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2008-07-17 20:03

Johannesburg - Many Afrikaner youths are angry and hold rigid views about black people, Professor Jonathan Jansen said on Thursday.

Jansen, delivering the 5th Annual Bishop Hans Brenninkmeijer memorial lecture in Johannesburg, said these Afrikaner youths had had no direct experience of apartheid and were born around the time of former state president Nelson Mandela's release from prison.

"They (Afrikaner youths) carry within them the seed of bitter knowledge that left unchallenged can easily germinate into the most vile and vicious racial attack."

He cited the Waterkloof Four, the Reitz residence "initiation" video, and the Skierlik killings as examples.

"The Afrikaner youths' troubled knowledge was transmitted through the family, the church, the schools, cultural associations and peer groups," he said.

Supported white domination

These agencies transmitted "dangerous" messages in all white circles despite spectacular changes in the formal institutions of democracy.

Jansen said the Afrikaner youths' beliefs and behaviours mirrored those of their parents - "who upheld, supported and benefited from white domination in the decades before they were born".

The threat of social collapse around white people resulted in them reinforcing racial exclusivity (we belong to ourselves); racial supremacy (we are better than black people) and racial victimisation (we are being targeted by black people), said Jansen.

"In the belief system of white youth, these social events are interpreted through a singular lens: black incompetence, black greed, black barbarism and black retaliation," said Jansen.

In a bid to understand their "anger" Jansen said he lived inside the lives of white Afrikaners. His findings were that it was hard to change their views of other people.

However, he said for transformation to be successful, South Africans on both sides (blacks and white) had to be prepared to make a move towards each other.

'Represent red flags'

He said white people had to move out of their "comfort zones" and embrace not tolerate, their fellow human beings if they wanted to "make it" in the new South Africa.

"But white fathers loomed large as racial gatekeepers in their homes. We must get together and figure it out for the sake our country and the future," said Jansen.

In his lecture, Jansen highlighted that many white South Africans felt that the recent xenophobic attacks, and the escalation in fuel and food prices, and interests rates, were a "black problem".

"In other words, the weight of public discourse suggests a white man's burden," said Jansen.

On the "shaky democracy", Jansen blamed the ANC Youth League "thugs" for their "kill for Zuma" talk.

"The precipitous state of public institutions - the Human Rights Commission, the Presidency, the SABC and the Judiciary - represent the red flags of our fragile democracy," he said.

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Johnson 7/17/2008 8:30:23 PM
As a father of white teenagers, I cannot blame their feelings. Their reality is the truth - there reality is that there is no future for white children in South Africa. Its not necessary for parents to influence them, I can only try and convince them to finish schooling in SA and then leave. They are surely wise enough to interpret reality - you don't need to be a professor to interpret that, you can walk on the golf course, wherever you go people talk about the reality in SA, black & white.

ElectroMan 7/17/2008 8:35:52 PM
Again, the integration problems lure around the dark alleys, dinner tables and conversations with pre-developed (lacking actual experience in interaction) views about other races. Lacking a true integrated, fully represented, non-bias political party boosts this social and cultural integration struggle and will remain while the one pressures the other to give way.

Koos 7/17/2008 8:42:00 PM
The article contradicts itself. Young Afrikaner youth has been excluded form the new South Africa. If they were to be included in the future of this country they should not be sidelined. If they are included in the economic structures they might change their Supposed attitude. I see a problem brewing. This is not good. We should work toward peace.

ElectroMan 7/17/2008 8:42:06 PM
How great our world would have been if there were only one culture, one language, one social and economical class in SA... (wishful thinking) Thus without a "serious about real integration" political party, SA will surely sit with the same problems 100 years from now and might even go through a few worse case senarios of xenophobic/civil wars. A person (does not matter who you are) only has a certain level of tolerance regarding giving or opening up towards other views.

Danie 7/17/2008 8:54:46 PM
Professor Jonathan Jansen, why do you single the white youth out as being dangerous? What about the black youths who are under the same influences? Professor Jansen it's people like you who flame the racial fires, by being selective in your observations. In case you have not noticed, fathers better be the gatekeepers of their homes. If not their families might be raped or murdered. I believe your observations are disingenuous. If this lecture was a paper to be graded, I would give it an F

Anon 7/17/2008 8:56:19 PM
I am an english speaking, white 22 year old male. There is a big difference between english and afrikaans speaking white people in South Africa. This article goes backwards by classifying all whites in SA in the same way. The article is also very one sided - what about a reverse study Prof Jansen?? How can you make such statements without investigating the other side of the story? I sense this article is written in the attempt to make some politician happy for self gain...

Adriaan 7/17/2008 9:10:58 PM
I am one of these so called Angry Afrikaner Youths. I spend my weekends and Holidays in the Cape flats building homes for flood victims and helping people having to live with HIV. I was still in School when Apartheid ended, it had nothing to do with me. I have many black friends and are they exactly that FRIENDS! But when I want to apply for a job I cant because of the color of my Skin. I don't go around threatening to kill people, but I get branded as being Dangerous!

Wondering 7/17/2008 9:14:54 PM
"He cited the Waterkloof Four, the Reitz residence "initiation" video, and the Skierlik killings as examples. " It is quite amazing that these three incidents stuck in his mind and he chooses to ignore farm murders and racial remarks of burglars in the Pretoria East area. Remember when burglars found out black people lived in a Pretoria house house they broke into? They said that if thye knew that black people lived there, they wouldn't have broke in and only took their cell phones.

Johnson 7/17/2008 9:25:01 PM
We need a "new" political party ruling this country - sensitive to the needs of all in SA, with moral fibre and without any "baggage" - thats why Madiba (Happy birthday!) initially gave me hope.

Philip Jacobs 7/17/2008 9:25:05 PM
Where are the statistics Prof Jansen? What is the actual percentage of white on black crime apposed to black on white crime?

Daddy Cool 7/17/2008 9:25:44 PM
What a foolish professor! No wonder there's no peace in SA. People like you are busy infiltrating our children with gabbage. You're supposed to come up with solutions since we assume you are learned, instead you disappoint us.

paul smit 7/17/2008 9:28:07 PM
What reason did he have to write this? It's ridiculous. Once again someone highlights the differnces between races making them more obvious. He generalises on two events ( Reitz and Skilling). If whites did that then they indeed would view all black people as greedy, incompetent, hateful and violent. But you cant do that. There are too many people to do that. The only way to solve bad white characteristocs and bad black characteristics is through education. Education is the key.

Elias 7/17/2008 9:30:31 PM
you must have gotten your degree out of a lucky-packet because this is very one sided....what about the farm murders...wake up!

jaco 7/17/2008 9:33:39 PM
Many Russians long for another Tsar - Nikolas 2 was killed 90 years ago, before communism. Young Palestinians are sacrificing their lives in suicide attacks, they werent born when the regions problems started. Why would it be different in SA? What has a white teenager to be happy about?

Jacques 7/17/2008 9:37:05 PM
Oh my,and his title is professor,scary!!!Think you wasted lot of time and money on your uuhm research mate.Your government is blowing oxygen into the lungs of apartheid,keeping it alive and well.We are Afrikaans and I can assure you, no apartheid here,my son loves our maid,as I loved mine when I grew up in the days of Apartheid.What if you focus on something else,GLOBAL WARMING maybe????

David R 7/17/2008 9:38:25 PM
It is a pity that the white population and their leaders seemed to have misunderstood the real objectives of our transformation. Political freedom to us blacks means very little without material changes to our lives. Whites seemed to have expected no material changes to the benefits due to them during apartheid. Instead of white parents teaching swart gevaar, they need to raise awareness with their children of the exclusive benefits they enjoyed under apartheid and its evils to blacks.

Cathy 7/17/2008 9:40:46 PM
Afrikaners voted overwhelmingly to make the new South Africa a reality. They did this under the premises that their language won't suffer, that property rights will be entrenched in the constitution and that racism will end. For this they were awarded with the most racist government in history. They are the victims of genocide, and their rights are constantly being eroded. Afrikaner youths can observe and read. They have every reason to be mad!

Philip 7/17/2008 9:46:12 PM
Where did you conduct your study, sir, Venters Dorp? Your article is one sided and points out probably the only three Racial events caused by white teens, in which fortunately only a very few people were killed or hurt in one way or another, that even made it into the news? Other than fueling racial indifferences what would your point be, sir? Your certainly not helping people like the thousands and thousands of Christian men following Angus Buchans's example to built a peaceful and tolerant nation!

Lardus 7/17/2008 9:47:24 PM
Idiots like you make it difficult for people like me to be seen as a part of SA. I do not care who makes the country work, I just want it to work.just because I do not mingle with other races doesn't make me a bad person. I am not even that active in my own race. I just want to be left alone.

John 7/17/2008 9:48:06 PM
I cannot believe my eyes. Is this guy a professor?

Cathy 7/17/2008 9:48:17 PM
Prof Jansen, look at the statistics. Which youths in South Africa are responsible for most of the crime. You highlight three examples of Afrikaner criminality, what about the thousands who are killed and maimed by others. Afrikaner youth are angry - with reason. It's not racism, it's realizing the truth. The South African government is waging a war against them!

Nanker Phelge 7/17/2008 9:51:51 PM
Is he seriously suggesting that the church still preaches white supremecy? Come on! The Church, especially the Dutch Reformed Church has sold its stones to the butchers a long, long time ago. I'd like some proof please!

Dr DoLittle 7/17/2008 9:53:03 PM
From the time a person is born he is formed and moulded by what he observes around him. As the professor rightly said "black incompetence, black greed, black barbarism and black retaliation"... Can you realistictly expect any other response from from the young white people who are denied equal opportunities in their country of birth?

ROBYN 7/17/2008 9:58:55 PM
I'M A SOUTH AFRICAN LIVING IN BRITAIN. BRITAIN GIVES AN OUTWARD APPEARANCE OF INTEGRATION AND UNFLAGGING DEMOCRACY, YET RACIAL SEGREGATION, RASICISM AND IGNORANCE OF EACH CULTURE NOT ONES' OWN REIGNS SUPREMELY HERE - I AM PROUD OF SOUTH AFRICA, BY COMPARISON - IT HAS COME FURTHER THAN MOST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES EVER WILL. Celebrate how far we've come - want intergration - show us a truly mutlicultural government!

Anon 7/17/2008 9:59:28 PM
I do not think that the comments made by this gentleman was researched at all. He is preaching hatred wich is taken by everybody who hates Afrikaners as justification for the horrible deeds done in our beautiful country. He mentiones three examples of Afrikaner acts of violence, Why does he not mention the thousands of violent acts done apon the Afrikaners?My church, family and peer groups are all preaching love and tolerance towards others.Please sir -Lets make peace not war. I am shocked.

Willie 7/17/2008 10:20:15 PM
Isn't it interesting that reconciliation always has to come from the side of the whites in the country? "...white people had to move out of their "comfort zones" and embrace...". How does one not feel segregated, if the finger keeps getting pointed in your direction? I think it is laughable that this "professor's" supposed research so clearly indicates his own bias in this matter....

Emil 7/17/2008 10:37:11 PM
I can see their point of view, being treaded like trash by many blacks on a daily basis, but at the same time, also treated as human by other blacks. We need to get rid of all laws splitting us into racial lines, and as he said, find common ground. IF we cannot do that, well, we can have big problems. On his point of escalating food, fuel and the like, I, as a 26 year old, being side-lined, how are we supposed to feel? Tell me this, when we are dictated to every day.

RB 7/17/2008 10:44:20 PM
Everything he says is true and as a white youth I will confirm that,BUT he is wrong in saying that "I" am influenced by parents and elders.NO I can just open my eyes and view the killing/rape/robbery going on to enforce my feeling.But do you see me going on and killing people and raping and stealing...nope.Maybe that is what the Prof was referring to when he says "embrace", all the Afrikaners should embrace their ways and also start killing and raping!?Once again,if you are white, you are wrong!

Johnson 7/17/2008 10:47:16 PM
David R, only through hard work, honesty and entrepeneurship will there be material prosperity. It will not be created through corruption, BBBEE, crime - these are the things killing the entrepeneural spirit - and driving away investment - the ANC has the RESPONSIBILITY to govern the country, deliver to the population in line with the constitution and apartheid is OVER.

Anon 7/17/2008 10:51:45 PM
Kill for Zuma! Eliminate the DA. I'll be seeing you, Nuff said.

TME 7/17/2008 10:54:12 PM
Well now at least everyone have been warned of how dangerous we can be. I will be the one on the front line - remember the Prof warned you!

Hein Kruger 7/17/2008 10:58:27 PM
Who is the most dangerous, angry white Afrikaner youths (three isolated incidents) or transparent ignorant professors preaching xenophobia against the non-establishment. Sounds a bit like Mugabenism - hkgk

Dries 7/17/2008 11:07:54 PM
Jansen claims that "In a bid to understand their "anger" Jansen said he lived inside the lives of white Afrikaners". I want to know how he did that. Did he (a) not get a scholarship due to his white skin, (b) tell his father it is ok that he lost his job due to affirmative action, (c) accept that as a white person he will face underemployment with incompetent "superiors" or (d) know that he will be blamed for racism based on the prima facie evidence in the form of the colour of his white skinu

Dries 7/17/2008 11:36:04 PM
This professor, like so many who want to ingratiate themselves with Zuma and the brand new class of 2009 masters of SA, seem to be lecturing on the "Wit Gevaar"... so Animal Farm...

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