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1% tax for SABC 'a sin'

by Anonymous
2009-11-03 09:07

Dear Editor,

Here we go again. Yet another state owned agency / department is mismanaged into a huge financial crisis, and yet again the working class is going to be forced to cough up and rescue the idiots from their own stupidity.

This idea that the working class MUST always be taxed for everything and everyone is making me sick. We must do nothing. It is even worse when we are forced to pay for someone else's deliberate stupidity and self-enrichment.

Let us do some maths. Currently a TV licence is around R240 per annum.

I earn R300 000 per year. This means that my TV licence will now increase to R3 000 per annum! Wow, that is nice... so our friends running the SABC can earn bigger bonuses and enrich themselves even more.

My last thought - it is one thing if you tax me for food, water and basic services essential to the survival of the poor. But to tax me for entertainment? Come on, surely everyone can see this is an unacceptable idea.

Let us all stand together and boycott these fools.

Anonymous

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SimonP 11/3/2009 9:19:57 AM
SABC is in financial meltdown due to cadre deployment and the tax payer gets hit with the bill? Absolutely ridiculous. This 1% will go where, straight into the next cadres pockets. Slowly but surely the country is going bust, shame the all powerful great leaders we have and their supporters cant see it

Mo 11/3/2009 9:23:21 AM
All of this is one grand scheme, for the comrades to get TV for free while the working class pays on their behalf.

the drew 11/3/2009 9:23:58 AM
Are all the shack owners going to pay this fee? no, Its a fact! all you have to look at is zim.. everything went the same way. now look at it! south africa is on the same road and we seem to be speeding!

JIMBO 11/3/2009 9:42:02 AM
I agree , why not increase VAT instead , at least EVERYONE will then pay , and not the samll minority . But as we are being turned into A Socialist State one must expect more of the same , I dread next years Budget speech . Fasten your seat belts there is a lot more coming

andrew 11/3/2009 9:43:15 AM
MADNESS!!!

Solanie Blom 11/3/2009 9:46:13 AM
They want to tax us, but I do not even watch SABC as they do not cater for my entertainment needs.

blah 11/3/2009 9:48:05 AM
I would have to agree. There are far more important things for tax money to be spent on at the moment than television.

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest seeing the SABC being closed down.

Pleb 11/3/2009 9:48:37 AM
It is totally unacceptable that the ordinary taxpayer should make good for a bunch of lazy thieving crooks. what a kakistocracy we live in. Close down the sabc and send the board both past board to robben island and throw away the keys

Sinudeity 11/3/2009 9:49:43 AM
Scrap TV licenses, and claim it from the bonuses and assets of the previous corrupt SABC management.

Sambok 11/3/2009 9:50:57 AM
Agreed. I do not watch SABC, it's crap. I feel that DSTV can remove the said channels from my bouquet. Why do I need to pay if I do not use it? It's like paying tax for water if you have a borehole. What's next? Paying tax for public transport if you own a car?

BigBang 11/3/2009 9:53:53 AM
Mine will increase from R240 to R12,000 per annum. That is a 5000% increase.

Lou 11/3/2009 9:56:57 AM
Let's boycott the companies that advertise with the SABC.

Carl 11/3/2009 9:58:00 AM
I think it is high time that all South Africans who want to see a properly run capitalist democracic country stand up and start fighting for our rights. I have had enough of these greedy idiots messing it up for everybody.

BT 11/3/2009 10:01:25 AM
I must say that I am vehemently opposed to violent (and destructive) strikes and demonstrations, which appears to be the norm in SA. In this instance, however, I feel that as a tax payer, who doesn't even bother watching SABC, I would be prepared to join all other tax payers in showing our displeasure of this idea. It is nothing short of blatant theft. I would, for once, even go as far as to say, that I would gladly contribute to the total destruction of the SABC buildings and equipment, if this idea is legislated. Eneogh is eneogh!!

Eles 11/3/2009 10:03:00 AM
I agree 100% I was handed over by SABC to another company wanting their license money despite the fact that i can prove I have already paid? The person who contacted me was most rude, treated me like a criminal accusing me of lying despite the fact I can prove I paid? Am still awaiting an apology. That I pay is because I must, I don't watch any SABC viewing it is atrocious and don't think we should have to pay for viewing they should make their money from selling programmes and advertising and stop wasting money on large undeserved bonuses and revamping unnecessarily (sounds like other government departments). If government continues at this rate there will be no working class we will all be poor awaiting handouts. TV is not a right it is a luxury. To tax us for SABC would be a gross infringement of our rights and the simple fact is that they just want to throw money at their problems instead of fixing them - appoint people to the board who actually know something about programming. If they give them this money what will it be next year 2% - here's an original idea hows's about getting rid of all the dead wood at the SABC and actually doing some work like the rest of us!

hpe 11/3/2009 10:08:42 AM
What worries me is that the various taxes we pay (never mind Eskom saga)are not accounted for individually. Thus, there is a central 'bottomless pit' into which all taxes disappear, much to the convenience of the ANC.

Banana 11/3/2009 10:09:03 AM
This is a joke, the government deployed its cadres to pillage SABC and now its broke they expect the public to bail it out. Only in a banana republic full of blind idiots would a government get away with this.

Ghwappie 11/3/2009 10:09:16 AM
If their programming is so cr@p that it cannot attract enough revenue from advertising to survive without handouts,(like e.g. E-Tv), pull the plug on them. No use flogging a dead horse. NOBODY WANTS THEM!
Last time I checked, it's actually illegal to charge someone for a service you did not provide, it's called fraud.


LSA 11/3/2009 10:11:10 AM
They seem to be finding new ways all the time to screw us!!! Households with 2 or more taxpayers are going to feel it the worst. I wish i knew how to with-hold tax, this government is getting greedier by the day. They are not happy with their personal kitty of R600 billion, now they want more.

7x57 Mauser 11/3/2009 10:19:16 AM
What are all of you crying about. You where warned many times before you voted yes in the referendum. idiots

Duzi 11/3/2009 10:19:22 AM
Maybe a potential solution would be for the Government to add 1% to the VAT that EVERYONE pays when purchasing?

That way not only tax payers are affected, a lot more money will be brought in and hopefully we will finally start getting some decent TV from those idiots at SABC...

hw 11/3/2009 10:19:41 AM
Was very surprised yesterday that everybody was so for the scrapping of the TV Licence - we could all have foreseen that no good would come out of this.

Clintonv 11/3/2009 10:29:42 AM
"You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government
cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
Adrian Rogers, 1931

Glock 11/3/2009 10:30:14 AM
Viva Anc , Cant wait till the day they going down. That is the day I have a huge party...

Ouklip 11/3/2009 10:30:22 AM
@7x57 Mauser - Only idiots voted no.

Ross the WAM 11/3/2009 10:31:20 AM
This is only the beginning of socialist Azania. Soon we will have a swimming pool and jacuzzi tax. The licence fee for the week-end braai is also an option. Milk the cow to death.

James 11/3/2009 10:33:10 AM
Just close the SABC and let private companies take over broadcasting. The SABC is a pile of sh1t, no one would miss it if it disappeared. eTV manages on its own, I am sure that others would too. Yet another state entity smashed by the new state. Tick tock......

Jann 11/3/2009 10:34:56 AM
@Duzi. Sorry, no way! Can you imagine just how much money that would be? I think that you're being very optimistic regarding "decent TV" though. It would just mean that the morons who run the SABC could give themselves huge bonuses at our expense.

NonSense 11/3/2009 10:36:35 AM
Pay more tax so that a poorly managed, non-essential entity can continue to run at a loss??? If SABC can't hack it, then let them close down and give a private firm a chance to make a buck!

@Clintonv 11/3/2009 10:36:40 AM
So true but the question is: Why do African leaders not understand this simple formula? Too busy stuffing their own pockets I guess.

Lestor 11/3/2009 10:36:46 AM
Now really. I don't even own a tv, i havn't owned one for years and they want me to pay for SABC? That is just plain unfair. As some people have said their increases in license fee is unacceptable. But more importantly how can you rationalise making people pay for what they don't want?

Cynical 11/3/2009 10:39:03 AM
1% tax for SABC, plus 45% hike for Eskom, plus the National Health tax (whatever that will be), plus higher income tax if govt keeps falling short on revenue collection.....where is it going to end? Man this country is truly f****d and I'm so glad I'm leaving in a few months. (And to those who want to say good riddance, here's a middle finger salute for you!)

Jacques 11/3/2009 10:40:57 AM
My new "License" will cost my household R13200. Brilliant! That means that the SABC will cost me twice what I pay for DSTV!
Close down the SABC, nobody is watching anyway! Rubbish!

IandI 11/3/2009 10:41:17 AM
Can someone please close down this useless SABC Asap. The govt can them take it over, call it the SANC officially and get their own sponsors/party cadres to pay for it, not us taxpayers. Has anybody checked hoe eTV is financed? They don't get any TV licence money, or state grant? If so, why can't the SABC adopt the same business model?

POST MY COMMENTS PLEASE 11/3/2009 10:41:35 AM
This utter madness....if eTV can survive on its own, why cant the SABC...7x57 Mauser 11/3/2009 10:19:16 AM I did not vote them in.

Duzi @ Jann 11/3/2009 10:41:56 AM
Too true... I guess I was being optimistic at best! Oh well, either way, you and I, the normal law abiding tax payers get screwed yet again!

Michael 11/3/2009 10:42:03 AM
Only idiots voted No, and only idiots vote for the ANC.

Hiltonbe 11/3/2009 10:42:52 AM
I can honestly say that if this tax go ahead then I will do everything in my power to avoid pay income tax - something i have never actively tried to do but there is always a first - tired of the fat cat Cadre's getting bailed out at expense of the tax payer - broad based tax ala increase Vat is the way to go!

Juan 11/3/2009 10:44:51 AM
Dont raise tax, raise VAT!! So that EVERYONE pays!

BEN 11/3/2009 10:45:53 AM
TAX SASOL AND ALL POLLUTERS NOT US WE AR ALREADY POOR

Greg 11/3/2009 10:47:42 AM
Great so another win for the townships. First they don't pay electricity and it gets hiked so that Eskom can make up money, and now all the townships don't pay tv licences so we will get nailed again in tax which ... surprise surprise, most the people don't pay as they do not earn enough. Keep this up government. !

LSA@Cynical 11/3/2009 10:48:50 AM
Leaving is not an option for everybody at the moment. This country has gone down the toilet and is sitting in deep sh1t in the sewer. I would love to leave one day!!!

gatvol 11/3/2009 10:48:56 AM
If it weren't for our tax - government wouldn't get paid/or steal from. Maybe we should stop paying tax/strike, burn tyres and kill people, better yet, why doesn't government and the rest of them go and jump in the darkest abyss. Let those who want a desent SA run it.

FJ 11/3/2009 10:50:22 AM
Let the SABC drown!!!

NicoH 11/3/2009 10:52:31 AM
Stop complaining on the wrong forums. If you don't want to pay this, send your comments on the bill to the right people. All legislation is open to public comments so download the bill and the notice for comments from here and do something. http://www.doc.gov.za/images/stories/1-32663%2028-10%20comm.pdf

GKM 11/3/2009 10:53:50 AM
Get money from all those collection agencies that waste time, effort, money and energy, on sending me (a paid up TV licence holder) and my wife - threating sms's. Get them to pay back to SABC. When I do get through all the faceless automation to a person, I am informed that the SABC gave them my contact detail. I now tell them to please proceed with their threat as I'd like to meet them and the SABC in court, with the sms from SABC thanking me for paying my licence. This however does not stop them form sending sms's.

@ouklip 11/3/2009 10:54:10 AM
Call us idiots, truth is our predictions of what is going to happen to this country is turning into facts each day. Just lift your head out of the ostrich hole and see the mess in education, health to name but a few

Lucky Ralawe 11/3/2009 10:54:48 AM
I heard a very interesting comment on 702 this morn. The SABC is apparently going to adopt the same format as Multichoice. They can then cut the services of those who don't pay their licences.

I think the solution is to privatise.

Please get involved. We need to consult the Portfolio Committee on Communications and get hold of a copy of whatever piece of legislation the Department of Communications (and SABC) are proposing, and flood the Portfolio Committee with submissions opposing this sinful act which is being proposed. If we don't, it will become the law.

Dali 11/3/2009 10:55:19 AM
i hate feeling powerless like this ,these people need to ousted from power.sad thing is that the voters are so dumb they'll vote for these parasites until we're like zimbanwe...i thought SA was different from all these other countries in Africa but boy was i wrong!!!!

Johan Britz 11/3/2009 10:56:54 AM
I won't pay the 1% tax. I don't even have an aerial connected to my TV, and I don't have DSTV. My TV is used for DVD's and downloaded content only. I won't be taxed to help subsidize another ANC appointed cadre to get a new BMW (with optional extras). Screw that.

Sons 11/3/2009 10:58:06 AM
Why does this not surprise me at all?? Municipalities, SAA, everything the government has a finger in goes bankrupt or is soaked with corruption. They spend freaking millions on entertainment, hotels ext. but we have to pay for all their stuff-ups!! Cant wait for everything to explode in their faces.

mich 11/3/2009 10:58:10 AM
Clynical !! I wish I was you. Good luck, be safe and enjoy the life of more freedom, justice, many good night sleep and less fear.

Jeanne 11/3/2009 10:58:45 AM
Just close the SABC down, put the fat cats on the street. The SABC programmes are rubbish anyway.

Sarah 11/3/2009 11:08:27 AM
I'm with Cynical on this matter - My plan to leave the country is in action. I am not slogging my guts out to make a living, just to have every cent stolen to buy new mercs and houses in franschoek. bugger that.

twolips@cynical 11/3/2009 11:09:26 AM
Some of us simply can't leave even though we wish to.

Incorrect 11/3/2009 11:12:45 AM
Your calculation is incorrect...

Its 1% on the tax collected and not 1% on your total salary package...

So if you paid 10% tax on your package this would be R30 000 and 1% of this would amount to R300.

But yes I agree, why should we be made to pay for SABC incompetence and mismanagement.

The SABC should be privatised and be made to compete and provide value just as any other listed company in South Africa does.

Survival of the fittest!

Clinton 11/3/2009 11:12:51 AM
And if I don't own a TV? Am I still to be taxed? Can I be excluded?

SimonP 11/3/2009 11:12:54 AM
Good to see even the usual ANC sheep cant defend the government on the SABC issue.

LSA@Lucky Ralawe 11/3/2009 11:14:32 AM
Howzit bru!!! How do we get the contact details for Portfolio Commitee for Communications?

LSA@Incorrect 11/3/2009 11:16:33 AM
Actually numb-nut, its 1% of your salary package per annum!!!

majakathata 11/3/2009 11:16:39 AM
I have been following this website for almost two years now, and came to a conclusion that majority of people reading this site (more than 80%) are white. I agree entirely with the author and most responses, but other than complaining on this site, what are you guys doing about this issue? If i can organise a march or somithing, will you (whites) participate? the answer is no. In short you can coplain until you are blue in the face but unless you actually do something about it nothing will change, simple as that.

LSA@Lucky Ralawe 11/3/2009 11:18:37 AM
Sorry, one more thing. If that tax is implemented, then as usual it will be up to the employer to collect it and pay it over.

max 11/3/2009 11:19:52 AM
I have a tv which I watch videos and movies and documentaries on , but I refuse to pay for a tv licence as I never watch the great old SABC .The Airwaves are free and so should our tv broadcasts be . If there was something I wanted to watch then I would pay for it , but they have nothing that I would consider watching .dstv on the other hand , now that I dont mind paying for .

cc 11/3/2009 11:21:58 AM
CLOSE DOWN THE SABC, WHO CARES...

MP3 11/3/2009 11:24:23 AM
yeah, what if i don't own a tv?

Teutonic Knight 11/3/2009 11:24:29 AM
There is no way I will pay this 1%, there are many ways to kill a cat. They forcing us to be dishonest.

Ruard 11/3/2009 11:25:42 AM
@Majakathata. Thats because we all have jobs to go to during the day and we will get fired if we dont arrive for work, chop!

Brandt 11/3/2009 11:26:29 AM
@majakathata. I will support you. But no voilence and it must be a legal march.

Lucky Ralawe to LSA 11/3/2009 11:27:39 AM
Eitha!

Please go to www.doc.gov.za and www.parliament.gov.za. At the latter site you can browse through the different committees. Find the Communications' one and they should have laws there. I have not done so myself but will in a day or two.

TheComingRevolt 11/3/2009 11:27:53 AM
I can see that people are very angry at how the country is being run into the ground. I predict that soon reason will be thrown to the dogs and the ANC parasites will be shot at. This is surely coming.

Spiderman 11/3/2009 11:28:44 AM
Flood their ISP and mail system.

E-mail "No for additional tax to help you out!" to:

tvlic.info@sabc.co.za

Also cc. Department of Communications:

ali@doc.gov.za

johan 11/3/2009 11:33:00 AM
I will never pay it!!

Calvyn 11/3/2009 11:33:26 AM
To those suggesting an increase in VAT, think again, It would cause a snowball effect, higher prices on everything, causing employees to demand bigger increases every year, causing employers to increase their prices yet again, and so on etc

@Cynical 11/3/2009 11:35:52 AM
I'm with you dude. Can't wait till I'm out (which will be soon). Sad for those staying to rot in the cess pool.

M.L van Niekerk 11/3/2009 11:38:38 AM
I fully agree "Close down the SABC, nobody is watching anyway! Rubbish!" All that I watch is Afrikaans news 7 o clock, and some times 7 de laan.

MP3@majakathata 11/3/2009 11:42:10 AM
So majakathata please give me a few examples of when marching has actually truly helped... I missed those....

Spiderman 11/3/2009 11:43:46 AM
Flood their ISP and mail system.

E-mail "No for additional tax to help you out!" to:

tvlic.info@sabc.co.za

Also cc. Department of Communications:

ali@doc.gov.za

7x57 Mauser @ ouklip 11/3/2009 11:45:22 AM
Congrats for voting yes to rape,murder, pillage and communism. I'm sure you must be feeling like a champ right now. O yes and you are paying 1% extra tax for another corrupt institution you help voted in. idiot

Chris 11/3/2009 11:48:19 AM
Why do we need a SABC. If I prefer not to make use of this facility why should I pay tax to fund it? DSTV make use of its own transmission I prefer to use them.

Ernst 11/3/2009 11:51:34 AM
I agree: shut down the useless piece of crap.
But that won't happen, because it's "his master's voice..."
As usual, the (SMALL) productive portion of society will be bled even DRIER.

joe soap 11/3/2009 11:52:10 AM
quite simply, BEE (does that second E stand for eediot?) is sending a boy to do a man's work

Powerless 11/3/2009 11:54:06 AM
What next Eskom, Health Care, SABC where will it end. So sad that the people who run these organisations are so greedy and that the masses are so ignorant!!!!!!!!

mandy 11/3/2009 11:54:44 AM
Well, have just logged off from various travel agents websites. Looks like January we will be leaving this country. Finally, we have just simply had enough. Would rather sit out the gross weather in England, what's the point of living here anymore when quite frankly all we still have going for us is the weather but we can't enjoy it because we are in doors working those two to three jobs that we have to have just to be able to put food on the table for our children. Trust me, if I had known in 1992 when we voted in the referendum what I know now, my vote would have been very, very different. Our annual tax contribution is already over R200000 for which we get absolutely sweet blow all and now they want around R9000.00. It will be a cold day in hell ......

Jadles 11/3/2009 11:57:42 AM
The ANC are not a democracy - they just do what they (guys at the top) want to do...

Carel Husselmann 11/3/2009 11:59:09 AM
The solution is simple. If you want to watch SABC then you go and buy the new decoder for HDTV they will be releasing soon and the SABC should charge you a subscription fee like DSTV. If you don’t want to watch SABC then you are stuck with E TV or go to DSTV. This will mean that the masses who never pay will be forced for the first time in this country’s history to fork out for services.
Ohhhh!!!, Sorry forgot, the new masters want the taxpayer to subsidise the voters again!!! Ok bring the whip and punish me please for having the audacity to think that every man is responsible for himself.

graham 11/3/2009 11:59:52 AM
We were always brought up to think about tax in terms of the biblical madate, "give to ceasar what is due". I have beeen thinking lately, is my tax money actually due to ceasar. Should I pay R3000 a year to the SABC when I dont even have a tv. I think not. I am serioulsy thinking about Juuking on my tax now. I think the govt is starting to shoot itself in the foot. If you cheat the public they are going to start to cheat you. When the problem goes beyond a certain point SARS will become a toothless tiger.

Sam 11/3/2009 12:00:23 PM
Why not tax all Goverment official for this and Escom, Say 2%, or better yet standerdise on 1600 Toyotas across all goverment officials and you will have enough. Hey why not cut all goverment salaries in half you could give that to Escom. They are joking... How many Municipalities are mismanaged again?

@Cynical 11/3/2009 12:03:43 PM
Good Luck...hope for your sake the grass is greener on the other side?

T 11/3/2009 12:06:03 PM
I now understand why the ad on TV says "South Africa is Alive with possibilities"... anything is possible here is this passed.

Cheryl Jonathan 11/3/2009 12:08:04 PM
I fully agree that this is a total rip off. Why don't they appoint people that are equipped to do the job and get rid of the idiots. Why do we have to fork out money to assist them when we can barely survive on what we are earning now. I think its time that our new government start playing their role and stop making promises to the citizens but never materialised. Maybe they had to do a thorough investigation before handing out handshakes of R7 mill to someone who was incompetent lol.


victor 11/3/2009 12:11:04 PM
I am not paying my tv license ever again

Anna 11/3/2009 12:14:19 PM
Why should we pay anything towards SABC? I never watch any of their cr*p. Aren't we paying enough tax towards the government to bale out poorly managed institutions? We are getting deeper and deeper into debt yet the MP's still drive around in fancy cars and live in fancy houses and have fancy entertainment allowance. It is disgusting! I don't knwo how they sleep at night!

victor 11/3/2009 12:15:09 PM
I do not watch local tv as it is a load of crap

Petitioner 11/3/2009 12:15:52 PM
Make yourself heard - sign the petition here:
http://www.mypetition.co.za/index.php?page=sign_petition&petition_id=395

David 11/3/2009 12:18:15 PM
FORGET SABC TV ,they suck ,rather use your money for INTERNET TV.

Angela 11/3/2009 12:19:37 PM
I agree with Carel. SABC can have decoders like DSTV and charge a monthly subscription. Let's see how many customers they get! My sister in law was billed R58000 for an overdue TV licence in error. That would mean she must have bought her first TV about 500 years ago. Try fixing that. Or cancelling a TV licence for someone who has died. A year after my dad passed away, they issued him with a NEW TV licence..just in case his circumstances had changed!?! He was requested to "appear" before a commissioner of oaths and declare that he didn't have a TV. I'm still waiting for the SABC to recommend a spiritual medium and to set a date for his "appearance". I stopped short of posting them some ashes to prove he'd passed on. And yes, the people that work at the SABC TV licence department are extremely rude - and thick.

Badbones 11/3/2009 12:28:22 PM
Just look at them all, Eskom / Telkom / SABC ..... just show us no IQ to amnage these companies ........ CRAZY DAYS !!!!

James 11/3/2009 12:30:16 PM
Send the SABC and ESKOM CEOs and board members to ROBBING ISLAND, where they belong.

Lisa 11/3/2009 12:30:23 PM
I don't even watch SABC Channels, they play such old programmes...DSTV has everything anyway, and i still pay my TV Licence

tjk@Lucky Ralawe 11/3/2009 12:30:49 PM
If I only believed even for 1 second ministers will listen to the people, only for 1 second I would make the effort. The only time the government listen to people not busy with disrupting South Africa is when the law requires them to count votes after an election. Street names, even in that case the ministers didn't listen to the black communities about what they want.

Jacques 11/3/2009 12:31:16 PM
Comments on the proposed Act can be send to miyelani@doc.gov.za

Andre 11/3/2009 12:32:14 PM
I'm out of here! Enough is enough now!

Leoni 11/3/2009 12:32:19 PM
SABC can go to hell in a hand basket for all I care!!!! What about the old age pensioners? Are they going to tax them as well? Some of them can barely survive as it is and now you want to have them pay more?? Get real, you cannot squeeze blood out of a stone no matter how hard you try. SABC should be handed over to private enterprise.

MARS 11/3/2009 12:34:11 PM
Whats the date? 1 April ? Oh hell no, this must be a joke! I'd gladly see the SABC close down. While we are at it, Sell Eskom powerstation at a time to private companies and please privatise SPOORNET and get the bloody trucks that bugger up our roads off the road so we can save the tax of permanently fixing them

Paul 11/3/2009 12:35:26 PM
Scrap the SABC and let etv and mnet do all the broadcasting. They seem to be managing to stay solvent without any taxes.

@Cynical 11/3/2009 12:36:26 PM
Ditto here boet. We may even be on the same plane.

DIDI 11/3/2009 12:37:15 PM
I will never pay that amount to the SABC. I pay to watch DSTV and I'm quite happy to do so.

Boerseun 11/3/2009 12:46:55 PM
Complaining will not help, this needs to be taken to the courts. There is no way this is constitutionally fair.

Me 11/3/2009 12:47:36 PM
What we need to realize is this. You pay a TV license per household, but now you will pay for it with 1% of the salaries of each tax paying individual in the household. My wife earns R100,000.00 per year and I earn R240,000.00 per year. This means that we will now need to pay, not R240.00, but R3400.00 per year. That means a 1400% increase. And what about households where you have many working people living in the same home?

Suzie 11/3/2009 12:51:08 PM
We will really have to do something. I suggest that we all refuse to pay personal tax if they introduce this or the NHI. We will have to force our own companies to agree not to pay our tax over to the government. Let us show how ungovernable looks

Kris 11/3/2009 12:55:55 PM
You know what will happen.
The SABC will immediately show a minimum of 500% to 1000% boost in their income, I'll bet you my entire years salary that the SABC fat cats are right now renegotiating their contracts so that they get bonuses based on a percentage of the profits of the organization...any takers?...

W 11/3/2009 12:56:16 PM
1% tax for SABC, 45% hike for Eskom, the proposed National Health tax, higher service delivery fees, bailing out SAA countless times. And all this because of a select few's greed and incompanance.
Why must we as taxpayer keep paying for the mistakes of others?
If any of them worked for a privately owned company they would have been fired a long time ago and charged with fraud, but being the government, they are just being reshuffled to steel and pillage somewhere else.
I don’t know if it’s just the way I was brought up, but as far as I know if you use something that is not yours and use it for personal gain, that’s called stealing.
But go explain that to the masses......

Brian 11/3/2009 12:56:30 PM
Have you considered this, in a household where both you & your wife are working, BOTH of you are going to have to pay 1% of your salary. The present licensing system , you only pay for 1 license per household - now you are going to be paying for TWO ??!! Has the dumbos who made this decision even thought of this ??

ZA2PT4Safety 11/3/2009 12:57:20 PM
Heres the deal:
€49.90 (Yes, Forty nine euros and ninety cents) per month and you get - 120 TV channels(18 in TRUE HD) 24 radio channels, Internet @20Mb/s (that is 691MB in 4 minutes download) telephone with free national calls.

And guess what, I do not pay for a TV licence. I thought I left SA only for a sfare environment, but day after day I see more reasons.

I sh#%$t myself when my electricity bill is more than €50, water more than €20 and gas more than €34.

Only draw back is petrol is €1.17/Lt. But who needs to by petrol when you have a "public" transport system that works.

I wish you all the best in the never ending pit of despair.

LSA@everybody 11/3/2009 12:58:02 PM
Stop whinging and email or fax your views to fax-0124278059 and email miyelani@doc.gov.za. Do it now and send those details to evryone that you know

LIZ 11/3/2009 12:58:08 PM
may we refuse to pay the 1% as we do not want to watch SABC as their programs are always rep and for all I care we do not have to have a tv we can go to cinimas again.

Anonymous 11/3/2009 1:02:20 PM
I do not understand why everyone here is so stressed about paying for tv licenses, water and electricity. I thought those were supposed to be free. Most townships do not pay for this, because they have voted for a party that promised them everything for free. I personally know of communities were Eskom have fully knowledeg that no household is paying for electricity, and its the way is supposed to be.Actually, this said communities, get first preference should lights go off, technicians are send to the area to sort the problem out, before the community start burning cars, burning municipal buildings etc

margaret 11/3/2009 1:03:34 PM
it's because of all the pirot tv watchers that the SABC is in this mess. Why must we pay so that even more people can get away with not paying?

Distraught 11/3/2009 1:03:52 PM
Why did I buy a television set?

To be able to play my XBox and watch my DVD's. In fact....I do not even get reception to watch the very poor quality SABC where I live. So whether to pay for a service you do not use is the first question. If Dstv can make a living being privatized then why do we still need SABC as a government run service? If they want to claim it from Tax paying citizens then it is really starting to get ridiculous! Maybe there should be a census if the SABC is a worthwile investment from the TAX PAYING citizens!!!!

jakerman 11/3/2009 1:04:06 PM
ridiculous!!! wtf! what next? I am afrikaans speaking and 95% of SABC dont cater for my home language. Its not the language or race I have a problem with. Its the fact that every time you see the same people in a differrent movie as if South Africa dont have anymore talent left. Looks they dont understand enterprise mangement.

If the public can buy shares it will be fine because the user will have a say in the future management of the enterprise.

Food is already expensive to include it in VAT. I wont pay a cent to go to the governments legal laudry of citizens taxes to a few elite people.

SABC has a lot of potential to create wealth and better entertainment. Its just the leaders should let go off friend friend, favour favour and family family. I have a B com Management degree and think young graduates will do a better job. Instead of illiterate politicians.

If a politician runs an enterprise its sure to fail because Business Management principles totally differ from a political perspective.

Lately laws are just passed without proper research and public opinion as it must be in a democracy. Life is to expensive to stay out work for things that dont have a commen sence.

We have a bright future if bright people are at the top. They are not bad people but their advisores are. How can u advise to rip off people for a service that's not worth every penny? How can a Tax collector be head off finance it wont suprise me if tax will be deducted for every problem he cannot solve.

@MAUSER 11/3/2009 1:15:37 PM
Mauser, you son of a gun, you nailed it right on.

Ginger 11/3/2009 1:19:59 PM
Please excuse my language - but bollox to paying those incompetent idiots my tax money. What for - there is currently nothing on tv that I want to watch and I get my news from internet.

stand together 11/3/2009 1:24:09 PM
I have sent letters to all the goverment email adresses provided, I even added the comments that is on this post, it is time our goverment hears what we have to say, do yourself a favour and flood their inboxes with your comments! Not like they have anything better to do anyways

MarkH 11/3/2009 1:26:05 PM
Your comments are noted but I will, if I may, play the devil's advocate.
How exactly are you, or any of us for that matter, going to avoid paying for it, and anything else they may dream up.
The SARS take up front and there's exactly zip we can do about it - part of the (already in progress) campaign to redistribute our money. Not wealth as most of us are far from wealthy, but you get my drift.
We are already paying for those who wish not to work, the criminals and the politico's who are just creaming us all.
There seems to be 2 alternatives for the rest of us. Either get out of ther country or resign your job and join the masses!

LAL 11/3/2009 1:29:00 PM
Crazy idea to pay tax. Means just one thing for me, gonna get rid of the TV and move to other forms of entertainment... like reading or spending time with family!!! Don't watch much tv anyway and I pay for my Licence.

James 11/3/2009 1:33:03 PM
I agree totally. If SABC provided something worth watching then I wouldn't mind paying my TV license. Now I pay the license with as much joy as visiting the dentist. With this tax they don't even give you a choice. You must pay for something that is of inferior quality, doesn't cater to your entertainment needs and desires, and is totally incomprehensible half the time. Have you tried to watch soccer on SABC 1? You don't understand a word half the time. Now they ask why SA Soccer is perceived to be a "black" sport.

Tania 11/3/2009 1:35:36 PM
I like some can also emmigrate and I am leaving in the New Year, it breaks my heart that not all can boast that they are leaving... My heart breaks to leave your lovely country but I have no choice. To those who can not leave my heart will be with you. Stop gloating guys....

LSA 11/3/2009 1:41:02 PM
Hehehehehe, i am copying and pasting all the comments from here and faxing them. Time to flood their fax machine and email, hahahahahahahahahahahaha(evil laugh)

JD 11/3/2009 1:43:43 PM
I will not pay extra tax to subsidise a state owned Company which is the official mouthpiece of the ANC and who play repeats 24/7 and promotes racial division

PDR 11/3/2009 1:58:55 PM
@Cynical - I so wish I was standing next to you... The problem is that now the rot is seriously setting in, the Rand is so worthless very few can afford to go that could afford it 2/3 years ago.

Ghost in the Machine 11/3/2009 2:09:25 PM
Second hand TV for Sale:

Price: R 1 Million

Rivanta 11/3/2009 2:25:58 PM
This is BS. Our salaries are being raped and pillaged again - and there is nothing we can do about!! This is just not fair! What happens when there are two ore more salaries per household.... But why does it not surprise anyone!! We have to do something about this. I am also going to mail as indicated by Spiderman. We need an A-Team to overthrow this government!!! It is a corrupt entity that is only interested in it's own wealth. Niks gewoond nie!

Grumpy 11/3/2009 2:30:45 PM
Isn't that ship of fools lolling about Parliament at the moment not busy negotiating an absolutely pointless R47bn purchase of military Airbuses, or have I missed something?

Lynne 11/3/2009 2:30:54 PM
What next? Tax for breathing? Surely there must be another way to do this? I suggest that the Gov pays for this. They afterall get the most money? The poor tax payer must now pay more at a tine when we are lumped with an average services increase of more than 50%? Even so, it is the poor working class that has to pay for everything. Maybe tyhe SABC and Eskom are in cahoots?

ZION PAY 11/3/2009 2:32:51 PM
The legal aspects of this case is interesting: Surely a person cannot be forced to pay for a service that cannot be rendered. In this case If one does not own a TV by choice then surely that person cannot be forced to pay for the programs that go into it. Come one legal boffins tell us more.

DJ 11/3/2009 2:35:09 PM
They..the goverment, sabc, eskom ..the lot cannot generate money any otherway than TAXING the six million tax payers in this country. It's got to stop..the tax payers must unite

wtf??? 11/3/2009 2:47:49 PM
Will government tax the people if my privately owned company is in trouble? No, so why must we bail them out if they can't manage it properly

Dizz 11/3/2009 3:05:56 PM
1% tax so if there is a household of 3, it means it is actually 3%. Why not charge us for the poluted air that we breathe you thiefs!

Hopeful! 11/3/2009 3:14:49 PM
Where's that website that someone was referring to for SA Tax Payers. We need that forum ASAP to protest against this daylight robbery and all other govt incompetencies!

Tsunami 11/3/2009 3:21:11 PM
The proposal for 1% increase in personal tax to support SABC is absurd and appalling. It is the same as Eskom proposed 45% tariffs increase for the next three years. But, what make SABC case even more ludicrous is even treasury the custodian of national budget and tax policy have not heard of this proposal. Last week the national treasury assured the nation that taxes went going up not at least now. Though fiscal coffers are likely to remain under pressure for some time but hopes are on automatic stabilizers (upward surprises on economic growth) and broadening of tax base. The SABC mismanaged funds and they want public to fund the gaps, sorry cant. Maybe they should first give us what went wrong and who is accountable and what actions would be taken against perpetrators? Further, they must give us a medium to long term turnaround strategy. But clearly government must privatize these institutions, they cost the nation.

Frans 11/3/2009 4:43:10 PM
Why must I pay for that I not want, Eskom - SABC go private and see the improvement Sasol is one small excample even the govement benefits from Sasol's taxes and and and and and and and!!!!!!!!!

Goofy 11/3/2009 5:39:52 PM
...put another log on the fire

Ian 11/3/2009 6:00:47 PM
So I'll be paying R 200 000-00 a year for a TV licence, based on their new crap idea? Tax me to keep the SABC afloat and I'm out of here...

Croft, Ray 11/3/2009 6:02:44 PM
More redistribution tosh.There is an inverse correlation between income earned and SABC channels viewed.I have rarely watched SABC in the twelve years since we have subscribed to digital TV.The SABC needs a total reorganization.

Laughaminute 11/3/2009 6:32:55 PM
This is outrages!!! We pay enough taxes as it is. Whoever came up with this idea is surely out to get those who do pay taxes and actually work for a living. Lets stand together for once and show these Fat Cats that maybe they should take a pay and bonus cut to subsidise the shortfall.

GERT 11/3/2009 7:28:06 PM
No ways that I will pay 1% or even 1% more VAT, I dont need SABC, I dont want any SABC channels on my TV. I will gladly pay for any channels I watch but not for rubish that I dont watch or make use of. Scrap the SABC and let private companies provide TV.

ItsOver 11/3/2009 7:44:45 PM
Yeah, let's close it down, give it to a desirving entreperneur, he turns it into a billion rand industry and ends up like Motsepe and Sexwale. This battle and war is already lost. the classic story of the ant and the grasshopper...

FiDO 11/3/2009 8:08:12 PM
but they still paid the outgoing boss of the sabc something like R11 million... whose money was that? I barely watch SABC, only the news and about one other programme. I would rather give up my licence and just use the TV for my kids to play games on. What are we going to do? Rather pay this money towards training nurses and teachers!!

Janneman 11/3/2009 8:15:29 PM
Isnt it enough that we pay for all the housing, services etc needs in this country through current taxes? Yes thats true we the minority owning our own income needs to support the masses, and now again we need to provide Television to them as well?????

Whats next we work and the masses sit and do nothing and we provide them with food clothes etc?????????

Hell people how are we going to turn this around or is it a never ending and no way of winning battle?

Ouberg 11/3/2009 8:19:29 PM
I agree with majakathata. Let us protest to get SABC to be a pay channel. Then they can collect their funds from the vievers. Starve if they don't produce good view material!

Thato 11/3/2009 8:33:55 PM
Government is developing a tendacy to throw money at every challenge faced instead of dealing with the actual problem.A portion of that money will go to corrupt officials, another portion to pay for bonuses.SABC needs to prove worthy & trustworthy first before we can folk out more money.

Craig 11/3/2009 9:12:34 PM
Wake up Mzansi every day our leaders and the Unionist are preaching the gospel of closing the gap between the rich and the poor nothing is happen.The rates stories came we are paying, Eskom hiked electricity we are paying, Tomorrow an extra percent will be taken out from our salary to fund sabc.All government business are disarray

jorene 11/3/2009 9:23:47 PM
@Gatvol, better still, South Africans recall the whole lot.

Wisdom 11/3/2009 10:22:12 PM
Soooo, if I don't have a TV, but earn a salary, I need to pay??? Oooo really???

Love Africa 11/3/2009 10:24:11 PM
They just need to stop giving insane disconts on advertising space. 40%-60% discount thats the problem! Also remember SABC is under mandate to producer local productions which cost a fortune and can't be sold on to anyone. If SABC is to make a profit it can't be under these types of rules. Can't have everything! I wouldn't pay 1% of salary for DSTV! I don't see this happening. It was a stupid idea that someone didn't really think through. If I sell my TV do I still need to pay that Tax?

Eugene 11/3/2009 10:59:52 PM
I haven't even owned a TV in more than a decade. Why on earth should I subsidize a bunch of brainless twits to watch soap operas? Especially considering the state our country's public liberaries are in?

Paul 11/3/2009 11:39:21 PM
What's next are the red commie government going to tax us for the air that we in hale next? It's getting out of hand! Maybe I shouldn't give them ideas, they are so gready they just might implement a tax on the air. Pathetic and typical of commies. Maybe we must just give all our hard working money to them so they can have parties and die of high blood presure or something. Because they will take all our money anyway sooner or later?

beetroot 11/4/2009 12:06:46 AM
Nationalize Motsepa nd Sexvale's billions: build houses for the poor, build schools and hospitals, build power plants, build new TV sation. Where's UBUNTU, comrades in mercedses?

AJ @ Solution? 11/4/2009 5:53:20 AM
I will give up my TV license (in my name) and my wife can rather take one out in hers - she is a housewife. What is the tax rate on them....

Desha 11/4/2009 6:17:53 AM
Just wondering if I still have to pay the 1% tax if I have no TV? I have not had one for the past 6 years and I really don't miss all the rubbish they make you watch.No way I will pay.

Andriette 11/4/2009 7:16:40 AM
They want hard working taxpayers to pay for a corrupt and bankrupt government controlled organisation and from next year April we must pay to use the N1 between Pretoria and JHB for the open road tolling and Eskom will be increasing electricity. Government and the ANC are stuffing this country up an we must just foot the bill...

Clive 11/4/2009 7:33:22 AM
I all boils down to taking from the working class ,this enables the masses to receive free TV and decoders.In turn the govenment will not have to switch their TV off,allowing 24/7 indoctrination of the masses----clever move.

arfie 11/4/2009 7:38:33 AM
If every working person in my household paid 0.2% tv tax this would bring our tv licence payment to R1320-00 annually for a broadcaster that we do not watch. Disband the SABC after collecting the monies stolen by the management.

Nthabiseng 11/4/2009 7:39:21 AM
Hell, I don't even watch TV. I don't own one. To have to pay for something I don't even use is stupid. And it's angering.

Eles 11/4/2009 7:43:01 AM
Government needs to understand something very clearly - working class have had enough we are overtaxed as it is and already despair at tax money been used to bail out organisations such as eskom, saa and sabc. It is appalling that we must continue to support incompetence - these institutions along with the railway and while we are at it metro should be privatised. Clearly BEE at this level has not worked if you can't source the right people for the job then scrap it and privatise. We all win. For those of us that work hard most weeks of the year the excessive incompetence at these institutions is appalling and insulting and we have had enough. This country has gone to the pits because of the ANC habit of appointing political cadres who most likely probably didn't even do anything during apartheid and I say it is enough they are not equipped for the job consider the shambles that are most municipalities and the alarming missing funds across the board. Appoint the right people for the job regardless of gender or colour and turn this country around - education and patience will see the demographics be what they should but this cannot and won't happen overnight. Use lotto funds to create adult colleges for the disadvantaged to learn some skills and complete their education but government must outsource this correctly - government has proven incapable and incompetent and would clearly bungle this up.

Greg 11/4/2009 7:46:40 AM
The PROPAGANDA machine must be FREE how else
will the ruling party get their message across. Like normal the tax payer is FORCED to PAY.

Nicol@majakathata 11/4/2009 8:17:56 AM
majakathata is right - the whites won't march but that is because we have to go to work so we can pay taxes for the idiots who make all these messes in the first place. That's right, we pay the mojority of the tax for a government we don't want. Just like Zim. But the "marchers" will be out there breaking and looting in the name of a cause they have no clue about. These are also the people who contibuted the least to the tax coffers and cost the country the most. SABC is just another example of black government that is unable to run a country. Why is it that all these countries are handed over in working condition and end up broken!(Culture?)That is the standard line along with racisim. History tells us the future and this has been proven more than once. We live in a third world country who are trying to implement first world laws and they are not even law abiding themselves. This SABC issue is just part of the pattern.

A 11/4/2009 8:32:05 AM
Try to apply for any line of credit or financing and you have to prove that you can afford it or be declined. Taxes on the other hand are introduced without any consideration whether you can afford it or not, not to mention whether it is for a "service" you actually want.(SABC / National Health whatever next)

Lucky Ralawe to tjk 11/4/2009 8:46:39 AM
I am happy for you to sit back, fold your arms and just moan. The Constitution entitles people to participate in the legislative process. I also used to work in Parliament, and when public comments are made on any proposed legislation, there are people who are appointed to analyse them and bring them to the attention of the decision-makers. Some people also go and make verbal presentation in order to change the proposed legislation or oppose it. Parliament's relevant committee is obliged to take into account what the public says and make the relevant changes. If they do not, one can demand to see all the relevant documentation, take them to court and force them to do what the public demanded. Of course that will be what the majority of the submissions said.

Syllable 11/4/2009 8:57:36 AM
I don't have a television or a radio. I cannot see why I should pay for services I don't even use!

Eles 11/4/2009 9:51:53 AM
@ Beetroot though I feel a select few have benefited from BEE it is interesting how the have nots propose taking from the haves I can assure you I wouldn't give two cents extra tax if I could avoid it. Whatever happened to good old fashioned work hard for a better life - if you fall pregnant at 15 and by the age of 19 have 3 kids and survive on kiddies grant you have only yourself to blame. This comment from the tea lady at work " The government only gives me ...." she has no clue how companies and people are taxed excessively to contribute towards her irresponsbility and is not grateful she feels entitled to it. Whilst I love children I say cancel child grants. Let them go to the clinics for food vouchers and medicine but no more money!

Sean 11/4/2009 10:13:34 AM
So now that the CEO's have sucked SABC dry and had a jolly good time with the money, the man on the street must pay.What has happened to all the fraudsters in the SABC? They are getting off scott free with a pocket full of money.Once again crime pays in this country and the innocent have to fit the bill.Sorry to say but the ANC has not got a clue on how to run a country.......

Louise 11/4/2009 10:17:50 AM
Total BS!! already pay huge amounts monthly for tax. where does this money go? what do they do with it? We pay our TV licence, "cause it's the right thing to do". although we never watch the pathetic sabc channels or listen to the crap sabc radio stations. we listen to 94.7 which is self sufficient. how is e-tv surviving? sabc is in trouble because of fund mismanagement, how do these idiots reckon it can be fixed with taxpayers money? just more money to mismanage!

deon 11/4/2009 10:26:23 AM
yes with all this I still cannot watch my favourite sport on TV! Where is the rugby games, internationals, currie cup, super 14 but this damn soccer is forced in our throuts on every blerrie channel!!!!

kevin 11/4/2009 11:03:47 AM
Why should we even be thinking of alternatives. We wont pay it, end of story. They need to be accountable. How is it that E-tv is running without ANY license funding.. I say let the same people running e-tv take over the running of SABC.

James 11/4/2009 11:13:38 AM
I worked out last night that between my wife and I we would have to pay R2k per year for TV Licences. Man, I don't even have DSTV because it is a luxury. Now they want to cram this little gem down my throat and they definitely do not give service worth that kind of money. Will they then give me all my programs in English so that I can understand them? I think not.

Bodge 11/4/2009 11:15:47 AM
Blah, blah, blah. Whether all of you like it or not you WILL pay this!! You all make a great fuss about it, so what are you going to do, NOT to pay it??????

Jaydee 11/4/2009 11:16:25 AM
Can anybody tell if it's LEGAL for the proposed tax deduction...I haven't heard of this anywhere else in the world...

Tracy 11/4/2009 11:44:10 AM
I feel stupid saying "its unbelievable"! It shouldnt be, such things happen again and again. We pay for the messes, we pay security to back up the police, we get less and less service for more .....

Viv 11/4/2009 12:15:47 PM
Okay so if it is 1% of your annual salary I want to see PROOF that the like of Julius, Jacob and all his thieving cronies are paying their licences before I pay mine. Just imagine their licence bills - over R100K a year for sure since they are earning exorrbitant salaries.

I also note that the usual comments from those who will defend their government to the death have no comments here. Funny how they are just like the rest of us really.

Let the SABC close its doors. No-one will really notice anyway.

Sigh, gone is our once gorgeous, prosperous and thieving free country.

defeated 11/4/2009 12:38:05 PM
I continuously find myself having arguments with friends and family about the state of South Africa, our government and economy etc. I'm the one saying, "hang in there, things will get better". My friends and family say "we need to start making plans to get out of here". I'm starting to feel defeated……. :o( I'm trying to win a losing battle.

It never ends, Malema, taxes, currency, capital, politics, our president. What is really going to happen? Should I really be considering leaving a country I love, the people I love, the culture, the beauty, the people, the diversity? Can't our government and the ppl in charge take a good look at what they will be ruining? I sit here and I want to cry, I'm actually scared............

Drained 11/4/2009 1:33:40 PM
another way to make their pockets fatter, and keep on giving their bosses raises. they should learn to know where to draw the line and stop buying fancy cars. Nandos definately made it clear in their latest advert- stand up for our rights. Between the politicians and the SABC, they are all VAMPIRES, draining our blood, and taking the essentials out of life, until we are completely left dry while they enrich their lives. It is scary to think of the road this country is going down. 'Defeated' has put it into words. After 2010, what is there to look forward to in our country, and is it all down hill from there?????? Taxes are there to improve the country and let it grow, not to drain the working class of every cent that they EARN. they must learn to earn their own way, and not rely on the government or the people of this country to make up for their mistakes. once they produce better programs maybe then people will be more eager to pay.

david 11/4/2009 2:33:37 PM
The ANCTV should have been cut lose from license fees years ago.
There is no public service on either TV or radio that is not total rubbish.
Hence i have no TV, and never switch on the radio. Let them go bankrupt, i wouldn't notice the difference.

B FREE ON E 11/4/2009 2:43:47 PM
etv is way better than sabc - :)

Steve 11/4/2009 3:15:22 PM
This kills me, I sold the TV a couple of years back, and cancelled the license, because it ain't worth watching, now my tax is going towards paying the salaries of these incompetent theives, I guess the government needs to keep it going for their propaganda, to control the masses, Hey! Vote ANCTV.

vilo 11/4/2009 4:28:22 PM
Vote anc ,Vote higher taxes, Vote increases to higher petrol prices, vote for higher crime rate ,vote for everything that u do not agree on

GINA 11/4/2009 4:52:05 PM
Right! Close down SABC who watches anyway, it is mostly used by Politicians and Learners. I will not pay tax for TV so that the current youth can go on and spend their money on wine women and song. The TAXING siuation must stop somewhere, Let all earners pay PAYE then there will be funds to keep mismanaging at SABC

GINA 11/4/2009 4:55:49 PM
Its about time the voters of this government realised that one of these days the people living in Sandton will have as much as those living in the uncared for townships we wo't have to worry about the poverty in the country, because we will all be there, this will please you government then you will not complain anymore.

JJ 11/4/2009 5:41:45 PM
VIVA!!!! ELES FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

Joe 11/4/2009 7:30:22 PM
So, the question stands: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT BUT PAY?? Fools!
Organize a march and hand over a memorandum saying if you are forced to pay this idiot-tax, you are going to DESTROY SABC infrastructure by any means possible. Words don't work on the ANC idiots, can't you tell that by now?? It's long time for ACTION! Violence is what the ANC preaches, VIOLENCE is what they must get!! NOTHING ELSE!!

Jaydee 11/4/2009 8:20:33 PM
An addendum to my previous statement....It'll never be implemented....

Mashau Bodwe 11/4/2009 8:49:32 PM
Finally!...There is something we can reach consensus on...great, let us rally together and provide comments to the proposal when it is made available for public comments. Maybe...just maybe ...it will make a difference. Even if it doesn't someone will take note. After all we are not so divided, singing in the same tune, great!

crazydean 11/5/2009 8:04:43 AM
Well, i agree totally.
Why should we be paying extra for something thats not our fault. In my 37 years on this planet has SABC ever given the public anything for nothing? Have they ever given a free years TV license when they were making huge profit. Uh... NO !!! so why should Joe Public foot the bill for their incompetance to run a business. Please don't get me started on the quality of shows on SABC 1 2 or 3. It's appauling. Repeats all the time. it's unacceptable. This has to be a legal infringement on our rights. If SABC made it Pay Per View, I guarantee +/- 90% of South Africans would not have TV. Get rid of all the guilty parties at SABC, cut down on the huge salaries and bonuses , get a better selection of content and stop trying to rip the botton out of the public for something that was incurred due to mismanagement. I wonder if the boys from SABC and the boys from Eskom went to the same business school? Pathetic

anom 11/5/2009 8:14:26 AM
easy fix, lets all boycot dstv, then they will also step in the fight with us against the sabc

ANON 11/5/2009 9:28:25 AM
If you want to turn the company around do what SAA did. Get the incompetence out and change it with competence. In other words get rid of political appointments and this doesn’t mean that transformation needs to end. This will improve transformation; there are a lot of competent non white business men and women that this country can offer... Or what we can do is scrap the SABC completely or we can let e tv. take them over and run it as a proper company that is profitable. I feel the same about ESKOM and other non profitable parastatels.

busi 11/5/2009 9:54:10 AM
Together we can,let's all stand together and boy cott "them" ,Anonymous well said my friend ,i am with you on that one

DB Scotttburgh 11/5/2009 10:08:24 AM
Fund ESKOM and SABC by adding a cent or 2 to petrol price. Easy to administrate as there is about 4 major oil company's and this way eveybody contributes, not only the rich

ACM 11/5/2009 10:11:01 AM
Well said I agree with this comment - I don't even OWN a TV. In fact I haven't ever owned on and I'm in my mid-40's....

Dean 11/5/2009 10:16:36 AM
I've had enough of this sh1t. How dare they try make it so that we pay 1% tax to the SABC. NO WAY.....NO HOW !!!! I absolutely refuse and as far as i'm concerned, i dont give a damn even if Julius Malema and the rest of the idiots in government pay huge TV licenses. I dont want SABC at home, they can close their doors or privatize it. It absolutely an infringement of my rights being forced to pay for a service i choose not to have. Who the hell do these people think they are??? They bugger up a pote4ntially booming business and expect the public to pay for that. NO..... and this business of raising vat to ensure that everyone pays is rubbish. Why should we pay? cancel the big salaries and the huge "performance" bonuses and operate on a shoestring budget until they take themselves out of the dwang.... The operative words being "taking themselves" out of the dwang... Everyone should stop paying until they come forward with a suitable plan to resolve this matter.

crazydean 11/5/2009 10:42:21 AM
@ANON.... People like you who have the same idiot mentality of only getting Non white business men or woman for the transformation of SA. Maybe all you people that are so worried about the transformation of a Democratic country by insuring we only take non white south africans ahead in building this great nation. Please, what about a country for ALL the South Africans. Question. If the old "apartheid" Government was "racist". What is the new Government?

Owl eye 11/5/2009 10:57:19 AM
What's news - more coming dozies!
Always amazed at naive attitude of white folk here who can do nothing but try being intellectual, at all costs, or of course spend their lives moaning.
Talk is dirt cheap, don't you realize yet you are only required for milking purposes you bunch of hornless goats ! When you dry up (and you will)our esteemed government, DA included, will do to you what is done to useless goats - use your intellects to imagine what, if you can, or at least take your blinkers off and take a good look at our grand design, the ageless African syndrome. When you're finished, useless and we've
dispensed with you finally (we've as long as it takes) the other stupids off-shore will still give more and more and more. We are very clever actually-we use our skin colour well for sympathy and money money money while we sit on our beautiful black butts in the wonderful African sunshine and watch you toil, sweat and labour for us. You exploited us now we exploit you. Aren't we clever, or is that "just our culture" ??
No wonder this country's gone to pot for you spineless rabble. Time you all, enmasse, got off your lily white butts and did something positive instead of moaning-take a few leaves out of our book stand up for yourselves for a change, join with us to stop the rape, or get buried (there are quite a few of us who also just want peace and prosperity without corruption ) and stop using "your culture" as an excuse for your dead brains, if you want to survive in Africa.
A couple of good lengthy product sanctions/boycotts and withdrawing
your monetary support to these organizations ie cutting off their life blood should do for the start.
Come on you intelectuals I thought you got brains so figure it out and
don't forget, stand together, implement (action your words) and stop your incessant gassing.
It that fails you can always resort to our method, join us, and we will make them listen to "the people"..
viva the people, viva.
Otherwise you're your own worst enemy, and remember...............
I'm watching you !!!!

Louis 11/5/2009 11:09:11 AM
THIS IS CRIMINAL!! It is absolutely UNFAIR to expect of the working class to cough up for the SABC's mistakes. Just because TV licenses are flawed doesn't mean you can just throw your problem on the hard working South African's - most of which own a tv license anyway or rather watch DSTV with a much bigger variety of shows. I never watch SABC anyway so why do I have to pay for it. I don't mind paying a tv license, but paying 1% of my yearly salary in tax to the SABC is criminal!!

Ridder 11/5/2009 11:52:07 AM
@ 7x57 Mauser... I completely agree!
@ TheComingRevolution... ain't that the truth and I'm definitely looking forward to it!

amanda 11/5/2009 12:04:27 PM
This is disgusting!!! How dare they.... More & more people will be leaving the country VERY soon... & I'm one of them!!! I can't believe that our country is going down the same road as Zim... typical...
What about the people that live paycheck to paycheck, this will destroy them. Not to mention the "others" that dont have jobs, will they have to pay too... I dont think so!! our government completely & utterly run by idiots... is B.U.L.L.S.H.1.T!

annie 11/5/2009 12:31:50 PM
I do not own a TV , I work, I pay tax, I dont have time to watch TV . There should be an option for people who do not have a TV to opt out of this tax. Work is scarce so I work 65km from where I live. A lot of my free time is spent commuting.

George 11/5/2009 12:43:36 PM
I say no problem, let the tax payer bail them out...but then the tax payer must get to choose who runs the SABC, they must vote in a new CEO and board of directors. Then what need to happen is when the SABC finally gets itself out of its financial hole and starts making money again, the tax payer should then receive tax rebates of increasing value as and when the SABC starts making money. The SABC should in a way work for the taxpayer considering he is investing in them.

@all 11/5/2009 12:59:35 PM
i think that if we gonna be bailing the SABC out of its problems they should make shares open to the public. so we can also benefit from it. Cos the crap shows they air on t.v dont satisfy my needs. Look back at the Last Survivor China what a mess up with the Finale. Is this what we really pay for. . .

Jordan 11/5/2009 1:08:15 PM
@George - right on! This is actually the first positive comment I have read here...

KAB 11/5/2009 2:35:42 PM
@ Those who think its 1% of their salary and @ (ME), yet it is not! You Calculate it at 1% of the TAX you pay. Example you earn R240k PA and your wife R100k. Tax for R240k is abot R55 000 and for R100k is R20 000. The you now multiply that tax by 1% which is R550 for the R240k person and R200 for the R100K person. So the total you pay for the year is R750 in that household, which is actually 0.2% of your salary. As you earn more the more the license will cost just like as you earn more you pay more tax. Tax is like that all over the world.
However I do agree the SABC are wrong to tax us this way and you will find out the higher payed people will be paying more TV tax than the lower earners. I earn around R1.3m a year so my TV tax will be R4680 a year which I believe is toatlly unfair that the high earners in the country will be forking out the most for TV tax. One way of making everyone pay the same is when SARS do the tax assesmnt year end they add the R300 or so rand to your tax bill and then either your "Due by You" or 'Due to You" from SARS will take up that TV tax. But because we also have so many people who are not registered Tax payers many will still get away from paying TV tax. Normal people can never win here!!

Jono 11/5/2009 8:37:30 PM
@George..& everyone...this Government is in the happy position of not being responsible to the taxpayer. It is responsible to its voters, the majority of whom are NOT taxpayers. So the taxpayers do not have a say. They will just be made to pay.

What the taxpayers need to do is apply the weapon they have, which is money. Boycott the big BEE companies until our DEMANDS are MET, only do business with non-BEE companies or members of OUR tribe and they will soon feel the pinch. Make a plan, see an accountant, to legally withold or delay as much tax as you can, its OUR money who funds them, its up to us to dry up the source.

ACTION, people, NOW. Not moaning. Moaning will get you NOWHERE. If you dont act NOW then it will only get WORSE - you know that.

Look out for the soon to be formed SOUTH AFRICAN TAXPAYERS UNION.

Donald Duck 11/5/2009 9:23:45 PM
Viva, Viva lets burn Auckland Park to the ground and topple all the Sentech towers, none of us need the drivel broadcasted and none of need the ANC propaganda, and ZA will be the better for it, this really wont be so hard!!!

Mike 11/6/2009 12:03:24 AM
I would say we should make it 5%.

frank 11/6/2009 7:41:19 AM
These blundering idiots think they can solve every problem by screwing us more and more . We will just end up charging more and more to them . Until eventually the balance tips , and they will be left with billion rand notes and trillion rand notes. Africa's last real hope at the so called 'renaissance' is going to the dogs . We will be as underdeveloped and corrupy as the best of them .No one in power cares past his wallet and his lifespan

Ronald 11/6/2009 9:16:57 AM
FYI - Do you know that DSTV pays a portion of your monthly premium to the SABC. Thus, why should any DSTV prescriber also have to pay a "TV Licence"? Is the TV licence revenue distributed amongst the different broadcasters in SA, including those not belonging to the SABC?

Robyn 11/6/2009 9:23:35 AM
I Don't even own a TV.... doesn't that mean that those who don't own should be exempt? Whose TV licence am I going to be paying then?

NOWAYS 11/6/2009 1:46:41 PM
This is UNACCEPTABLE. I already pay for DSTV R499 per month because SABC does not serve my entertainment needs, now i must pay 1% of my Taxable Income. NO WAYS - I am really ANNOYED just at the idea !! So the more i earn the more i pay for SABC TV NO NO NO

Jennyfromtheblock 11/6/2009 3:09:58 PM
IWILL NOT PAY 1%. It will be mismanaged anyway. I am happy to pay taxes for services (non-existent) and to help the poor in many ways, BUT I am NOT PAYING FOR THEIR ENTERTAINMENT.

Obe711 11/7/2009 11:18:59 AM
The public now has to reward mismanagement?
Is the UIF & RAF not enough proof that the state can not manage public funds.

Scrap the SABC, UIF & RAF. Get private companies to supply the relevant services to those that are willing to pay a market related price. Let the state regulate where neccissary.

Stop the proposed government health plan before it turns out to be more of the same.

Not Impressed! 11/7/2009 12:51:21 PM
We about to pay 45% eskom X 3 years, 1% National Heath, 1% SABC ONTOP of a household budget that has a leeway of -10% due to all other bailouts occuring due to mismanagement & we the actual income earning public are expected just to coughed up for no justified reason or evidence of any service rendered...

our only sin is - we are the so-called privilaged 10% plus of the country able to hold down a job! I have not seen R50.00 for myself in 10 plus years so Emmigration application is in to go elsewhere where earning an income will actually mean something to my family once again instead of being destitute at the expense of the state, its greed & total mismanagement.

The electorate that voted should be made to pay and not those who did not support the communist/socialist ideals of the current situation

ria 11/7/2009 3:57:55 PM
etv is crap. i recently gave up my DSTV because they showed the same thing 6 times a day for 30 days and then 30 days later all over again BUT that was for R500 per month. The SABC are trying to do a good job. Mismanagement yes, Let SABC try to function under better management and they are a whole lot better than the bonking, bible bashing etv MCP dudes who currently do the programming for etv. I am not interested in soccer or wwe shitdown or bonking or biblebashing. Etv I will not ever buy anything advertised on your channel. Yes when i gave up my DSTV i started reading again and I do not miss my TV at all. Read a book a night. But i do get angry when everyone thinks that etv is the answer to everything. They show 70-80 year old movies late night. Now while that is very interesting, showing them 6 or 7 times over is a bit much. I am sure that YOU coined a bit of money when you did that brainless brainbox and are now payed to show 90 year old movies for the 6th time around. YES you made a profit but that does in no wway reflect on the quality of what you show. I will never buy anything advertised on your channel.

Willie 11/7/2009 4:57:44 PM
This stupid. We must pay to listern to ANC propaganda. Another way to distrubute wealth. Only 10% of the contry will pay for 90% to watch the ANC propaganda.
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