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Estelle E van Eeden

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'Innocence lost'

by Estelle E van Eeden
2009-05-28 07:00

Dear Editor,

The furthest thing from my mind as a child was technology and boys. I was too busy playing outside and baking cupcakes for pocket money.

Boy, how things have changed, indeed!

NSW Community Service Minister Linda Burney stated that girls as young as 13 are sending sexually explicit images to their boyfriends from their cell phones, supposedly thinking it an "innocent joke or harmless flirting".

These kids are still what my grandma would have called "wet behind the ears". Children, that's what they are, young and impressionable.

A phrase form Friedrich Nietzsche's The Madman comes to mind, he says: "Is not night continually closing in on us?"

If a child or young person reaches the conclusion that it's okay to partake in "sexting" as it's called, or that it's wholesome to sleep around while they're technically still young enough to be reading Nancy Drew, where will it all end?

What adolescents perceive to be okay is often what they see around them.

Role model of the present ten to thirteen year olds is Vanessa Hudgens, star of High School Musical. Just last year she had to explain semi nude pictures of herself.

Where has conscience slipped to? Why are our children partaking in activities that are classified as child pornography by law?

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Clint 5/29/2009 7:43:24 AM
Frnkly I am not suprised.The lack of morality in society evetualy leads to the decay in society.I find it terribly sad that children can no longer be children.It starts with us, the parents, to set a good example for our children. Instead of propping them in front of the television, do something with them..read a good story or play games with them from a young age.Why is pornography considered art these days.Filth is filth and the sad fact is that it is so easily accessible to these youngsters.

Win 5/29/2009 7:44:07 AM
Everything is going out the window. Morales especially. Kids should be kids and should be treated as kids and certain things forbidden and they need to be disciplined. Then again parents should also catch a wake up. But the problem is that the world is evolving to quickly to allow kids to remain kids.

Puppy 5/29/2009 7:44:32 AM
I hate to admit it, but the world is going in a whole new direction. I am only 22 years old, still wet behind the ears as your grandmother would say. But even I can see that there is something terribly wrong going on with the children of today. But make no mistake; it is far worse is 1ste world countries, and that I saw with my own eyes. So where is the problem, with the children of today, or plain and simply with the parents not giving enough discipline anymore?

Nthatuwa 5/29/2009 7:45:21 AM
"STOP BUYING YOUR CHILDREN SOPHISTICATED CELLPHONES & TAKE OUT TVS & COMPUTERS IN THEIR ROOMS".What do you expect when parents leave children unattended or watch soaps/movies with sexual scenes with them?We are too busy trying to acquire wealth to buy them luxuries,we've forgotten to make time to teach our children the most important lessons in life.(SELF RESPECT,INTEGRITY,CONFIDENCE,DISCIPLINE,DEDICATION,EDUCATION,ETC).You can say no,but the media we allow in our homes is to blame.

Joy Thorpe 5/29/2009 7:45:55 AM
I think that children do this to get attention - the wrong kind of attention perhaps - but attention nontheless. The only thing that can prevent them from continuing to do this, are the parents, the proper education, or them getting arrested!! Either way, these kids need to be taught a lesson, and the harder they fall, the better for them !

chops 5/29/2009 7:48:52 AM
This is where 'forward thinking' and 'open mindedness' got us. Just saying.

samsam 5/29/2009 7:55:38 AM
what is your story all about, do you mean HILLEN ZILLE must stop sleeping around, with her boyfriends, good

ENrust 5/29/2009 8:00:04 AM
Things have chaged for the worst indeed... TV has become the main media of promoting promiscouity... Stars like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian have sex tapes and little teen girls look up to these individuals.

MJS 5/29/2009 8:00:08 AM
Because some parents choose not to be held accountable - they would rahter shift the blame. I have 2 kids myself, asking me for cellphones so that they can chat, I refuse point blank, there will be enough time for them to be adults, but right now, they need to be kids, and I for one is going to make sure that they stay safe!

Dr Steve Brule 5/29/2009 8:02:36 AM
...they were like this when I was that age. Damn. Oh, and its all ANCs fault or something.

GeoRge 5/29/2009 8:08:46 AM
Maybe we should pose this question to our esteemed president(showerhead) Zooma - he's a pretty good role model. What do the ANC cadres to this column have to say about his sexploits. And what do his lovely bevy of wives have to say about his sexploits with aids infected women. Perhaps its their tradition! Or maybe I should not question his private life like Zille did?! For I may be threatened with violence. What a joke they are - pathetic actually.

Be a proper parent! 5/29/2009 8:10:07 AM
There is no such thing as "sexting" - it is a made up word by the media to scare soccer moms and conservatives into thinking this is some sort of crisis (oh boy, another crises). The fact is you should be properly parenting your children. If they are sending sexual pictures of themselves to their boyfriends then there is a bigger problem with their character. You should be talking about sex and dignity with them and punish this behaviour. Technology is a tool. Don't blame technology.

Milky 5/29/2009 8:11:55 AM
I think the need to be competitive with international markets forced us to adapt to the western idea of things. We are obsessed with becoming Rihanna and JayZ, we have lost ourselves in the process and so our children.Culture instills morals and morals- principles,but if you do not teach your child her self-worth,she wonders around like headless chicken and start doing what Vanessa does and not what she think is right for her as a person.I still maintain that good behaviour starts at home.

Halfwise 5/29/2009 8:21:02 AM
Things will always change, do you really think our children?s children will be facing the same problems as the ones we are facing today??.Economy, Aids, poverty, war in Africa and Zille?????

ChildOrNot 5/29/2009 8:22:40 AM
Recently a news paper reported that a 'child' was shot at a wedding , tragic yes - but surely we can't call a 17 year old teenager a 'child' .... ??

Parent 5/29/2009 8:27:30 AM
Our society continues to coddle children, as if they are a superior species, instead just a future generation. We have removed most forms of punishment from schools and even homes without a single thought of how a lack of discipline will affect our youngsters. These kids are growing up thinking that they can do no wrong - they have no moral compass and the only ones to blame are ourselves. Spare the rod, spoil the child...

Eles 5/29/2009 8:28:49 AM
Instill values in your kids, tell them how dangerous it would be to meet people in person that a 45 year old man can pretend to be a 17 year old boy on mixit etc. There are too many parents out there who just don't care!

IVAN 5/29/2009 8:30:34 AM
In the days of Noah (in particular the pre-flood period), persons were eating, drinking, interacting with friends and loved ones, etc. This sounds no different than our daily activities. From the Genesis chapter 6 account, individuals were also violent, corrupt, and wicked. "The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time . . . Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight and was full of violence" (Genesis 6:5, 11). One only has to look at our modern-day newspapers to get many examples of what passes for violence, corruption, and wickedness. Of course the instruments used to accomplish these activities would be different in the days of Noah, but the evil intent and the evil result were the same. Evil was their normal mode of operating.

bigmydum 5/29/2009 8:31:40 AM
BLAME THE DAMN PARENTS. FINISH AND KLAAR. NO DISCIPLINE IN PARENTS CARRIES ONTO THE CHILDREN. SUBJECT CLOSED.

Kalakune 5/29/2009 8:32:26 AM
Blame the parents; my kids don?t even have cell phones. I am keeping them save from this western evil so its all up to African Parents to decide.

bb 5/29/2009 8:34:27 AM
The free availability of pornography has corrupted society. The current generation of kids think porn is part of life , that is why they freely take away their dignity by sending these pictures of themselves to others. To make things worse , we have porn on the telly ( ETV ) and events like Sexpo which further reinforces the idea that this behaviour is normal. Unfortunately you can't run away from this horrible state of affairs as it's even worse overseas. Of course new age liberals will love it

marlene 5/29/2009 8:34:49 AM
when the Parliament and schools don't open with prayer anymore? what do you expect when the government doesn't believe in God?

Fraud 5/29/2009 8:36:47 AM
it's getting out of hand indeed. But as Puppy said, it's worse in 1st world countries. Even within our borders, you'll realize that it's worse in the big cities. Why? Does civilization (infrastructure and technological advancements) mean a decay in moral values? Is there a relationship between civilization and moral values?

Jurie 5/29/2009 8:39:54 AM
bad parenting is to blame here. The problem is that kids of today "mature" a lot faster than the previous generations. Physically and mentally. That and the fact that doing something wrong feels good is what is to blame here. Technology just makes it easier.

cos 5/29/2009 8:42:06 AM
They do it because their parents allow them to do it either by deed (buying the equipment for them) or by action (monkey see, monkey do). I have 2 young girls and everything they read or watch on Tv is monitored. If not they too would have access to these things. It is our fault as parents-we should set the example for our children. I cant tell Mnet/SABC what to put on TV or Vodacom etc what to allow on cellphones but I can and I WILL monitor what my children have access to.

Poloyatonki 5/29/2009 8:43:33 AM
The law doesn?t force parents to buy kids cell phones so why did you buy your kids cellphones???????????????

APWSA 5/29/2009 8:44:01 AM
The law say's that a 13 year old girl can get contraceptives without their parents consent or knowledge. I recently overheard a Gr R learner say to a friend "come, let's go to the toilet and sex" his friend stated that the boy "watches late night movies on TV" The SA Government has reduced the parents rights, and reduced the morality factor to suite a certain portion of the SA population. Teachers impregnating scholars and teenage pregnancies are rife at SA schools. What we see here is a clash of cultures African Vs Western. On the flip side of the coin, we as parents are also to blame for accepting our diminished rights.

SM 5/29/2009 8:44:02 AM
It is sad but we have ourselves to blame. The morals that most of us older folks were brought up with just not fit in the modern world. We have set the example to these young kids. We are all too bsy with other things than to teach our children ethics, morals and integrity. Unfortunately we have obstacles as well, The world says it is ok through movies, media and the general behaviour of the socalled 'adults'. We always reap what we sow.

dh 5/29/2009 8:44:02 AM
While it's true that technology makes it easier for this kind of thing to go on, the fact is that too many parents are too oblivious of what is going on in their children's lives. When I was 13 we had supervised birthday parties, my parents restricted what I watched on tv; we got internet for the first time around that time but there was no way my parents would allow me to do whatever I pleased online, etc...yes, our society faces moral decay but isn't it up to one's parents to teach & guide??

Henk 5/29/2009 8:45:58 AM
Kids have been playing "doctor doctor" for years. Technology have caught up to what kids would have been doing in any case. If its a problem for you, get your kid a little black-and-white off the shelf pay-as-you-go Nokia for R99.

Cat 5/29/2009 8:47:12 AM
I think parents should decide if a child should have access to cellphones and internet not sociaty! We did not grow up with these things Im only 34 years old and I dont think a child misses out on not having this until he is an adult (18).

dh 5/29/2009 8:49:24 AM
I know I cannot judge parents as I am not one myself, and I'm sure it's extremely tough to be a parent in this day and age, but I do feel buying your kids fancy phones and computers and assuming this will keep them safely entertained amounts to a failure to take full responsibility in your role as parent.

Punk Scum 5/29/2009 8:50:16 AM
Im turning 25 this year, and when I compare my childhood to that of the youth today, completely different! Lost of innocence of out youth. The scary part is it was just 10-15 years ago when i was their aga! There is a definate lack of discipline by the parents, all it takes is a good smack on the butt, problem solved! @Dr Steve Brule - oh, its never the ANC's fault, dont you mean its apartheid, or racism? haha ;p Dumbass govenrment...

AJ 5/29/2009 8:56:57 AM
Why does pornography have to be referred to as filth? I dont consider my body or my partner's to be filthy. Yes it is inappropriate for younger children and access to it should be controlled, but simply categorising it as filth simply alienates people from the cause. It aint dirty, but it is adult material.

Candice 5/29/2009 9:07:23 AM
Great artile and so true. Gone are the days that children play and act there age. In our days we didn?t have cell phones and all the expensive video games and all. But we have everything because we could play in the streets and parks, but the kids of now have everything and know to much but still they have nothing.

Nthatuwa 5/29/2009 9:07:36 AM
You're dang right.There is a relationship between the two.And it's killing ourn societies.A lot deny it & place responsibility solely on parents.What about those who create Mxit,Mig33,etc?They opened a can of works & have made it even harder for parents.And yes,you can blame Zuma as well,he has set a bad example for the future generations.He aught to be ashamed of himself.

Nthatuwa 5/29/2009 9:11:58 AM
You cannot spank a child for doing something you never warned/taught them about.You have to set rules & intil a sense ofresponsibility & accountability in you kids.You also need to let them know you TRUST them,that way,they'll find it difficult to dissapoint you.I know this from experience.We are not all perfect.We were once their age.We need to help,not scorn them.It'll only make things worse,remember EMO?,lol.

aj 5/29/2009 9:12:00 AM
For all these type of issues that comes up you get a lot of people saying blame the parents. What a lot of these people are realy saying is "hey I'm an enlightened adult don't blame porn, don't blame bad music, don't blame video games because it is my free right to enjoy these things. They are convienently overlooking the fact that no parent can supervise their kids 24/7 and keep them 100% away from the moral degeneration of our world.

migger 5/29/2009 9:13:40 AM
but back to the article, part of the blame goes to the parents, it's a hard job to be a parent, i know, but you have to still be responsible for your child's actions. but our government also shares in this blame, for taking away our ability to smak a child that misbehaves. corporel punishment is an effective means of instilling discipline in children, i can tell you now, that if you get a hiding for doing something wrong, you won't repeat it anytime soon

Ron 5/29/2009 9:14:29 AM
I agree with both Henk and Nthatuwa, however if all the liberal wooly headed idiots/lawyers for children's rights had not made punishment a "crime" then we would not have this appalling situation. Parents need to take full responsibility - why have the kids got these phones, who approved them - the parents. Bring back the parents and teachers right to discipline kids as they are getting out of hand - kids have no idea what respect for law or authority means.

marie 5/29/2009 9:14:41 AM
Some parents these days are trying to befriend their children. (especially divorced parents)it is good to have an open relationship with your child however it is important to know your place and important to know when to allow your child what. Words which helped me through trying times are: "IT IS YOUR DUTY AS A PARENT TO TEACH YOUR CHILD HOW TO BECOME A GOOD ADULT"

Leigh 5/29/2009 9:15:48 AM
To Chops - my sentiments exactly. Well put. And then to Henk - views like yours are part of the problem. Sit back and give it some thought ... the results will horrify you ....

Jurie 5/29/2009 9:17:21 AM
"A can of works"? In the end it is the "child" who makes the decision. With or without the consent of parents. Kids that are punished for doing something wrong will just do the same thing again because they know they shouldn't. We were all like that. The circumstances is just different.

bob123 5/29/2009 9:18:15 AM
Sure dude, but how to you keep this adult material away from kids? You can turn on as many parental controls as you like on your PC, and it will still pop up regardless of what you are searching for. It is broadcast on SABC - where anyone with a TV can watch. (Parents have to sleep as well you know, can't be expected to lock up the kids) It's in every book store. Now the gov is trying to legalise prostitution. Why would we ever allow that?

aj 5/29/2009 9:19:27 AM
For those that arent parents it is easy to say the parents should control their kids (because they enjoy the things that are corrupting kids). Everybody that reflects on their childhood honestly would tell you if you wanted to do something naughty you would do it without your parents permision. Parents definately have a huge responsibility but so has society. Why is it that the most "enlightened" countries has the worst teens?

Tech 5/29/2009 9:20:08 AM
This is very bad I agree but I don?t think the problem lies with the technology we are giving our children if you don?t expose them to something simple like a cell phone they will struggle later in life with regards to technology I know a few people that wasn?t exposed to technology as kids and they are scared of the things. (age 25 ook nat agter die ore)And that is a real problem for their futures. The service providers need put more security on the content (I know that is almost impossible but surly they can think of something more secure but shielding them from all forms of technology isn?t the answer) there is a lot of parental control products on the market that will help you block all this unwanted content

bob123 5/29/2009 9:23:23 AM
We teach our kids all about sex at age 12 (in schools). Then we provide free condoms to 13 year olds. Then we are "amazed" and "shocked" when our kids have sex or send sexy pics of themselves to friends? Duh??? What did we think our kids were gonna do with the knowledge and free condoms? Have a part with cooldrink and cookies and use the condoms as balloons? basically sex is now just entertainment with no more meaning in modern society than having a beer at the local pub.

aj - the other one 5/29/2009 9:23:30 AM
Porn and sex in marriage is two different things. You cant tell

SimonP 5/29/2009 9:29:13 AM
If a child does not know the difference between right and wrong the blame has to be lsaid squarely on the parents.

Clint 5/29/2009 9:29:40 AM
I did not say that your or you partners body nor the act of sexual union was filthy. Pornography was never intended to be a positive expression of sex.In fact sex ought to be a loving physical expression between a husband and wife.This in itself is a thing of beauty but please lets not confuse pornography with a loving sexual union.This is neither its aim nor meaning.

Roy Greig 5/29/2009 9:31:13 AM
If pictures on cell phones cause dismay I wonder what would happen if parents really knew what their eight year olds were up to. Discipline the parents.

MPD 5/29/2009 9:33:14 AM
200 years ago (and still in some parts of the world), 13 is marriage age - it is naive to think it is a modern phenomena. In fact, the notion that children at 13 are not sexual is a modern "quirk". Right or wrong,that is how it is.

marlene 5/29/2009 9:33:19 AM
it was safe to play in the streets and swimming in the rivers. Nowadays the rivers are filthy and you children aren't even safe in their own homes. BLAME THE ANC!

Linda Yates 5/29/2009 9:33:44 AM
All child molesters use porn - often starting with "men's magazines." Parents can only do their best. Society must also take responsibility. SABC and etv must clean up their act.Fight legalization of prostitution - this will make things much worse - then they will advertise outside schools.............

da Brudda 5/29/2009 9:36:25 AM
Too many parents want to be their child's friend, forgetting the fact that their first role should be that of parenting. Some parents are scared that they will not be loved by their children if disciplined so then attempt to "buy" their love and respect.

Poloyatonki 5/29/2009 9:36:44 AM
WHAT BAD EXAMPLE DID ZUMA SET, MORON?

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Kalakune 5/29/2009 9:42:15 AM
This is the problem with you coconuts, the topic is a very good one about our kids but your idiotic mind keeps bring our respected leader into it. I am getting tired of this shit.

jd 5/29/2009 9:44:58 AM
As the years pass, the more out of place womens' roles in society becomes, they got equal rights socially and proffesionally all around the world in the last couple of decades. Sexual promiscuity has become trademarks of a confident women. Meanwhile, men have realised that they dont need to buy the cow to get the milk, and women have become more competitive with each other. Sexting is early symptoms of girls being competitive, trying to secure the last straight men who is still willing to commit.

Halfwise 5/29/2009 9:46:01 AM
How long have Zuma been a President you idiot, I think you are a bad example for your stupid kids....WHY MUST YOU BRING JZ INTO THIS, MORON

Cynicus (aka Not-So-Cynicus) 5/29/2009 9:46:47 AM
I am "in the technology business" ... and I won't allow my children access to camera phones (the just DO NOT need them!), nor unfettered access to the Web etcetera. And a TV in the bedroom? Excuuuuuse me, but I think not. A few others have commented that the critical item is just being real parents. How very true.

GeoRge 5/29/2009 9:46:48 AM
It all comes down to the way you raize your children - to be pure i.e. till their wedding day - if you do not allow them to have a cellphone that can access the so-caaled smut - then they will see it on their friends phones - it all conmes down to morals and respect - ask our esteemed president (l/c intentional) for the peer example - he's quite a good example to our children. Go showerhead ....

Fairy 5/29/2009 9:52:43 AM
Parents should give there children less choices of what they would want and do and be parents and not there best friends. Parents should be open about sex but let there children understand that sex is a big thing and comes with a lot of consequences that they should be aware of. We can't change the world we live in but we as parents could prepare them better for the choice they will have to make and face.

Zoe 5/29/2009 10:01:21 AM
If we parents can understand the responsibility of raising children, then will have less to worry about. take a lesson from the "Seed,the gradual development of the plant from the seed is an object lesson in child training,the little ones should be educated in childlike simplicity.they should not be forced into a precocious maturity but should retain as long as possible the freshness and grace of their early years". To all parents, uncles, Nomore double std, practise what you preach :-)

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Cynicus 5/29/2009 10:17:08 AM
When you equate promiscuity with confidence, then you expose your awe-inspiring lack of perception, knowledge and understanding! Explaining the deeper meaning to you would (to quote Arlene ("Garfield")) be rather "like swatting a fly with a Buick". My goodness!

nokuthula 5/29/2009 10:21:02 AM
you know the truth is the problem lies with your child itself how you as a parent have taught them I'm sayin this cause I'm 19 i do chat on mxit,mig33 and myspace but people i chat with know that i dont like porn stuff so they never send me or request that i send them porn stuff it all just lies in as a child what you think is wrong or right and just think whether your parents will be happy if they saw what you send to other people like really all these chat & phone companies are innocent.

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you know the truth is the problem lies with your child itself how you as a parent have taught them I'm sayin this cause I'm 19 i do chat on mxit,mig33 and myspace but people i chat with know that i dont like porn stuff so they never send me or request that i send them porn stuff it all just lies in as a child what you think is wrong or right and just think whether your parents will be happy if they saw what you send to other people like really all these chat & phone companies are innocent.

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Carry 5/29/2009 10:22:54 AM
Don't blame parents that give their children cellphones, allow them some TV (there is balance!!!). A cellphone is a wonderful tool, as parents, to ALWAYS be able to contact your children is a blessing. If your child doesn't climb off the bus from school, wouldn't you want to be able to contact them??? There are many factors involved. Not all parents are innocent, not all parents are guilty.

marlene 5/29/2009 10:22:59 AM
to all the idiots who suggest that you should just smack a child when he is naughty. I guess you don't have any children! Do yourself a favour and learn more about Asperger Syndrome and Autism. make sure you KNOW your child before you just smack him. Children with AS don't respond to smacking at all, in fact you can hit them with a belt and they wont feel a thing - hitting a child with a learning disability is EXTREMELY cruel!

Mandy 5/29/2009 10:26:41 AM
A society gets the teenagers they deserve. Bring back family values. Teach your children about having faith, respect for themselves and each other. Lead by example. Stop being negative. Smile more. Explain to your children that for every action there is a reaction and that karma is a bitch.

Carry 5/29/2009 10:37:33 AM
A big problem parents have today, is what happens in schools... You can teach them morals, live with the right example, etc. You cannot control what they hear at school. There is a lot of pressure placed on kids today. I think its harder for them now, that it was for us then. A friend of mine's daughter was RAPED a few weeks ago by 5 teens. She was waiting for the bus, standing by the school gate!!!!! Her innocence and will to live has been stolen!!!

Johncarlos 5/29/2009 10:40:40 AM
Porn achieves no good, but Kamasutra does for a married couple. I don't think a couple should find anything intimate about porn

Fraud 5/29/2009 10:47:05 AM
Zuma is also responsible for global warming, recession, worldwide economic meltdown.... (the article is about a worldwide problem, for which you have blamed Zuma. So using your reasoning, we can blame Zuma's dealings with Shaik for the worldwide economic meltdown. We can blame his many wives for global warming. What else am I missing?)

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Clint 5/29/2009 11:18:12 AM
Marlene...I doubt very much that the children reffered to in this article have AS or Autism.In fact I believe children with autism to be fairly bright.In the context of the commentaries though I cannot see them refering to children with disabilities.@ Johncarlos shame mate.. you need the Kama sutra to teach you?

Brandy 5/29/2009 11:21:46 AM
I personally don't think sex education gave these children a license to have sex,they would do it anyway and since adults have no control over what they do,we might as well acknowledge that they do it and give them the necessary tools to protect themselves.I must add that today's celebrities aren't the perfect examples either,no matter how pretty JLO or Beyonce is,there's no justification for them appearing half naked on TV,what kind of message does such action send to the kidz?

Capital Q 5/29/2009 11:57:16 AM
You constantly amaze me with your insightful posts. Once again you are spot on with your reasoning!!! Parents are a lot to blame (in tow with marketing agencies). Don't let your child hold you 'hostage' and 'force' you to support degradation of morals with new cellphone, revealing 'sexy' clothing for pre-teens (and babies as the 'Jeans' nappy ad suggets). Before liberal people get on their high horse - I am not a conservative, but believe that children should be children for as long as they can

Bcp 5/29/2009 12:02:26 PM
Saw a married couple waging full-out war on Facebook last week. Wife attacking the husband, husband attacking the wife. These people were accusing one another of all kinds of things, drugs, cheating, strip-clubs, etc. If it were just people I knew, I would've dealt with it, but they are my daughter's dance teachers, so they're her friends too, she saw this whole fight going on as well. How sick, and how juvenile of them? They surely burst her bubble as to people looking up to. Technology...

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If you think porno sex and marriage sex are totally different to each other then maybe you are doing it wrong? Sure one has an emotional component and porn does not. @Linda if porn had such an effect on potential molesters then 95% of men would be running around looking for little boys. You are looking for a convenient excuse (BTW I think parental upbringing is the ONLY cause and the ONLY solution). Take responsibility yourself and stop blaming media.

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Cliff Bradley 5/29/2009 12:13:06 PM
What do you expect in a country where same sex marraiges, abortion and showering after sex are considered the norm ?

the poster formarly known as aj 5/29/2009 12:41:26 PM
I can see how a parent can teach kids at the right age that sex is a gift that can be expressed in a safe environment called mariage. I'd like to see you explain to your child that he has to go to bed because you want to watch some porn but it's bad for him until he is grown up. Will you watch some porn with your daughter when she turns 18? if not why not, if there is nothing dirty about porn.

Clint 5/29/2009 12:44:40 PM
You are the evil porn addict that children should beware off. WHAT do you know about AS or Autism, some people only find out years after they have been giving children hidings for being "naughty" that the child has an actual neurological disorder. Once again do you have children??? Porn is disgusting and is ruining our children, send an innocent child to school and he will come and tell you someone showed him porn, porn gets FORCED on children whether they want it or not, society is sick!

bonny 5/29/2009 1:07:29 PM
Wow, your perceptions are way off. So a confident woman is promiscuous, is she? And we are all competing for the last straight men available? A word of advice..don't go saying these things in person or you will probably end up with a hairbrush up your jacksy.

Spank Me 5/29/2009 1:08:07 PM
I have ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) and getting a good hiding from my parents when I didn't listen or misbehaved definitely helped. It made me pay attention very quickly despite my 'disability'.

Cliff Bradley 5/29/2009 1:20:07 PM
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Anonymous User 5/31/2009 8:40:48 PM
@ Clint 12:44:40. Who are you and at whom is your comment aimed

Michele 6/2/2009 7:48:41 AM
As the mother of two daughters (now 20 and 23) I think I am well qualified to comment. Parents need to STOP thinking that "their" child will never do these things, all children will, IF their parents do not give them a credible counter to what their friends are saying and doing. I had the brutal, honest, frank discussion with my daughters about sex, relationships and how one is perceived by boys, when my girls were 11 and 13 respectively. I never told them that they should not have sex but I told them in graphic details the pros and cons of having sex to young! I never allowed my girls to be on-line without me being right there and checking what they were up, not because I did not trust them but, because a misspelled word can land you on a horrible site. So........ parents step up to the plate and educate YOUR child, don't expect anyone else to do it, and don't cry foul when your child falls down (morally) because you were too lazy/embarassed etc to have the talk. Ok , off my soap box now!

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