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Colleen Figg

The seatbelt saga

2009-04-15 15:01

Colleen Figg

Anyone who travels regularly will be familiar with what happens when you board the plane.

Once the puffing and panting and hefting of suitcases and other storage items into the overhead spaces is complete, you sink with a sigh of relief into your seats.

Then the trim, pretty little air hostesses come out and start the "emergency and other procedures" demonstration with how to fasten your seatbelt. I always admire their make-up and uniform at this stage, wondering why it is that I can never get to look quite so wrinkle-free and foundation-perfect.

Last time I flew back from Cape Town I was seated next to a very voluptuous lady, twice or thrice as voluptuous as yours truly; and she was terribly anxious about catching the hostesses' attention so that she could order a seatbelt extension (for the fuller figure).

She was in the window seat and I was on the aisle, but things were not going according to her satisfaction because she tried to rope me in to catch someone's eye.

Getting attention

When I wasn't playing, she leaned her considerable bulk over me and waved furiously until an hostess came along and gave her a seatbelt extension - the mere sight of which made her as happy as a pig in excrement. [Although who says pigs are happy in manure, they may well have been oppressed and marginalised and made to feel they are happy when in fact they are not?]

Once she had her extension, we embarked on Phase Two of the Seatbelt Operation, ie getting her bulk out of the seat so that she could find the seatbelt under her posterior and then connecting it to the extension and closing it with a click that coincided with sighs of relief from both her and dear old moi.

This coincided in turn (thank the lawd or else the lady may have come over all queer) with the plane beginning to taxi down the runway and us all being told to fasten our seatbelts. And this, dear reader, is where I seriously come undone.

I mean: why? What is a seatbelt going to help if the plane's going down? The thing fastens across your lap and has extensions and pulls tighter to the right and unfastens if you lift the flap: but in the name of all that is demonic - what the deuce will the blasted thing DO when the plane is nose-diving some 30 000 feet to earth????

And this simple logical puzzle seems to faze no one but me! Once the plane leaves the earth the hostesses trip prettily past, inspecting to their left and right to see we've all got the things fastened as we should have - and rush to help anyone who may still be battling with this crucial piece of survival gear.

The inflating of the life vests and the assuming of the brace position are zipped through with a minimum of fuss and time when the hostess does the demo, but the intricate, may I say arcane, workings of the seatbelt are covered in minuscule detail.

'I seek enlightenment'

I am sorely tempted to stop one of them halfway through their lovely demo (complete with well manicured and painted nails flashing expertly to the left and right of the belt) and ask them what the blazes this little piece of canvas and metal does at the crucial moment.

As I say, I seem to be alone in this because everyone else fastens his belt with a marvellously reassuring snap and clink of metal and falls to reading the paper or the in-flight magazine with blithe reassurance that since he has his seatbelt on, nothing in hell is likely to befall him.

It gets me every time! I can't stop thinking about it!

Arrrggghhhh!!! *Tears hair out and writes to SAA about it*

Do explain, anything you know, dear, dear reader... I seek enlightenment!

- News24


Seema 4/15/2009 3:13:18 PM
Turbulence

Megs 4/15/2009 3:14:24 PM
Colleen, colleen...are you dored!!?? Could you really not find anything else to right about? Dumbest article ever....!

Angel 4/15/2009 3:15:37 PM
My centiments exactly, I cannot agree with you more, further on my question is how many planes crashed into the water and actually stayed in one piece to enable the people to use thier life jackets?(one exception to this statement ofcourse the plan that landed in a river somewhere in America)

Not Ms Figg 4/15/2009 3:15:51 PM
Have you ever heard of turbulance??? As for your fellow passenger... give her a break! Judging by the way you are going on here i would much rather spend my time next to her than you.

Charles 4/15/2009 3:15:56 PM
The seatbelt is there to stop once, twice or thrice voluptuous ladies from flying around the inside when it's nosediving 30000 feet. It's to protect the other passengers.... :)

R.Nash 4/15/2009 3:16:52 PM
If you hit a bump and that fat lady bounces up and falls on you,you will realize what the seat belt is for.

Don 4/15/2009 3:18:13 PM
I agree with your sentiment - fastening your seat belt is not going to make one iota of difference when hitting the deck after falling 30 000 feet. But that is not the point of fastening it. Planes unfortunately are prone to the effects of unexpected turbulence or 'air-pockets' that may cause sudden movement. Anyone not wearing a seatbelt is likely to be thrust up against the lockers above, or catapulted around the cabin, with an equally sudden return to whatever is then underneath them.

Michal Malek 4/15/2009 3:18:14 PM
In the case of the 30 000ft 600km/h plunge, yes, the seatbelt will do you no good. The seatbelt is in a more psychological tool with some practical uses. Its designed to encourage the customers to stay in their seats. Why you say? This will prevent irritation in the isles with trolleys etc and people wandering around makes others nervous. The seatbelt is also extremely useful in times of heavy turbulence to prevent you from literally flying out of your seat and injuring someone.

crash 4/15/2009 3:18:26 PM
The main reason for the belt is to keep you in place while you hurtle towards immenent death, its crowd control you see, just like the little masks that pop down.

Stewart Wood 4/15/2009 3:19:05 PM
The belt is not really to save you when you hit mother earth with a resounding crash at x hundred mph! Nothing will do that! But it will keep you from flying up to the ceiling and breaking your neck (or that of the person you fall on) in heavy turbulence!

Cilliers 4/15/2009 3:19:06 PM
It is not about you, it is about the weight distribution of the plane. If everone had their seatbelts loose, and the plane has to make a sudden maneuvre (like I experienced once on a plane between San Francisco and Salt lake city) then everyone would fly out of their seats and end up as "loose" baggage, making the plane extremely difficult to control. So, if you would like to give the pilot any chance of landing the plane when something goes wrong, rather fasten your seatbelt.

malcolmx 4/15/2009 3:19:09 PM
If the plane suddenly drops a few hundred feet in turbulence, you could quite easily end up on the ceiling and then hit the floor a split second later with the fat lady on top of you. Good enough reason for me to wear a belt.

psycobabble 4/15/2009 3:19:47 PM
about those slim air hostesses (SAA) Colleen.My head was bruised after being bashed by some serious double hip waddling up and down the aisle on my way back from Oz recently and her attitude was "I dont give a shit because you will be discriminating even though you paid for my extra bulk.On the seatbelt issue.Ever been in a plane caught in a serious wind shear?.Not having the seatbelt on can result in serious injury by jolting your head on overhead storage bins.

snoopy 4/15/2009 3:20:34 PM
Colleen, dear, its not if the plane falls out of the sky, but if you hit turbulence and the plane drops 10 feet in a second, you are going to crack open your skull on the roof of the plane. Jeez. Are you bored to come up with this rubbish? Maybe you should rather keep yours unfastened though.

none 4/15/2009 3:20:51 PM
Turbulence is one obvious reason.... Maybe emergency landing as well? Google for the rest.

P Basson 4/15/2009 3:21:40 PM
Have you ever seen the injuries of a person who's seatbelt wasn't fastened, due to severe turbulence? How many planes 'nosedive from 30 000 feet?' Yes, I also pull my hair out - at articles such as this one...

jb 4/15/2009 3:24:40 PM
Answer: It stops you from flying around while you are falling. This has many benefits...

Leon 4/15/2009 3:25:43 PM
The seat belt is there to protect you from turbulance and minor "bumps". Believe me, if ever you have to fly through a thunder storm, you'll know what I mean. That is also why they suggest you keep in on during they flight......so that you don't bump your head every time the plane hits an air pocket (if that is the correct term)

jonathan 4/15/2009 3:25:45 PM
this dumb insistence on fastening your seatbelt -in a plane, not a car, mind- really annoys me as well. I have done some research (too much time on my hands) and a human body is almost vaporised from the impact of a plane's terminal dive...they might, if you're lucky, identify you with the aid of DNA testing...so tell me, when we're headed straight to our imminent death at several hundreds of km's per hour.....will a seatbelt help? I THINK NOT.

@@@ 4/15/2009 3:26:23 PM
I think that while wearing a seat belt may not protect you when the plane nose-dives 30 000 feet to earth AND crashes, if you are not wearing your seat belt and the plane nose dives you will fly out of your seat and injure yourself and possibly others, even if the pilot does manage to stabilise the plane and prevent it from crashing.

Charles 4/15/2009 3:26:34 PM
I will regret giving a real answer to a desperate columnist, but will try anyway. There are things which can and occasionally do happen to airliners. Turbulence in cruise has severely injured and killed unrestrained passengers and crew before. Things can also go wrong during take-off and landing, resulting in an aircraft leaving the runway and partially breaking up. Being strapped in may prevent serious injury in these cases, and you just might escape to write more drivel.

Fizz 4/15/2009 3:26:39 PM
that the seat belts are there to keep you in your seat should there be any bad turbulance, and not to save your life should the plane fall out the sky. Have you ever been in mid flight when unexpected turbalance is hit. It throws you around like a rag doll and will cause injuries. It is also why they make sure the luggage compartment above you is closed. I dont see how this doesnt strike you as a possible reason for the seatbelt.

Basil Foxworth 4/15/2009 3:27:35 PM
It is very clear why they have seat belts. If a plane is crashing, there is nothing that is going to save you. The purpose of the seatbelts are to avoid lawsuits. Lets say the plane experiences turbulence, or has to swerve or brake for something on the runway, and Smartypants doesn't have his seat belt on, he might just leave the airplane missing a few teeth or at least a few bruises.

Daniel 4/15/2009 3:27:59 PM
Well basically, it is not the fall that kills you during a crash usually as most crashes are controlled. It is actually the fire that kills you and unfortunately the impact often breaks your legs which results you in dying from smoke and fire. Informative I know. D.

Seldom Traveller 4/15/2009 3:29:23 PM
Perhaps its to keep you from tumbling inside the craft as it plumets: picture a kitten in an industrial tumble dryer, instead your remains can be identified by the seat you were in and not from your eyeball scraping's from off ceiling..!?

Frank 4/15/2009 3:29:43 PM
The reason for the belt is quite obvious. If your plane decide it's time to loose a bit of it's altitude in a less than controlled manner, your body feels otherwise and wants to stay where it is. Hence you get knocked senseless by the overhead compartment and drown in the ocean below. That is if you survive the crash in the first place. There's nothing magical about the belt you know, it just keeps you in place to assist you in kissing your behind goodbye easier.

Lenore 4/15/2009 3:29:44 PM
when there's turbulence :) When the plane is busy hurtling to the Earth (or sea), the seatbelts are quite useful in stopping random human bodies from flying about the cabin, thereby causing more damage and panic. I do think it would be an interesting thing for Mythbusters to test as well though...

Chris 4/15/2009 3:30:45 PM
Planes don't go from 0 feet to 30k ft instantly.Planes don't generally plummet straight to the ground either.IF at 30k ft, the engines fail, it can glide quite a distance, but the engine fails shortly after takeoff (see recent incident on Hudson),there's not enough height to glide back to the airport,the plane now has to land in a field/river, and there won't be time to tell the passengers to quickly fasten their seatbelts.Is that so mysterious?

Al 4/15/2009 3:31:25 PM
I used to wonder why airlines bothered with lifejackets under seats, for the same reason. It all seemed a bit pointless until the Hudson river incident, and I had an "Aha" moment. It may be the same with seatbelts - if there's the smallest chance that they could save someone, then it may be worth it?

Andrew 4/15/2009 3:31:59 PM
The seatbelt will do nothing for you falling from 30,000 feet, but it is there to stop you from catapulting and crushed into the seat in front of you should the aircraft come to a sudden halt on the ground - that is why you only need to wear them on landing and take-off Also its a good thing to wear it in flight to prevent your body from smashing your head into the overhead lockers or falling back down on to the seating when the aircraft does a sudden dip in the airpockets

marc 4/15/2009 3:33:06 PM
I hope you don't get paid for this drivel.

Dragonfly 4/15/2009 3:33:36 PM
Should the plane start to fall at a rapid speed and you do not have your seat belt on the law of gravity will make you float off your seat and into the air - should the pilot be able to correct whatever is wrong then you will fall very sharply into other people or your seat. Injuring yourself perhaps fatally. I have also experience turbulance so bad that without my seatlbelt I would have been flung off my seat - maybe giving me cause to sue the airline for not telling me to wear the seatbelt.

Ray 4/15/2009 3:33:44 PM
I have wondered the same on many occasions Colleen, I can only assume that with the plane in a nose dive, should passengers not be strapped in they will all very quickly make their way towards the captain who I'm sure doesn't want his sandwiches squashed by 200 odd people!!

ken 4/15/2009 3:34:07 PM
makes for change, 99% of this world seeks entitlement!

Dragonfly 4/15/2009 3:35:19 PM
I have also experienced a flight landing that was so hard that if I wasnt wearing a seatbelt I would have hit the seat in front of me - once again injuring myself.

Jason 4/15/2009 3:37:31 PM
Well, it's not going to help you much if the plane hits the ground nose first but it will stop you from head butting the seat in front of you during turbulence or a bad take off/landing. Unless you want a broken nose or concussion I suggest you keep it on.

anamarie 4/15/2009 3:37:39 PM
It is so the bodies do not go flying all over the plane. The seatbelt will keep everyone in place. It will most definitely not save lives if the plane nose-dive crashes, but could help with bumps and bruises if you get flung around in bad turbulence.

Paddy 4/15/2009 3:39:07 PM
Colleen, please bear in mind that an untethered human, whether in a car or a plane, becomes a dangerous projectile in the wrong situations, and can easily decapitate or injure other passengers.

FrequentFlyer 4/15/2009 3:39:12 PM
....is only so you have the best chance of preserving your teeth intact, so they can tell your charred, smoking remains from the next passenger's. However, seatbelts do help in turbulence and more importantly, they might, just might, keep your charred, smoking remains in roughly the place the investigators might expect to find them.

Fred 4/15/2009 3:39:27 PM
Whilst the standard seatbelt will not be much help to a passenger in the unlikely event of an aircraft plummeting to the ground from 30,000 feet. The same aircraft is much more liable to encounter a minor incident when taxiing. Incidentally at speeds that would cause sensible passengers in a car to belt up! Once airborne the likelihood of turbulence, which can throw passengers against the roof of the cabin, is not insignificant. By all means slacken the belt when cruising altitude is reached. Sensible passengers keep it on. If you want to be daft, it is your life, neck, back and legs etc.

Ray 4/15/2009 3:42:01 PM
Yes, if you nose dive straight into the earth nothing will save you but if the plane suddenly drops you will stay in your seat. Also in a minor crash you will not be thrown around the plane and possible break your neck or crash into someone else and injure them. News24 please check on your columnists before posting this type of drivel.

JT 4/15/2009 3:42:31 PM
I was on a flight where clear air turbulence made the plane dip dramaticaly. Everyone not wearing seatbelts hit the plane's ceiling and then the floor..repeatedly. Needless to say the idiots not wearing their seatbelts were carried off the plane on stretchers with broken legs and arms.

Telstar 4/15/2009 3:43:10 PM
This is a ridiculous question. Why do you have it on when you are in a car? What good does it do when you roll down an embankment? Try not having your seatbelt on when you experience severe turbelence.

Notsoignorant. 4/15/2009 3:43:26 PM
The seatbelt is there to make sure you don't break that neck of yours when you hit an air pocket and the plane drops 200m. I would also suggest you ask the passengers that survived the Hudson water landing what they think of their seatbelts. Reminds me of the old maxim - "Keep your mouth shut and people wonder if you're stupid, open it and they know you are."

Baker 4/15/2009 3:45:32 PM
Its for the turbulence... when the plane gets shaken around really badly, you can get dumped on the floor without your seatbelt on, even hit the overhead compartment (by which time you'll already be crying for your mommy). Of course, if you're of a size that you get jammed in there real good you probably don't need one...

bobajob 4/15/2009 3:47:00 PM
Its not that the seatbelt will save your life if there is a crash... Upon sudden deceleration, you will be flung forward at great speed - more likely killing you whether fastened or not - at least with the seatbelt on there isn't 150 bodies collidinng with the front of the cabin, and killing the 1 in a hundred who miraculously survives. Then the problem is identifying bodies, which takes less than half the time if we all have our seatbelts on!

SkerP 4/15/2009 3:47:21 PM
Aircraft seatbelts have a wholly simple purpose, and it has has nothing to do with making a headlong plummet to terra firma survivable. The idea is to restrain Peter Passenger in his seat during turbulence or a sudden drop (e.g. 200 feet in a split second), to make these dangerous incidents eminently survivable. Imagine if your portly co-traveler was chucked around the cabin during some turbulence? That would suck, wouldn't it? What's more, it's a lapbelt only, specifically to allow you to brace.

Jan 4/15/2009 3:48:03 PM
The seatbelt might just keep you seated when you hit that nasty bump in the air called turbulence. That in in turn might save u from some minor cuts and bruises. Also on one of the TV series about plane disasters, the plane inverted itself and spun wildly around. The wearing of seatbelts in that instance definitely played a roll in no injuries by the passengers. The plane experience in excess of 8Gs... I'd rather wear it than not, even if it won't save me in a big crash...

Mike's Mechanic 4/15/2009 3:48:26 PM
It provides the illusion of safety I suppose. Nice up-beat article. Pity that other comments will question the relevance of it or in some way tie it into Zuma or Zille.

InDianaJones 4/15/2009 3:48:27 PM
when you're spiraling towards the ground at mach3 but it does keep the over excited 5 year old next to you in his seat for a couple of minutes!!!

JournoJen 4/15/2009 3:48:27 PM
Hey Colleen...good question! What I want to know is: How on earth can you get into the brace position on a budget aeroplane? I tried and it's impossible! My head kept on banging against the chair in front of me...enough space for a sardine but not for me :)

Dean 4/15/2009 3:49:06 PM
Granted, a seatbelt will not help much when the aircraft impacts terra firma at terminal velocity, but you should always, always have it fastened. There have been numerous instances of aircraft suddenly losing altitude, dropping hundreds of feet very quicky. Without the seatbelt, you would have to be plucked off the cabin ceiling, feeling very sorry for yourself, if not hurt. The aircraft could also stop very suddenly while taxing, with the same result.

MJ 4/15/2009 3:50:47 PM
The seat belt is not to protect you from high speed crashes nose first into the ground, it is to prevent minor-serious injuries from minor accidents, like skidding off the runway or extra hard landings. It has also been shown that in most light aircraft accidents the biggest injury is to the head, and simply wearing a helmet would have saved the pilot - yet we laugh at helmets in aircraft. Maybe you can turn your 'column' into a Q and A for stuff you are too lazy to think about.

LoudP 4/15/2009 3:52:18 PM
The seatbelt is to keep you from flying around in the plane when it goes into a free fall or experiences heavy turbulence. It doesn't mean the plane is going to crash, but you might smash into me (or another passenger) and break my neck. So rather buckle up.

Brett 4/15/2009 3:52:25 PM
The point of a seatbelt on a plane is for turbulance. I have hit my head on the ceiling of a plane due to turbulance and had to receive 3 stitches. Should have worn my seatbelt!

Malcolm 4/15/2009 3:52:35 PM
The seatbelt isn't there for when the plane goes nose diving 30000 feet toward the earth. It is there for when we hit pockets or turbulence, or in case something causes the plane to drop a bit. Not wearing your seatbelt during this time will result in your head meeting the overhead locker and you ending up rolling around the cabin until the plane stabilises.

Nick 4/15/2009 3:53:09 PM
I can think of a few of reasons off the top of my head. A - Planes don't always make it into the sky which effectively results in a very large very fast car accident. Good time to be wearing a belt. B- Landings aren't always that smooth either, think British Airways 777 at Heathrow recently. C- Planes can experience severe turbulence and wind sheer resulting in a huge drop in altitude very quickly, your body does not necessarily fall with the plane, resulting in your head meeting the ceiling.

bobajob 4/15/2009 3:53:13 PM
1.improve chance of survival from 1/10 000 to 1 / 1000 2.identify the dead

Thinker 4/15/2009 3:53:38 PM
A seat belt won't save you from hitting the ground, but it may save you from being crushed (perhaps even from the behemoth next to you) if the plane encounters turbulence and plummets a few hundred feet rapidly. This is why the captain turns the seat belt light on when he encounters turbulence. It may also save you if the plane comes to an abrupt halt while taxiing on the runway.

chopstick 4/15/2009 3:54:52 PM
Ok so youre up there and the plane hits an air pocket and drops say 5 000 feet but stabilises again. You look back and the poor sods that were not wearing the seat belts have managed to break their necks with the quick decent and the airline is liable. This happened on a Cathay Pacific flight not too long ago and thus the inforcement of this rule. I think you could have brought your point accross without being so catty. Very unfrofessional IMO... and no I'm am a skinny 78 Kg male BTW !

chops 4/15/2009 3:55:16 PM
It's not to help you if the plane crash - it's to prevent injury if you hit turbulence or on take-off if the pilot has to abort etc

George 4/15/2009 3:55:16 PM
Hi Colleen. Whilst I agree that nothing is going 2 help u whilst plummeting 2 earth @ a rate of knots, your seatbelt is not just meant 4 that scenario. I have been on a flight b4 that had such bad turbulence that I was quite grateful 2 be wearing my seatbelt. Another interesting fact is 2 ask yourself why u must prepare for the crash in the brace position. Apparently it is only because there is more chance that u will not lose your teeth, making it easier 2 identify u from dental records!

Jester 4/15/2009 3:55:28 PM
Sure, if you're unlucky enough to be in an aircraft the pile drives itself nose first into the ground, the seat belt will not save you. But let's say the plane hits severe turbulence - that seatbelt is going to stop you from creating a skull-shaped indentation in the panel right above you. Same thing for a crash landing - it will stop your voluptuous body (as you so quaintly put it) from taking out the passengers and seats around you.

Captain Courageous 4/15/2009 3:56:08 PM
Just try nosediving (assume the plane is out of control of course!) 30 000 feet to earth without your seatbelt fastened and then you'll know EXACTLY why! Read up some crash stats for additional comfort if you need to as well. When the shit hits the fan you'll wish you had buckled up. That's why they also say "and for your own SAFETY and comfort we suggest you keep it fastened THROUGHOUT the flight"! Thank you for flying.....

Yoda 4/15/2009 3:56:14 PM
I agree - dont worry about the 30'000 foot bump .....But, see what it feels like landing after junping 10 foot off the roof of a single story house. Now picture the plane dropping 10 feet with gravity and you have not a belt on. Now picture the guy next to me on a recent flight to Hong Kong who broke his leg landing on the floor after not wearing a seatbelt after a 10 foot drop crossing Thailand. I'll wear the belt anyday.

Roelof 4/15/2009 3:56:19 PM
Easy. Just look at what happened to the Qantas flight end of last year. The plane suddenly lost altitude, and most of the serious injuries were due to people not being fastened. Granted, nosediving into the ground it won't do much for (very little will help for that), but it's mostly for in-flight safety. You never know when you might hit that heavy patch of turbulence.

Joe 4/15/2009 3:57:46 PM
If there is heavy turbulance or if the plane drops suddenly, that seatbelt is there to help ensure you are not thrown out of your seat and into the overhead compartment of the plane. PS, recently a plane crashed in a river all passengers survived, sometimes you can survive if your plane is going crash

The Admiral 4/15/2009 3:58:48 PM
If a plane free-falls, drops suddenly (perhaps due to turbulence) or otherwise goes in a direction other than the direction intended by the pilot, your seat can literally fall out from under you. The seatbelt ensures that you stay in your seat and don't go tumbling around the cabin, injuring yourself and others. As for its usefulness in a crash, when I studied forensic medicine, one of our lecturers told us that in plane crashes, seatbelts have the tendency to slice the torso in half!

Frequent flyer 4/15/2009 3:59:53 PM
As a frequent flyer I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the role of the lapbelts if the aircraft is hurtling to imminent doom, however they do serve a purpose in turbulent conditions. Without them , passengers (in very turbulent conditions) would be thrown out of their seats and face almost guaranteed injury.Turbulence is far more common than water landings or decompression and therefore the extra time spent on ensuring passengers know how to use them.

Madelein 4/15/2009 4:00:35 PM
The purpose of the seatbelt is not to help you in case the plane crashes to the earth. It is to protect you when the plane runs into minor problems like e.g. air pockets. If you're not strapped to your seat you could bounce up and hit your head against the baggage compartment which can lead to quite serious injury, to name but one scenario.

Joe 4/15/2009 4:01:52 PM
If there is heavy turbulance or if the plane drops suddenly, that seatbelt is there to help ensure you are not thrown out of your seat and into the overhead compartment of the plane. PS, recently a plane crashed in a river all passengers survived, sometimes you can survive if your plane is going crash

Deon 4/15/2009 4:02:26 PM
Have you ever watched reality shows depicting plane crashes? Clearly not, I can tell you that if the plane does suddenly drop a few hundred feet and you are not wearing a belt, you will crush that cranium of yours quite badly against the luggage compartment. You see unlike in cars, where the risk is that you will bash your head into the windscreen, with planes, rapid loss of altitude sends you upward, hence a "lap" belt is fit for purpose on a airliner.

Joke 4/15/2009 4:03:24 PM
Should I waste my time? What will happen if the plane lost an engine at take off and need to make an emergency landing in the field 20m from the end of the runway? I assure you, it will not be a smooth ride. Take off and landing are critical times during any flight. If you do not have it on, your chances of sustaining serious injury increases dramatically, should things go wrong. But ignorance is bliss for some...

JDB 4/15/2009 4:03:50 PM
Maybe I should start using business class 'cos I just don't ever get served by a pretty little hostess's, and I just don,t feel comfortable with a guy named Steve waking me up and offering a pillow- just wrong.

Derrick 4/15/2009 4:06:24 PM
Like Seema said: Turbulence. If the aircraft has to make rapid maneouvres (maybe to avoid a collision) or if turbulence causes the plane to suddenly lose altitude, unsecured passengers will be thrown about the place, and into other passengers. This kind of thing happens quite a lot, in fact. Now, in my day journalists used to do a thing called "research".....

Anon 4/15/2009 4:06:38 PM
Agreed, what will it help during a free fall back to earth. However..Take off and landing can sometimes be the most turbulent time of the flight as the airplane moves through the clouds. I am sure the silly piece of canvas will at least prevent you from bumping out of your seat and injuring yourself during these times, and I presume that is what the precaution is for. Also, if they do not have this measure, some idiot will stand up during takeoff and tumble to the back of the plane....

Sandipa 4/15/2009 4:06:57 PM
Dear Ms Figg The truth about this dilemma of yours is that the purpose of a seatbelt is merely to ensure that everyone that was on the plane can be encountered for in the event of a horrible crash - it serves no other purpose!

Silly 4/15/2009 4:07:24 PM
The seatbelt is mainly for taking off and landing only, that's why you can remove the seatbelt once you're at altitude... it's really no rocket science.... You might as well be argueing what use does a car's safety belt provide at 120km/h ?!

Non-frequent flier 4/15/2009 4:08:01 PM
Newtonian physics dictates that a body will continue traveling at a constant speed in a straight line except if influenced by an external resultant force. Before calling me a geek, this means simply that should the plane have to brake during acceleration before take off, or in fact in turbulent air, your unfastened a@s will continue in the direction and speed the plane was traveling at before the incident, until you, ehh, hit something. Falling 30k feet is fatal mostly, though.

Bob 4/15/2009 4:08:03 PM
Although I found your column largely entertaining and I often wonder the same thing...it does serve a purpose on rare occasions. Ask anybody who has been onboard an aircraft in severe turbulance where the plane can shake so violently that luggage begins to fall out of overhead compartments and people start flying around the cabin... seatbelt would of kept them in their seats. Also, the gravitational forces of a plane falling towards the earth from 30 000 feet, could easily cause weightlessness...

Khulekani Njokweni 4/15/2009 4:08:05 PM
Interesting article indeed

Joke 4/15/2009 4:09:18 PM
What will happen if the plane lost an engine at take off and need to make an emergency landing in the field 20m from the end of the runway? I assure you, it will not be a smooth ride. Take offs and landings are critical times during any flight. If you do not have it on, your chances of sustaining serious injury increases dramatically, should things go wrong. But ignorance is bliss for some...

john 4/15/2009 4:10:55 PM
you have obviously never experienced real turbulence then have you? thats why bags need to be safely secured etc....

Bob 4/15/2009 4:12:05 PM
The answer is pretty simple and rather obvious. The seat belt isn't there to save your life in case of an airplane crash (which is very rare) but rather to keep you in your seat in case of turbulence (which is not so rare), takeoff and landing. Nobody else worries about this, because everybody, it seems, except you, have figured it out. This is rather like asking why the overhead compartments have doors on them.

Paul 4/15/2009 4:13:46 PM
Please try to do some fact finding before writing an article. It's there for turbulence, as some of the other people have noted here. If you're ever flying again and hit a really bad patch of turbulence where the plane feels like it's just dropped a few feet, ask yourself the question again, I'm sure you won't need anyone telling you what the seatbelt is for. Too little space in this tiny box to explain to you about the seat also being a floatation device.

Hop 4/15/2009 4:14:10 PM
Yup: It has already been mentioned that that little piece of canvas and metal will prevent you from bouncing around the cabin, sticking your pointy heels into someones left nostril when the pilot decides to abort the take off, or when you hit the "bump" a little hard. Methinks a bit of reading should have preceeded this column. All the safety stuff in the world does not help when you have the sudden stop at mach 1.0. Where it does come into it's own is the preventable ones.

tom 4/15/2009 4:14:17 PM
Dear Colleen - I am typing this slowly as I know you don't read so fast...apart from turbulence (suggest you Google this if it is an unknown word), there are lawyers who would cripple the airlines if they didn't go through the safety drill. That out the way, I'll leave you to dream up next year's brilliant article.

Chris 4/15/2009 4:14:49 PM
Nose diving to earth is hopefully a pretty rare event, but I've experience turbulence a time or two that's nearly lifted me out of the seat. Besides which, if the passengers are calmer believing the seatbelts will save them, who's going to complain?

Valiant 4/15/2009 4:15:57 PM
the safety belts is there, to help the keep the bodies more or less in one place to make the DNA identification easier.

Philip 4/15/2009 4:16:01 PM
Avoiding broken bones and lacerations seem to be good reasons to wear seatbelts on planes - http://www.smh.com.au/news/travel/dozens-hurt-as-qantas-jet-drops/2008/10/08/1223145384014.html

Andrew 4/15/2009 4:17:43 PM
The seatbelts are there to stop you from being knocked out of your seat and injured if there is any heavy turbulence. They do give unexpected turbulence as the reason for wanting you to keep your seatbelts on while you sleep on the longer flights. I do agree that most people appear to think it will protect them in the case of an accident (at 800 km/h and 30 000 ft up).

Conrad 4/15/2009 4:19:04 PM
Point 1 - The seatbelt will keep you from hitting your head against the ceiling in the case of severe turbulence. Point 2 - If the pilot has to abort the takeoff and climb on the brakes, you will be glad you were strapped in. Point 3 - More people survive plane crashes than car crashes - planes don't nosedive from 30,000 feet. In the case of a loss in engine power, the theory of lift still applies. Conrad

Mo 4/15/2009 4:19:09 PM
There is a scientific explanation for why you need a seatbelt. Its called commonsense. Its no logical puzzle...

Frequent Flyer 4/15/2009 4:19:25 PM
Ms.Figg, have you ever thought what would happen if the plane had severe turbulance during which the plane could lose about 2000 feet altitude in a few seconds, while you were not wearing a seatbelt? You, and not the "very voluptuous lady" sitting next to you would be lifted out of your seat and after banging your head against the overhead lockers, would come back down hard on the armrest or if you are lucky, you could end up on her lap. Now there's an icebreaker for you! Stop being silly, woman

Johan Goosen 4/15/2009 4:19:59 PM
Please give me your e-mail adress so I can send you a video clip of what happens if someone next to you is not wearing a seat belt. The seat belt is not designed to stop the fall but to keep you in your seat. If you have a problem with a safety device, next time walk don't fly.

Simon 4/15/2009 4:25:08 PM
Hi Colleen, I think it is only really necessary for an aborted take off. If you are preparing to take off and are most of the way down the runway then you have a very short space of time to stop that plane before you hit mud, so pilot hits brakes pretty fast and you'd eat the seat in front of you. Although the lady next to you would probably eat the seat anyway. The other reason: imagine that plane only dropped 1000ft and then carried on. You'd have a sore kop if you weren't belted in.

Melody 4/15/2009 4:25:32 PM
As one of the "the trim, pretty little air hostesses" now referred to as Cabin Attendants you refer to in your article I could go into the gory details of what would happen if the plane were to hit turbulance @ 30 000 ft and you were not wearing your seatbelt but it may cause you never to fly in the near future. Believe me when I say, it serves a vital function in air travel safety. Maybe next time you should concentrate more on assisting other passengers who are in need instead of criticizing.

anonymouse 4/15/2009 4:26:54 PM
The seatbelt is not there to protect you. The seatbelt is there to protect others from you. Should the plane start diving to earth at 30000 feet a second you will be flung to the back of the plane possibly hitting quite a few people in the process, especially in an airpocket situation. That is the reason for the seatbelt. Keeping your from flying from your seat hurting others and possibly causing damage to the plane.

Cathy 4/15/2009 4:29:25 PM
is for when you hit bad turbulance. If you don't have your seatbelt on and you hit turbulance, you could lift off your seat and hit your head on the overhead compartments. Wearing a seatbelt prevents this. It will do absolutely nothing if you nosedive 30000feet as you said.

HB 4/15/2009 4:30:03 PM
A completely pointless article. If it had some humour it might have been saved. HB

GAVIN 4/15/2009 4:32:47 PM
I have been in a plane were wind shear has caused the plan to drop a couple of thousand feet. Everyone who did not have there seat belt on was injured. So they do know what they are saying!

eric 4/15/2009 4:36:28 PM
THIS IS THE WORST JOURNALISM I HAVE EVER READ!!!! PLEASE FIRE THIS WOMEN. When a plane nosedives you experience negative G's. If you not strapped in everyone will hit the roof and come crashing down on eachother, the seats, floor, isles, luggage. DOES SHE THINK THEY MAKE UP THESE SAFETY RULES FOR FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

M 4/15/2009 4:38:11 PM
when it comes to seat belts in cars and yet statistics show that they decrease the mortality rate significantly. Go figure. Forget about all the research, Miss Uninformed (aka Figg) knows best. If you pretend to be a journalist then do what a journalist has to do BEFORE you post a letter, do your RESEARCH FIRST.

PulchraMens 4/15/2009 4:41:08 PM
...you buckle-up to help the NTSB locate your body after a 30000ft nosedive ;-p

VinChainSaw 4/15/2009 4:43:37 PM
Try deflating a cabin at 30 000 ft and see where your posterior goes.

Jo 4/15/2009 4:44:47 PM
No it's not a dump article. I agree. What the hell is that thing going to help. Maybe just to keep you in the seat (sort off) to help sort out the bodies afterwards. Check against the list when you board? ;D

Figgy 4/15/2009 4:47:32 PM
YOU my dear are an idiot!

danie 4/15/2009 4:47:33 PM
How News24 can even feature this crap? Imagine if I complained about sitting next to someone Indian, White, Black, why dont we tiptoe around the obese too? They seem to be the only ones who still suffer from prejudice.... In reality though just demonstrates the authors lack of a brain. As for the seatbelt, in future when you fly as soon as the 'ladies' have checked yours is on and sit down. TAKE IT OFF. Hopefully your plane will have a minor bump on the ground, and you can c 4 yrself!

Karel 4/15/2009 4:48:08 PM
Maybe do some research before you write crap like this.

Ross 4/15/2009 4:48:42 PM
Colleen, I hope you are not serious !!

Viljoen 4/15/2009 4:49:32 PM
Colleen what a waste of space :S

John 4/15/2009 4:50:09 PM
it has been proven scientifically that the seat belt and the brace position has an 80% likelyhood of saving your life in the event of an impact on take-off or landing complications. The airframe has been designed to act in quite a remarkable impact absorbing capacity. So, yes when your plane hits the plane at terminal velocity or more - you're dead! but that happens very rarely. Most airplane crashes happen at take-off or landing since it is the most vulnerable a plane gets in the flying exercise

Martin 4/15/2009 4:52:12 PM
Colleen, have you ever been in a plane experiencing bad turbulence? Have you ever hit your head against the luggage compartment above you as a result? The plane, for that matter, is NOT falling 30 000 feet, and is still very much flying. No, your life will not end when this happens and you're not wearing a seatbelt, but you will certainly be hurt. You're probably also one of the people that ask why cars have seatbelts?

Geoff 4/15/2009 4:52:31 PM
Well if they issued you with a full harness you could not assume the brace position to kiss your posterior goodbye. But on a more serious note, the waist straps are intended to allow you full upper body movement. In the event of total engine failure (i.e. a double Nationwide), passengers are required to flap in unison, with fingers held tightly together to create more lift. If done properly a plane can continue flying for hours. This is why some airlines are asking obese passengers to pay double, because they tire more easily and the more fit passengers have to work harder to save their lazy buts. BTW should you be in the unfortunate position of being in a plane that is about to crash, you can save yourself by jumping just before the impact. This also will work if you are trapped in a falling lift.

Mario 4/15/2009 4:52:43 PM
Doll, please belt up. In an so often event of air turbulance, people who are not 'belted up'may be pushed out of their seats and cause injury to other passengers like yourself. I am damn sure you will be one of the first to take SAA to court for compensation. A silly suggestion: if you do not like travelling next to other people, then just pay for two seats.

solo 4/15/2009 4:57:13 PM
Shocking column. Cannot even believe this got published. Clearly absolutely no understanding of anything. Colleen Figg I really hope you dont drive, let alone be a passenger on an aircraft.

Mark 4/15/2009 4:58:10 PM
Turbulence... and did you not see the flight that went down on the Hudson River??? I am sure all of those passengers a crew were grateful for a seatbelt and life preserver. This has got to be the worst article I have ever read on News24. Load of rot!

Francois 4/15/2009 4:59:56 PM
Colleen, you probably also wonder why you buckle up in your car? Would you prefer not to be buckled up when your pilot aborts take-off at 250kph halfway down the runway at OR Tambo? The dynamic deceleration forces are going to propel anything not strapped down forward at great speed (your seat is designed to stay locked in place up to 16G impact force). Mid-flight, turbulance can toss anything not strapped in around like a rag-doll. Please don't be one of those dumb passengers!

Amused 4/15/2009 5:07:32 PM
If the aircraft has to decelerate hard in the event of, for example, a failed engine on takeoff before Go / No Go speed, you will be very very glad you were wearing a seatbelt. Tell me, Colleen, do you also drive your car without one? Imagine, if you will, the impact of your face against the windscreen. Now imagine that you're hitting the seat in front of you instead. Make sense?

strapped-in 4/15/2009 5:14:48 PM
Imagine, if you will, the cost of cosmetic surgery if major turbulence is encountered. Honestly, what are you views on car seatbelts (I would love to know).

cameron price 4/15/2009 5:15:43 PM
Oh my goodness woman. Next thing you'll be writing about car seatbelts. Wise up and write about something more apt.

Andrew 4/15/2009 5:16:45 PM
I would prefer to receive a complimentary parachute when I board the plane and then be seated near the emergency exit. Seatbelts are for heavy turbulence but mostly they are to keep passengers out of the way and more controlable. It also provides a false sense of security...sort of like a wetsuit in shark infested waters.

enlightenment 4/15/2009 5:20:53 PM
Colleen, perhaps you should think about what happens during an explosive decompression (window blow out, or roof ripped open) everything and anything not fastened or tied down is bound to exit the plane at high speed - people included not wearing seat belts!

eric 4/15/2009 5:21:41 PM
....and I hope SAA bans you from their planes because you dont have a clue!

Strapped in 4/15/2009 5:24:08 PM
At the price of cosmetic surgery I think a seat belt is a minor inconvenience. Honestly, I would love to know your views on car seat belts.

Tim 4/15/2009 5:25:47 PM
The seatbelt is required for turbulence. In heavy turbulence it is not uncommon for people to be injured if they're not wearing their seatbelt. It's a very simple safety rule that shouldn't be ignored or scoffed at. And just a point of correction on the last comment posted-there is no such thing as 'air pockets'. Turbulence is simply ascending or descending air.

Markus 4/15/2009 5:26:10 PM
Stupid , stupid lady . I cant really add to the comments above as they are quite correct . I keep my buckled throughout the flight for turbulence , simple . Pretty much the same reason you wear a condom , you dont have to , but when you need it you'll be happy you have it on .

Russell 4/15/2009 5:26:24 PM
There was a video I saw a few years ago shown on a documentary. A plane hit turbulance and there was a home video taken of someone's head smashing against the roof of the plane, causing neck and spinal damage. A seatbelt would have prevented that.

Duif 4/15/2009 5:29:24 PM
Don old fellow, I agree with your splendid technical analysis. Planes that hit air pockets always create a sudden movement - no only in me but also other passengers. And this is regardless of whether or not I am wearing a seat belt.

kvr 4/15/2009 5:33:24 PM
Have you noticed that a body that is trapped inside a free-falling vessel does not experience gravity? One thing's for sure, I don't want you floating around the plane while we're going down. And alright, there's turbulence and the off chance of getting a heron in the turbines. And Don, the seatbelts aren't designed to protect you from connecting with the Earth. They are designed to prevent you from catapulting in you-choose-the-direction when you do connect with terra-firma.

Bob 4/15/2009 5:39:31 PM
Are you all stupid? Why do they allow you to take them off while you're in the air. It's not gonna help if you fall 30000 ft, but might just if you crash into something on the runway or into the Hudson river. That's why you put them on during takeoff and landing.

janitor 4/15/2009 5:41:42 PM
what a boring article, it's plain torture!

Morné 4/15/2009 6:05:01 PM
Another glimpse of the obvious. I'm not an airplane expert by any means, but most problems with flying occur during take-off and landing. Which is exactly when you are required to wear your seatbelt. Its not the 30,000 feet burning fireball that they worry about, but the crash on take-off and emergency landing from lower altitudes and lower speeds where seat belts can save lives. At the very least they will be able to put a name with the charred remains by looking at the passenger manifest.

Pilot 4/15/2009 6:29:31 PM
Dear Me Fogg, pleae refrain from using your seatbelt the next time you fly, let's get Natural Selection to take care of you. Thank you The Captain

Dutch 4/15/2009 6:43:35 PM
Why do I even comment on such rubbish.No plane just fall from 30 000 feet.No just leave it rather walk next time

schitzo 4/15/2009 7:21:08 PM
Uhm, if it takes a nose dive, turbulance etc it keeps you in your seat so you dont get thrown around the plane like a gerbil in a tuble dryer. This must be the idiot switch the other writer who also sucks was on about.

CR 4/15/2009 7:33:18 PM
If its enlightenment your after, why not be a real journalist and research the subject? _____ Secondly, I think the saddest part of this article is that you couldn't just help the poor lady next to you to attract the airhostess's attention, shame on you. Hear hear Pilot...

Dr Manto Tshabalala-Msimang 4/15/2009 8:37:43 PM
Some very thought provoking stuff Colleen. I for one would not be wearing a seat belt on my next trip. Don't mind these racist idiots, none of them have aeronautical degrees and type rubbish all day. Keep up the good work. PS. Half a glass of pear juice is a great remedy for airsickness...

Teenage Worrier 4/15/2009 9:15:31 PM
I'm always worried about what would happen if I was on the plane loo the minute turbulance hits - there aren't any seatbelts in there!

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