectre of Orania hangs over their English heads yet none has been there to prove their rantings. On the other hand there is a large contingents of Afrikaners who have little good to say about Afriforum and its sectors but it may be a band wagon issue. Kallie Kriel: The least I can say from an Engelse-boertjie is thanks and keep up the good work. There are none others who can stand in your footprints.

  • kolobe - 2011-10-03 11:01

    didnt take long to delete my comment Kallie Kriel who funds afriforum and how much do you budget on malema? empowerment along racial lines,are you addressing it?surely you cannot ignore the economic apartheid

      Spade - 2011-10-03 12:54

      Economic apartheid must be addressed by government, not AfriForum. Government and the ANC are the creators of the problems, in my opinion, by deciding to down-scale the quality of education by such a large degree. BEE has also had a negative impact, as it does not promote entrepreneurship, which is where true economic freedom lies. The true path to empowerment is good quality education. The Apartheid governments knew this, and applied it to great effect (granted, at the cost and detriment of the other racial groups). The lesson still stands, however. It is about time black South Africans stopped believing themselves to be "oppressed" by white South Africans, and started to see what the future could hold. The struggle is over. Its time to be responsible for your own future.

      CEA - 2011-10-03 17:25

      Economic apartheid is your own fault mate! If you guys can start to take responsibility for your actions you can also improve your life styles. I think the blacks must pay all whites a large sum of money, some sort of tax, to say thank you for giving them the most advance country in Africa. Best infrastructure in Africa, best education standards the past 50 years, best hospital care... etc. Be a man Kolobe and start saying THANK YOU WHITE MAN FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE. Then we can start to work together

  • Henk Zeeman - 2011-10-03 13:09

    Roer sy gat, Kallie!

  • mac-sdi - 2011-10-03 13:15

    The only reasons Blacks have organisations with the name "Black" in them is to right the wrongs of the past. I'm black and it is starting to get old. Especially when you see the same faces in these organisation plus very little results in the advancement of Black people. Lets scrap al of them and just leave Affirmative Actions in there. Coz even young white women are startig to look more black than me

  • farmworker - 2011-10-03 13:58

    Editor you can delete my comment again, but it would be wise if you explain the reason for deleting a comment. Or you just can't take the fact. Brainwashing is an art and Afriforum has mastered the art of brainwashing everyone and claiming to be a Civil rights organization. It is not what it claims to be, all it does is infuse fear in the mind of white Afrikaner. Afriforum is not that different from ANCYL president they are all the same and their motives are not different and they seek to divide the nation. It knows that by infusing fear most Afrikaner would inject more fund to support them in their dream of dividing the nation, all the do is oppose whatever the current government is proposing. They made white people to fear Julius and have some stop Malema campaign; I mean how on earth you have an organization dedicated to fight Mr. Malema. It is time white people wake up to Afriforum, it is time they ask Afriforum to declare the money and resources they have spend to these course. And also declare how much donation was received and stop taking our Afrikaner brothers for a ride. I checked their website and is all written in Afrikaans which is not a bad thing but I could not go through their site to view what they are really all about.

      kolobe - 2011-10-03 14:03

      the love deleting black comments, just like afriforum

      CEA - 2011-10-03 17:37

      Farmworker if I were you, I would think of starting to support Afriforum, because if malemas policies and points of view were accepted and implemented you are looking at another zimbabwe, and before you say, that is what you want, just think of how many zimbabwiens is living close to you, might I point out, Black zimbabwiens, Afriforum is not just fighting for white and afrikaner people, but for the well being of this country. Let me just point out the last fact for you, the people in zimbabwe who was effected the most by Mugabes policies and views was the poorest of poor, the whites they put of their farms left zimbabwe with nothing, but somehow most of them is working again and is making sure their children will get an education. The reason nobody has told you this before is because its quite obvious, and no one wanted to spell it out for you. Sit down close your eyes and think about it for awhile before replying.

      farmworker - 2011-10-06 11:10

      Afri-Forum is described in the media as a civil rights group when in fact, they are a right wing grouping concerned about protecting and safeguarding the apartheid privileged status of white people of our country Afri Forum has not used their civil right group status to take to the Equality Court radio personalities who have ushered racist slurs or the management of a company that allegedly forced a black woman to strip so that they could verify her sex (caster semenya). It never uttered a word when Scott-Crossley murdered Mr Chisale, a father of three, who had returned to the farm from where he had been sacked two months earlier, to pick up some personal belongings, but was murdered and thrown over the fence and devoured by the lions. Afri-Forum remained quiet.

  • MandlaSithole - 2011-10-03 15:41

    Many of Basson's valid arguments went unchallenged. This is just a weak reaction to a strong argument. I sure hoped Mr Kriel would provide factual details instead of appealing to the hearts with unfounded assumptions! Dissapointing to say the least.

      Sinjoku - 2011-10-04 09:14

      Mandla that may be true.....However that points he did challenge leaves the whole arguement created in the dustbin as he has raised concern over inacurate stats etc. I am pretty sure Kallie could of carried on and on with his responce, However a responce is not supposed to be a couple of chapters. His responce was aimed at the main points which was delivered, therefore the points not covered merely fall down as they were based on what Kallie responded to. Sort of a knock on effect. Remove 1 card from the bottom of the castle built of playing cards and it all comes down. Responce from a well versed person is not a machine gun spraying everywhere it is pin point single fire. Food for thought

      farmworker - 2011-10-06 11:11

      Afri-Forum is described in the media as a civil rights group when in fact, they are a right wing grouping concerned about protecting and safeguarding the apartheid privileged status of white people of our country Afri Forum has not used their civil right group status to take to the Equality Court radio personalities who have ushered racist slurs or the management of a company that allegedly forced a black woman to strip so that they could verify her sex (caster semenya). It never uttered a word when Scott-Crossley murdered Mr Chisale, a father of three, who had returned to the farm from where he had been sacked two months earlier, to pick up some personal belongings, but was murdered and thrown over the fence and devoured by the lions. Afri-Forum remained quiet.

  • mac-sdi - 2011-10-03 16:34

    Who the Funk deleted my comments? When i see you i'ma cut you..!

      CEA - 2011-10-03 17:44

      mac-sdi they delete comments if you are over offensive, rude or just plane racist. If no one has told you that, now you know. I am in a mood for teaching today. No need to reply its my pleasure! ps. I do see you are trying with the whole "Funk" part. Practice make perfect

  • ShadowfaxUK - 2011-10-03 18:11

    Dear Mr Kriel Please ask Mr Basson how he compiles his statistics. I am a white South African who along with 600 000 other South Africans lives and works in the UK. Please tell me that if we all came back you'd have jobs for us? He says that he goes to Afrikaaner festivals and that they all look happier than they were in 1994. That subjective argument looks pretty stupid to me compared to the number of people who have emigrated because they did not see a future for themselves in Africa. And does he think some individuals feel threatened by genocide because of the views of Afriforum or because they read the daily news articles desribing the savage murder of whites by blacks? The execution of a family in Walkerville being a prime example. If he thinks that a 50% reduction in farm murders makes eveything acceptable then why doesn't he visit the families of those 50% of those who were murdered and see how overjoyed those people are with the situation?

  • AfrikaTsoga - 2011-10-04 08:10

    I substantialy agree with Adrian but not entirely. However, I just wonder why Kallie did not respond to the "victim mentality" that subtly causes AfriForum not to reach out for black membership and coallition with other NGO's like the one Adriaan mentioned e.g Abahlale BaseMojondolo etc. This indeed would've made them appear more "unracialistic." And please do not talk about Malema here, we talking AfriForum, Malema is a topic for another day. Let's not cloud this topic by bringing into it the ANC, Government and other obviously horrid entities. Let's talk AfriForum and what they stand for! Let's dig and search into the merits and limitations of the AfriForum and nothing else. Afr!kaTsoga

      ShadowfaxUK - 2011-10-04 09:10

      It might be easier to respond to mr Bassons logic if it wasn't so flawed. He states: Did AfriForum tell its supporters that the year-on-year unemployment rate of white people was the only population group to have decreased? "Did you explain to them that 30% of adult blacks (four million people) are jobless, compared with 5% (105 000 people) of whites?" So how did those unemployed white statistics decrease? Did they get jobs through a government initiative of white job creation? I was one of those unemployed whites. I found a job overseas. Mr Basson has conveniently forgotten about some 1.2 million emigrants, mostly white, who would be unemployed if they came back to South Africa. Skewed statistics and blurred facts do not an argument make.

      VELOCITY - 2011-10-04 10:53

      Afrika, I do not get your reasoning: It's okay for this country to have Black this and Black that forums of all kinds, but it's not okay for the white Afrikaner to have his Afriforum?? WTF??

      AfrikaTsoga - 2011-10-04 10:59

      I hear your point ShadowfaxUK and it is plausible indeed but you also fail in the same way as Kallie did by not addressing the "victim mentality" as well as the AfriForum's reluctance to form coallition with other human rights groups. Well, you might argue: why don't they form coallition with the AfriForum. Wouldn't it be great if you were to extend your hand first? Both these groups may be guilty of not reaching out to each other, be that as it may, if you know the good to be done and you don't do it, your guilt is greater. Afr!kaTsoga

      Zion - 2011-10-04 13:25

      It seems that you are afraid of Afriforum. Why

      ShadowfaxUK - 2011-10-04 15:06

      Afr!kaTsonga I haven't addressed the "victim mentality" because Mr Basson didn’t use those words. He did use the word “victimhood” followed by a tirade of accusations without any valid point being made. After WWI post war many in Germany felt that they were being exploited by a numeric minority of Jews who held an economic majority in terms of wealth. An evil man exploited these sentiments and through nothing more than what we would today term “hate speech” he caused the death of millions of people. I guess if Mr Basson had been around in those days he would have accused the Jews of having a campaign of victimhood and reminded them of how rich they were. Furthermore he would have asked the Jews why they had no Nazi friends and then accused them of polarising German society.

      ShadowfaxUK - 2011-10-04 20:03

      Wait a minute. Perhaps Afriforum could form a coalition with Desmond Tutu since he seems to have just declared himself a one man minority group.

  • AJ2 - 2011-10-04 10:13

    Kallie 1: Adriaan 0

  • device - 2011-10-04 11:09

    So farm murders are down 50% according to Kallie Kriel of Afriforum.

      Sinjoku - 2011-10-04 11:59

      Imagine what could be achieved if there was an actual drive / push behind eliminating them. We could then call it a miracle. Murder anything is too high in this country, I dont really see results across the board in terms of murder, I really think that 50% is higher than it really is.

      device - 2011-10-04 12:37

      you are absolutely correct

  • EnglishBoer - 2011-10-04 13:32

    Have a look at a photo of Basson...He isnt even white, he is coloured.

  • Nawe - 2011-10-04 14:59

    Kallie Kriel, you've avoided all the pivotal questions posted by Adriaan asking why are afrikaaners excelling in this economy if they are been sidelined. The question is why?

  • malusi.ndwandwe - 2011-10-04 18:14

    Give that man a Klipdrift premium

  • Sir Eidolon - 2011-10-05 08:12

    AfriForum is a joke. They represent a rabid fringe of a minority, and have little or no support other than in Pirtoria. Please stop pretending you speak for anyone but yourself, Kallie.

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