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Chris Roper

Mr President, I presume

2008-11-05 12:19

Chris Roper

Oh oh! A black president for America. Do those white folk over there know what they're letting themselves in for?

America has no experience whatsoever in being ruled by an Afro-American (not in fact a type of 70s motor home, it turns out, but the term for somebody who can trace his lineage to a part of Africa, eg. Hawaii).

I'll bet that all over America today, good ol' boys are frantically dredging up the stereotypes they've learnt from CNN, Hollywood, and that nice South African boy who moved in down the road.

We know exactly what they'll be scared of, so in the spirit of deep satire, here's a list of the dangers they're going to believe they're facing. This one's for my buddies in Ohio.

What they're thinking

"For some reason, a black president will always be corrupt." So if there's money to be made from starting a random war and then getting a kickback from the arms dealers and merchants of death, he'll do it. And so will his Vice President. Did someone say Halliburton? I know nobody said Dick Cheney.

"Black presidents are nepotistic despots, who always favour their cronies and immediate family." It's not uncommon for a father to hand over control of a country to his son. The twit never falls far from the Bush, as we wise old elders say here in Africa?. Yep, that's elders now with extra old.

"Black presidents feel nothing for environmental issues." If there's oil in their grandmother's backyard, that grandmother is dead. As is her pet polar bear, whimsically called Alaska.

"Nationalisation." It's not a dirty word, everyone's doing it. Black presidents will jump at the first chance to nationalise their banks (or part-nationalise, as the Bush government calls it), because the hand that controls the money rocks the world.

"Black presidents don't speak English lekker." So they're an embarrassment to their country when they have to debate with politicians who can speak English, for example the French. Black presidents will say things like "Do you have blacks, too?", or "For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it."

Sarcasm aside

Okay, enough being sarcastic. And I hope you all spotted that those examples are of President Bush, who isn't black, just Texan.

Barack Obama. It's a good thing, they tell me. The first ever black president of the USA. They tell me that it's going to give hope to all Africans everywhere, with emphasis on Kenya and Hawaii. Hope of what, you ask?

Well, now we can all pull into Barack's place and sleep on the floor next time we visit America, which is a big moneysaver, let's face it. And there's going to be lots more money streaming into Africa, because African immigrants always send money home. Also, Americans are finally going to have to learn a little bit about Africa, and discover that Kenya is not what Barbie shouts out when she orgasms, but in fact a country.

It's a little known fact that it was the Mormon vote that swung things Obama's way, with that jolly church of Latter Day Saints seeing the opportunities in having a president who comes from a culture where polygamy is legal. Not to mention a culture where it's okay to take a child bride. I see a new Mormon day dawning, and the invention of a new type of hyphenated American, the AfroMormon-American.

Looking up

Already, things are looking up for Afro-American Africans. They're claiming that this is the first election where race played a part, with more than 19 out of 20 black voters backing Obama. (I know! I thought there'd be more people voting too!)

This is a slap in the face to all those Pale-Americans who've made sure that there's been a white man in the White House the last 42 times (I'm not counting Nixon, who was obviously some sort of Venezuelan). But I guess that's why there are no Euro-Americans in America. The Ground Zero for being an American, at least linguistically, is still whiteness.

Anyway, here's to the success of our American brother from another electoral mother. If Tiger Woods could make golfers hip, then perhaps Barack Obama can make politics phat, instead of the usual fatcats fatter.

  • Chris Roper blogs at chrisroper.co.za. He's a Blogger-African.

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  • ML 11/5/2008 12:30:59 PM
    Watch ur mouth or u may find urself apologising,just like Mr Bullard

    JR 11/5/2008 12:46:58 PM
    It's sad that we can't just say the USA has a new Democrat president. Let this be a lesson to South Africans - the majority can vote for a President of another colour!!!!

    Melanie 11/5/2008 12:47:01 PM
    I just find it amazing that if you have a white mother and a black father you are considered to be black. Will the world please grow up? For the same token you can call him white! ...

    jh 11/5/2008 12:50:14 PM
    man,i think some interesting times lie ahead...either he'll be the shortest serving US president(assasination from the many neo-nazi americans i have seen) or he might actually do something good,but if he is an "african"-american,well just look at africa and you'll see the picture of what'll happen there...otherwise he's just a very tanned american,thats all i see,even i'm more african than he'll ever be..And im not even tanned!!

    Play nice 11/5/2008 12:55:21 PM
    Barack Obama is in fact coloured not black! His mother is white! no mention of this naturally... Many cultures have and do still practice polygamy, interesting how you chose to insult the Mormons. My guess would be because you know the Muslims would have your head? Play nice

    JP Strauss 11/5/2008 12:56:13 PM
    Like the black dude from House(Monday nights at 21:00 on the MNet Series Channel)!

    Ultra Mel 11/5/2008 1:06:59 PM
    have dinner with you, Chris! Every night of the month! I'd lose so much weight because I'd be far too busy laughing! You're a genius.

    Johan 11/5/2008 1:08:27 PM
    This man grew up with proper education in the US! And I bet he was not exposed to as many corrupt friends as opposed to an SA "chronie". And as said - he is not even really black. Get a life and stop writing snot.

    KD 11/5/2008 1:12:05 PM
    Now sit back and wait for the lambasting , the rants and the mixed messages from those who " are confused" .

    SomeGuy 11/5/2008 1:12:08 PM
    This is pretty funny. You gotta love the definite racism that comes from all the black south africa politicians which are 'so happy' (or whatever) because USA has a black president now. (as ive read in various stories today) These politicians probably dont even know what the morals are that this guy stands for. Theyre just happy cause he is black. (But we whites are always the ones who are told that 'we must look past colour', 'your race doesnt define you' etc etc etc) HAHA; hoard of paradoxes

    Les-Maada 11/5/2008 1:14:05 PM
    "Americans are finally going to have to learn a little bit about Africa, and discover that Kenya is not what Barbie shouts out when she orgasms, but in fact a country".Bwhaaaa haaa...Hemnh!Well.."Obama is of the Arabic origin & cannot be ny Prz therefore" Vomited one American o'l lady during McCains speech at some..some...Bhwahaaaaaaa haaaaaa...! Thanks Barack "Urp" I mean't Chris!!Bhwahaaaaaa........

    Big R 11/5/2008 1:17:02 PM
    I applaud you!!! Well done!!! Well said!! What a great article!! ha ha ha...

    BT 11/5/2008 1:17:05 PM
    Good column Chris, as usual. I think the rest of the world should really just leave the poor man alone. I'ts not his responsibility to look after or change anything outside of the USA and I think it's ridiculous that all these countries expect that he will. I wish him luck - he's gonna need it.

    ChrisH 11/5/2008 1:18:13 PM
    South Africa had it's first black president over 14 years ago. Who are the world leaders now? Hopefully the USA will learn from us and realise that the rot sets in from the second one onwards.

    Big R 11/5/2008 1:20:14 PM
    Awesome!! Awesome!!! Great article!!

    arnaut 11/5/2008 1:21:48 PM
    This is a satirical piece you filistines! Besides it's taking a snipe at Bush and racists in general.

    MarcD 11/5/2008 1:21:58 PM
    Good one, nice to have a chuckle about this kind of thing when everyone is being so serious about it. Thank dog its over, and we can all go back to worrying about our own elections

    Rudolf 11/5/2008 1:22:52 PM
    Chris, still wiping the tears from my eyes! Excelent article, don't you want to run for president next year! You will have my Vote

    John 11/5/2008 1:23:37 PM
    He has been elected president and he does not even have one case of corruption pending! It just seems so unfair.

    Odette 11/5/2008 1:27:42 PM
    Chris...as predicted by your editor...WHOOOSH! That was the sound of satire zooming over people's heads. :-)

    LoudP 11/5/2008 1:27:59 PM
    "..Kenya is not what Barbie shouts out when she orgasms..". That so funny. I hope the people who read this column know what "satire" means. Good one, Chris.

    Jakkie 11/5/2008 1:29:54 PM
    At least people with some intelligence still get your columns and absolutely love them. Maybe someday all South Africans will get a sense of humor but until then, you still have a few loyal supporters buddie!!

    mxhosakazi 11/5/2008 1:30:18 PM
    very interesting that he is coloured. coloureds always want the spotlight, he is blac, do you get coloureds with a Kenyan grandmother, actually coloureds would not mention that at all....please lets not debated a pointless subject. @Melanie, no darling he is black, you are trying too hard for the association, its not gonna happen. A black man has done it!!! We are not that bad after all, give it to us, credit is due!!!

    chants 11/5/2008 1:31:16 PM
    It is amazing how many people are commenting on somebody they don't even know. Who cares what colour he is black, white, pink, coloured or green. Does it matter?...... Majority of America has voted for a new beginning, something us South Africans could definitely do with. A new beginning! It is refreshing to see at least some part of the world are in celebration during the trying time with the economy. Some positive energy might be a good thing for all those pesamists!

    Dee12 11/5/2008 1:33:29 PM
    Oh Chris you'd say anything to get us to read your column. Lets just be happy for the man, black or white. Martin Luther King must be turning in his grave with joy because maybe for once we will all be united. I back Barack Obama 120%

    thatotherguy 11/5/2008 1:33:43 PM
    My word, what a bunch of meaningless drivel. Your columns are really getting worse and worse. I hope they paid you no more than R10 for this article.

    Justice4Ol 11/5/2008 1:35:52 PM
    Another stupid, racist and derogatory article from news24. This is pathetic!!!!!chris roper you should be ashamed of yourself, you are just a crude idiot that can never change...

    Mark 11/5/2008 1:36:10 PM
    Sad I lived to see so many palefaces going out of their way to ridicule their own race and promote everyone else's. What is it about celebrities and their love of anything corrupt and immoral? Is it because they have the means to escape the consequences of their excesses?

    TB 11/5/2008 1:38:35 PM
    Should he tell Mugabe & JZ to stuff off, do not pass jail, do not gather R200 and if they don't 1 million fleas will infest their armpits. But now, they are still the Evil West and a little bit of colour will not change that now, will it?

    mlu 11/5/2008 1:39:51 PM
    Don't argue with the fool, people might not tell a difference.....just to reminder u, it is the black leaders that preached and and fought for and brought freedom that you enjoy 2day. Off course whites understand freedom too.....ha ha ha

    M 11/5/2008 1:40:18 PM
    you always manage to p1ss off the racists and religious freaks, even if you're not trying. I think that's the main reason I read your column, so that I can laugh at people like "Johan" and "Play nice".

    BOB 11/5/2008 1:40:42 PM
    What a typical black person's view. There is NO credit due to you mxhosakazi - you are not barack obama. Just because he is the same race as you it does not mean we must praise you. No-one gave the rest of the 'white world' 'credit' when the last 50 white american presidents served. Why must it be any different now????

    Brandon 11/5/2008 1:41:50 PM
    hahahaha, CLASSIC.

    Claire Bush 11/5/2008 1:46:52 PM
    Chris, you have outdone yourself. Every paragraph of this article had me laughing! Obama is a magnificent choice, he has vision, charisma, hope & he was the best man to win. I feel sorry for people who are proud because they're black & he is "black". He is coloured, he said so himself. I dont feel proud that Einstein is white - he has nothing to do with me. Dont take credit for someones achievements because they are the same race. PS Bush was a git! Ironic. Maybe I should be ashamed of my surname

    HT 11/5/2008 1:52:58 PM
    It hasnt even been a day and I'm already so sick and tired of hearing about Barack Obama's election win. We do not live in America and we have our own issues right here. Now let's not forget he has a white mother.

    Nicky G 11/5/2008 1:54:49 PM
    Who cares if Barack is really black, half-black, Hawaiian or, like Tiger Woods, a walking United Nations. The fact is the best man won! And while George Dubya was matched in eloquence only by our very own Julius Malema, Barack seems to leave a trail of inspiration in his wake when he speaks. We can only hope that our own fatcats learn a thing or two on what politics are all about and how to be a gracious servant to your country. Chris, good job as always!

    StevenMcD 11/5/2008 1:56:31 PM
    I am usually a great follower of your work but not only this a load of crap, you jump around so much that it doesn't feel like you were sober when you wrote this. Proof read much?

    Jason-bt 11/5/2008 1:57:13 PM
    South Africa must be the only country to ever exist where the majority (read: blacks) are threatened by apparant 'racist' (or something) comments by the minority (read: whites). Normally it is the minority which fights the majority when they feel theyve been the target of racist comments. Not the other way round... That is sooo funny.

    Philosopher 11/5/2008 2:00:02 PM
    All the reaction to this election proves is that association by race is as prevalent among Africans as it is among whites. The worldwide black jubilation is comparable to me celebrating wildly if a white man is elected predident of China - just because he is white like me. The double standards are pretty obvious, but that's the flavour of the age, isn't it? I will observe the next 4 years with interest.

    Giles 11/5/2008 2:05:23 PM
    They say never argue with a fool, because he drags you down to his level and then beats you with experience. the satire-immune also have the right to make their comments, it's amusing for the rest of us. Do yourself a favour and go check out the academic qualifications of the two candidates and their putative veeps-it makes sobering reading, specifically that McCain finished 494th or 495th in his class of 499 at Annapolis.

    LoudP 11/5/2008 2:06:07 PM
    Good comment Claire Bush. I think you summed it up very nicely. Thanks.

    CapeTownJunk 11/5/2008 2:12:05 PM
    The problem with satire is that it needs to be amusing. Sorry Chris, normally you nail the funny stuff, but this time... naah. This article didn't go WHOOSH! over my head, but it certainly went WHOOSH! past my funnybone. That might be why people seem to be missing the point of this piece of satire. It's just not that funny.

    bj 11/5/2008 2:20:54 PM
    My wife shouts that every time she orgasms. I thought it was because the sex was as beautiful as the country. Mmmmm now I have different suspicions. She even shouted ohhh Chad once?

    marcus 11/5/2008 2:22:21 PM
    Someone should give you a life jacket beacuse this writing aint funny, just prejudice. Shame dude.

    Eliza 11/5/2008 2:22:22 PM
    that's all it is - if you can't laugh at the world I predict a very sad world for you indeed!!! Chris this was spot on - loved it.

    Deano 11/5/2008 2:24:09 PM
    People still take this article so seriously, even though Chris clearly states "so in the spirit of deep satire". Lighten up people. He said he has no problems with Barack, he was mainly pointing out the failings of Bush. Great article Chris, keep up the good work and the laughs.

    BD 11/5/2008 2:25:41 PM
    Still laughing man. You know how to play with feelings. Lighter side of life, Seriously, the other way around

    faithless 11/5/2008 2:28:11 PM
    is an American - end of story. His campaign has been of so much more substance than the other guy and much more consistent. Its a pity that his ethnicity is much more reported. And I agree why can't he just as easily be white? 50/50. But it shows that if americans can change their way of thinking so can we...come elections next year.

    Werner 11/5/2008 2:32:52 PM
    If being elected as president from a minority ethnicity makes the US non-racist, when will SA prove its non-racism and elect a president from a minority group... What about a Koi San President?

    DJ 11/5/2008 2:37:52 PM
    Chris, Barack is in because of majority white support. And we should focus on and celebrate that. Why focus on fridge behavior? Unlike the USA, here in SA black racism will ensure that NO coloured will EVER become president of SA (let alone a whitey).

    newage 11/5/2008 2:39:01 PM
    I'm disappointed with the way some of white SAfricans still think, don't get me wrong, but why is colour always such a focal point to you people. The wealthy countries no longer care about colour and true leadership is respected and appreciated...just read Obama's message and learn a thing or two about true class!!!

    Play nice 11/5/2008 2:42:21 PM
    Does he sun burn, can you see him blush? Exactly! Regardless, I wish him all the best

    Avril 11/5/2008 2:42:43 PM
    Normally I love your articles but I think I am all Obama'ed up for today. Enjoyed the Barbie bit though! I'll have another look again tomorrow.

    Maria 11/5/2008 2:43:08 PM
    Barack has said that all that is good in him came from his (white) mother. So, should that make me proud? Heck no! I don't even know the man or his mother! Congrats to Mr Obama, but I would've congratulated Mr Mcain as well - they both ran a good race and the people's choice won. This is not about race, it's about a people's voice being heard and choice being respected. Just wish that in SA we had a true democracy as in the States - where all votes are genuine, confidential and counted!!

    Ana 11/5/2008 2:44:10 PM
    I was prepared not to comment and give him a chance until he started his story about a 106 year old black American woman being free to vote today. What or who stopped lady from doing it long before HE run for president? And people say he is compassionate and understanding to ALL. Buuu-ha!!!!

    reedfrog 11/5/2008 2:45:22 PM
    I hope everybody first read the part about a "satirical view..." very funny, mr Roper.

    mac 11/5/2008 2:46:44 PM
    Super article, Chris. Seems a lot of people skipped English class at school though, so definitions... Satire - "a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule." Racism - "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others" so did you miss the point? are you racist?

    Bob 11/5/2008 2:54:20 PM
    Once again so much emphasis is placed on the fact that he's black... All that matters is that the better candidate won... qouting a friend here "Its not the fact that Obama's black that makes his story amazing, but the fact that he didn't let that stop him." well written though, good read... just sick of lines being drawn. Especially by the media

    Gerhard 11/5/2008 2:57:56 PM
    Mnnn Johan, look up the word Satire.....

    JC 11/5/2008 2:58:03 PM
    Pity some dont understand the meaning of "satire".

    Jurgs 11/5/2008 3:03:04 PM
    haha..Good one! Question? where is our own South African Barack Obama - we need one!

    Rodders 11/5/2008 3:10:05 PM
    Chris, you are undoubtedly the funniest columnist on News24 (maybe that's why you're the Ed!) and this is yet another one of your finer musings. 'Kenya is not what Barbie shouts when orgasming', 'new types of hyphenated Americans, 'I thought there'd be more people voting too' - BWAHAHAHA!! Chris Roper for president (just imagine what you could write on the party Website every week then - TM would be sooo jealous!!!)

    Mnr Yusti 11/5/2008 3:15:19 PM
    words cannot escape the disappointment i feel seeing an article like this. No wonder the country'smoving in the direction it is. When represented with clear choice for hope,we in SA want to embrace cynicism. Young democracy,no doubt, but have the ability to learn to move fwd

    Rodders 11/5/2008 3:20:22 PM
    Dude, what are you smoking? what does Chris have to watch his mouth about? or apologise for? It's called SATIRE - look it up in the dictionary!

    Black & proud 11/5/2008 3:33:46 PM
    This column is a waist of time. I believe there's a lot of other important things to write about than showing racist ideas. Americans have spoken, and maybe you can learn a thing or two from that than what you've written here. Get a life dude!!!What's wrong with you peaple??

    Joe 11/5/2008 3:34:28 PM
    It's not his skin color, it's his policies that is the problem. He is associated with known American terrorists, he is anti-american (wouldn't salute the flag) and is a self-proclaimed racist (according to his OWN books). He is in fact a typical black: wants more for doing less, if not nothing at all. He is far left, and THAT is the problem, not his skin color. The only place where a black president is bad, is in Africa. Just look at the legacy of Mugabe and Mbeki as proof!

    sessio 11/5/2008 3:37:34 PM
    i just think that america has just shown all countries in the world that its a proper first world country and race and colour wont stop the progress of a great nation. blacks are a minority and yet OBAMA won. So it is all about progression for them which is something we should learn here in Mzansi. you dont see white americans scrambling out of the country just b'coz of a black guy in power. POWER TO HUMANITY. holler!

    jane 11/5/2008 3:39:57 PM
    what do you mean "does it matter what race he is?" ofcourse it does! i mean granted its not the be all and end all but lets not ignore the elephant in the room.thats sure its important what his political ideals are and what he can offer the people of America (regardless of race and class) as a leader but the fact that he is the first black president in a country struggling with racial issues is a big thing...a little while back he would not have been allowed to vote, let alone run for president!

    Ultra Mel 11/5/2008 3:42:18 PM
    literary genius when we see it! Sadly, the philistines (correct spelling) who read Mr Roper's columns wouldn't recognise satire (and genius) if it leaped out of their porridge, armed with an AK47. Bravo, Chris!

    Vidge 11/5/2008 3:44:49 PM
    Chris I never took you for a narrow minded Whitie, now you are proving to be as worse as the likes of Karen,Sinudeity,Juan & all other racists in News24.USA people have overlooked narrow mindedness & here in SA you just have to go on with your FILTH,no wonder SA wont change. Very disappointing indeed. You are skating on thin ice soon you will follow the likes of Qwelane who despised(I wonder why cause you are the same).

    Peter 11/5/2008 3:50:32 PM
    Eternal questions facing mankind: Is the glass half full or half empty? Is the American President Half black or Half White? ;-)

    Ant 11/5/2008 3:51:50 PM
    "Coloureds always want the spotlight"! Excuse me but are you coloured and how would you know that we want the spotlight! Get an education on our history bra...

    Oom_Kosie 11/5/2008 3:57:42 PM
    Hehehehe, it still amazes me how so many people don't know the meaning of the word "satire". (The posters called Johan and Justice4Ol, etc.) And mxhosakazi, I'm glad that you are glad that Obama won (I am too), but why do you deserve credit for it? Do I deserve credit for the discovery of radium just because I am white and Marie Curie was too? Quite a weird world-view, that!

    Lindy 11/5/2008 4:07:42 PM
    Oh, Kenya... *chuckle*

    WTF 11/5/2008 4:08:06 PM
    sessio, the award goes to you; you by-far have the stupidest comment here. Ive analysed it from many different levels, and yeah, none of them make sense...

    Dave 11/5/2008 4:08:12 PM
    I keep reading all these landslide victory things... 64% of the US electorate voted. While President-elect Obama won overwhelmingly on the electoral college vote, he actually got about 3% more votes than McCain (weird US system). Call it 33% of the electorate. It's pretty neat having a president of the US not encumbered by his colour (or a speech impediment) but it still means 66% of the electorate don't like him. Might be his politics or his colour. but for 2/3 no change

    Natalie 11/5/2008 4:11:04 PM
    Though I think you need to add a disclaimer (all the News.24 columnists and letter contributers') to the start of all you columns. "The reader is adviced that this column is not meant to be news article, but opinion expressed by the author. The author retains the right to use humor and satire that may not be understood by everyone, but hope that everyone will at least TRY to get the point!"

    Oom_Kosie 11/5/2008 4:11:35 PM
    Maybe you can get all postmodern and do a satirical column on how people miss the satire in columns. It'll be like the Royal Baking Powder tin!

    ElectroMan 11/5/2008 4:14:17 PM
    In USA; those with 1 - 100% black genes are called black, unless mixed with South Americans, then you get promoted to Hispanic. In SA; 1 - 80% black genes might usually get you the tag of Coloured, but this depends on your father's race and the shade of your skin... otherwise you might fall in the African pool. Funny enough, even Indian (or any other race) & black mix majority of the time get the black tag. This reminds me of horses & pure breds. Extremely discriminating...

    Wymzi 11/5/2008 4:15:07 PM
    ? I have a dream? Martin Luther King ?Free at last, thank God we are free at last? Nelson Mandela ?Vrystaat? White students at Free State university

    ElectroMan 11/5/2008 4:17:58 PM
    He will do fine, unless the Harvey sniper is set loose once more. He will unfortunately be played with by many politicians, but time will tell how things will work out. Congratulations to President Obama! I must say I found it extremely funny how a black commentator hissed at a presumed coloured for wanting credit... he he! Racial conflict will never die...

    seds 11/5/2008 4:18:50 PM
    I can't believe the peddling and promotion of racist ideas on news24. To think you were my pre-eminent news source! What a joke. And then you have the nerve to withhold bloggers'opinons because its only the ones with ideas that insight bitterness a and anger that get published.

    L Savage 11/5/2008 4:20:30 PM
    It is a pity you had to point out that your article was satirical, for those who lack the brains to recognise it for themselves. Even more is the pity that people still failed to see the satire. I guess satire is too big a word for many. I am very glad Obama won, because the whole world has suffered and is paying the price for Bush's ineptitude. The fact that he is not white is also refreshing because it demonstrates that the US can see past racial lines and vote on merit.

    Sandy 11/5/2008 4:21:37 PM
    Chris I absolutely had a blast reading the whole article. I will never look at Barbie and Ken in the same way either. What I want to know is where some of these idiots come from. Where did they go to school and weren't they taught satire. Then again to grasp satire you do need some form of inteligence. Also just a thought. If America (which is predominantly white) had the vision to vote for a President, never mind his colour, do we stand a chance of that happening here with our rainbow nation.

    Loren 11/5/2008 4:33:43 PM
    Please remember that in American history "Colored" meant black and is a derogatory term. When I came to this country I was surprised to hear this word used willy nilly. The correct term is "Bi-racial" not "coloured", or "african" to describe a black person. In America, a bi-racial person in the olden days, was considered "Colored". As long as you weren't 100% white, you were colored (black) and today it remains. So please don't go and use the labels you use here in South Africa.

    Lizzie 11/5/2008 4:47:16 PM
    Everywhere in the world the term "COLOURED" refers to a black person. Its only in South Africa that the term refers to a bi-racial person(for obvious reasons). In the U.S. one drop of black blood makes you black Most so called coloured people in South Africa don't even acknowledge their blackness.

    james 11/5/2008 4:48:07 PM
    Your post is so full of contradictions sessio. Like you so meticulously point out; the minority won due to a progression in the majority. So DONT implicitly blame whites for the lack of progression, the blacks are in majority here; and so therefore (according to your logic); it is up to the blacks for progression to occur. And also you say, 'learn from usa... minority won'; youre right we should learn, the minority here (whites) should win. Also, fyi, he was only announced today. ;)

    Loren 11/5/2008 4:49:34 PM
    Everything goes back to race.Does it even matter that he's an educated man, and he ran a good race.Why are people trying to justify things.Why are South Africans alway bringing things down to race.Fact is he is the very first BLACK American President.In America the word "colored" does not exist as it is derogatory.The fact that people keeping harping on an about "colored" means they want to prove that the "white" in him had something to do with his winning. The black in him won.

    Julie 11/5/2008 4:50:13 PM
    This is not the time when yr grandfathers were doing whatever they wanted with black people. It is now our time and you just can't accept that a black or coloured has brains also. You need to grow up or else go and hang up yourself.

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