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'The people you need'

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2008-11-24 11:52

Dear Editor,

The time has come again for us to vote for people to lead the country for the next five years. Politicians are rallying through the country to make promises to the voters promising to relieve unemployment and poverty.

The one system that will surely remain is affirmative action and BBBEE but is the system sustainable? South Africa wants to be competitive internationally with regards to quality of products and services thus the majority of local companies are allocated their ISO 9001 standard accreditation to conform to the international standard of their product and their services.

However one of the standards of ISO 9001 is: "Clause 6.2.2 Competence, awareness and training". As a quality auditor I have found huge discrepancies in this area as many workers are found not to be competent.

This is not to be blamed on the individual. They were appointed to ensure compliance to the AA policy. The result is that poor quality work is delivered at the cost of the company with the result being a lower quality product. The "proudly South African" initiative had me excited in the beginning, but it is a total oxymoron now.

Why there is still affirmative action in our country when we already have a skills shortage? In SA Africans make up the majority of the population at just over 38 million, or 79.6%. The white population is estimated at 4.3 million (9.1%), the colored population at 4.2 million (8.9%) and the Indian/Asian population at just short of 1.2 million (2.5%). According to the mid-2007 estimates from Statistics South Africa, the country's population stands at some 47.9 million

Unemployment is currently at 26%, which means 12.454m people are still unemployed in South Africa. Fifteen percent of white South Africans are without work or income, totaling 0.65 million. The white population does not even make a dent in the employment. And how many emigrate every year?

Unfortunately whites have been unfairly advantage in the past and are the more skilled people, but to live up to international standards, these are the people you need. This is a minority of people that can provide skills, knowledge and expertise to train our fellow countrymen, seeing that the government does not provide it.

The ANC recently promised five million jobs to the selected unemployed and poor voters, but five million to offset the 12.454million unemployed won't make a difference seeing that there is a growth of population of 2.9 million over the same period that they plan to create the jobs.

The reality is that there are already approximately 1 million vacancies in SA of which most are in the Government departments. There are over 45 000 vacancies advertised in the job mail alone. If the unemployed can not even fill these positions how are they going to fill the newly created jobs?

The political party that brings a policy that will answer these questions and abolish AA and BEE will court foreign investors and clients will be attracted to quality products and services that SA will have on offer. To educate, train and equip people with the necessary skills so that they are competent, trained and aware in their jobs is the answer.

Once we have mastered this, then the government can create more jobs.

Werner van der Merwe

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LJvRvO 11/24/2008 12:08:15 PM
Tell that to the blind ANC leaders leading the blind!

He Who Knows 11/24/2008 12:10:55 PM
Nice to hear someone saying it like it is, without worrying about a barrage of insults from the ANC lackeys and incompetent AA "wekkahs", which is sure to follow!

Juan 11/24/2008 12:19:27 PM
I can see that you put some research into this, and you can back it up with numbers. But there will be some stupid people here calling you a racist, ironically to defend our so-called government's racist aa policies! 'Democracy' means equal rights, so there's NO way we can call SA a democracy when there are human right infringements such as AA.

Wackwack 11/24/2008 12:24:53 PM
Well written & researched.

wb 11/24/2008 12:27:31 PM
But you are speaking to a brick wall my friend! The ANC have the whole country fooled by making them think BEE & AA are going to create jobs for masses yet it is doing the absolute opposite yet they do not care as long as it brings in the votes!

Ginger 11/24/2008 12:39:54 PM
Well said and researched. I always thought that the replace whites just because they were whites was killing the goose that lays the golden egg. Jobs should be applied to skill not colour, age, sex or even connection (plenty of ANC nepotism going on). If the competent do the job regardless of criteria a company will florish - as simple as that. Besides that only the qualified can truly train the unqualified - sort of apprentice like. If you have no trainers how can anybody learn?

Mike 11/24/2008 12:43:53 PM
Great article,what the stats do not show and what is not advocated in the media is the dismal performance of job creation if for example the goverment rave about 160000 jobs created in a year it means they could only cater for 10% of the african male in the age group 30-34.Furthermore if you take into considaration the the white male for the same group is more or less at 130000 one wonders how the principle of AA/EEA can be promoted in any way.

Stryder 11/24/2008 12:43:58 PM
It would be interesting to see what proportion of the required skills are represented by which race groups. It would augment the information in this article. The racist ANC government and the racists who support the ANC will never do away with AA or BEE, why should they?

Jabu Pule 11/24/2008 12:46:28 PM
You sound like a DA or COPE supporter. ANC will keep BEE and AA. I will vote for ANC.

MasterMind 11/24/2008 12:46:57 PM
Well said Werner, I agree with you completely, the unfirtunate thing is, wait till the rest of the comments start on here, you are wbout to be chastised for being a minority, white, afrikaans, racist and only want to further your own economic policies at the expense of the "haai shame, poor black people". I wish SA would get off their collective butts and do some work, cos I am sick of the governement having to bail their sorry asses out on false promises to secure votes.

Mike 11/24/2008 12:46:58 PM
On a more positive note,the one thing that we can draw from this is the fact that AA/EEA has brought back maybe a more competitive white male and that makes you more marketable on the international front.

Scorp 11/24/2008 12:47:01 PM
That is why I am immigrating to a country that needs my well earned skills and are willing to look beyond racial barrier and employ me for what I am. ANC please phone me when you finished screwing up this country completely... We will be able to fix it just, as we have kept this country together and working until now.

Kevin 11/24/2008 12:49:39 PM
Werner, really great article. It all makes sense and if you were in an objective debate you'd surely win. However, many have tried to debate this issue, and in a country of racial divide where the previously oppressed are now the oppressors, your idea of a wonderful, non-racial, democratic South Africa are still at least decades away. But knowing that there are still many skilled and intelligent people like you in South Africa gives most of us hope for the future.

TheMan 11/24/2008 12:57:38 PM
I have two degrees, and I am completing my third one mid next year. I am also in the middle of completing my Level 1 CFA. But Im not enhancing myself to make myself more marketable here, oh no, Im doing it to add more value to my new nation, where I will be going to soon. Im tired of working with amateurs in these surroundings. And when people call me a traitor for getting my qualifications here, and then leaving, they?re stupid(and I don?t care) because it was not handed to me?I PAID FOR IT MYSELF!!

Serious 11/24/2008 12:57:48 PM
Yes whites are more equipped to do the job. But I think the aim of BEE is to give those that didnt get that opportunity a chance."Level the playing field."It might be painful and not make sense but on the long run it will be good for all. Sometimes you have to force the issue to make something happen. If things were left as is & we called upon the conscience of those that were unfairly put in positions, we wouldn't see any change.Still,whites hold the most wealth & the best jobs.Has to change.

kgomotso 11/24/2008 12:58:01 PM
White hypocrites are complaining about BBBEE, quotas, been denied opportunities, compromising of quality and so forth. The truth of the matter is incompetent, uneducated, inexperienced whites people enjoyed been given high positions simply because colour. You were having a good time and would have preferred things stay that way.Now that tables have turned you complain of quality. Since when is a white man equivalent to quality.

B 11/24/2008 12:58:36 PM
Honestly, AA and BBBEEE is not here to make the country grow, its here to put up a strong middle class black population. what ever happens to the country as a result is of no concern to the ANC

JD 11/24/2008 1:02:23 PM
What bothers me most is this perceived concept that "if I'm doing better, the other guy must be doing worse." and vica verca. We'll only really prosper if everyone is doing better and wealth and prosperity isn't this limited resource that if that guy has it, i cant have it. Being employed or fullfilling a need in the community is contributing, and you are either doing or you are not

Robert Ndungane 11/24/2008 1:03:09 PM
Very well written argument. I absolutely agree; promises of jobs are not fulfilled, while a myriad of vacancies are available in government posts (as you stated). Maybe those million jobs are reserved for people with ANC connections?

Citizen 11/24/2008 1:03:54 PM
I agree. If sufficient jobs are created AA wouldn't be necessary.

Kal-El 11/24/2008 1:03:56 PM
On 12/09/2008 a very confused and disillusioned commentator, Mafutha, wrote a letter on this forum. He hailed the Zim deal as a VICTORY FOR AFRICA. Mafutha, I think it is time that you apologized for your extreme ANC-loyalist viewpoint which has proved to be terribly misguided and incorrect. Mbeki took 8 years of sitting around and waiting for something to happen. Do not ask me what he could have done ? There were many options but there should have been pressure, not friendship. Sanctions, not smiles. SA is a life line for Zim, so we had unique leverage to deal with the problem. Now the country has collapsed and people are suffering and dying. And still Mugabe has a grip on power! The wrongs of the past is still so fresh in our African history but still history repeats itself with oppression and dictatorship playing out in front of our eyes. I cannot help to think that Zuma says is saying what he thinks will make him more popular.

Sara 11/24/2008 1:05:54 PM
Thank you for a great article and how true! Just be prepared to be called a racist. After all, who needs skills when you can climb on the gravy train.

Angus 11/24/2008 1:06:15 PM
AA and BBBEE is all about creating opportunities for those who were kept from it. If one black man get a management job so much more opportunities is created because of UBUNTU that man will finance his younger brother and some of his other relatives. You call it yourselve, the majority 79,6 percent of South Africans are black 90.5 to be exact, what economic impact will there be on the country if more black people actually get jobs and become economically active, just imagine idiot.

Steph 11/24/2008 1:07:49 PM
Fantastic article

Kevin 11/24/2008 1:09:56 PM
Off the topic I'd like to say that News24 is a quality site that provides excellent news and information for all South Africans. I would like to see News24 ban racists from commenting on this site as there is no place for them. eg Jabu Pule...

Lucidum 11/24/2008 1:18:28 PM
Werner, Nice effort - albeit somewhat misleading in cetain respects: Firstly, not all almost 50 million people in SA are or want to be economically active - some are still beng suckled, others are happily retired, but more than 50% of the population is younger than 18. Your statement therefor that at 26% unemployment 12,5 million people are unemployed is slightly off target. A populiast movemnt (ANC needs hungry people so they can stay in control!

MasterMind 11/24/2008 1:18:32 PM
Wait for it !!!! Wait for it !!!

kd 11/24/2008 1:23:28 PM
Jabu, do yourself a favor. Go to ORTIA, stand at the International Departures and count how many skills are departing for other lands. Don't count the white faces, only the skills. Then go home, light your candles and kiss the way forward goodbye.

VG 11/24/2008 1:23:30 PM
TO my understanding, BBBEE requires that when there are two candidates of SIMILAR/EQUAL experience and qualification, then the non-white person should be appointed. So, if you are correct, then the problem seems to be that companies appoint the black candidate regardless of competency. This means that it's the implementation of the act, not the law itself that is at fault.

Ulaka 11/24/2008 1:25:14 PM
that Goverment impliments strategies to unite the country instead of devide - the day that AA and BE are dropped - the day quotas are scrapped forever - the day that the goverment starts placing funds for development at grass roots level in the places needed - the day that govermnet builds 1st class schools in all provinces. Will be the day that the a truely non racial country will begin and the day that the birth of a world power will be. Until then expect racism. Expect sub-standard.

VG 11/24/2008 1:28:39 PM
TO my understanding, BBBEE requires that when there are two candidates of SIMILAR/EQUAL experience and qualification, then the non-white person should be appointed. So, if you are correct, then the problem seems to be that companies appoint the black candidate regardless of competency. This means that it's the implementation of the act, not the law itself that is at fault.

ElectroMan 11/24/2008 1:31:24 PM
In SA the African and coloured populations are also outgrowing whites by far. (Taking in account the many whites leaving & African and coloureds mostly affected by HIV.) Most whites work in the private sector, due to AA and this makes the competition for higher position more difficult, because most of the private sector is in white hands. The negative social relations developing because of AA is far greater than what can be achieved when opening up the gates. Apartheid is over, MOVE ON...

leelee 11/24/2008 1:31:45 PM
You have nothing to worry about cause you HAVE a job, so keep voting ANC to keep it. Ignoramus

cedb00 11/24/2008 1:35:09 PM
Werner, what you are saying makes perfect sense, but unfortunately you are wasting your breath, my friend. The ANC is only interested in short-term gain to woo their brainwashed voters, and definitely not interested in long-term sustainability. The only result you can expect from this is being called a white privileged racist. Wait for it.......

colin 11/24/2008 1:40:15 PM
According to Werner every AA appointment is a process of appointing an incompetent black person in a position he/she is not qualified to do. I am a black graduate and most of my friends who are black also have degrees in various fields and all of them contribute successfully to the success of the companies they are associated with and have even improve operational and administrative procedures to increase productivity and promote effectiveness. I also am employed by a company were bulk of the Top management and the staff are black - this company has seen positive growth for the last 10 years and at the same time it has vigorously promote the AA mandate but at the same time delivered the required results both operational and from a financial point of view. I have seen allot of incompetent white people in the labour market - were people do not even have the basic computer skill of applicable qualifications but they have been groomed into positions for which they do not even understand the basic fundamentals.

ElectroMan 11/24/2008 1:43:01 PM
1. Experience and leadership by those who have been there; 2. One good manager rubs off on 3 assistant managers (presently 1 bad manager rubs off on the whole department); 3. Social relations have a chance to develop between cultures (presently walls divide cultures; those who have been ousted live in hate, but also regret might be put right only by actual interacting in the new SA work place). 3. Unemployment and migration drops; 4. SA's image can be restored in everyone's eyes; 5. Harmony!!

LVN 11/24/2008 1:44:05 PM
I think your point is made. But to approach your argument statistically, please note the following: not all citizens are eligible workers/part of the workforce. The amount of the jobless cannot be taken as 26% from the full 47.9m as many of these are under the age of 16 (minimum working age) or above 65 (pensioners). The workforce, out of whom the unemployed is calculated, is much less than 12.45m.

Derrick Watts 11/24/2008 1:46:24 PM
Well Done Werner on a brilliant article.Its a pity though how people read this and pull the racist card even if its subliminally.The ANC she's too straung!Was that 79%?I'll bet my bottom dollar only 5% follow cope or DA.Its sad,Our country's on a downward spiral to another ZIM.Feel like crying.How long can the 'white man' hold out before he snaps?

Lehlohonolo 11/24/2008 1:51:02 PM
To educate, train and equip people and then exploit them.

Ands 11/24/2008 1:52:37 PM
AA and BBBEE has made white South Africans wanting to stay in SA more resiliant. In business we look after ourselves and will do until all racist laws are dropped, we have no option. It is called survival.. It is a similar sinario to the sanctions SA had to endure pre 1994. We became dependent on no one. I want the day were there are jobs for all but AA is not the way to get there.

Leon 11/24/2008 1:54:50 PM
I dont know the stats but you ommited to calculate how many of the population are children or pensioners. The 12 million unemployed (26%) includes minors which should not be counted. Lets say 50% of the 12 mil are minors or too old to work. That leaves you with 6 mil you need to employ. creating 5 mil jobs goes a long way to solve that problem. I am however sceptical about the 5 mil jobs figure given the major infrastructure spending and increase in police and teachers does not make a dent.

Greg 11/24/2008 1:55:55 PM
How do you expect an ignorant and uneducated governing party to even comprehend your email? There mentality, which is obvious to all of us, is i want i want i want, with no work because they took and took and took... this is the sad legacy of Apartheid. If everyone worked together, identified as Saffa's, we would need no AA, because empowerment falls onto the shoulders of the individual instead the state. but sadly, ANC won't make any money like that.. aahh the minimum shareholder requirements.

Quality 11/24/2008 1:59:24 PM
I read this article with huge disappointment that auditors/people like you connects AA/BEE with quality. This proves that there is still a very long way to go. 1. As an auditor how did you manage to get the information that problems you found were due to AA/BEE? I assume you were auditing the system's credibility. 2. Competence, awareness and training is the duty that an employer must afford the employee. If people were found to be incompetent, not trained etc., where does AA/BEE comes in?

Thembisile 11/24/2008 2:01:45 PM
I think the AA/EE POLICY has reached its sell by date, i am black and i want to get a job based on my skills not on colour of my skin, it is time to level the field, let us face it in south africa whether we like it or not we need white people, if not who will employ the thousands of our fellow black people emakisheni.it is time to build our country and take it forward.Olny a few have benefitted from AA/EE policies and i ask is this fair for the thousands of people who live in the townships?

leelee 11/24/2008 2:01:46 PM
Kgomotso get off this forum, you have absolutely no respect for human beings. I can turn your argument right back on you. I agree with Kevin blatant racist bashing "since when is a white man equivilent to quality" should not have appeared on this forum. Kgomotso according to you, you have become supperior to any other human being on this earth, where did you get this right.

Pangea 11/24/2008 2:02:36 PM
You can argue till you blue in the face. The ANC is obsessed with colour and they firmly believe whites must pay for the past. However they forget that the world economy has changed and there are plenty of job opportunities around the world if you qualified. If we continue in this vain we are going to find ourselves out competed by China, India and other countries in the east, look at the states with the three big motor corporation that decided to create their own delusional reality and now Japan is taking their market from them. So if you are not wanted say in the Navy then you can work on an Oil Rig for R 80,000 + a month. Talk about cutting of your nose to spite your face! The ANC needs a good dose of reality.

Robert Ndungane 11/24/2008 2:06:27 PM
I have yet to see ubuntu function. The love of money is the root of all evil. One good example, the sports and recreation department and corruption (see this mornings article). If only people would do ubuntu instead of speaking ubuntu!

nthatuwa 11/24/2008 2:09:29 PM
Don't white business people benefit somewhat from BEE?I know a handful and I think there are more...I'm no racist,but how many white business people do have out there?A LOT,IS IT SO WRONG TO WANT TO @ LEAST UPLIFT PREVIOUSLY DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE?WHITES,WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IF YOU WERE THE ONES WHO WERE PREVIOSLY DISADVANTAGED?HMM.

GailC 11/24/2008 2:10:37 PM
The skilled people are leaving from all races because they can not use the skills they have acquired without the tools to do so. Providing clinics without medication for the sick and dying is one example. Not maintaining equipment to do this is another problem. Using ex-taxidrivers as VIP security is another. Electroman u make sense.

Lucky Ralawe 11/24/2008 2:14:44 PM
by those who either want them 2 fail, or who want the economy 2 remain in white hands. Nowhere in the Employment Equity Act or the BBBEE Act is mention made that people should be appointed merely 'coz they belong 2 a certain race. The intention is 2 deracialise the economy, which btw still remains largely in white hands, thanks to apartheid. White employers always chose their own kind, and had 2 b forced 2 apply AA. BBBEE applies only 2 companies that want govt business with a black majority gov.

Win 11/24/2008 2:15:22 PM
Is what I say. So how does one know they been employed for their skills or for the colour of their skin? If a black/white guy has the skills, he has the job. If a person is too lazy in the job, get rid of him as there are others out there that need it and can provide for their families. Simple. Politics is found in too many things accompishing too little.

Nicole 11/24/2008 2:17:19 PM
AA in any way or form will never work because it is the african way (no I don't mean black, I mean the continent) to squander wealth and expect handouts. It is easier to beg on the side of the road than to do a days work in a factory. Until we stop being "proudly african" in all the wrong ways we will never have a balance of wealth or skills. Simple as that, and why would I train up a person when it will result in me being retrenched/fired so that a black face can fill my seat. RUBBISH!

Lucky Ralawe 11/24/2008 2:21:07 PM
By the way, it is people who R prejudiced who want 2 retain the status quo ante who do not understand the rationale for the 2 pieces of legislation. SA's democracy being a negotiated settlement, things are being done within the confines of the law (Constitution), which all the parties that were represented at CODESA agreed 2. Apartheid & those who voted 4 it created this situation which is being reversed as it was not going to reverse itself. Emigrate for those who wish to. It's a free country

AJ 11/24/2008 2:22:45 PM
It is implementation thereof that sucks - existing employees having to take up the slack of AA beneficiaries who should NEVER have been given the job. Deprives white guys of jobs and gives deserving AA candidates a bad name, which is also unfair.

mlungisi 11/24/2008 2:25:24 PM
Wake up this is South Africa. Whites stop mourning, now it is time you start looking at your qualifications careful. The majority of you are still enjoying high positions, even though they don't have qualifications. That time has gone pass, you need to wake up. The color of your skin is not equal to quality. Hard work result to quality. To many uneducated white people gets employed.

AJ 11/24/2008 2:25:28 PM
You state: "According to Werner every AA appointment is a process of appointing an incompetent black person in a position he/she is not qualified to do" - He did not say that at all, and you know it - dont let the facts get in the way of a good race card, hey!

Zaid 11/24/2008 2:26:24 PM
fill the coffers of corrupt officials and to enrich your mate who lived next door to you or who grew up with you in the townships. Ask Indians and Coloureds how much they have benifited. To be in business in this country you still have to have black partners. Coloureds and Indians are black se moer. We only black when you want our vote!

Zaid 11/24/2008 2:28:20 PM
As for those who have the knowledge, knowledge transfer does not take place. Ask the non-whites who have been setup in companies to fail. The whole system is a farce, and as long as it is in place, only a few will reap the rewards.

Werner van der Merwe 11/24/2008 2:38:17 PM
@Quality: If you look at the gov stats they also say 12 mil unemployed. Statistics SA gave it all. Yes it is duty of employer to give training, but at what cost and time?@ Colin I agree, I am working with your caliber as well, some better than me, but your in the minority. What I am saying is, skilled can train the unskilled to built the nation.

Neil Grobler 11/24/2008 2:45:44 PM
I work in a world class company that has applied BEE, but not compromised on competance or work-ethic. As a result, I have competant, qualified, professional colleague of all races. BEE can work, but only as an interim measure. I beleive that it is time to let it go. All school leavers at this moment have started their schooling in post-apartheid SA, so for them, there has been no "previous advantage" that requires adressing. Keeping it merely promotes a racist agenda now.

Lucky Ralawe 11/24/2008 2:51:22 PM
Black people R not shadows of any racial group. Assuming you R Indian, I'm sure u would take offence @ being described as "non-black." You seem not to understand the legislation which you are critising as it also caters for Indians and Coloured 2. Decoloniese your mind. Yes, if your company is white and you want to do business with a black majority government, you had better have black partners. That's how the economy's being deracialised. Otherwise stick to doing business with your own kind.

Duzi 11/24/2008 2:54:46 PM
I agree with AA and BBBEE and I am a young white male. Our forefathers disadvantaged those before us and therefore the wrongs should be corrected... however, I still don't understand why I must suffer, when I wasn't even around in those days?! As for people like Jabu and Kgomotso... mates, why do you need to insult people for their views? Or are you in fact the racist?

Lucky Ralawe 11/24/2008 2:55:08 PM
Speak for yourself. I don't see you backing your silly arguments with any fact, other than your misdirected anger. Are you sure you have qualification? By the way, that disgraced Shabir Shaik is Indian and also calls himself black. It seems you want to be "black" only when you want to benefit under AA. Apartheid has really damaged your brain.

Purviss 11/24/2008 3:00:08 PM
In a country with 25%+ unemployment and a huge skills shortage, it is insane to implement AA/BEE policies. It is ANOTHER failure of the government to provide its citizens with proper education and skills based training. The government has now left the responsibility with white people to solve this problem. It's even more worrying that the government is shifting more and more of their responsibilities onto the citizens. According to them we are responsible for our own security, education, etc...

MasterMind 11/24/2008 3:09:16 PM
Kudos to Colin, Ulaka & Robert Ndungane - sense so true, others are pure ANC rhetoric and living on a black vs white principle created by "your" government. The whole ANC is racist thru and thru, and if you think a few well placed Carl Niehaus's and Kortbroeks are going to fool us, keep on trucking fools... & nthathuwa, we would have got off our butts and worked for it, not get a hand out !!!

Greg 11/24/2008 3:10:25 PM
Sir, it is our intention to uplift and empower ALL individuals as SOUTH AFRICANS UNITED! I for one do not want to fight with any man from our proud nation! I am prepared to do anything and all necessary to help empower! But sir, it is the WAY and the HOW these policies are implemented which is not right. The poor REMAIN poor, the ANC becomes richer! Thats where OUR problem lies! Do not think we base these decisions on race! Pls friend, allow us time 2 right the wrongs, we can only do it TOGETHER!

BD 11/24/2008 3:13:22 PM
Then we can build together....maybe

sonny 11/24/2008 3:18:52 PM
do you need a hug????

MasterMind 11/24/2008 3:19:59 PM
I told you so Bro'. Just look at the responses of the brainwashed masses..... PMSL..... The truth comes out every time, they all say emigrate if we want to - what a joke - that is what they want in reality, MAD BOB started it and they all believe it, Africa is for blacks only !!!! I pity such stupid thinking and ideology....

Mandla 11/24/2008 3:23:40 PM
The truth hurts Kgomotso, I know a lot of incompetent whites in the 15years working in the Civil Engineering industry. I will also ask the same question: Since when is a white man equivalent to quality. Quality my foot!!

Fish 11/24/2008 3:37:52 PM
Calling people racist names because they present work for which you do not agree makes you the racist. Instead of name calling, why don't you research and present a decent argument?

Ginger 11/24/2008 3:41:49 PM
The attitude always seems to be - if you don't like it leave the country. This is bulldust. If we don't like it - we should fix it. Employment agencies should give all prospective employees a test on the skills of the job they apply for - regardless of colour, age and sex. If they pass they can be considered for interviews. If they fail - they don't get sent for the interview. Look at the state Home Affairs is in right now because of employing untrained people.

Kal-El 11/24/2008 3:50:29 PM
The ideology behind AA is a system to make right what is wrong. But in reality, AA is a racist policy that appoints incompetent blacks in stead of competent whites. This due to companies who are desperate in getting the AA numbers right in a time where there is immense skill shortages.

GailC 11/24/2008 3:55:11 PM
The bottom line here is there were never enough skills in the white community to transfer across to the much much larger African community. Also, I believe that Africans have some skills which whites should acquire and technology too is not always the way to go. I am now in possession of fully computerised Metering which cuts out the meter readers? Where to for them I ask myself?

Cooler box 11/24/2008 3:56:25 PM
So, are you saying 4.3 million (9.1%), is what SA need to bolster the economy of the country. This 9.1% is what the SA cannot do without. Surely, you must be dreaming. I suppose this small percentage which is necessary for the well-being of the country includes children and pensioners. A stupid article indeed.

Kenroid 11/24/2008 4:27:38 PM
BUT implementation was virtually immediate! I think that AA and BBEE is what SA does need...but making it an immediate transition was foolhardy! It should have been a gradual process, but instead it was pounced upon by those with friends in high places!!! I think that in some cases (not all) the only people who benefited from "ubuntu" were those with high placed friends! The concept of AA and BBEE is a good one, but implementation in SA was a joke!!!

Kenroid 11/24/2008 4:31:17 PM
100% Agree with you there...I'm all for empowerment but with the gap between the wealthy and the poor is widening at an alarming rate! The rich get richer...the poor get poorer! 2 things can happen - either the system gets working...or we all need to teach ourselves how to become rich! Entitlement is the downfall of any country - its happening in America and we are following!

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Max@PoliaDonkey says... You are and idiot. He is not the youth's president. He is the so-called president of the A(frica's) N(ew) C(ancer) youth league. He is not my president and I did not vote for him, because he is as big a nutjob idiot as you are! Read the article...

Cpt: 14-18°C Light rain. More clouds than sun. Mild. Pta: 15-31°C A few showers. More sun than clouds. Warm.
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Dbn: 18-25°C Light rain. More clouds than sun. Mild. PE: 14-23°C Morning clouds. Mild.
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