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'Bring me my messiah?'

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2008-12-05 14:01

Dear Editor,

I'd like to comment on the article "SARMF defends ANC's Jesus claim.

I don't know what's more shocking: the fact that the ANC has sunk to such a ridiculous level or the fact that the article offended even me, a non-religious person.

What a load of hogwash! The SA Religious Ministers are obviously just as deep into the Zuma-pocket as those who devotedly hang on to his every word. The same people who would change their minds in a flash should Zuma go down.

I can't help but wonder how the Muslim community would have responded if the ANC had equated Zuma to Allah. Or Ishvara or Adibuddha.

I think, and this is only my humble opinion, that Jesus would be quite offended to be put in the same category as Zuma. If the ANC believes Zuma is like Jesus; if they believe he suffers or is persecuted like the Christian icon then where are the records of Jesus standing trial for rape or corruption?

Does this mean that people should now sing "Bring me my machine gun" instead of "Silent Night"? The ANC should put down that machine gun and stop shooting themselves in the foot. It's cringeworthy.

Charlotte O

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tm 12/5/2008 2:06:56 PM
Excellent!

Annie 12/5/2008 2:09:46 PM
Let's test their theory - we nail him to a cross, ( I will even supply the nails ) and see if he is resurrected after three days ! I am so over the ANC !

Lehlohonolo 12/5/2008 2:10:11 PM
hi My plea to you is, please tell us something without ANC so we can see your level of creativity and political maturity. I am waiting fopr the day someone tells me about how to eradicate poverty and how to educate the masses to be self sustainable instead of attacking the personalities. Next I hear the same article about any political slander I am going to thow out on yopur piece.....Hloks wa Mampela

Elizabeth 12/5/2008 2:12:14 PM
I totally agree! And it's great that a non-religious person wrote this letter. Why insult a religion? If it's offensive to people, then rather do not do it.

slabs 12/5/2008 2:15:08 PM
They are playing with fire and are sure to be burnt at the stake.These clowns are obviously not christians and should therefore not be quoting anything from christianity. Besides Zuma should be compared to the DEVIL, no wait the devil does not rape and steal. Zuma will soon see what happens when you play with FIRE.

Juan 12/5/2008 2:18:10 PM
How to eradicate poverty: Spend some money on DECENT education, build houses, train people with skills, teach them how to read. But OH NO, your precious anc would rather take that money (our TAX money) and buy bmw's blue light convoys, submarines, jets, etc. These are all INDISPUTABLE FACTS, and the best you can come up with to counter these facts, is play the race card. I am soo sure of it!

Point Blank 12/5/2008 2:21:32 PM
It's easy, the sooner we rid South African politics of the ANC the sooner we will see an improvement. The ANC have failed, there are so many reports out there now that have proved beyond doubt that the ANC have failed in the three key areas. Crime, education and health. Knowing this they are trying to pull the wool over your eyes by detracting from these key issues and we have every right to take them to task over it. Unlike the ANC other parties know they only as good as the next election and not until Jesus returns or making out like Zuma is like Jesus. That still doesn't take away the fact that we live in the most violent country in the world, with the highest Aids infection rate, poorest education policies. It isn't hard for other political parties to counter that but due to blind loyalty and a sense of owing the ANC for freedom they will never be afforded the opportunities, so I do not understand why pro-ANC put down opposition parties when they have not even had a chance to show what they capable of, instead we continue to witness the ANC enforce more and more policies as they see fit without proper consultation and regrd for the public.

Lehlohonolo 12/5/2008 2:22:54 PM
Why would a christian like yourself lie to poor masses OR thru her teeth. The scripture/ Bible says "thou shalt not condemn nor judge but majority of christians in this country and judgemental and like to condem and to judge, including the Rev himself Mr Meshoe. We are told too much lies about blasphemy, I don't see any statement degrading the Lord Jesus. Stop claiming and prononuncing what suits you best just becauise you "hate" one man [Zuma].

Sven Gohre 12/5/2008 2:22:55 PM
Annie, I will pay the carpenter to make the cross and supply the hammer for your nails. If he is resurrected at the end of 3 days, I too will replace my crusifix of Christ with the gun totting version of Zuma on the cross. I will also then accept the statment that the ANC will rule until Jesus comes :)

Sinudeity@Gmail.com 12/5/2008 2:23:09 PM
Jesus was without sin. And only spoke the truth. He threw the greedy OUT of the temple. He sang about love, not machine guns. Jesus didn't sleep with the 'harlot'. He said 'honor your father and your mother'. Jesus GAVE to the poor. Zuma only reminds me of false prophets and his supporters, the pharisees.

MarcD 12/5/2008 2:23:17 PM
But you know what Charlotte, a key point in your letter is 'shooting themselves in the foot'. Currently they are doing that better than Ive ever seen, and I reckon we let them carry on. I mean, who is their spin-doctor? JZ should use his machine gun on whoever is in charge of their campaign, its a joke, but one I am thoroughly enjoying. It shows the level of intelligence in the ANC.

Win 12/5/2008 2:23:30 PM
If Zuma can walk on water...he had a shower, not the same though! Or just put his feet in cement and help him to the bottom.

Hopnop 12/5/2008 2:23:36 PM
Try speed reading...it don't hurt so much to recognise the truth.. good luck

Mosotho 12/5/2008 2:26:15 PM
There are a few sensible people left within the ANC, most of them have died, retired from politics or joined COPE. The remaining sane people are a few, the rest of the loot are holigans, narrow-minded, greedy, deceitful shenanigans like Kanga-man, Baby Malema, Mbalula, Vavi and "IFP Man" Nzimande. These guys need serious prayers and meditations.

Tsotsi 12/5/2008 2:29:10 PM
God doesn't sleep...

Teutonic Knight 12/5/2008 2:29:18 PM
Quite spot on. Juan agree and concure your sentiments 100%. Lehlohonolo your argument holds no water. Deny the facts if you like it only portrays your ignorance. Righteousness shall previal.

Meshack 12/5/2008 2:29:24 PM
People of SA must give JZ a chance to do the best of his ability in leading this country.He is a hard worker.We all make mistakes and even politicians all over the world are fallible.ANC brought many chages that many people do not want to appreciate.Even if you can vote for COPE,DA,UDM or any other party-U will still be unhappy.Long live ANC .Meshack

Christian4Life 12/5/2008 2:31:55 PM
I'm a Christian 2but I really don't c anything wrong in drawing comparisons between the 2. I also don't understand how can u be offended if you are non-religious, were you gonna be offended if the comparisons was drawn between ZUMA and SHAKA or Moshoeshoe or any other african hero?Zuma has suffered for me and you(Black) and is still suffering for our kids to have a better future as JESUS did for the world.The only difference is that ZUMA is suffering for SA not the WORLD.

Dinilesizwe 12/5/2008 2:32:30 PM
This is a masterpiece submission .I think all hardware shops will volunteer their nails .Jesus never had countless wives .He never slept with a girl half his age .He kept to the 10 commandmments , dont steal , dont do udultery , dont lie and dont kill .

Elizabeth 12/5/2008 2:34:33 PM
Who was your 2nd comment directed at? You say to "her" that she is a liar. Who is "her"? Aren't you judging yourself? Did you note the part where the writer of this letter says she is not religious? Where did she say she hates Zuma? Comparing any human being to Jesus is wrong. NO-ONE can be compared to Him, because He is without sin. Maybe you should read the whole Bible, and not only the parts that suit you. The apartheid government only read the parts that suit them. Love thy neighbour.

lav 12/5/2008 2:35:15 PM
Jesus laid aside His eternal glory, stepped into humanity and purposefully gave Himself as ransom to buy back a humanity who rebels against its Creator. What a ludicrous comparison. Zuma (and all of us) would do well to submit to the God-given authority of the One who has now risen and is seated at the right hand of the Father - He will return to judge us all, now is the time to turn for forgiveness.

Sinudeity@Gmail.com 12/5/2008 2:35:52 PM
To steal and destroy even more. Like you said, THE ANC brought many changes, not zuma. And in fact, the ANC brought more negative changes than good ones. So, please, take your pro-anc propaganda to the uneducated masses, because, here, we think for ourselves.

Pied piper 12/5/2008 2:35:59 PM
Who are we to judge?????? Jesus associated himself with all personalities one can think of. Murderers, prostitutes etc. Now who are we to judge if Zuma is pure enough to be associated with Jesus or not?? How they see Zuma or Jesus is non of your business & therefore i dont see the issue here. Just because his sins are known by the whole world dont make you a saint either.

Lehlohonolo 12/5/2008 2:36:04 PM
Play the ball NOT the man.

Ck 12/5/2008 2:36:58 PM
Brilliant article. Good luck to Zuma though as God will not be mocked. Lehlohonolo here's how you eradicate poverty, educate the masses, become self sustainable and I'll even add an extra, eliminate crime: REMOVE the ANC. there easy peasy problem solved.

Joe333 12/5/2008 2:39:23 PM
That's ok, having their own jesus. I believe the ANC has a Batman, Robin, Spiderman, Mister-T and Alfred E Neuman too.

M 12/5/2008 2:40:15 PM
who reads the New Testament and compares Jesus with Zuma will find that its like comparing Mother Theresa with Robert Mugabe (Africa's Hitler). It just goes to show how incredibly stupid those comments must have been. But alas, these days anyone can claim to be something wonderful while dragging millions of lives into the abyss (see Bobbie Mugabe) &there will be people that believe this.

pattrikos 12/5/2008 2:40:34 PM
people stop misundertsanding issues and then treating your understandings as facts. only the suffering of JZ was likened to the suffering of Jesus. This does not suggest then that JZ is like Jesus with everything. It is impossible to have somebody like Jesus even well known pastors like Benny Hinn, pastor Chris etc. can never be like Jesus they are humans after all. So people lighten up and stop thinking only one-dimensional.

Mariana 12/5/2008 2:43:34 PM
Think on this for a moment... The Titanic was said to be perfect and that not even God will allow her to sink, she sank on her first voyage, there are so many examples of people in history who have used God's name to prove how important they are and all of them have met some or other fate none of them good, so leave Zuma be, if he keeps it up he will soon work his own way out!!! And at the rate he is going it is not going to be very long!!

Vincent Ndlovu 12/5/2008 2:45:11 PM
You people are making Zuma famous.Zuma never said he is Jesus and will never be no matter how hard he tries to.You are all confused,may be Jesus is here with you.How long have we been waiting for Him.Leave Zuma alone.People stop talking utter nonsense.Every article on News 24 will have Zuma's name and it is linked to corruption or rape.Even if that thing does not have to include JZ,some people try by all means to link.Your Jesus is also Zuma's Jesus.Jesus for is for innocent and opposite.

Annie 12/5/2008 2:45:16 PM
Sorry, why should we give JZ a chance ? He is proving all the time that he is not the right person for the job ! I will never accept that he is the best SA can offer !

M 12/5/2008 2:46:31 PM
True, we shall not judge, but we still need to make a judgment to access a persons capabilities before we are for or against him. There is a difference. God doesn't expect us to be idiots and let idiots be our leaders. Massive difference.Zuma might be a great guy, but he lacks leadership skills.

Thembisile 12/5/2008 2:46:31 PM
we have been blinded by loyalty to the anc for a long time, but no more,JZ HAS BROUGHT THE DOWNFALL OF ANC, JZ IMAGE IS TAINTED, WHY DOESNT HE BOW OUT UNTIL HIS NAME IS CLEARED, NO HE WONT DO THAT BEACUSE HE IS SO POWER HUNGRY, AND WHATS UP WITH NZIMANDE CANVASSING FOR ANC?

Sinudeity@Gmail.com 12/5/2008 2:47:49 PM
Jesus SUFFERED for the people. Zuma did his BEST to stay out of courts, and didn't want to take the punishment. If Zuma was like JC, he would have stepped down. And for ALL you pro JZ supporters, we can forgive the man, IF he faces the music. Of course we can forgive, that doesn't mean, we want the man to be our President. Id rather compare Zuma to the snake in the garden, that gave Adam and Eve the apple.

Mosotho 12/5/2008 2:47:55 PM
Guys please support Zapiro and buy the Pirates of Polokwane, it's worth it. I wish to see more drawings by Zapiro on JZ. Well done Zapiro, you say a lot with your drawings.

chris 12/5/2008 2:50:36 PM
Before we give any credence to the utterances of this ignominious bunch, we should establish their credibility. It is apposite to ask 'Who the hell is this unknown entity calling themselves the SA Religious Ministers Forum'. Are they another ANC funded front to say what the great shepard 'showerhead' desires? They have no presence on the Internet; their origins are murky and untraceable! Must be the counter-counter-revolutionaries at work ...... As to the logic they portray, God help us.

John Michael 12/5/2008 2:50:36 PM
The absolute arogance and ignorance related to these comments in comparing Zuma to Jesus has only one redeeming factor 'redemption'. Jesus suffered and died for all of humanity, repent or perish' ANC - but to put Zuma in Lord Jesus 'sandals' is scary. The majority of South Africans still subscibe to some form of 'nominal' Christianity which obviously caters to the political seduction process of decieving the masses in politic-speak abusing the pulpit for votes. WAKE UP CHURCH!

Mandla 12/5/2008 2:52:02 PM
It is interesting to hear that the same people (DA and Cope) who are claiming to be protecting the contitution are actually speaking against the contitution and the judiciary. They say Zuma raped and stole. How desparate!!! You will never get the vote from the ANC, The ANC will win again, just get used to eat. We dont have too many house niggers.

malcolmx 12/5/2008 2:54:54 PM
Theres a new sport out called ANC bashing.(In the physical sense of the world). The ANC gather like sheep. Theyr'e easy to bash. No better time than the present & future.

jame 12/5/2008 2:55:09 PM
just about ever member in the anc is a killer, rapist, thief, bomber (bomber mcbride). the anc and every single one of its members can all go to hell and burn there for eternity. there is no place for you in africa or anywhere else except hell... RIP

M 12/5/2008 2:55:23 PM
Association and comparison is a bit of a difference, eish buddy. He had to associate with them to be able to help them. It doesn't mean he was like them, or comparable to them. You need your weekend.

hopeful? 12/5/2008 2:58:33 PM
If they want to compare him to jesus, they should crucify him, so that he can die for the sins of all the corrupt!

Sello Jelle 12/5/2008 3:01:14 PM
I thought Charlotte O was complaining about the decision of SARMF which does not see anything wring with Ace Magashule's statement. I peosonally think that they were wrong not to see anything wrong - but that has nothing to do with Zuma himself. The man has made his mistakes but this time it is Magashule who is in the wrong. Let us criticise fairly and not play the man instead of the ball - at least in football terms! I do not think we should also blame the ANC for these statements by individual.

Mandla 12/5/2008 3:05:31 PM
It has became fashion these days to take anything that the ANC says out of context and use it to deliberately undermine the ANC and its leadership with the hope that the people will turn against the ANC. Zuma has a strong bond with many religious leaders and the religious community at large in this country. I am sure he respect christianity. If you will listen to what was said in the context it was said then you will see above your ANC hatrated that there was no blesphmy.

The Truth 12/5/2008 3:07:37 PM
should first do themselves a great favour and try sitting through Mel Gibson's "Passion of the Christ" without shedding a tear.Whatever sheer cruelty that movie displays,will then have to be multiplied by ten to adequately convey the pain and torture which Jesus had to endure.As He once famously said..."Forgive them for they know not what they do".

thomas 12/5/2008 3:08:01 PM
God will not be mocked, Jacob Zuma cannot be compared to Jesus, for one thing jacob did after all sleep with the lady, consent or not. If he was innocent why go all the way to mauritius to hide evidence that does not exist? By the way , four wives and how many children down the line? How many divorces? If you cannot handle your own marriages how will you handle 40 million people? Its time africans woke up and started to think. Ever wonder why Africa has all the resources but still poor? Mannn.

jan` 12/5/2008 3:08:23 PM
To place yourself on the level of the almighty is a joke. Not the article, the argument, then again, when has the idiotic anc retards done anything using> 1 brain cell. if ( zuma.isJesus()) { Console.writeline("KILLMENOW"); }

Kolkas 12/5/2008 3:08:29 PM
Pirates of Polokwane is brilliant. I went to buy a copy yesterday and I couldn't put it down. I have to say that the likes of JZ make it really easy for Zapiro. But its still really good.

chris 12/5/2008 3:08:50 PM
Who or what is this body - the SA Religious Minister's Forum? Who does it represent? What religion(s) is/are represented? Jewish? Muslim? Hindu? Christian? Before giving any credence to their utterances their credibility should be establihsed.

ElectroMan 12/5/2008 3:08:53 PM
If you're not religious, but are offended by the Jesus comparison, then you it might be due to the accepted fact that religions serve a purpose (to set the rule on how to live). The problem comes in where the most powerful religion are slammed or teased by those who also realized that religion is not constant but a general philosophy and can be used in many ways to serve other purposes. Zuma's reasoning does however, not throw God of His thrown, but rather challenge the selective believe systems.

thomas 12/5/2008 3:09:02 PM
God will not be mocked, Jacob Zuma cannot be compared to Jesus, for one thing jacob did after all sleep with the lady, consent or not. If he was innocent why go all the way to mauritius to hide evidence that does not exist? By the way , four wives and how many children down the line? How many divorces? If you cannot handle your own marriages how will you handle 40 million people? Its time africans woke up and started to think. Ever wonder why Africa has all the resources but still poor? Mannn.

Mandla 12/5/2008 3:09:26 PM
and without sin. No one can compare himself or erself to him. But if one is persecuted or hated by his own friends and family, he can say like Jesus who was persecuted by hs own, I am also persectuted. That does not in anyway say that one is equal to God (Jesus Christ). Your motives are exposed!!!

bonjo 12/5/2008 3:09:51 PM
Nobody said Zuma is Jesus, but the Free State Premier said Zuma has endured the suffering that can be likened to that of Jesus. Now you tell me does this say Zuma is Jesus? People must not always misdirect the ANC statements to suits their needs for hating our African leader. I have always mantained that white media like news 24 are anti ANC, no indegenous African newspaper or radio would carry such a stupid article or story, leave Zuma alone already he is our president and we love him.........

Thokozani 12/5/2008 3:12:12 PM
haven't seen the piece you talking about, however i do think that you sound a little emotional about the whole thing which probably drags from the hatred of Zuma or the ANC. Just a question who said we can't compare people to Jesus, people are compared to God even, everyday. This my friend is not about Zuma compared to Jesus it's about Zuma personally.

Jan 12/5/2008 3:12:24 PM
Jesus is a colonialist icon. Should you be comparing Zuma's oh so honourable plight with a donkey or a sheep or whatever Africa prayed to before??

Point Blank 12/5/2008 3:20:17 PM
It's a democratic country, of course people can say what they want about someone, we not insulting him we merely discussing what the ANC do everyday. Insult other parties, insult our intelligence, make threatening statements without apologising, making racist statements without consistency when the reverse is also true, claiming they will RULE, note not govern, until Jesus returns. Come on dude, they setting themselves up for what they are getting.

Alex Dion 12/5/2008 3:27:07 PM
How has Zuma sufferred, apart from fighting court battles that are in no small part his own fault? How is that suffering like Jesus? I'm not saying he's guilty, but he consistently places himself in positions that result in him being accused of terrible things. Commit adultery and you stand the chance of being accused of rape, be friends with a crook, and you will be suspected of being the same...It's utter stupidity.

bonjo 12/5/2008 3:28:05 PM
Did you hear Philip Dexter the spokeperson of the breakaway faction during the week, he said their party would abolish affirmative action and BEE and also the land reform program. Is this not a sell out to the millions of our people who are excluded in the economy of this country? is the economy not in white hands? is our land not in white hands? go on black brothers vote for cope and betray the rest of the black community, however, history will judge you harshly, we fought for freedom with blood

Rafi 12/5/2008 3:32:30 PM
JZ is riding to glory on the backs of individuals like you. Why should you associalte any reasoning to anti ANC. Wa swabisa man! JZ is continously making stupid and uncalculated comments -exposing himself to be critisize by the media. He is unfit to govern!!

Joe333 12/5/2008 3:33:37 PM
What you see here is freedom of speech in action, something that is under great threat by the ANC and people like you. Do yourself a favour, don't read News24 and don't post anymore of your drivel! OR just except that there are other people out there that have different views.

darren 12/5/2008 3:34:33 PM
Who plays the ball, its the man! .You make statements that are not informed to make comments. Please dont think I am judging you when I say this as I say it circumspect to myslef as I dont know everything. Yes we as Christians are not supposed to judge, but as stated by M, if a person ( any person) does something that is not right, ethical, etc, then I as a normal human being with basic ethics wouldnt follow them.

Love Africa 12/5/2008 3:36:00 PM
Please someone give me one example where Jesus is the same as Zuma.... Are we going to crucify him? When that happens then they will have one thing in common. P.S. The church has always been politically driven so not really surprising.

Kathryn Smith 12/5/2008 3:36:58 PM
These so called Christian leaders should look up the 10 commandments of there Bible before defending these comparations. 7.You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

Puhleez 12/5/2008 3:42:27 PM
Ever wonder why sensitive, spiritual people do not run companies or countries? Because it does not PAY to be gentle, generous and kind, like Jesus was. Being like Jesus can only bring spiritual rewards - not big cars, bank accounts and houses. Until the general public decides that WE want to live like Jesus did (a materially poor but spiritually rich existence) our politicians will continue to be the most confidently hardened power mongrels. Zuma is not like Jesus: he is LIKE US!

lucien 12/5/2008 3:43:10 PM
Jesus was not up for corruption and rape charges. Zuma was, and should not be compared to Jesus. Zuma has achieved this popularity for total differen reasons as Jesus. Jesus is the promised Messiah, Zuma is the promised .....

Funny 12/5/2008 3:44:38 PM
Funny how quiet most of the ANC critics were when blacks were treated like dogs ... Funny how quiet you were when we were barred from most places ( including churches).... funny how quiet you were when only whites were employed in certain position ( still happening) ... funny how quiet Jesus was when all this occurred

bheki 12/5/2008 3:45:28 PM
Charlotte, you didn't read the whole article. Your thinking is very selective, was Zuma convicted of rape? Is he guilty of corruption or is a suspect? Judge Nicholson said something (I don't want to mention it) about Mbeki but I don't remember people writing about it. People are so anti - Zuma it's not funny

Monique 12/5/2008 3:46:01 PM
I think this whole thing is absolutely disgusting who in their right minds compares someone like Jacob Zuma to Jesus!!! Can anyone tell me what good Jacob Zuma has ever done for this country??? And what suffering has Jacob Zuma done, he has not bled for this country he has not been nailed to a cross (which quiet frankly i wish someone would do) he has not been spat on and called names and he didnt walk with a cross on his back SO DONT COMPARE HIM TO JESUS!!!! GET A LIFE JESUS NEVER FORGETS

M 12/5/2008 3:46:02 PM
If only someone whipped Zuma! Even the Free State Premier's comment is daft.I think what he was trying to say is: JZ is found guilty by the masses even though he was innocent. Maybe in that respect, they had one thing in common. And that's just a maybe. But I still think, people should stick to comparing apples to apples not go off on some biblical tangent.That's just tasteless.

Azonic 12/5/2008 3:46:11 PM
I wish I could play the ball, but unfortunately your brothers stole it. I called the cops but they never showed up. When I went there they were just stepping out of the shower to sit down for a nice hot plate of garlic and beetroot.

Ginger 12/5/2008 3:54:29 PM
Have you noticed -nobody bashes the old ANC.Nobody bashes Mandela. Why - cos the old guys paved a nice pathway to freedom. The new guys are clogging it up with weeds, rubbish and undoing all the good work with their behaviour. ANC is not what it once was. The new leader has a feet of Clay - not feet that can walk on water.

Ulaka 12/5/2008 3:57:23 PM
people are 2 faced!! - when it suits you anything that is said by the ANC is said by the ANC - Zuma represents the ANC they are one and the same. therefor if someone from the ANC said something about the leader its as if the ANC has said it and Zuma being the leader of the ANC has said it to. Or what?

Lehlohonolo 12/5/2008 3:57:46 PM
I refuse to be fed lies by some few narrow minded so called Christians. Jesus never condemned people rather saved people and forgave them, so what's the noise about. Zuma will be DEMOCRATICALLY elected as South Africa's President come 2009 elections, we the people will make him that and that's not a threat but reality. VIVA ANC Lastly please do not be RACISTS on your response, elevate yourselves above this crass behaviour and engage me on points I raise,

BD 12/5/2008 4:00:31 PM
ANC will be the cause of racial division within this country all over again. Before the previous elections you could feel things coming together. The truth of the matter is that the more arrogance the ANC shows the more I think of how wonderful the donkey looks. One day the racial tension will be too huge to contain and there will be war, and only once we have suffered will we appreciate the fact that we are all together in this sinking ship. So ANC well done, Mandela,sorry Uncle,we let you down

Lehlohonolo 12/5/2008 4:01:03 PM
I refuse to be fed lies by some few narrow minded so called Christians. Jesus never condemned people rather saved people and forgave them, so what's the noise about. Zuma will be DEMOCRATICALLY elected as South Africa's President come 2009 elections, we the people will make him that and that's not a threat but reality. VIVA ANC Lastly please do not be RACISTS on your response, elevate yourselves above this crass behaviour and engage me on points I raise,

M 12/5/2008 4:02:03 PM
Unfortunately I have no faith in our justice system since drunken judges can get off just because they are judges.If you have enough money or power the justice system will bow before you. The rest of us can't even afford a lawyer.

Antelope 12/5/2008 4:02:59 PM
dude, you crack me up...been a long slog of a week. At least I got a last Friday smile before hitting the traffic. thanks! I reckon the anc should compare jz to Mohamed or something, so them fundamentalists can come rid us of his idiocy...

T 12/5/2008 4:03:48 PM
Well done to a well thought out article! The sentence, "the ANC should put down that machine gun and stop shooting themselves in the foot. It's cringeworthy." is so apt! Let them continue to do so, they'll hang themselves, if not already. God will certainly not be mocked!! These men must be wary of that, and of the stupid statements they make. Well written, couldn't have put it better myself!

mkabayi 12/5/2008 4:04:05 PM
Charlotte, go and get a life! No one said Zuma is like Jesus. Can't you people read properly, or is your ANC/Zumaphobia blinding you. Please!!The News24 journalists/editors or whatever you call yourselves, who publish such rubbish infactual letters need to go back to school. Are you deliberately trying to stir trouble? Sies!! I know you won't publish my comment because the truth hurts.

Bonza 12/5/2008 4:04:48 PM
I don't think it is correct to interprete what the premier of Free State said to compare Jesus to Zuma, he was merely making an example, don't ingnore the fact that a politician put together the statement, kill and eliminate to them is different, so read between the lines people,and what happened to the freedom of speech line in the constitution, i guess what you saying is also an opinion which we respect. Give Zuma a break

M 12/5/2008 4:05:01 PM
So true. Maybe the cops charge a service fee directly from your credit card, before they come and help you get back your ball.But don't worry, when they catch them (Kolobe calls the poor souls), someone will tamper with the evidence or steal it.

Seema 12/5/2008 4:06:37 PM
Forgiveness is crucial afterall we forgave the coloniasts right !indeed Zuma will be democratically elected 2009 lets allow people to democratically voice out their concerns without name calling - we need the so called coloniast to build our country assuming you mean white people - Be a better man ntate and speak positive

Ulaka 12/5/2008 4:07:08 PM
The problem with democrazy is that 2 criminals votes count for more than a profit of peace and love. All Zuma getting into power will prove is how far behind the rest of the world majority of South Africans are in education, moral fiber, race equality and how easily the stupid masses can be conned into doing something that will altimately mean the death of them, lemmings jumping off cliffs comes to mind. Follow the antiiChrist Zuma to your deaths like your brothers in Zimbabwe. dont cry for help.

Azonic 12/5/2008 4:09:47 PM
Didn't you know bru?? White people have racism encoded into their DNA, we are racists by nature should we choose to say something the that the ANC doesn't want to hear. Why do blacks like to call all other colors that disagree with them, racists? Get over your own skin color, PLEASE!

M 12/5/2008 4:10:41 PM
Please de-tangle your sentences so we can all still understand you this late in the afternoon on a Friday.

Monique 12/5/2008 4:12:04 PM
Quiet!! I dont think you understand JESUS is never QUIET!!!!! And Zuma will get his Judgement day!!! May God have mercy on his soul!!!!

The Truth 12/5/2008 4:15:25 PM
Did you train hard to be such a huge moron or are you just a supremely gifted amateur? The fact of the matter is that your Free-State chairman,"Ace" (what a contradictory name),compared Zuma's suffering to Christ's.The more you ANC lot try and explain your way out of the shit,the deeper you find yourselves in it.Just keep quiet rather.Roll on Elections 2009!

Tsholo 12/5/2008 4:19:01 PM
What you are saying is plain rubbish and demonstrates lack of common sense.

The Truth 12/5/2008 4:19:23 PM
I'll hazard a guess and say that you are too young to have fought for anything,but just as in the case of Mugabe's "war veterans" you are simply jumping on the gravy train and hoping to reap the rewards from the freedoms which others have fought for.You sir,and those like you,are nothing but gravy sucking leeches.

FREDDIE 12/5/2008 4:19:54 PM
Zuma will come to a fall like many people that have used the Lords name in vain to promote their importance. JZ is a common criminal and a scurge to every decent law abiding south african citzen

Ginger 12/5/2008 4:20:35 PM
A Black president for South Africa is great and infact essential - but please one that is not an embarrassment to our country.Choose somebody like Mandela who has dignity. So many people dislike Zuma because he is an idiot and they can see it. This does not make them racists it makes them realists.

The Truth 12/5/2008 4:26:54 PM
that the majority of good people in South Africa (including those in the ANC) want to vote this man in as president next year! Even though he was found not guilty of rape and will in all likelihood also get off on the fraud,money- laundering and corruption charges,just think of the ever lasting filthy stigma which will be attached to our country if we give him that honour.Any vote for Zuma and the ANC is a wasted vote in my eyes.

Jan 12/5/2008 4:27:27 PM
hahaha, what a joke. I was wondering how long it would take before the same "racist" bullshyte came out of your mouth. Get a life, your democracy has proven, like all other AFRICAN states, to be a pile of shyte that will burn in your hands. And this time, IT CAN BURN, like everything else you touch.

Joe333 12/5/2008 4:32:34 PM
No Bonjo, you have it wrong! History will judge the ANC and people like you harshly. History will show that, rather than taking the morel high ground after apartheid, you chose to embark on the road of revenge against everything that is not ANC. History will show that the ANC is no better than what the NATS were. History will show that you are nothing but a bunch of racist bigots who destroyed the country in your mad rush to Africanize everything. No Bongo, you are wrong!!

Kuniva 12/5/2008 4:35:17 PM
point of correction Ginger. The ANC has always been bashed. Mandela was called a terrorist! Some people hated it so much they gunned down Chris Hani! So get ur facts straight before u show how ignorant you are

BD 12/5/2008 4:35:23 PM
and proud to have a brain to make that choice. Who is with me!! Call me racist, I don't care, but people who know's me know I don't mince my words, I call a spade just that. by the way Zuma means peace, healthy, new day, running horse, what a failure to his own name.

Rainbow Nation 12/5/2008 4:53:52 PM
News24 = White Media??? Have you gone & lost your mind?!? Do you seriously think they would not have gone the BEE & AA way yet? What the hell are you doing here reading the letter section anyway if you don't even believe the news?

boerinbeton 12/5/2008 4:55:44 PM
The difference is Jesus is righteous. Jesus is Holy. Jesus is the son of God. Jacob Zuma is not. Jesus proclaims peace. Not machine guns. Jesus opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. Likening JZ to Jesus in any way is blasphemous and ridiculous. Even non-christians find this statement offensive. To the ANC. God will not tolerate this kind of self-righteous behaviour. The ANC is no longer a righteous organisation with the people's best interest @ heart and will not prevail. Halleluja

Trish 12/5/2008 5:38:07 PM
The Bible says that we must be aware that during the end times the devil will make all believe that he is the Messiah.....are we in the end times??????? It's time for ppl to: "TAKE OFF YOUR BLIND FOLDS AND OPEN YOUR EYES!"

shiznit 12/5/2008 5:50:09 PM
What's this "Anti-colonialism" crap you are talking about. Would you have preferred Africa to have stayed africa and stayed oblivious to the fact that the rest of the world was advancing? For one thing you would not have the education or the tools to submit your drivel!. A democratic vote is not defined by having 90% of your followers voting for you because they are uneducated and have no idea who/what they are voting for. This is why the ANC does not promote education.

Anon 12/5/2008 6:38:27 PM
The country is not in white hands - how can one tell? Look at Home Affairs, look at Eskom, look at the schools, look at the hospitals and look at the roads. We may have had a total screw up government (which we never want back) - but the municiple level workers who were white actually did know how to do their jobs. Now the ANC have kicked them out without training the new ones. It could have been a rainbow nation - because the whites were sure willing but the ANC were not.

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