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Precious Majola

South Africa
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Enforce saving culture

by Precious Majola
2009-07-03 12:05

Dear Editor,

There have been attempts by academics and policy makers to understand the nature of savings in South Africa. One side argues that the nature of family structures especially in black community where extended families are common.

You often find bread winners are limited in large part because many are unemployable especially the baby boomers. The immediate impact is, if a student in a family completes his/here degree instead of creating his wealth base at young age he/she must support the whole family.

You have to deposit monthly stipend to your parents and at the same time you have to repay your loan because many parents don't have education policies for their children. The most common reason is low salary which does not leave scope for savings.

On the other hand, some have argued that black elite or so-called black diamonds lives are luxurious and often time supported by high debt intake.

While this might be true but it only applies to the minority of the group. Overall, the culture of saving should be inherited or learned and also practiced phenomenon. The month of July is a saving month where many corporations deploy their employees in varies primary schools to teach and encourage kids to save.

Perhaps we have not stated the importance of saving. The country that is not saving adequately relies on foreign inflows which are volatile and could potentially create volatility in the currency.

Secondly, studies in economics have established that low saving rates is associated with low economic growth and ultimately low employment. The synonym of low saving rate is high debt rate and the challenge with a debt is you disadvantage the future generation by passing negative wealth.

Precious Majola

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Juan 7/3/2009 12:12:17 PM
Yesm well, if the anc government didn't tax the hell out of us, we'd hve some money to save.. Fortunately our tax money goes to IMPORTANT things like JZ's Multimillion rand party for him and his little buddies, new mercedeces for mayors etc.

Glock 22 c 7/3/2009 12:15:49 PM
Correct and at the same time must enforce population control too.

Frank 7/3/2009 12:20:28 PM
Precious, let's analyse the way most of SA will be able to save. It's either going to be a stokvel or the banks. Now let's look at the banks. You take your hard earned, already taxed, money and put it into a savings account. You are lucky and earn 6%p.a on your money. But wait iflation is 8%p.a which means that you have already lost 2% value. Then the banks are also so greatful that you allow them to use your money to give to other people that they charge you all sorts of monthly bank fees. At the end of the year you suddenly discover that you not only lost the inflation part of your money but also a whole lot of capital due to the fees as well. Then to make things worse the goverment also thanks you for saving by taking your already taxed money a second time by way of the interest earned, which as you have seen you really didn't earn after all. Stokvels are more or less the same, just without the bank charges but you are still losing in the long run. So please do tell how we are supposed to be "saving" anything?

Sello 7/3/2009 12:23:14 PM
Parts of your letter are true. Raised by a single poor mother, when i finally got a job at age 25, i had to start by buying her a house and its contents and monthly expenses, it's like trying to close a 30 years gap that was opened before i was even born. At same time, i had to also have a live myself. You dont want to know the debts i woke up in!!!! Now I'm smarter and slowly coming out of debts. There's no way i will do the same mistake with my children. My parents split for reasons i dont know, and i paid the price!!! But instead of crying and moaning, i had to stand and deliver myself out of this mess, which i have done pretty well, although slower than i wished.

Spiderman 7/3/2009 12:35:24 PM
Save! So that you can pay tax on your interest?! Pay, Pay, Pay, nothing more to say!

Sinudeity @Sello 7/3/2009 12:51:35 PM
You are the man Sello! My media24 hero.

Dean Sassmann 7/3/2009 1:00:43 PM
Tell me why gov does not push and market the RSA Retail Savings Bonds to people with Stockveld and saving clubs and just ordinary SA citizens.
No commission
No Risk
Interest
Guaranteed Returns

But one suggesting they should alter the fix period......

Trevor Gothan 7/3/2009 1:03:11 PM
Until our culture changes so that we can invest in a better future (e.g. our own children) rather than pay off indebtedness to the past (e.g. our parents) we will never come out of this mess. Its not a racial thing, but a cultural practice that shackles the economies of many African countries.

Tumelo 7/3/2009 1:09:57 PM
The only way we could save is if the greedy capitalists, like car menufacturers play game to the economic fundamentals. Basic economic principle, if demand is down prices should follow. Houses,cars,food,insurance,appliances, gadgets are more expensive than they were during the economic boom.

Gogirl 7/3/2009 1:18:55 PM
Make it worthwhile to save. You get nailed by the banks and the taxman - no use saving. I have done it for many years and all the time I am out of pocket. Now, I just spend my money. Banks should come to the party and really make it worthwhile.

Sarah 7/3/2009 1:24:51 PM
Hey! Sello is back! How is life around the camp fire these days? Oh, the savings issue - there is no incentive! I opened a savings account for my son the other day and it is "earning" 1% interest per annum. Seriously, it is better to just put the money in my bond & calculate how much interest I have "saved" myself and add that to the capital investment.

Simphiwe 7/3/2009 1:29:34 PM
I agree with Sello When I started working I immediately had 2 brother to look after and pay for my own study fees. saving is not easy, i dont blame my parents for not saving for me and my siblings but i will blame myself if I put my children in the same trap. I take any saving advice i get although not easy but I try. Devide your net income by 3 or 4 than save the1/3 or 1/4 for a rainy day, mine I use it for december holiday instead of using my bonus, that is strictly for my bond repayment. save even if its R50. its something.

Virgin queen 7/3/2009 1:31:46 PM
Juan i am not an ANC fan but i will tell you that tax is what makes this country function, without it you wouldnt be sitting in front of that computer writing that bull. Anyway most people cannot afford the basic things, saving is more a luxury especially with price hikes from electricity- property-brown bread, i agree with you though that we should save but then why put money in the bank to keep it there when you are blacklisted, you should be paying your debts. Ha ha ha.......

Francois Snyman 7/3/2009 1:38:08 PM
Perhaps it is time for an Regulatory Savings Rate of one per cent below a Bank's Prime Lending Rate and allow no Bank Charges whatsoever on Savings Accounts?

Trevor 7/3/2009 1:45:16 PM
@Tumelo. I agree bro, but a big problem is the ref (govt) is either asleep, does not know the rules of the game, or has been bought by the greedy capitalists. Greedy politicians also make the game very unfair!

MLS 7/3/2009 1:45:32 PM
The sad reality is that most people need to use all their income to pay for basic living expenses. However, I agree that children need to be taught the value of saving from an early age. What we have done is that we give our daughter a certain amount of pocket money each month which she must use for herself. It is not a large amount of money. If she wants to buy something which costs more than her pocket money she must save up for it. That avoids instant gratification and wasting of money, and she will value something more if she pays for it herself. We do spoil her sometimes by buying her something special when she has worked particularly hard at school, or she can earn more by doing extra chores around the house.

cuba -@Sello 7/3/2009 1:55:58 PM
well done buddy, i love your attitude of 'squaring your shoulders' and doing what has to be done,

anna 7/3/2009 2:03:47 PM
i agree that putting money in the bank might be a very good idea but spending all of it is a terrible idea.
find a worthwhile investment and let your money work 4 u

Dean Sassmann 7/3/2009 2:14:37 PM
Saving has to become a South African Culture thing.....
We (all) must learn to save and teach our kids to save its the only way, we will escape poverty.

phillip 7/3/2009 2:15:57 PM
It is all about our parent decision (self interest VS his or her children interest)In univerty Q for financial aid application,I was shocked to discovery that even a child whos he father own 5 taxis (excellent conditions)and 2 bottle store is on the Q,reason is his father have 3 wifes and his mother have 6 children while ohter 2 women have 3 and 4 children repectively.Personal greed even towards your own children is it wway to GO?No no no I think us youth (age of the truth)we should take these as lesson not to pass it to our own children.

Mandy 7/3/2009 2:29:58 PM
If only there was money left to save. However, it is important that we try and teach our children the importance of having a little nest egg. @Sello, you will be blessed. I still have to help my dad although it is not always easy. But, we do what we must because we love them.

Think Ahead 7/3/2009 2:41:23 PM
It is difficult to get into the habit of saving but it is up to you to make the effort. There is no excuse really.


Tina 7/3/2009 3:02:11 PM
@ Sello: I think the majority of us are in the same boat. Black & white. So happy that somebody at least has the guts to acknowledge the true situation for a change.

Dean Sassmann 7/3/2009 3:11:25 PM
Out of all this, and all thats said.

Saving is the only way to escape poverty.

Phehello 7/3/2009 3:13:50 PM
Agreed, savings is the way to go, people do not spend what you don't have. Do not make babies you can't afford! Poverty will end if we all start being responsible.

Gee 7/3/2009 3:45:15 PM
Very true. this year in Jan i made it a point to start saving something every month. I can only afford R500 after all my expenses but at least its something. You dont have to put your money in a savings account investigate various options like unit trusts etc. i know the markets are a bit tricky right now but at the end of the day it will be worth your while to investigate all opportunities available to you. And before you sign anything or commit make sure you know everything there is to know about the product. i work in the Insurance industry i should know..........

Dean Sassmann 7/3/2009 4:00:01 PM
Its a culture that needs to be taught.

At work i have started a savings club and now we have about 20 members all work mates and opened an 32 day call account at the bank and we save each month what ever we can.
And then in the first week in Jan we draw on our savings which include interest.

Its not about the club it the lesson learnt starting small and saving little it will amount to much and a lot.....

ChillyByte 7/3/2009 9:24:56 PM
If you save(deposit) R1000 in a savings account at any of the big 4 banks in South Africa and you make no further transactions for a year, you will be lucky to have R800 left of your so called savings. How can you call it a savings account and why bother? I have a big problem with the terminology used by financial institutions, it's all a big deception.

Margaret @ Spiderman 7/6/2009 7:29:09 AM
You don't pay tax on the first R21,000 interest in under 65 (R30,000 if 65 upwards). That is the interest on R262,500 if earning 8 percent. Have you saved that much yet? If not, don't winge about tax on savings.

Eles 7/6/2009 10:10:11 AM
Whilst I am 100% honest when it comes to tax I understand why people try jippo the system why on earth should one pay tax on interest when it is not your normal taxable income it is through your own hard work and efforts that you are able to save money the government is most certainly not entitled to that money nor is the bank for unnecessary charges - admin fee, transaction fee and service fee - separate fees but aren't they the same?. I also don't think government is entitled to rental income from a property you own it is your investment not the governments. Having said that I am lucky to find money to save I do my best but the increases can't keep up with inflation I think the best is to pay off all debts that you do have quicker and have a piggy bank somewhere safe.

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