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Clem Sunter

Was Michael Jackson a hero?

2009-07-01 10:54

"He was my hero." It was a simple message on a placard outside Michael Jackson's home. It got me thinking: "What is a hero and was Jackson one?"

So, for a start, I went to the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary for a definition. It was split into three parts:

1. A name given to men of superhuman strength, courage, or ability favoured by the gods.
2. One who does brave and noble deeds; an illustrious warrior.
3. A man who exhibits extraordinary bravery, firmness, or greatness of soul, in connection with any pursuit, work or enterprise.

Before answering the question of Jackson's credentials, I think it is worthwhile looking back in history at examples. Achilles was the Greek hero of Homer's "Iliad". He killed Hector in the Trojan War and was himself killed by Paris who shot a poisoned arrow into his vulnerable heel. That is according to the Hutchinson Encyclopaedia.
 
Aeneas, on the other hand, was the Roman hero of the epic poem by Virgil entitled unsurprisingly "The Aeneid". He wandered around the Mediterranean, fell in love with Dido, Queen of Carthage, before founding the Roman State. Both these men were favoured by the gods and fell within the first definition.

In their own way, they set the example for the second definition which covers both warriors and intrepid explorers. Consider England's national heroes. Boadicea was a British Queen who resisted the Romans (despite the definition women also qualify); Arthur and his knights of the Round Table repelled pagan Saxon invaders; Henry the Fifth defeated the French at Agincourt in 1415; Horatio Nelson (the greatest of them all) defeated the combined French and Spanish Fleet at Trafalgar in 1805; Winston Churchill led the nation during the Second World War; and explorers included Livingstone, Scott of the Antarctic (even though he didn't get to the South Pole first) and Shackleton.

The third definition covers a much wider range of people. Great statesmen such as early American presidents like Washington and Lincoln and latterly John Kennedy qualify. Our own Nelson Mandela is right up there with Ghandi. Great names in literature such as Shakespeare and Tolstoy, in art Leonardo da Vinci, in science Einstein, in music Beethoven are all in the hero class. Sport would feature Pele (soccer), Bradman (cricket) and Mohammed Ali (boxing). Good deeds would produce candidates like Florence Nightingale, Mother Theresa and Princess Diana.

Now comes the crunch. If Michael Jackson qualifies, it's in the third category for greatness of soul in connection with his pursuit. You might want to rule him out for his morals. But Admiral Nelson had an affair with the famous courtesan of the times, Emma Hamilton. Kennedy hooked up with Marilyn Monroe and many others. Still, you might say, Jackson's relationship with children put him in a different league.

In terms of his music, he has to be up there with the likes of Presley, the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen and Madonna. Thriller for me was a knockout album and who can forget the video that accompanied the title track? He undoubtedly brought a huge amount of joy into the lives of millions of fans around the world. In addition, he broke down the barriers for black artists in the United States.

Nevertheless, I cannot bring myself to call him a hero. Celebrity icon yes, hero no. It is very much a personal decision so I would not dispute the authenticity of the message on the placard. He or she is entitled to that opinion, I am entitled to mine.

As for South African heroes, I would put Nelson Mandela, Jan Smuts, Desmond Tutu, Christiaan Barnard, Harry Oppenheimer, Anton Rupert and Helen Suzman at the top of my list. Whom would you?

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AJ 7/1/2009 11:08:53 AM
If I had to invite people to my dinner table it would be my siblings and some good friends (perhaps the guys who invented the vaccine for cervical cancer, but that is it). You can keep all the rest for yourselves.

Carel 7/1/2009 11:09:15 AM
We also need to celebrate the "everyday heroes" - like the single mother who walks to work very early every day to provide food and education to her children. And keeps on doing it year after year after year...

winston o boogie 7/1/2009 11:11:43 AM
musicians are no heros they just have a god given talent to write catchey music, its no mean feat if you have this talent, no hard work although touring could be a bit hectic, but its all the good life nonetheless, so i think people go mad for musicians just because of the fact in how music makes you feel, i can listen to countless beatles songs and feel so euphoric afterwards, but that doesnt change my opinion of them just being musos, not heroes, but boy would i still love to have an acoustic jam with paul macartney!

Paul the destroyer 7/1/2009 11:18:30 AM
Mr. Sunter: You would agree his was a fox and not a hedgehog.

Walter 7/1/2009 11:18:45 AM
couldn't have said it better!

BLACKsoWHAT! 7/1/2009 11:20:36 AM
Don't know, what i do know is that he grew up a young and talented black boy and died a sad old white man. In terms of talent perfoms, vocals and dancing i believe he set the bar extremely high for up and coming wannabes.

koko 7/1/2009 11:24:19 AM
Interesting CLEM, but i would like to add a different dimension to this, if you look at the state of black music today, where the focus is on sex, catchy "make money" lyrics, poor dance technique and lack of general talent, one could argue that Jackson could be a Hero, for always breaking barriers and bringing music that's just as good to me as it is to my grandfather. I would rather listen to "HEAL THE WORLD" than "CANDY SHOP" and for that reason i think Michael was a Hero. (Let alone plastic surgery and prescription drugs)

Shaun 7/1/2009 11:24:31 AM
Have to agree with your definition, so glad you included Jan Smuts who seems to be left off so many lists when it comes to great South Africans, and he was so huge in his vision.Really wish we could all put him back on the stage where he belongs.

kwk 7/1/2009 11:25:54 AM
Jackson was a talented man, yes, an extrodinary talented man. But as a person he was too self obsessed and vain (particularly about his looks) to be a worthy role model, let alone a hero. I'm not bashing him alone.That goes for many other "heroes" as well.

007Boer 7/1/2009 11:30:05 AM
Gen. Kobus "Koos" De La Rey, Wolraad Woltemade, Andries Pretorius, Sarel Cilliers, Gen. "Stonewall" Jackson, George Washington.

BLACKsoWHAT! 7/1/2009 11:30:09 AM
Can someone PLS explain how his kids are white.... in terms of genetics (scientifically that is) incase some idiot wants to deliberately misunderstand my curiosity.

Marcus 7/1/2009 11:32:16 AM
I don't see how you can lump Bruce Springsteen and Madonna with the rest of the names you mentioned as they are, in my opinion, just average compared to Michael Jackson or The Beatles. It is a personal choice as you mentioned. To me he is a Hero as well not only for his music but for his humanitarian work too. In the latter regard he is probably the best there ever was, no other celebrity comes close to what he gave back to the world (in terms of charity work and donations), and that in it's own right deserves Hero status! People get caught up in his different way of life and loose sight of what he did throughout his life. We should be celebrating what he gave back rather than criticise his way of life, it was after all his own choice to live the way he wanted, as we all do.

Christo 7/1/2009 11:34:53 AM
Aeneas was a hero, but was Virgil? For me, a literary type, without question, along with Dante, Shakespeare, Blake, and many others. I look up to them as guiding lights, the stars of my nights.
I think an artist is all three kinds of hero - also with "superhuman ... ability favoured by the gods." Jackson too! (The gods often destroy those they favour as well! for hubris, for whatever - hence tragic hero. That degree of talent certainly is a double-edged favour from the gods/genetics/whatever.)
In 200 years, will we remember his music, his relationships with children, both or neither? An in 2000 years? Who knows? Did he contribute enough to human evolution?

South African heroes: Countless artist warriors for truth, for human enlightenment, for our evolution as a species, added to your list. (Miriam Makeba, Zakes Mda, Lucky Dube, Breyten Breytenbach, NP van Wyk Louw ... how can the list end?)

Whats up Doc? 7/1/2009 11:35:58 AM
Well put Mr Sunter! I suppose a part of the criteria would include the lasting (or last) impression the "hero" leaves as a legacy. Some of the heroes mentioned died for their beliefs or to a certain extent lived satisfied in their achievements. I cannot say that either Elvis Presley, Michael jackson, Jimi Hendriks, and a pletora of other mucisians achieved this last attribute. A Senseless self inflicted escape from reality and life seems to be a contradictions to the three criteria mentioned. I therefore have to say that Michael Jackson will not be remembered as a hero by me but I give credit to his contribution to music. Maybe "king of the pops" is where it should stay as not all kings are heroes

Kamogelo 7/1/2009 11:40:41 AM
Clem, everyone has a hero who may not necessarily be a warrior or politician. You rightly are entitled to your opinion. Anyone who excels in their persuasion of their talent, will be a hero to someone. We also have heroes in sport, music, films, entertainment, business, politics, you name it. You choose who your hero is.

Jay 7/1/2009 11:44:26 AM
he is no hero. he was a good singer and dancer but certainly no hero.

Cape Town Kid 7/1/2009 11:46:49 AM
I certainly wudnt add Tutu,Smuts,Suzman or Opperheim to my list but there would be a lot more and of course black in particular. MJ is a conundrum given that he WAS a trailblazer and a pioneer in his art form.The contradiction is that so many of us seek our TRUE PURPOSE in Life and for him I think he came and did just that.I think that for many of us all we want to do is to make that contribution to humanity and then exit peacefully.So he succeeded where many of us will fail. But then again, how fickle we are when we lable and judge others.What measurements do we use and do we all judge against the same criteria.For much of MJ life, he was despised.Media did a good job in building this persona and then broke it down literally and configuratively. And how many will we sit back and allow this to happen to other human beings. All of us have some very fundamental flaws.If we were perfect,we wouldnt be here. But to allow and witness such a breakdown is incomprehensible.Oh and a court of law FOUND HIM NOT GUILTY. But lets also take responsibility for assisting media in creating MJ and at least accept that we did a good job on this sorry soul.

Anon 7/1/2009 11:48:58 AM
In the Carte Blance documentary about genetics, it was found that the colour of your skin does not make you more closely related to anyone of the same colour. The genetic analysis for instance determined that Matt Githeu (a white oke ) is more closely related to the origional African predecessor that someone like George Gregan or George Smith (both black guys). There were similar results for black/white celebs in SA. Point being, that skin colour does not necessary mean you belong to a certain group of people. Your genetics could possible be more closely related to European heritage than African. I propose you go and check.

Tatyana 7/1/2009 11:49:26 AM
Wacko Jacko was undoubtedly a Hero to many judging by masses reaction wordlwide after the news of his death. As for some of the people you mentioned, the Oppenheimers for example who are German Natives their story raises eyebrows, Sir Ernest emigrated from Germany to SA and then controlled De Beers and Anglo? Does that qualify them to be Heroes? I don't think so. I think the naming of certain individuals as Heroes is very much subjective. That is why SABC 3 canned that show on local heroes a few years back.

Luna 7/1/2009 11:57:18 AM
@BLACKsoWHAT: MJ wasn't the kids' biological father. They were all fathered by donated sperm.

Miss NJ, PTA 7/1/2009 12:02:36 PM
Michael was great. I once read that he was the one who organised a concert to raise money for the Late David Ruffin's burial in 1991. He was a caring soul, who wanted to please everyone at the expense of his own life and wellbeing. I guess I am one of the few people in this planet who share same date of birth, month and year with Michael. May his souls rest in peace.

Hola

Tony 7/1/2009 12:25:34 PM
Anagrammatically apropos Boadicea, "O HER"! MJ is not a hero per se, but most certainly THE POP ICON of our times. He really did thrill us all!

Joe van Blerk 7/1/2009 12:38:52 PM
I agree with Clems list of S.A. hero's and would add Gen Koos de le Rey, a pacifist,F.W. de Klerk who changed the politics of S.A. and Harry Oppenheimer, the philanthropist. Joe van Blerk

Cartman 7/1/2009 12:45:38 PM
If he's considered a hero, then perhaps the question should be, "Do we need another hero?" Tina Turner doesn't seem to think so :)

BLACKsoWHAT! 7/1/2009 12:46:00 PM
Thanx Luna and Anon! CTK good points.

lilian 7/1/2009 12:46:28 PM
Mj a hero? Hell no, not in my books. The only heros in this country are Steve Biko, Desmund Tutu. I don't rate Mandela as a hero. He was until he sold his soul to the ANC and was very quiet on all the shinanigans of the last few years. Biko would never have sat by and kept quiet. Tutu certainly hasn't kept quiet. They always put the people first and not the party. Margeret Thatcher is a hero. She saved Great Britian from bankcrupcy. She stood up to the all powerful unions. Ki Sing Yu of Burma is a hero. She stands by her principles.As for the Kennedy's etc.... Heros don't break the hearts of their nearest and dearest.

yuvraj 7/1/2009 12:47:07 PM
@sunter. Some of the people you have mentioned in your blog are heroes because they have made a diffrence,my question for you is did mike made a diffrence I bet there is about 1billion people to answer that.

In my word 7/1/2009 12:57:50 PM
Michael was a musician and an entertainer. With that in mind.. there will be no greater and it is okay for one to consider him a hero, cause its all about how he makes you feel. His personal life, is none of my business, just remember the courts never found him guilty, the same as JZ our president..... he changed the face of music, he brought life and added so much more... that has to be the making of a hero...

@black so what 7/1/2009 1:07:27 PM
I thought the kids mothers were white shouldnt that have some sort of bearing on the skin colour then? And of course as Luna has pointed out could be they were conceived in vitro....... Am not sure at all not a fan of MJ

Desiree Tree 7/1/2009 1:13:18 PM
Here is only one hero it is the man above .He is a music legend and his music will still go on for years to come.

Kevin 7/1/2009 1:16:29 PM
Jan Smuts may have been Sputh Africa's most original philosopher (having conveived his own philosophical paradigm - holism) and our only international statesman, given the role he played in the formation of the League of Nations (Nelson Mandela is by far our best statesman ever, but cannot truly be described as an INTERNATIONAL statesman), but Smuts was a racist. Surely this disqualifies him as a South African hero. He is attributed with the first public use of the phrase "apartheid" in 1917. One of his more memorable quotes: "The old practice mixed up black with white in the same institutions, and nothing else was possible after the native institutions and traditions had been carelessly or deliberately destroyed. But in the new plan there will be what is called in South Africa "segregation" — separate institutions for the two elements of the population living in their own separate areas. Separate institutions involve territorial segregation of the white and black. If they live mixed together it is not practicable to sort them out under separate institutions of their own. Institutional segregation carries with it territorial segregation"

winston o boogie @ CTK 7/1/2009 1:17:23 PM
would you consider robert mcbride and tony yengeni as heroes?

G Star 7/1/2009 1:22:06 PM
He was my hero and based on the global grief and sadness of his passing was a hero to many others!

I think it heroic to contribute millions and millions to humanitarian work and to be companssionate to your fellow man.

We dont have any true music legends left. Now we are just stuck with the mediocre artists, lady gaga, and the rest of these over inflated celebrities.

I think the world is sad, because we know that we will never see such talent again.

Rest in peace MJ!

Clare 7/1/2009 1:28:45 PM
As far as South African heroes go, I think we should include all the honest policemen and policewomen in this country. They are not only fighting what seems to be a losing battle against crime but they have to bear the stigma of their corrupt colleagues.

christian 7/1/2009 1:29:51 PM
I think this article is flawed from the outset, as the presumption that he was a pedophile was already implied. He was acquitted of wrong doing in the courts and by law he is therefore innocent. I can take an any innocent man/woman to court and allege they are a pedophile and my allegations will be squashed because it is false, just because someone is taken to court does not mean they are guilty... Also this article is flawed in that it compares his alleged actions to something which did take place, e.g. Kennedy and Hamilton.... it aint objective reporting, it was an article loaded with a subjective point of view... although I agree everyone is entitled to their opinion... I would opine the editor should be more educated in separating facts and being objective, after all that is his job…

Jimi Hendrix 7/1/2009 1:35:58 PM
Jackson wasn't a musician, he was essentially a singer/dancer.
It's not him who played musical instruments
Officially he composed twenty nine (29) songs during his career, but Quincy Jones said: " He wasn't alone for this 29 songs because he isn't a instrumentalist, but the first idea for this songs come from himself"

But even 29 songs during a career of 40 years...seriously it's very funny.

"Dollar, Marketing"

LC 7/1/2009 1:38:35 PM
Bertha Solomon is a great heroine. It's thanks to her that child support payments are not taxed in the hands of the custodian parent.

Allison 7/1/2009 1:38:50 PM
hero. schmero. I think Clem's very clever, but all this talk of heroes is a bit silly. Yeah, of course Madiba is a hero. And so's Tutu and blah, blah, blah. Heck, I'm heroic in the right circumstances. And Clem is probably positively swashbuckling and valiant, too. Let's look within for the hero instead of celebrating heroics in others. Michael Jackson? A mesmerising performer. Talented beyond words. Heroic? Heck I don't know. And I don't care...

yashcon 7/1/2009 1:50:53 PM
..sorry fell asleep while reading this boring article,however HE was a really great performer and musician- and the amount of money he pumped into all types of humanitarian organizations UNBELIEVABLE!! Look at all these celebs today- all they know how to do is drive around in HUGE vans (killing countless polar bears) and spending their cash on bedazzled T-shirts. So...I guess the word hero can have more than 3 definitions...

Roger 7/1/2009 1:57:44 PM
Thank you Clem for a thoughtful and stimulating article. My own view is that in this age we are looking for great -or even just good- leaders who lead by example. The people whom we look up to set the tone and set the standards for a family, a community, an organisation, perhaps thousands, millions or even billions of people. When Steven Covey was asked why he thought Nelson Mandela was an iconic leader he replied "personal moral authority". Whether as a parent, a sports captain, a politician, a business leader, an orchestra conductor, an artist or a musician, ones vision, values, and actions not words, determine one's moral authority, one's leadership and then perhaps one's hero status.

mia 7/1/2009 2:02:27 PM
Pop icon: certainly. Hero: not so much. The man was at best a deeply disturbed individual, and at worst a kiddy-fiddler. Heroic?

PatcheS 7/1/2009 2:09:48 PM
Very nice personal opinion, but I must ask, why where you motivated to write something that has no real point behind it. Not your usual standard.

JWR 7/1/2009 2:12:20 PM
Will you leave Michael Jackson alone with your children?

Hero yes! 7/1/2009 2:18:29 PM
He a hero, this guy did alot for charity alone.He was humble, & loving.People tend to forget about the good things.After all who are we to judge anyone inspite of his weakness whether he done it or not but his good works stands out for me.If anyone doesn't see him as a hero than its ok atleast he tried to live his life to the fullest & he changed peoples lives not only with his talent but with what he had. May his soul rest in peace.

Nash 7/1/2009 2:20:29 PM
Hero, maybe not by definition.
LEGEND absolutely!

winston o boogie @ jimi hendrix 7/1/2009 2:21:38 PM
a singer is a musician in the way that your vocals are your instrument, singing is like playing lead guitar so no chords can be done with a vocal unless you harmonize with other vocals, but at the end of the day your voice is your instrument, in MJ`s case he would use his voice to get a melody and the instrumentalists would follow, anyway thats how i see it, wanna jam sometime?

Douglas 7/1/2009 2:35:41 PM
Look closely. All heroes are all too human.

NO HERO AT ALL 7/1/2009 2:49:03 PM
Michael Jackson is no hero. I certainly won’t miss him as a person and an alleged child molester. He was accused of the same crime twice. Now either he was as thick as a brick or he really was molesting kids. That part of him I despise and won’t miss. BUT as an artist and what he did for music will be missed. It is undeniable that he was a master musician and performer. So as a musician it is a great loss to the music industry but as a person he will not be missed. Children are safe now safe from the Jesus juice

Jules 7/1/2009 2:54:12 PM
Um excuse me, but the placard said "He was MY hero." Not.. "He was A hero". MY being the operative word here.. i.e. it's subjective. Regardless of the definition, he can still be someone's hero..

kwk 7/1/2009 2:54:20 PM
I don't think Michael Jackson is a hero, but you seem to contradict yourself.You have sportsman, talented physicians and businessman on your list purely on the grounds of their talents and personal achievements.If that is your criteria, then your criteria should certainly include entertainers such as Jackson.

kwk 7/1/2009 2:56:30 PM
Sorry, read the article again.You are not contradicting yourself.You place the great sportsmen in the same category as Jackson, with which I agree.

Lomp 7/1/2009 2:58:18 PM
Children - MJ is not the biological father of the eldest two children and the youngest one had a surrogate mother (but he might be the biological father, nobody knows!!!)

ians 7/1/2009 3:17:36 PM
Great writing Clem. MJ a hero no, a music legend and pop icon yes. Under catagory 3 lets add Bono and Valentino Rossi

jw 7/1/2009 3:19:29 PM
Before Michael Jackson there was Good music.He started off Brilliant but as Soon as the Brilliant financial geniuses got the Wiff,music Changed and became Material Driven nonsense.The Same system CLEM is a Subject of.Clem need to Remind himSelf that His System Imploded Last year allready.His Heros are being Shown up for the Imposters that they ARE.

Neil 7/1/2009 3:28:26 PM
@winston o boogie, I fear that you are very mis informed if you think that being a muso is the "easy life". The amount of blood swaet and tears that into making a sucessful music carreer is something that no one but a muso will ever be able to comprehend.

Jacksonian 7/1/2009 3:35:08 PM
The question should not be whether MJ was a hero or not; rather ask whether he should be celebrated (because of his alleged wrongful involvement with children) as an iconic pop idol (which he was) or not.

The answer should be an obvious YES!!! It is rediculous to margenalise what he did for music and the joy he gave music lovers because of un-proven, court of law absolved, allegations.

Shannon 7/1/2009 3:37:41 PM
Michael Jackson is my hero. There is just something very special about him, can't put my finger on it, apart from all good he did to the world!

steward 7/1/2009 3:42:45 PM
It is really sad that the guy is dead..In my humble opinion ,he was far from being a hero.The mere fact that he was not comfortable in his own skin does not send a good message to the human race.

Hero 7/1/2009 3:46:14 PM
Clem you are my hero......for sparking this debate & the "High road, low road" scenario which laid the foundation for many so-called modern day political heros refered to in this debate

Xola Sibene 7/1/2009 3:50:36 PM
I think you should now focus on bigger and better think as you uctually go not this nonsense

Liberian Girl 7/1/2009 3:52:23 PM
Those of you who thinks Mike is not a Hero! Let me tell you every hero have is ups & downs every human being has his/her downfall.Those people who thinks mike wasn't a hero; opinion or are just jealous & that's a fact.

winston o boogie @ Neil 7/1/2009 3:55:00 PM
you do have a point, but i specifically meant in writing a song as it comes so naturally to those who can do it, but yes i guess lots of effort is made in establishing a career, trust me i know ive been there and even though it didnt work out and was pretty strenuous at the time, i enjoyed every minute of it, i mean how many people can say that about, say, working in a factory who later want to become a factory manager, for example?

Mr Biggs 7/1/2009 4:02:44 PM
I think Micheals comeback would have been powerful.It come to mind that Mike was almost like a god to others than i am convinced he would have got alot of glory coz the tickets were sold out before he even performed.So i am sitting there thinking to myself God had to take this guy out of the coz God is a jealous God & share His glory with no man.Mike is a hero but he just couldn't cross this boundery everything has it limits.

nai99 7/1/2009 4:06:22 PM
the kids are not biologically his, the ex wife rowe or whatever her name is was fertilised with a donors sperm...hence the kids are lily white

M 7/1/2009 4:15:45 PM
@NO HERO AT ALL: I could also say, once people found out how easy it is to sue someone else based on a fictitious story and how quickly this individual will settle even if he is innocent just to get it out of his way, they would do it again and again. The courts found him NOT GUILTY. He was just stupid enough to keep kids around his after his first lawsuit. Anyways, he was a damaged soul, but I doubt he was bad at all. A hero? Nope. A superstar? Absolutely.

Kani 7/1/2009 4:28:51 PM
Jacko was a Whacko. I agree with your list of SA heroes but I'll leave Nelson's name from my list. How was he a hero? By okaying the bombing of innocent people? No, to me he is a terrorist and should still be in Robben Island... Ta.

mack 7/1/2009 4:31:16 PM
thats the problem with today's people,Clem,they use english words,they dont know the true and correct meaning of.The poster should read "Micheal Jackson - my wierdo " -but then the wierdo's would be insulted !my personal hero ?Jopie Fourie !

Walter 7/1/2009 4:33:02 PM
MJ qualifies under,'2' as an intrepid explorer, such as Livingstone, Scott, Shackleton and Armstrong, cause he also walked on da moon!

M.G 7/1/2009 4:52:09 PM
Jim Morrison said 'death makes angels of us all'and I think it is this human backward glance sentiment which sugar coats the memories people will have of Michael Jackson. He was a great entertainer and songwriter who should be remembered for that, however, his last years were clouded in bizarre behaviour and some very serious allegations of one of the most disgusting crimes imaginable, he will be remembered for that as well. A greatly talented man but a hero not.

dangerous darkie 7/1/2009 5:13:34 PM
what did he do, how did he get his skin color so lite?

Mambana Mthethwa 7/1/2009 5:18:07 PM
MJ was definately not a hero at all in my opionion is just people confuses the terms even though we can can say its his own opinion. What I know about Wacko Jacko he was talented in singing and dancing he can excel those scenirio what I acan say about is that was unique one of its kind, no one can replace him he was having a inborn thing talent you can't take it from him. I remember his song called Earth Song one day I cried when I listen to that song I don't know that got a space in my heart.Damm MJ can sing and dance 4sure. His problem was only one he did accept himself the way he was born and raised he hated himself that's why he end up going for surgere and his life a liveng hell by changing his nose and staying with animals was a fullish mistake he was suppose to support a living human being rather wasting money on monkeys. Therefore for me he can't be a hero at all.

UpToHere 7/1/2009 5:55:16 PM
Dr's made into villains by the government but the liason officer of the MEC of health with grade 12 and code 8 licence earning more than most doctors. What a disgrace!!!

http://www.kznhealth.gov.za/vacancy/provcirG17.2009.pdf

Ellechim 7/1/2009 5:58:37 PM
You are certainly entitled to your own opinion, but as author of the article you did present a rather biased view. He is a hero to billions, so who are to we judge? I agree, not your usual standard or rather unusual style of soliciting comment.

lobbit 7/1/2009 6:10:58 PM
We don't need another hero

Romeo 7/1/2009 7:02:12 PM
MJ = HERO! End of story.

Big T 7/1/2009 8:27:04 PM
Let the man rest in peace. He did some good for the less fortunate than him. That is better than some of us can do with our perfect lives. He was brave to do what he wanted to do. His music was clean and sang about making a world a better place. Ask the children of Euthopia if he was a hero or not. Ask the people he helped. How I define a hero is relative and not absolute. May the king and my hero rest in peace. Long live the king.

SP 7/1/2009 8:44:29 PM
Go to Vanity Fair's website and read Maureen Orth's 15-year-span of articles. Yes, it's a time investment and requires critical thinking skills. But you will be armed with the facts, pro and con.

If you still believe that Michael wasn't almost absolutely a pedophile, then you should continue to say so. This is America, and everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. But at least use the documented facts of the pedophilia issue to argue for his guilt or innocence.

For me, the jury is in: I love MJ's music, but he was a pedophile. Idolizing him while ignoring the facts that scream loudly about what he did to children breeds a false sense of security and credibility to this kind of criminal behavior.

To those of you who say he is innocent because he wasn't convicted: he is LEGALLY innocent. This means he cannot be LEGALLY held accountable. This does not have any bearing on ACTUAL innocence. The man who killed Medgar Evars was originally found LEGALLY innocent, too.

Was he?

Blikkies 7/1/2009 9:21:40 PM
Paedophile??

Curious 7/1/2009 9:24:40 PM
Carlos Santana is a hero, go look what his Milagro Foundation has done and is still doing for children world-wide. MJ a hero? I don't think so!

Boerseun 7/1/2009 9:41:14 PM
No politician and no freedom fighter(murderer) will ever make my list. Only parents who did their best for their childrens future will make it to my list, as they are true unsung heroes!!

Wayne 7/1/2009 11:13:32 PM
My younger daughter, now in her early twenties, as a young pre-teen was absolutely hooked on Michael Jackson whose videos she would watch over and over. It was obvious that he provided her with great joy and if asked at the time, she would probably have acknowledged MJ as her hero.
CS evokes interesting thoughts and comments with this piece. The penultimate paragraph is the one I concur with mostly. We define our heroes how we experience them and I’m sure most young kids see their mothers and fathers as their heroes. It depends on the kind of connection between ‘hero’ and admirer; generally the hero/ine provides one with a sense of well being, elation or goodness which might be lasting or short-lived.
One person’s hero can just as well be another’s villain; would it not be best for one to be a hero unto oneself? This will ultimately lead us to see the many heroes in most ordinary people we deal with on a daily basis. What positive spinoff this would have for our somewhat fractured society?

Sal 7/1/2009 11:13:38 PM
My personal opinion is that we pay our Jesters too much, be it musicians, soccer players, rugby players etc,. They are entertainers for gods sake, with the money they suddenly start developing opinions which they sure as heck are entitled to but do not have the sense to formulate properly eg. Tom Cruise, Megan Fox, Benni Mcarthy amongst others. These are entertainers not heroes, heroes are firemen, life guards, policemen(maybe not in SA) etc; people who are selfless, entertainers are not selfless, would they aspire to this if not for money and fame?

John 7/2/2009 12:53:51 AM
The only real heroe on your list in my opinion is Chris Barnard. Usually Politicians, Businessmen and terrosists are not Heroes. Heroes are normally brave people who save lives or people with exceptional talent. David LIvingstone was a heroe. You will never reach agreement here because everybody has different ideas about heroes.

Jerry 7/2/2009 7:10:46 AM
Mj can NEVER be classed as a hero. He damaged childrens' minds as to what is good and pure in life! Nevemind his contribution to music, he sounds like a woman in any case. Remember that heroic deeds are time related. During the bush war I was decorated for killing twenty black guys in Angola and Rhodesia. If I did that today, I would be charged with murder and end up ritting in jail. Hendrik Vervoerd was a hero during a certain time. Horatio Nelson was seen by the Brittish as a hero but a murderer by the French. Clem, please dont ask such difficult questions in future

Alibaba @ Clare 7/2/2009 7:56:28 AM
Clare, if we should honour the honest policeman in SA as heroes, the list of SA heroes should not get THAT much longer lol!!!

arthur 7/2/2009 8:02:11 AM
MJ no hero.a hero does not change his or her beliefs and the way he was brought.Mr Mandela and Mother Theresa are Heroes.

nicky baker 7/2/2009 8:34:00 AM
All, leave the guy alone! If he was not ur hero, then he was certainly some-one elses hereo. He was and will still be mine.

Robin 7/2/2009 8:46:33 AM
If someone wants to call MJ his hero, let him do it. Your definition of a hero vs my definition of a hero vs anyone elses definition of a hero does not warrant a run to your closest dictionary. We sometimes take things up to literally and personally in life and we try and we try to convince others to follow our beliefs? Why? To become a hero??

MJ FAN 7/2/2009 9:09:12 AM
Michael Jackson is definately a HERO!

The contributions he made to the poor! WOW!
Besides the WE ARE THE WORLD PROJECT, the HEAL THE WORLD project raised $50 million, and was donated to charity. I haven't see ANYONE donate so much.

Every artist/dancer you see today, will acknowledge the fact that they would not be the stars they are without MJ's influence. All of them copy his moves!

His ability was definately favoured by the Gods, no one could move like Mike!
He has done many noble deeds.
He has a GREAT soul. He was humble and shy, and was abused by his father.

He was and will always be my hero. any song of his that you listen to or performance you watch, will show you why he so special.

Way above Elvis and all those guys.

Miss you Mike! Rest in peace

John Maynard 7/2/2009 9:17:21 AM
I saw Michael quite a while back with his child an body guards at the animal petting park at Sun City. (IN case you are wondering, I took my own child to the petting park). After he left a little boy came up to me with a huge smile and said "I can die now, Ive seen Michael Jackson". Michael was definitely this boys hero.

Phumzile Dhlamini 7/2/2009 9:19:30 AM
A hero is someone who works towards creating a better life not only for himself but for his fellow man as well. Nelson Mandela,Mother Theresa, Beyers Naude,the Dalai Lama, Steve Biko, Dr Mamphela Rampela, Dr Zweli Mkhize are all heroes

Zorro 7/2/2009 10:05:13 AM
The greatest hero of them all is mother nature who gives life, talent, peace, beauty, love, evolution, with stillness we take for granted

sugar&spice 7/2/2009 10:07:21 AM
people can judge another but what about the people that find comfort in is music.I WILL PUT HIM AS A HERO JUST LISTEN TO HIS MUSIC AND I MEAN LISTEN WITH YOUR HEART AND YOUR WILL UNDERSTAND WHY MYSELF AND OTHERS SAY HE IS A HERO.

Chris 7/2/2009 10:16:35 AM
Clem, I loved the article, but maybe a short definition of why Achilles had the "heel". All heroes will have such a heel. If they didn't, they wouldn't be human, and that was the moral behind the mythological Hero. Sure, MJ had faults, but people looked UP to him, which, per definition, makes him somebody's hero, albeit misguided IN MY OPINION. Nevertheless, to me, a hero is somebody who puts other people first. Did MJ do this? If charity contributions totalling millions still don't make a dent in his budget, was it so philanthropic, or merely a tax dodge? Had he given away every single cent of his money to charity, then, and only then, would I consider him a hero. His music wasn't bad though.

sis 7/2/2009 10:42:25 AM
Everyone may define a hero in different ways as a results we must just accept that a person can regard anyone as his/her hero.

Roenel 7/2/2009 10:43:06 AM
Michael was a here to a whole lot of hungry kids in this world. In my eyes will he remain that hero.

His relationship with children, he has proved his innocence in court. Stop battering the man when he was completely innocent. Children can be vindictive too. Two teachers in our country lost their jobs because of children that accused them for child molestation and to find out afterwards that these children agreed that they have been ying about the molestation.

I love you Michael. Rest in peace with God You are safe now.

janine 7/2/2009 10:43:19 AM
micheal is dead! cant everybody just leave it like that!! If he wasnt a hero to you fine! but to some people he was, and no opinion or comment can change that. Leave MJ in peace now. Thank you so much!

Aus 7/2/2009 10:44:04 AM
This was a very well written article Mr. Sunter :)

To comment on some of the comments above, just because an artist sings something, does not mean they believe in what they are singing. Just because someone contributes money to a cause does not mean they care.

He was an extremely talented entertainer, no one can take that away from him, but a hero? As for me I also have to say, No hero.

Joy 7/2/2009 10:44:09 AM
I think MJ was A hero! To me, he was a true definition of the 3rd point (A man who exhibits extraordinary bravery, firmness, or greatness of soul, in connection with any pursuit, work or enterprise). If you are brave enough to stand against the whole world to be who you want to be regardless of the constant criticism that human being will throw at you, then you are a hero. If you give so much of yourself to make so many people happy and find comfort in what you do (music), then you are a hero. True heros are not measured by the amount of their wealth but by how many souls you touch... do I even need to go there? Let's stop being judgemental of one another and embrace each other's gifts and talents. Give credit where it's due. We all have goods and bads about us. There are many factors which led Michael to being who he was, including his backgroud and the fact that he was diagnosed with Vitiligo in 1986. Something most people don't know. Yes, maybe his reaction to this desease was obsessive but who am I to judge. The body will rot but what's more important is your soul. Rest in peace M.J. Let the good Lord be your only judge.

Paul 7/2/2009 10:45:42 AM
Apart from Madiba and Tutu our triple Olympic medalist Roland Schoeman is definitely a hero - no question about it.

M 7/2/2009 10:47:12 AM
@SP: So do you have facts, like evidence, more than the jury had, to prove that he was a pedophile? Yes, juries do convict the wrong people, but tell me, what are the odds? Small. See, I could just as well accuse you of having touched some kid at your house. How will you defend yourself? By giving evidence, the kids gives evidence, I give evidence. All those things are taken into account. But I bet you never even met MJ, but you "know" he is a pedophile because you read it in the "YOU" mag. Very sad indeed. I think lots of celebs get sued just to make money. I mean SP, who would sue you, you most probably don't have billions and a public image to protect.

Phumzile Dhlamini 7/2/2009 11:09:53 AM
And also Zuma,Tutu and Boesak are heroes..I would also like to thank my producer, my mom my gran.I love me i love myself..Thank you

TVO 7/2/2009 11:11:01 AM
There are many talented people out there but it is the clever marketing and "propaganda" that can make someone an Icon in the eyes of the man in the street. I respect them for their achievements but a true hero would be the person saving a life while risking his/her own.

Jeniffer Zvikwete 7/2/2009 11:18:09 AM
Michael Jackson was and remains a hero in my eyes. He demonstrated without a doubt all the qualities you mention in your definiton of a hero "3. A man who exhibits extraordinary bravery, firmness, or greatness of soul, in connection with any pursuit, work or enterprise" The world is full of talent but only a handful are brave enough to make fools of themselves trying to achieve that. Some people have a talent in criticising others and they still suck at it!! Why because it takes a special kind of person to be outstanding, and MJ was that for a lot of us. He made my heart want to sing, I am the worst dancer ever but watching him made me thinkk it was easy because he did it with ease. The world is looking for people who can give them hope and courage to do what they came here to do, not wimps who just want to sit back and attack the very fiber of humanity. People who look around to see how they can trash what someone else has achieved. Live and let live. And please whether or not those were his kids is really none of anybody's business, he loved them and that is all that matters. And they regarded him as their parent. Infact that is more than we can say for some people out there. Let us mourn a soul that is lost, someone who made the "world a better place" by being in it. His death is a blow for humanity. Watching his music videos one can see that he appreciated his fans and and besides doing what he loved best he wanted his fans to love what he did. Let the man rest in peace lest we judge you by the same yardstick. Its got nothing to do with appearance, his skin colour has faded by now but his works remain!Give credit where credit is due and stop nit-picking on everything.

Phillipa 7/2/2009 11:31:45 AM
Fully agree the likes of Smuts and Mandela are hero's. The likes of the Rupert's who made millions running a legal nicotine and alcohol cartel, no so sure....

Dianne 7/2/2009 11:33:30 AM
I agree with Jay. MJ was a good entertainer if you liked that sort of entertainment, but he was definitely NO HERO!

WLR 7/2/2009 11:37:28 AM
I agree with Clem whole heartedly with a twist. What is it with these "artists" who think they are not part of the human race and it gives them the "right" to go to the next level of drugs, alcohol, sex and attack on society's morals. Where do these people get off. Jackson - drug addict (we think), Presley - drug addict (in some form or another) etc. etc. These people started operating outside their capability and used drugs to cope on a level which is beyond their stress levels (Peter's principle?). My question them becomes why are we supporting them and/or admiring them. Society pressure? Youngsters see this cr@p and deem it the norm - something seriously wrong with that. I say forget these drug addicted society propped celebrities and focus on a guy like Pavarotti and anyone that operates in the normal social enviroment and are true role models to society - question is, can you name 5 of them..... Nelson Mandela, ... etc.

riyaaz ismail 7/2/2009 11:54:40 AM
i always make a point of reading sunters opinion.i want to respectfully differ in part here.what about our scientists,and ordinary folk who strive for years on a particular issue.people like sheena duncan,the gun free campaign,greg van minnen who for many years fought metrorail and the sarcc for better security and services on trains.these are my heros and heroines.the idea must be within the ambit of joe and janet soap,for then we will realise a more equitable society.

andile botman 7/2/2009 11:55:41 AM
HE WAS INDEED A HERO AS HE MANGED TO PENETRATEAND INLUENCE OUR LIVES INSPIRE US MOTIVATE AND INSPIRE US THROUGH HIS MUSIC. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM A MAN TO CONCIDER HIM A HERO.

Jolene Govender 7/2/2009 12:04:52 PM
Jeniffer Zvikwete, I salute you. You hit the nail on the head. A hero means different things to different people. To me, it's someone who inspires me and contributes to m life by making it enjoyable and MJ was that. The allegations against him were never proven so you can't judge him and as humans we are all heroes and are flawed as well. MJ...may you rest in peace now away from the cruelty of this world.

danny de wet 7/2/2009 12:17:24 PM
Great article - invoking interesting comments. No mention of Bob Dylan tho, who many rate as the greatest living musical genius (in my collection I have books written about "Dylanoligists" - people who study his work/life).

He is justifiably called "the voice of a generation" and a there is a wealth of articles and books that purport him to be "the man who changed the world".

Dylan marched with Martin Luther King, performed after the famous "I have a dream" speech and was the instigating force in the release of Ruben 'Hurricane' Carter.

While filming 'Help', John Lennon wore a 'Dylan Cap' as a tribute and is quoted as having said "I am in awe of Bob Dylan."

Over four decades artists have complimented his songwriting - his songs have been recorded and released by modern music giants like Jimi Hendrix, U2, Bruce Springsteen, Elvis Presley, Billy Joel, Eric Clapton, Guns 'n Roses, Johnny Cash, The Rolling Stones, Van Morrison, Pearl Jam, Stevie Wonder, Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker, Tina Turner, Bryan Ferry, Nina Simone, Jerry Lee Lewis....recently James Blunt, My Chemical Romance, even Avril Lavigne!

The Beatles sang "Blowin' In The Wind to a laughing Maharishi in India. and Springsteen performs Dylan songs in concert. When 'The Boss' inducted Dylan into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, he singled out "Like A Rolling Stone" (Bob's best song, in my opinion) saying ‘I was in the car with my mother listening to WMCA and on came that snare shot that sounded like somebody'd kicked open the door to your mind.'

The only thing Michael Jackson and my hero have in common is "We Are The World.". Dylan disagreed with the line "we're saving our own selves" he said he didn't believe that people could do that (save themselves)....seems Uncle Bob was right after all!

Denise 7/2/2009 12:31:22 PM
Coming from SA, there are so many unspoken heroes in our country. People that gave, are still and would have given their lives for a worthy cause - these to me are heroes, would MJ have done that?? MJ was an unbelievable performer, one of the best....but a hero? No.....
However, he was and always will be one of the best performers in the world.

Great article!!!

hank 7/2/2009 12:37:00 PM
Helen Zille will become the next hero of the SA people, just a matter of time.

What's up Doc? 7/2/2009 12:48:14 PM
Me again. Clem is this actually a survey to see how much free time the South African Internet Browzer has? What I love about us South Africans is the incredible sense of humour but I hate the fact that we can argue the trivial whilst being the worlds most convoluted spectators

stan 7/2/2009 1:03:13 PM
Michael Jackson was definately no hero. He was certainly ahead of his time in terms of music, and redefined music forever, and deserves to be forever known as the King of Pop, but to say he was a hero is way over the top as I don't quite remeber him putting his life, career and body on the line for someone else.

Deon 7/2/2009 1:05:16 PM
Ask yourself this question, Whay in that famous 2001 interview with Michael Jackson, were parents allowing their teenage children to stay at the Michael Jackson ranch, Easy one they wanted their kids to stay there to get Michaels cash, or accuse Michael of molesting their kids to get a settlement. I think that Michael had an inapropriate relationship with children, but his naivity played into the hands of his accusers parents to go after his money. Why on earth would any parent allow their kids to stay with Michael. By the way his kids are not biologically his.

Jonathan 7/2/2009 1:12:54 PM
Michael Jackson a hero, give me a break. He was a product of the media and the entertainment industry. Not that he wasn't a good dancer and singer but you lump him in the same bracket as the Beatles is laughable. Jaco lived a life of vulgarity and excess and I think we need to get a perspective on what contributions a person makes to society that leave an enduring legacy. I don't think Jackson's music will be remembered in 20 years time.

Telstar 7/2/2009 1:21:56 PM
Clem, I've heard people raving about you as some sort of visionary and often wondered who you were. I must say, I'm a bit dissapointed in your views.

violet 7/2/2009 1:42:12 PM
Michael Jackson is your hero aswell

whites4zuma.co.za 7/2/2009 1:45:15 PM
MJ was a legend in his time and his music will live forever, but I think that he had a weird life and all the media attention drove him crazy. Rip.

Louis 7/2/2009 1:45:38 PM
I know that it is not pc to rate white South African males, and I acknowlege Gen JC Smuts as one of Clem Suntner's heros, but I do think the world at large and South Africans in general should acknowlege FW de Klerk as the true founder of the present democracy.

Keano 7/2/2009 1:46:48 PM
I don't think people should confuse themselves. There is a difference between a role model and a hero. Achilles was a hero and still is. Nelson Mandela is a hero, some might even still regard Hitler as a hero.....

ayanda 7/2/2009 1:55:19 PM
@STEWARD, in agreement with u, he hated his skin so much that he found an excuse to make his skin white, he intentionally did not father his kids, because coz he knew the possibbility of them being black, he insulted a lot of black people when he bleached his skin.

Tebzano 7/2/2009 2:17:48 PM
A hero, like beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. MJ was my hero. Jan Smuts is not my Hero. Chris Barnard is also not my hero. and they both fail on your third criteria In my opinion.The author wants to make his hero SA hero, but has issues with people who consider MJ their hero. Hypocrisy at its best. Its all personal.

Silver_Surfer 7/2/2009 3:07:37 PM
"the likes of Presley, the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen and Madonna"

Madonna?
hahaha...shows how little you know about music.
He is a legend, notice i say this in the present tense. And yes, to some he was a hero. He did alot for charities as well. What made Princess Diana a heroin? I mean, her public image was also scarred by other activites(extramarital).
The music world will NEVER be the same again. There were millions of people waiting anxiously for his new album, I mean his 'This is It' concert sold out over 700 000 tickets. A ticket every 7 seconds. I think millions will agree that Michael Jackson was a hero to the music world, and to the several charities that he has left money to after his death.

Thane 7/2/2009 3:52:33 PM
Dispite all the critics. Micheal was gifted, his talent was God's given. When I was a teenager. I used to dance like him wore his atire, infect people use to say we look alike. He was like a superhuman. His family should proud to have had such a gift. I was privilage to watch a series on TV dedicated to the Jackson's family, Lattoya, Jeanette, Jamaine, Micheal and their elder Brother Titto, how their father used to train them sing, till Micheal saw the gay who use to be called Waco-Jacko and Micheal started to admire his dancing style, that why he use to be called "Waco-Jacko. Their father achieved what he wanted, they are all gifted family. His hits will last forver. Like others.

Lucky 7/2/2009 5:42:48 PM
@Kani, It shows how little you know about anything.

Johan 7/2/2009 10:42:35 PM
Mandela a hero not according to me he has to much blood on his hands

Eug 7/3/2009 10:31:26 AM
Michael rock. There is only good about Michael. Why would you judge him because of a children story where most one's are unsure.His singing about the world, and for the world. Well, if the things that Michael did, is not enough, then you will never be happy.He was one of a kind. There will never be a Michael again. Pease to him.

Silver_Surfer 7/3/2009 10:55:59 AM
Before some of you uneducated people carry on about skin bleaching. Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6xJlyJgfS8&feature=related

There is noo such thing as skin bleaching. Michael had a disease you dim wits!

Yvonne 7/3/2009 12:16:04 PM
Michael Jackson was a human being the same as the rest of us,he was an intertainer it's what he loved to do and was his means to making a living. Those of you who are judging him shouldn't.As a christian I say to Michael I love you like a brother and may you rest in peace.As for the family my prayer's are with you all. God Bless...

timmy 7/3/2009 12:36:47 PM
I have to agree with Silver_surfer here.
A hero, in my eyes, not in any dictionary or encyclopedia, is someone who goes out of their way to help those who need help. MJ was doing his bit for those in poverty before the likes of Angelina and Madonna even started thinking about helping "the poor children of Sudan" etc.
People call Elvis and John Lennon their heroes, mostly because of what they did in the music industry. MJ has still got the number 1 selling album OF ALL TIME. 109 Million copies sold, the closest to that is only 45 million. Is there ever going to be any contest to that position? I highly doubt it... The only album that could come close would probably be a Tribute Album for MJ himself.
With all this in mind, if he slightly bettered the lives of 109 million people who bought that album (NOTE: Im excluding the thousands, if not millions of peole he's helped through charities) is that not "Hero Criteria"?
Michael Jackson, icon, legend, HERO
RIP

Lily White 7/3/2009 1:58:27 PM
Jan Smuts??? a South African hero??? why? To be a South African hero you need to be deserving of that for ALL South Africans, not just the white minority! From Jan Smuts wiki page - "...advocated segregation between the races and was opposed to the unilateral enfranchisement of the black majority in South Africa" To be honest I feel that MJ went through his identity crisis because of racism and the underlying belief that nothing good can be black. Let the man rest in peace!

Owie 7/4/2009 12:13:44 PM
Music has lost one of the most gifted artists ever. A hero to many. Yes he had his personal issues but on stage, nobody performed like him. Nobody danced like him. Nobody sang like him.And nobody did the moonwalk like him.

RIP MJ.


(I hope you not pulling an Elvis or a Tupac on us.)

Just Me 7/4/2009 2:20:13 PM
I am a first generation coloured with a black mother and white father (and yes they are married). My 3 sisters and I all have light skin, hair and eyes. If we do not tell people we are coloured nobody would geuss that we are not white. I know Michael was not the father of those kids, but it is possible that the father is a black man.

jim 7/5/2009 6:14:44 PM
@BLACKsoWHAT. MJ's kids are white....just like he wanted to be.....make's you think, doesn't it?

tommy 7/5/2009 6:17:24 PM
Jan Breyenbach is my hero. He created the Bats, Recces and 32 Battalion. These units kicked the butt of every scum-communist that tried to turn SA into just another communinst state!

Maggi 7/6/2009 3:46:00 AM
Michael, musician, talented very but that is as far as it goes. Heroes, Winston Churchill, Mahatma Ghandi, doctors without borders, The Red Cross

Shantel 7/6/2009 2:15:58 PM
MJ, a true hero. It's time people stop looking for excuses and ways to put him down. He has suffered too much alive, lets not put his family through the same now that he is gone. MJ rest in peace, may your memory forever live on.

Woofie 7/6/2009 3:53:20 PM
I am a geriatric, but have been an MJ fan since BEN in the 70's. He was one of the most talented individuals on the planet. But HERO? Not in my definition of the word in it's logical and intended meaning or interpretation. A hero performs or has performed a heroic deed of some type, physical or metaphorically. Did he do that? Methinks not. I am still an avid fan, he was indeed an icon, right up there at the top, and his music will live on through eons, same as The King of Rock. Go well my man.

khosi 7/6/2009 4:14:06 PM
you're all haters leave MJ alone He was (is) a great entertainer who transended all ages. I am 48 i enjoyed him as a kid my kids are teens & still enjoyed him. Each that!

MJ 4 LIFE 7/7/2009 2:42:54 PM
no matter what the media says, the courts, or the people, they will always put someone down to bring them on their level. Give the man his credit for what he has achieved. certainly no ordinary childhood but an extraodinary life - created by himself to give to us what we wanted. Definitely a hero it is because of him that you get your bread on your table mr columnist, oh and also becauise of your very same kind that he is dead today. he's the hero, you the villain isn't it so?

Anon 7/7/2009 2:57:25 PM
@ khosi 7/6/2009 4:14:06 PM "i enjoyed him as a kid my kids are teens & still enjoyed him" was that when he invited you over to Neverland, probably enjoyed you more when you were a kid.

eju 7/10/2009 5:46:25 PM
Was MJ a hero? Yes... at least to some. Heroism is partially a matter of perspective - Achilles was a greek hero, but I doubt whether the trojans shared that view. Nelson was a hero to the british, but whether the french and spanish agree are doubtful. Ali... if you like boxing. The Dalai Lama, unless you are the Chinese government. Jesus, if you are a Christian.
And in true political correct fashion, the third definition of a ‘hero’ suggests: at some level, you are ALL heroes…
'True' Heroism is probably that which succeeds in crossing all divides, whether cultural, religious, racial, political, time, taste, etc... which by definition means that it will probably have to be independent of culture, religion, race, politics, etc. Combine an indomitable will to overcome staggering odds of failure with a humanitarian effort that benefits everyone across the eons, and you have your 'ideal' Hero. And then still you will have the debate that the person was, yes, great and / or exceptional, but a hero!? In the meantime, I will continue being my son's hero (or at least until he is old enough to watch Spiderman...)

Lou 7/10/2009 8:14:58 PM
No, Clem, Michael Jackson was no hero, but then neither were the majority of your succesful capitalist types. Jan Smuts, as Roy Campbell put it, was "the saint of the Bondelswarts" among other sins. Heroism is hardly commensurate with how welcome one would be at the Queen Of England's table... Delarey, yes, what a pity about his latterday fanclub. So also countless other resisters - from Samuel Maharero through Moshueshue and Cetshwayo; all the way until and beyond Archbishop Tutu, who manages to piss off those in power whichever sort of self-interest they're pursuing.

Jackie 7/14/2009 1:01:10 PM
Anyone who helps someone else, not once, not twice, but more times than I think the you or I could, to me is a Hero. Again a personal defination. I don't care what the dictionary says. I think Michael Jackson was a combination of many things, but we forget he was also human. We expect a man of his status to be perfect, almost God like and we forget that he had his issues and then we are suprised and extremely judgemental when it is determined he is not a saint. But he certainly did more for this planet than you and I together. Yes he could afford it, but he also had a softer side for the weaker, less fortunate souls. Something alot of us don't have today. I don't see how you can compare him to anyone else. I think he would have made a good politican. At least people would get fed. Does not mean much to you and me, because I have just had lunch. Michael Jackson "does not come around once in a lifetime, he comes around once." Not only did he set the bar for entertainment, he set the bar for talent. I don't think we will hear anyone with a voice like that for many decades to come. The question was he a Hero, by the defination of the dictionary, possibly no. But he certainly shook our earth's axel, and is a positive part of so many lives and that, in my opinion, is a life successfully lived. RIP Michael, we will miss you and remember you for as long as time will allow.

DN 7/21/2009 11:32:35 AM
Hi, Interesting article though don't quite agree. Here is why... According to the definition you gave: 1. A name given to men of superhuman strength, courage, or ability favoured by the gods - to put up with the media report and tabloids for forty years (almost all of which slammed and trashed him), i think, definitely requires superhuman courage and strength which can only be given by god 2. One who does brave and noble deeds; an illustrious warrior - being in the guiness book of world records for the largest amount of donations by an artist i think qualifies as a noble deed. In addition to that, continuing to care for and look aftre children publicly aftre two child molestation cases against him also qualifies as brave. The media continued to hound him but he stood by his love for children, even though it looked bad from a PR point of view several times. 3. A man who exhibits extraordinary bravery, firmness, or greatness of soul, in connection with any pursuit, work or enterprise - Again i have to mention his active involvement with real issues and his initiatives like 'America for Africa', Heal the World Foundation and awareness about world environment issues. He has consistently drawn the world's attention to these issues though his work, songs and sometimes interviews. I think this exhibits 'extraordinary bravery, firmness, or greatness of soul, in connection with any pursuit, work or enterprise'. Wouldnt you agree? Regards

anne 10/26/2009 9:26:04 AM
Is Mr. Jackson a Hero... by the third catagory. Definately yes. go to this website and read about all he did for humanity.
www.independent.com/news/2009/jul/09/michael jackson
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