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Robert Ndungane

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'Why hike the price?'

by Robert Ndungane
2009-06-30 12:14

Dear Editor,

I am sitting in my office wondering about Eskom. Recently Eskom was approved to charge 31% more fees to our electricity bill (of course this was highly controversial).

Added to this, in the last two weeks I have experienced three power failures, all in the evening when I come home from work. As I sit here I have a few questions I would like to pose (maybe the readers can answer them?):

1. What contingency plans were set up for the winter season? Was their a decision regarding the increase in electricity usage over the colder months?

2. Considering the above, I imagine that the plan was to display warning messages on the television during high peak viewing hours. But, a) displaying such messages presupposes that everyone is watching TV (which is course not true) and b) presupposes that everyone instantly obeys their call for switching off non-essential appliances.

3. Continuing; since when was a TV considered an essential appliance, over and above a geyser and a stove?

4. Why must we switch off our appliances if we are paying for the electricity? We pay for the electricity and so should have the right to all do our part. Sure, if the electricity were provided for free everyone should listen to the warning messages?

I hope to have some legitimate answers to these questions.

Robert Ndungane

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Juan 6/30/2009 12:22:54 PM
The hike will supposedly fund new powerstations and upgrades of infrastructure. (Only bee companies may do this, and it will be riddled with corruption and waste of taxpayers' money) See, a few years back the geniusses in the anc decided to buy jets and submarines worth BILLIONS instead of investing in our country's electricity supply. Now WE, the hardworking tax-paying citizend have to fork out even MORE money for the govamund's screw-ups. And what I JUST DONT GET is WHY the majority of these people STILL went ahead and voted for 'em!

Casper 6/30/2009 12:26:06 PM
I totally agree with you. Added to this the municipality charges us FAR more than they pay for electricity. If they reduced their profits we would not have to pay more.

JC 6/30/2009 12:27:09 PM
Dear Robert. Your money will be used (supposedly) to pay for the building of more power stations. The HUGE increase is due to the lack of strategic planning by the trucking mormons put in charge of Eishkom. Unlike other power utilities that raise funds via normal channels (banks, share issues etc), Eskom milks its household users dry while supplying to industry and internationally at below cost. U R thus paying for Mad Bob's power.

Mzi 6/30/2009 12:27:50 PM
Ndungane, the latest rise in electricity is fair. the only issue I have is that the timing was unfortunate. We are having the cheapest electricity in the continent. It is only wise that you and your kids follow TV messages from eskom because while your geyser is on, somebody in ICU is in need of that power. Eskom does not suffer but the end user is always disadvantaged. I hope you understand that it is beyond Eskom powers to ensure everyone has a light. 20 years from now, all power crisis should be resolved and eskom needs funding to do that. let's read a lot and talk less for a change.

sinking sibanda 6/30/2009 12:29:43 PM
hey ndungane,
next time around vote for the same palookas, and who knows maybe you will not have any water left in Africa.

Cynical 6/30/2009 12:30:13 PM
Don't waste the time of this forum asking these questions. Rather ask YOUR government, who have stuffed up the electricity situation in grand style, yes YOUR government for whom YOUR people vote over and over again. How's that for some good advice?!

SM 6/30/2009 12:31:09 PM
@ Author. Simple answer, because they can and don't need to think forward. The next time bonuses need to be paid the price will go up again or the gov will bail them out. All the talk is just that, lots of talk no action or accountability.

Juan 6/30/2009 12:34:36 PM
Well, this is just ANOTHER classic example of the geniusses in the anc government's failure to plan properly! Who needs electricity when we can have shiny new jets, submarines, bmw's and corvette's, HUH?

Juan @mzi 6/30/2009 12:36:39 PM
So HOW do you justify YOUR pathetic government rather buying submarines and private jets instead of investing in POWER STATIONS back in the day when we needed it most?! Now EVERYONE has to pay more money for your stoopid government's idiotic mistakes! - but your kind will just never learn.

Herman 6/30/2009 12:39:10 PM
i get a bill every month for +/- same amount (it is enormous) If i am at home the amount is the same, i usually go away during winter, (roughly 2 months) my bill is the same. It is a mess..overcharging????
where are the funds going too...
How does this work. They cannot take a proper reading or they are too lazy to read the meters or they take a guess.
TRUST ME---this 31% is just the start of a bigger mess. IT WILL NOT BE ENOUGH IN A YEARS TIME AND it will be pushed to huge increases.

Basically the man on the street is F*cked.
Thank god i am 82 years old and out of here soon.

Herman 6/30/2009 12:43:32 PM
one more thing i left out, my memory is fading me ...
these bastards conveniently left this huge increase for after the elections.
wake up people, smell all the corruption around you. This is one of many crisis we are going to see in the coming months.

SK 6/30/2009 12:45:54 PM
Some municipalities like Tshwane have there own power stations which they can run at full capacity to reduce the burden on Eishkom. We are now paying higher for power we have in-house(Municipalities) which the citizens have already paid for but and is standing idle to our financial detriment. Eishkom and the Municipailities busy with a big scam.

gpwengineer 6/30/2009 12:46:59 PM
No...lol. It is to fund Eskom staff's subsidised meals. Eskom spends about R300 000 a day on subsidised meals for their employees. Imagine.

Juan @ Herman 6/30/2009 12:47:35 PM
yes! STRANGE how the price hike was published AFTER the election. Let's hope the stupid masses won't be able to afford to go to the polling stations come next election!

SimonP 6/30/2009 12:48:15 PM
@Mzi, more indoctrinated rubbish, passing the blame to anyone but the government.

Mzi @ all anti-ANC 6/30/2009 12:59:46 PM
When ANC took over in 1994, we tasked alec erwin and susan shabangu to do an analysis on power needs. the report was given to Mbeki and was never revealed to the public. After five years mbeki apologised to eskom for the blunder.

Juan, I refer you to SA energy policy and the 2007 declaration my friend. The electricity crisis started showing in the late 70s, it was never an issue as the majority of people was still not electrified. thats the reason you did not see power outages. The BMWs, and private jets has nothing to do with the topic. If only your forefathers that you admire as your heroes have done a needs analysis on ekom... but pssss they never thought we will take over I guess.

JohnB 6/30/2009 1:02:54 PM
Who else is going to pay for your shack dwelling,lazy,striking people who are for ever saying I'M STRUUUUGGLING.For f#ck sakes i am also struggling.

Q 6/30/2009 1:03:19 PM
Was at Sun City couple of weeks ago. There was a Eskom Women’s Conference, all delegates stayed at Sun City for a week and all expenses was paid for. How do I know this? Spoke to on one of the delegates who was part of our fourball on the golf course instead of being in the conference.

warmaster 6/30/2009 1:05:30 PM
Eskom actually only needs a 10% tarrif increase. The other 21% is to cover for the people who cannot afford it and does not pay for electricity, but still uses it.

Kolobe 6/30/2009 1:08:29 PM
You rich peple who are living in big houses should be able to afford this electricty hike.We are still according to Eskom one off the cheapest in the world..

Glock 22 c 6/30/2009 1:18:19 PM
So there is 31 % more for the ANC bra's to steal from now on. NO OTHER REASON

XXX 6/30/2009 1:19:31 PM
I think you people must go and work there (i.e. Juan, JC, SM, Mzi and Herman).Umbutho!!!

Stillwaiting@Mzi 6/30/2009 1:21:52 PM
Plse tell me you dont believe all that sh*t Eskom bosses tell u.If u offer me services & u tell me you can deliever, then do it! Don't start bulsh*ting me with all the lies.I feel sorry for the POP's, they voted "better life for the ministers" Together we can Screw this country

Wisdom 6/30/2009 1:23:36 PM
The reason is because of AA/BEE that's why. These bastards probably have a qualification but don't have the experience which is required to make strategic decisions!

Just Me 6/30/2009 1:24:03 PM
The honest truth is that eskom is not hiking prices to keep up with demand (infrastucture), but to keep up paying the bonuses/benefits that do to their employees. Just do your research and find out how much they subsidice there employees home bonds with....AMAZING!!!

lekabisto 6/30/2009 1:31:39 PM
Funny enough the people that will be hit the hardest by this or suffer more from this pay hike, is the same people who voted for this govenrment and will still vote for it election after election! This is just mind boggling stuff !!!!!

An0n 6/30/2009 1:32:10 PM
Unfortunately, i see the need for it, but that doe not make it right. Well I am going to say it. Typical black mentality. Dont have the brains to think ahead, now that the poop has hit the fan, they want to milk the average citizen. What kind of "performance" bonuses are these buffoons getting, even thought they don't deserve it. Typical of ANC led BEE fed companies. The top management abuse their power, yet at the end of the day nothing happens. They should stop thinking off their 7 wives and 30 children, and do their job. If this kind of behavior does not stop, then we WILL be the next ZIM.

Virgin Queen 6/30/2009 1:32:37 PM
gpwengineer it is not only the meals, word has it that Eishkom pays 60% of its employees housing subsidy on a monthly basis,so you see as usual, the poor funds it and the rich gets even richer.

Greg 6/30/2009 1:40:59 PM
Aahh... welcome another era of ANC rule. If intelligent individuals had orchestrated what we call "strategic planning", these problems would have been avoided years ago. But alas, not for Eskom, because they tackle problems only as they arise, which is a great strategy. Well, the proof is in the pudding, and the only thing that comes out of ANC run companies *sigh* SAA, Eskom, SABC, is F A I L U R E, debt, corruption, and mismanagement. At a cost to ALL US SOUTH AFRICANS, but the idiotic, group-serving masses, keep voting for them and then complain about rate hikes? Crazy man, you guys need to hit rock bottom before you will see the light, and get over f***ing Apartheid. There will not be much left if you keep allowing these govt run companies to get away with daylight robbery. Pathetic, suck it up, these are thanks to your vote, your choice, now take it up the ass Dingaan.

nigel 6/30/2009 1:41:44 PM
Simple The ANC govt. failed to plan ahead; 1) They failed to maintain equipment & plant 2) they failed to invest in power generation & distribution networks 3) they failed to retain key staff because of BEE 4) they sold power to industry & neighboring countries below cost 5) they failed to increase the price of electricity regularly to keep up with the above. To summarise, the ANC led Govt. failed you (& me), now we have a 31% increase & our reserve margin is too low & will be for the next 8 years, during which we will be in for power cuts & more price hikes. Hope you didn't vote for them!

Cynical 6/30/2009 1:42:51 PM
Talking about electricity, I have found that the power in my area seems to be weaker at night - it takes a lot longer to warm things than before. I wonder if anyone else has noticed this? Probably a stealthy move ny Eskom to "save" electricity. Tossers.

cedb00 6/30/2009 1:44:53 PM
I studied with an Eskom employee last year (part-time). Come assignment time, he phones everyone for their assignments as he does not know what to do. He barely attended class and heaven knows how he passed, yet he walked around bragging about his R72,000 a year car allowance and drove around in a brand new BMW!!

WILDFIRE 6/30/2009 1:46:30 PM
Yes , I cannot understand it either.All I can say is that the ANC does not know the word planning at all. The man in the street keeps on having to pay for the huge shortcomings of such a lame , criminal government.There should be a law against these squatter dwellers stealing electricity.They should pay for it the same as others do. If not they must sit in darkness and think who to vote for the next election.Strange indeed how this 31% increase is announced after the election. Poor government indeed.

Topdog 6/30/2009 1:46:47 PM
@Kolobe. How is the engineering taxi business going?( or is it taxi engineering?)

Juan @mzi 6/30/2009 1:48:35 PM
You fit the stereotype 1000% as you can't understand when money is thrown at submarines, jets and parties and NOT electricity capacity, things like this WILL happen!! - I bet you cant take the FACT that electricity is a WESTERN invention! And by the way my 'forefathers' have nothing to do with this. I'm just happy they kept filth like you in check for so long!

Anon 6/30/2009 1:51:09 PM
I would like the government to answer why put up the electricity when you giving all the squatter camps free electricity & water! o yes i forgot we are paying for that also, besides taking taxes & using it for other things that do not benefit the working class man.
Why cant they see that us people who earn an average salary & dont live in big fancy houses & get R1 000 000 car allowance to buy fancy cars are suffering with taxes,petrol & now electricity why dont you people just kill us one time then let us suffer the way we are...

Ivan @ Ndungane 6/30/2009 1:51:23 PM
Cause we 1stly have to prepare ourselves for the immanent attack from counter revolutionaries, who will invade SA from Lesotho and Swaziland. This costs huge cash and as such we need submarines and corvettes, and chuck in a couple of jets aswell. This all costs 100Billion ZAR and is a much better spend option than improving infrastructure and power generation, not to mention water purification, health services and dare I say it EDIKASHUN. This all because we have the brains trust of the African National Criminals, driving policy in the country. So whilst the majority continue to vote these thieves into power the majority should shut up and enjoy the extra cost they are paying for the privilidged few to live in warm, cosy mansions, driving expensive flashy cars. Oh and if they(the general populace) die before they get lifesaving healthcare, tough. The governmunt ministers need more money for themselves. So what's the odd power cut in the greater scheme of things?

Cynical@Kolobe 6/30/2009 1:52:09 PM
"You rich peple (sic) who are living in big houses should be able to afford this electricty hike.We are still according to Eskom one off (sic) the cheapest in the world.. "

If you watched the news last night, instead of picking your nose, you would have seen that our electricity hike will make us one of the most expensive in the world and could deter future investors.

SimonP 6/30/2009 1:53:57 PM
@Mzi, you summed up your own persecution complex by stating "all anti ANC". You dont seem to get it, the fault for Eskoms failings is 100% the governments. The govt since 94 has been ANC. Mbeki (the snake) is ANC. So it is anti useless government you should be addressing. It just so happens to be ANC. drop the chip and realise what the majority on here want is well run utilities regadless of what party.

Sinudeity @lekabisto 6/30/2009 1:54:19 PM
Dont worry Kekabisto, the ANC forsaw this, hence, if you are middle-class you pay more, otherwise, no. Good strategy ANC.

Mphoza@ all you pea brains 6/30/2009 1:55:39 PM
I'm not supporting the hike, this too late to complain though. We all had a opportunity to oppose this hike during the public hearings conducted by NERSA. Where were you? Why did any of you morons go out there in numbers to voice out your silly view? Grow up idiots!

Juan - SIMPLE SOLUTION 6/30/2009 1:56:39 PM
Let's just all raise our fists, shout viva!, amanla!, then throw rocks, burn tyres, loot and go on the rampage. THEN everything will be fine! - That's MOS how things work here, huh?

terryt 6/30/2009 2:01:30 PM
If you read the statement from Eskom, this 31% is to be used for running costs NOT for new plant. We are still going to be charged for new infrastructure!

Gareth 6/30/2009 2:01:58 PM
Exactly right. We are paying for other people's electricity, that's why they need the hike. We must realise that while they may have political power, we have the economic power. We have the money, and they depend on us for that money. We should all boycott Eskom and far as possible, use gas wherever possible, solar panels, even candles. We can strangle them. WE HAVE THE POWER BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MONEY! Remember that.

Juan @kolobe 6/30/2009 2:06:33 PM
Did you ever sit and think that 'rich people' worked hard and smart for their money, while poor masses voted THEMSELVES into this mess? you fell out of the stupid tree, and hit every branch on the way down!

Ivan @Virgin Queen 6/30/2009 2:08:34 PM
Consider if you will, the "rich" your are referring too, are by far "black" in majority at eksdom. Its them that are getting richer. The majority of whiteys bolted from ESCOM when it was clear that the writing was on the wall. Now the interesting part is that all the whitey engineers and tradesmen are being subcontracted back to EKSDOM at exhorbitant rates. And who do we have to thank for that, you guessed it the ANC and it's rediculous AA & BEE policies. dumb (u^7s!

Mzi 6/30/2009 2:12:55 PM
@Juan The governmunt needs these to protect our country. Why else do you buy submarines and planes... duh.

Anon 6/30/2009 2:18:17 PM
Now there is a great business model for you: A company asking its clients (the public) to buy less of its products (electricity) and then make it more expensive!!??? No wonder they are in deep shi@!!! @Mzi - if you want to supply more people with electricity that did not have it previously, then you need to plan to build more power stations, even a moron knows that.

JohnB 6/30/2009 2:18:31 PM
@Virgin Queer I'm rich and proud of it..I don't care if they raise it by another 30% and another 30%..I will still be smilling all the way to the bank..

ann 6/30/2009 2:19:27 PM
we have the highest electricity charges in the world, why? because we supply FOC to Bob in Zim and WE pay for it. And guess what? everything will now be hiked by 30 - 50% because of this increase and then Tito will moan that we the people spend to much.....

Shrek 6/30/2009 2:22:42 PM
Lekabisto, you are absolutely correct. I am not surprised by the increase, it was on the cards. In any case I have planned for this...no more maid, garden services, using car washes, eating out as much, do my own home maintenance/repairs etc. Bad for the economy 'cos this creates some unemployment. Imagine if everyone implemented similar measures. Though but thats the way things go.

Friends of Herman 6/30/2009 2:35:22 PM
Kolobe and Mzi
you are both as THICK AS A BRICK.

You will teach your kids, and they will in turn teach their kids that as long as the rest of the world pays more, we are ok to pay the high tariffs.

You and your school of thought will remain as DUDS in Africa where the people will bail you out until they cannot anymore, and then you will end up like the rest of Africa.



emma 6/30/2009 2:48:13 PM
yes the middle class is so rich we can pay for your electricity, your free schooling, your free university's, your free water, your free transport, your free hospitals, your free etc etc etc, wonder who is going to keep on working to support you, I reckon everyone is already passed gatvol supporting you and your 12 children for free. I will rqather quit my job, sit at home, fire my domestic and see how she supports her children and the rest of her family.

Kolobe 6/30/2009 2:49:15 PM
@Juan Yes but the rich people and all you other people in the past regime stole from the masses and deprived them of all their dignity.

Kolobe 6/30/2009 2:55:42 PM
@Ivan We are short of electricity because we now have power in the townships which we were deprived of in the past.

Ivan 6/30/2009 3:01:46 PM
The ANC cadres running EKSDOM are too sh!t scred to take on the multinationals like BHP/MOZAL/ALUSAF, who are getting power subsidised by the general SA consumer. They pay a fraction of the price the man in the street does for power. The reason for this is that they are getting their palms greased by these companies. Then there is the MAD DOG of Africa who get's his power for very little if anything as he is owed somne favours by the clowns currently in power.

Anon 6/30/2009 3:02:03 PM
@ Friens of Herman: Mzi and Kolobe are unable to teach themselves, let alone any kids, God forbid they have any!?
@Kolobe: have you found at least 1 of your four fathers, probably was a great night for mamma?

Juan @mzi 6/30/2009 3:02:32 PM
No, SA baught all these military toys (unused and rusting now) so the menesta's involved (ans zuma) could make MILLIONS out of bribes, etc. THAT'S WHY! - They could have been HONEST and CARING and invested in THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THEM by expanding eskom's capacity! But you don't strike me as the thinking kind. At least you have a yellow tshirt to keep you warm once the power goes off again, huh! I guess you win!

Friends of Herman 6/30/2009 3:05:29 PM
MZI
Have you seen these submarines and planes?
They dont exist.
The billions do exist in foreign accounts.
When are you going to learn something?

Once again we have to teach you, or else you are not capable of thinking for yourself.


SM 6/30/2009 3:07:07 PM
@ XXX. Are you offering a job????? Would gladly take it so I can also get my share of the money for doing nothing. By the way did some consulting there and I know what is cooking. Even Mzi is blaiming the ANC for keeping a report out of the public eye to be able to say: "there is no problem"

vankuijeren14 6/30/2009 3:15:32 PM
i thinks its clear what the problem is...only 8million people in south africa have the intelligence to figure out that we are being screwed...the other 32million are happy to see a black face in power...no matter what it costs them.

Duzi @ Mzi 6/30/2009 3:16:48 PM
LOL!!!! Who are we being protected from? Zi Germans?! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Nazi's are dead my friend and N Korea are to busy with the States. Maybe we need protection from Aquaman and his evil empire of death starfishes!!

Juan @kolobe 6/30/2009 3:17:57 PM
You can't deprive someone of something they never had!

dhv 6/30/2009 3:21:33 PM
When watching Oprah and that special message from Telkom runs across my screen, I lean over and switch on another light.

SimonP 6/30/2009 3:22:31 PM
@Mzi You really can not see the woods from the trees. "The governmunt needs these to protect our country. Why else do you buy submarines and planes..." WHY ELSE? TO ENRICH THEMSELVES YOU IDIOT!!!

Anon 6/30/2009 3:23:13 PM
@Mphoza, the NER is a bunch of bafoons!!@#$ They said after the hearings that they will go and investigate the "drivers" of the high Eskom costs. This was the reason for the hearings, they should have doen their research beforehand. Not give a 31% increase and then say they will investigate! Solodarity gave them the reasons for the price increase (mostly bad planning and wrong contractors used), but they are a bunch of incompetant idiots!!@

geanann 6/30/2009 3:24:09 PM
@Kolobe
If you believe ESKOM on that price bull, you are not only naive but also not too widely read.

Ivan @Mphoza 6/30/2009 3:24:43 PM
You dumb schmuck, a total of 176 submissions submitted to NERSA, 175 AGAINST (NGO's , business etc), and 1 FOR (the raise)and yep u guessed it, GOVERNMUNT/ESKOM. Guess which side won the argument you moron! So it does not matter if they have these farces or not you D!(khead let alone PEA BRAIN, the ANC will do as it pleases, when it pleases as long as their palms are being greased. F/wit

sardonicus 6/30/2009 3:26:38 PM
Hey Robert, just try skipping payments or even better, get them to rectify a bill that is clearly 100 times more than your usual account. Come now chiner, how many times must they explain it to you people, the bosses need to keep up their lifestyles and couldn't give a rats bum about me or you. But its the ANC's fault, its the previous administrations lack of foresight in many aspects of governance that sees us sliding into the great abyss known as Zimbabwe...

Sinudeity @Mzi 6/30/2009 3:27:03 PM
LOL, to protect the country?! Do you feel safer with all these submarines? Do you know the TRUE REASON, why Mbeki's ANC fellows bought submarines etc? TO ENRICH THEMSELVES! Next time you see Mbeki, ask him where he got that R30 million from, that he donated to the ANC. LOL, 'to keep us safe'.

@ KOLOBE 6/30/2009 3:34:25 PM
You cant think hey ?Dont worry blame apartheid because you have an IQ of a table spoon.You still think every whire man got million from the apartheid government ? WTF you are seruaaasly stupid only a very few got rich from being corrupt and criminals. Now that rings a bell doesnt it ? I wonder where that is happening at present ? Go ask someone with a brain to tell you. Your way of think will always you your downfall not the white man ...GLOCK 22

SimonP 6/30/2009 3:38:58 PM
@Mzi - protect the country from what/who? Why else?? ARE U REALLY THAT THICK, the deal was done so a few ANCers could enrich themselves....didnt you hear about Shabir or have you chosen to forget about it. If the ANC told you that you are white youd believe it.

Mphoza 6/30/2009 3:39:12 PM
The whole lot of you are racist and will never change. What's with intolerance and insults? Don't you folks have anything better to do? At least just do your work and stop spending time on the net because you not bring anything to the table here. Morons

Sinudeity @Kolobe 6/30/2009 3:41:42 PM
"Stole from us in the past" - Dang Kolobe, how many white people need to be killed, and their homes robbed, before its enough? The past, is in the past, almost 20 decades. Im guessing the white people will forever pay, by being robber, murdered, discriminated with BEE/AA, equality in rugby and soccer. Until the day they fight back? Start planting terrorist bombs?

CJ Eng 6/30/2009 3:42:15 PM
hmmm so when i recieved my BscEng and phoned eskom for a job... only to be told that they DO NOT HIRE MECHANICAL ENGINEERS, that was correct hey... probably why koeberg fell apart!

@MZI, please tell me who the hell we need to be protected from.... ze GERMANS? i know for a fact that they don't have enough pilots to fly their jets so they were a massive waste of cash!

what a load of crap... pity that, this was a nice country with SURPLUS electricity till the new "gavamunt" came in and mothballed powerstations without even thinking about replacing them first!! hence our current situation so please don't be so naive to say that the power crisis started in the 70's

zeze 6/30/2009 3:42:52 PM
WHILE THIS COUNTRY IS LED BY BLACKS EVERYTHING WILL ALWAYS BE A BIG F*****UP

Mzi @ all anti-ANC 6/30/2009 3:51:16 PM
You talking utter rubbish because the few who got electricity since 1994 wont make a KW difference so try another plan to cover for the anc. 80 % of this country STILL doesn't have electricity

Worried@Mzi&Kolobe 6/30/2009 3:53:17 PM
Dudes u worry me alot.Eskom hike has nothing to do with race, but everything to do with the country being screwed. If we threaten the investors where will job creation come from?? unless u believe that sh*t JZ was saying about 500000 jobs 2be created be 4 the end of 09.Guyz wakeup & smell the coffee. we r be screwed in the name of infrastrature.Zim here we come

grysgat 6/30/2009 3:55:17 PM

Kolobe 6/30/2009 2:55:42 PM
@Ivan We are short of electricity because we now have power in the townships which we were deprived of in the past.:: Yes and we stole all you brains as well !!!

SimonP 6/30/2009 4:02:40 PM
@Friends of Herman, I can guarantee one thing and that is Mzi will never, and never want to think for himself. He is a proud carrier of the ANC excuse manual, apparently it offers excuses for all the ANC blunders and because it is written by ANC for ANC it has to be 100% believed.

M 6/30/2009 4:06:14 PM
@Kolobe: Why should I finance you? And I don't have a big expensive house, I just don't chase away the Eskom meter reader or the sheriff like you do when he wants to get the money from you (the little you need to pay). Maybe you should get some manners!

M 6/30/2009 4:10:03 PM
@Kolobe: Exactly. You answered the ESKOM debacle. You now have electricity in the townships WHICH YOU DONT PAY FOR. Can I come take stuff from your house that I finance with my money? I think 90% of your house contents plus house is actually mine. Maybe you can come and work for free for me, so that I keep on paying your electricity/water/health care/TV license/school fees.

See I would never get these things for free if I didn't pay for them. That's how it is in the real world. Your banana govt of morons hasn't figured out that part yet.

SM 6/30/2009 6:45:47 PM
@ kolobe: Seems you have also been deprived of a brain, hence your inability to debate or make any sort of contribution. And no you cannot blame apartheid for ypur lack of a brain, as apartheid did not deprave you of procreation. Print the article "tell no lies" and take the rest of the week, no make it a month, off to read and try and understand it. The past is just that, try and make a P-O-S-I-T-I-V-E contribution to the future of SA.

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