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DD Maule

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'Leaders should set example

by DD Maule
2009-05-29 09:44

The long arm of the law is so crippled by corruption that it could very well claim for a disability grant, and it will take more than just throwing money into the copper's coffers to solve the problem.

Bringing criminals to justice should be a process that happens from the top down, but how can we expect to solve crime when our leading political lights are famous for various sins, both criminal and social - should they not be setting an example?

Why should politicians be driven around in police escorts that drive faster than the legal limit? Why do police officers not wear safety belts or use hands-free systems for their cellphones? why should they get away with breaking the law ultimately setting the precedent for younger South Africans?

Our esteemed leader Jacob Zuma sings a song about a machine gun. Oh yeah, that sets the right tone for getting the teenagers to work. Why work when you take what you want at the click of a trigger?

But JZ and his cohorts are not the only ones to blame for the reckless abandonment of laws and common decency.

We the average South African have also sunk into the depths of the law breaking society. Now I know you're going to ask me "but I haven?t killed anyone, or stolen from any one just how am I breaking the law"?

And the answer is easy - driving over the speed limit is breaking the law, talking on your cellphone with using a hands-free kit is breaking the law, changing lanes without using an indicator, using office equipment for private use, hell tossing your cigarette out the car window is breaking the law, albeit the law of decency rather than criminal.

So if average South Africans began a mass return to abiding by the law, would we not free up the law keepers to do just that - keep the law?

Yes I know that they're all a bunch of corrupt officials who'll do anything for a bribe, but if we don't give them the chance to ask for it, will they still be corrupt?

What about some kindness and compassion, what about letting that person in the space in front of you next time you speed down Malibongwe, after all one good turn deserves another. And I have often found that the small favour granted here, means one granted to me in the future!

What about smiling at the cashier next time you go shopping? What about helping you colleague when they're under pressure and living up to the name of Sunny South African?

You never know. Your sudden heeding of the law may just set an example for someone to follow, to lay down the life of crime and embark on a journey of peace, work and nation building.

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Eles 5/29/2009 10:00:06 AM
They should plan ahead and leave on time for their meetings just like we have to. We should only move for emergency vehicles. In fairness am slightly warming to JZ haven't heard him sing that horrible song since his presidency and he seems more dignified. If we all just changed lanes when we need to we would all get to our destination much quicker. I see people throwing cigarette butts out of their cars on a daily basis - no class!

Deon 5/29/2009 10:00:36 AM
With idiots like Julius Malema and his gloats of verbal trash, it's difficult for any examples to be set for our children. The unwritten law of the ANC is: "It's OK to belittle a white male, but if you belittle a black male you are a racist!!" That's why, not only are the ANC leaders corrupt, but they're also a bunch of racist hypocrites!!!

bob123 5/29/2009 10:01:25 AM
stuff that. If I let others into the traffic it would take me 4 hours to get to work. I specifically bought a BMW so that I could just shoot to the front of the queue and to hell with everyone else. Sooner or later I will be a victim of crime and probably end up dead or disabled, so may as well make "hay while the sun shines" ha ha ha

scorp 5/29/2009 10:01:33 AM
Enough said...... Lets just get rid of taxi drivers, and our road will improve already.

Johncarlos 5/29/2009 10:02:20 AM
I agree the most with the part about bribes. It always baffle me how its only traffic cops who're corrupt when it takes two people to do the deed. I mean, it takes a lot of guts, and even a criminal mind, for one to rather bribe than rightfully pay a few extra hundreds for the actual fine. Without a doubt, its the one who offers the bribe who's corrupt the most.

neil anderson 5/29/2009 10:03:12 AM
if we respond to the stupid comments from kabelo on this forum then im afraid we are just as stupid as him, enjoy your weekend!

Jurie 5/29/2009 10:03:32 AM
But unfortunately, in my opinion at least, the nation has chosen it's path by voting for a "man" with hundreds of criminal charges against him, the shower power man, the man, as you said, who sings about machine guns. Your idea to start abiding by the law might just work, but a cheetah doesn't change its spots. Neither will government.

Juan 5/29/2009 10:04:50 AM
It's an age old african tradition: The 'kings' can get all the wealth and do as they please, when 'the people' live in poverty/squatter camps and crime. Concepts like 'equality before the law' are seen as western/colonial and are rejected by africans, even if its to their own detriment. Unfortunately intellect will never prevail and thus the situation just gets worse.

jb 5/29/2009 10:04:59 AM
You ask: "how can we expect to solve crime when our leading political lights are famous for various sins, both criminal and social" We can't. "Should they not be setting an example?" They should, but they why would they?

Mandla Mahlangu 5/29/2009 10:05:33 AM
Good article but please leave Zuma alone..who said umshini wami must be blammed for crime?

Sarah 5/29/2009 10:07:38 AM
If we ALL put our foot down and say "screw you, I am not paying you a bribe" we might stand a fighting chance of creating a society where asking is not even an option. (Singapore is a good example of this code of ethics.)

Halfwise 5/29/2009 10:09:00 AM
She is always insulting Zuma or are you a DA sheep?

bones 5/29/2009 10:10:56 AM
Very original article, did you copy and paste it off a template ? Seriously can't we sticky some topics, and every time some random regurgitated garbage is thrown @ news24, they just get a reply message referencing the same old slightly reworded junk that someone posted a few weeks back.

Mkhwenyane 5/29/2009 10:11:10 AM
Like it. One random act of kindness each day goes a long way.

Glock 22 c 5/29/2009 10:12:09 AM
We will have to start.Leaving it for the government is not going to work they are the real criminals in this country. I have said this before: Remove all the flashy cars and the 80 grand a month salary's and then see if they still want to be politicians

Angela 5/29/2009 10:12:41 AM
.. Excellent article... We all need to take notice of what we do in our personal lives where we are breaking the law, Don't drink and drive, don't offer bribes to officers, don't buy stolen goods not matter how good a deal it is, use the sms line for any suspicious criminal activity etc etc. We can all play our part.....

Poloyatonki 5/29/2009 10:14:02 AM
LEAVE ZUMA ALONE, MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!11

gotha 5/29/2009 10:14:16 AM
what are you smoking dude, you definitely blowing hot air today. You cannot rid Africa of its crime, corruption and criminal behaviour. It is embedded deep in its roots. You are wasting your time. It has been tried and tested, everyone wants a share of Africa's pie.All across Africa, from Idiot Amin to Mugs round the corner and now our newly crowned king JZ all are corrupt as hell.

jen 5/29/2009 10:17:05 AM
you are the kind of person i make a special effort NOT to let in to any traffic queue. In fact I would try to obstruct you in any way I could because you are a selfish arse.

Johan Britz 5/29/2009 10:17:22 AM
You bad-mouthed just about the entire ANC now. Expect to be called a racist, that's about the only end-all attack their supporters can throw your way. Either way, I agree with you.

Kalakune 5/29/2009 10:19:19 AM
I like your thinking but you lost it by bringing Zuma into it, now the whole article lost a grip???..since we all know that Zille always do shit?

sande 5/29/2009 10:20:15 AM
after a while we read a material that is constructive. Crime and abuse happen in our neughborhoods if we stand up against criminals and corrupt officials we will have a better country. Families must be training centres for decent society and churches/social movements must contribute to build a better country

jen 5/29/2009 10:20:38 AM
better still, get the name and registration number of the traffic cop who asks for bribes, and report them.

Russel 5/29/2009 10:20:56 AM
You're right. This is the ideal to strive for. However, as mentioned in a Scientific American article about cheating in sports, people tend to be dragged down to the lowest common denominator. Why should the average South African be disadvantaged by obeying the law when everyone else is breaking it? This will require a huge effort on the part of all of us! But let's actually try it!!

SimonP 5/29/2009 10:21:24 AM
If the guys at the top condone crminality it tells Joe Public its OK. The example has been set by bringing convicted fraudsters (Winnie)into parliament and giving guilty travelgate MPs top jobs. Until the Government condemn rather than condone crime you can not expect the masses to abide by the law.

Thuli 5/29/2009 10:24:44 AM
Now I know my grandfather had dog called bob, you are one stupidy piece of work, it's morons like you who contribute massively in distracting our country. This country is destroyed by the people who can afford but very irresponsible you pay bribes, buy stolen goods

Sinudeity 5/29/2009 10:26:01 AM
Hehe, ur jz is a prime example of whats wrong. Investigation for corruption, so you close down the law enforcement agency responsible. Instead of having his day in court, he used 100 million of TAX money, not ANC money. I would LOVE to see a man on the street, receive 100 million from the state to defend himself. JZ got away with crime, so why shouldnt the rest of South Africa? Shit runs down, and guess who is at the top?

mzi 5/29/2009 10:29:34 AM
where have you been, leaders are walking the talk. Stop referring to zuma being corrupt, he is clean. The song is a revolutionary song you idiot. we are from the struggle and we understand why the song is still relevant because of my brothers are not yet free. You need to accept that zuma is our president irrespective of which party you affiliated with. If you watched news recently you would understand that the new government is the first to be accessible to the public & allow to be scrutinizd..

samsam 5/29/2009 10:30:53 AM
I find it strange in this forum, because if you are political clued up some of your comments, are not posted, but for those who are political blind/puppets (Thembisile,Nthuwatuwa) and those RACIST(Juan,Karen,Glock etc)are most favoured IDIOTS. while the likes of Halfwise,Farmboy,& Poloyatonki its shame on us, where is freedom of speech, I regret the death of Hani in this country, we are far behind where we are suppose to be with democracy

Alicia 5/29/2009 10:36:58 AM
Thank Heavens not mine...have set their leadership qualities and iniqualities in stone. We all know...unfortunately... a few choice things. I agree with you fully, and also regarding Singapore. As for the leaders, they are morally so inadequate, there is virtually nothing they can do to vilify themselves. Leapords never change their spots. In this country it is up to the people to show the leaders how to live a decent and respectable life. The youngsters roll models have let them down shamefully.

Johncarlos 5/29/2009 10:44:52 AM
I urge u to read history books between the 1600s and 1800s, for both the 'westerners' and 'Africans'. Compare the lifestyle during the Dark Ages and royal Africa. Compare how things typically were in a European castle and African village. Its often said that when u point one finger at someone, the other three(except the thumb) are pointing at u.

bob123 5/29/2009 10:45:23 AM
How would like it if every time whities got together they sang the Hitler Youth Song?

Cry 5/29/2009 10:46:37 AM
Juan, Gotha and the ilk, when are you leaving this continent, because you surely does not belong here - the sooner, the better

Shimane Mbuyisa 5/29/2009 10:46:58 AM
You see everything in black and white. What was African about what those big corporate bosses did at Enron and the latest ones who fly their jets to meetings with the black led US government for bail-outs? Closer to home, what is "African" about what Carl Niehaus' greed and zest for freebies which he undertakes to pay for, only to duck and dive? What is African about the manner in which all the African oil belongs to British and French companies? U are a hopeless racists

Cry 5/29/2009 10:47:00 AM
Juan, Gotha and the ilk, when are you leaving this continent, because you surely does not belong here - the sooner, the better

bob123 5/29/2009 10:47:33 AM
ha ha ha - I don't have a BMW and I do let folks in. Just having a laugh. But it does seem to be those BM drivers, doesn't it?

Johncarlos 5/29/2009 10:48:27 AM
I'd like to know what the 'corrupt as hell' conclusion is based on, and what criteria is used for the 'hell' part. Also, I'd like to understand where the 'its deep rooted in Africa' part comes from, with the presumption that 'the West' is free of any corruption ofcourse. Ur ignorance baffles me.

nada 5/29/2009 10:48:36 AM
why politicians r driven in police escorts? cos it's globally accepted a safety measure to protect high profile ppl. why police get away with breaking law? they don't. they get prosecuted, yesterday some cops were sentenced years in prison for takin bribes. JZ is to blame for lawlessness? Com'on. How do u even begin to justify that. How long has JZ been president? How long have we had lawlessness? Think through your statements instead of repeating some lame rhetoric u heard in a pub somewhere!

Cry 5/29/2009 10:49:48 AM
Juan, Gotha and the ilk, when are you leaving this continent, because you surely does not belong here - the sooner, the better

bob123 5/29/2009 10:49:50 AM
Just by the way, that machine gun song has about as much relevance 15 years after the end of apartheid as would the Brits moaning about being colonised by the Roman Empire.

Lucky Ralawe 5/29/2009 10:50:39 AM
Come and think of it: blacks were denied education, were forced to live in squalid conditions and to only earn a living as gardeners, maids, etc, while the white man took all the wealth and flew all over the world enjoying holidays and living in the best places the world has to offer. Yes, whites were Kings then, and took all the wealth condemning blacks to diseases and squalor. How the tables have turned

bob123 5/29/2009 10:50:43 AM
and your comment about Zille is just as bad you total pratt.

Philly 5/29/2009 10:51:21 AM
Agree 100%. Would sooner match paint than let a guy like bob in front of me. Someone genuinely trying to get into a lane without forcing to the front - no probs.

Glock 22 c 5/29/2009 10:52:41 AM
I tried that and was arrested and thrown in the back of a cop van and was made out to be a liar by 5 BEE cops

bob123 5/29/2009 10:55:24 AM
"zuma being corrupt, he is clean." Sure. He had a shower, didn't he? ha ha ha

Fraud 5/29/2009 10:55:40 AM
that has politicians and celebs with perfect morals and no shady past...don't tell me about Obama; he's an unknown INDIVIDUAL out of a group of thuggish american politicians. Yes, in an ideal world, our leaders should be an example in every sphere of life. But don't hold your breath - not here, and not for any country for that matter. It's just being naive.

JR 5/29/2009 10:55:49 AM
our government..( or should I say ..our collective of ANC criminals)cannot set a civilised example..period.

Fraud 5/29/2009 10:58:44 AM
dude, you seriously need counselling. Your hatred is unnatural. On a very serious note.

Jurie 5/29/2009 10:58:49 AM
"Stop referring to zuma being corrupt, he is clean." That might just be the biggest joke of the century. Wake up Mzi! JZ is the epitome of corruption, crime and stupidity! Revolutionary song? You idiot! This "struggle" you keep referring to is just being used as a scapegoat for all your moronic arguments.

Fraud 5/29/2009 10:58:50 AM
dude, you seriously need counselling. Your hatred is unnatural. On a very serious note.

Sinudeity 5/29/2009 10:59:21 AM
LIAR! Is that why JZ is suing zapiro for using this thing called "Free speech"? Leaders are walking the talk? JZ is innocent? So ignorant. JZ was never proven innocent. JZ on TWO occations admitted his guilt to corruption. But, your head is so far up the ANC rear, you cant see the daylight. Go back to your cave on mars, where all truth evades you.

bob123 5/29/2009 10:59:35 AM
why don't they belong here? Just 'cos they don't like crime and corruption? Why don't you move North and kill and steal and rape as much as you like and leave SA to folks who want a decent future for their kids. You have many countries to chose from for your relocation - and you don't even need a visa for Zim anymore.

Patrick Mkhwanazi 5/29/2009 11:00:45 AM
J Arthur Brown of Fidentia fleeced black widows of their deceased black husbands' pension monies. He must be an African too. Juan can I offer you a lift to Oranjia so that you can be with your racist kinds.

PAR 5/29/2009 11:01:09 AM
Good article but once again we state the obvious to those who care. How do we ever get this information to the powers that be. Thank goodness for Zille she is the only shining light in our new Zim style government. Check how scared the ANC are they will just not leave her alone to get on with the job because they know she will show them up.

PAR 5/29/2009 11:01:16 AM
Good article but once again we state the obvious to those who care. How do we ever get this information to the powers that be. Thank goodness for Zille she is the only shining light in our new Zim style government. Check how scared the ANC are they will just not leave her alone to get on with the job because they know she will show them up.

Msenti 5/29/2009 11:02:00 AM
Would you rather go to jail for a whole weekend for drunken driving and pay a R2000 admission of guilt fine on Monday or would you rather pay the traffic cop R200.And please don't tell me you don't drive after two beers or one double.

Suzie 5/29/2009 11:02:39 AM
The government is paid by tax payers so they should realise that they deliver a service. It is still beyond me that they think they can drive in black cars with the whole police force around them on highways and have priority above the people that pay there salaries.

bob123 5/29/2009 11:03:31 AM
So companies that buy the land, spend a fortune prospecting and drilling, build massive infrastructure costing substantial investment have no right to the oil? How do you figure that?

Outlaw 5/29/2009 11:04:24 AM
Wednesday evening, I was stopped by a traffic cop after I didn't stop at a stop sign. Okay with that. 5 seconds later a Police van came and didn't stop at the same Stop sign. No action was taken. Enough said.... Luckily all I got is a warning, perhaps I was saved by tha van. Double standards.

Sinudeity 5/29/2009 11:04:51 AM
The ANC! The president, most of the cabinet. Too many cases to even fit into this comment box. And the ANC supporters go on with their ears and eyes closed, deaf to the truth and the outside world. Calling the truth-seekers 'counter revolutionary'. Well, Im PROUD to be a counter-revolutionary. Im PROUD to stand up against the evils in our government. If telling the truth, is a crime, then I am an outlaw. The ANC no better than Nazi germany. Heil Zuma!

Henry 5/29/2009 11:05:16 AM
Zuma is mentioned because he is the PRIME example of corruption. But I don't expect you and your kind (ANC) to understand - not even going to try and convince you. I hope your people (ANC - before I'm labelled "racist") like sitting without water and shelter in the dirt... That's where you're gonna stay while corruption (Zuma) rules the country...

Juan 5/29/2009 11:05:23 AM
Uh, why do you point fingers to the states? It's AFRICAN leaders that sell african oil to foreign countries while THEIR OWN PEOPLE live in poverty. Carl Niehaus belongs to the *ANC* which is all for corruption, so it just makes SENSE! Go ahead.. support your government, stupid, obviously you'd like your leaders to be filthy rich and above the law while your children and generations after them will ALSO suffer the consequences!

Anon 5/29/2009 11:05:30 AM
Yes it is acceptable for politicians to be driven around in escorts, but when those escorts start shooting at other road users, driving them off the road and causing accidents then it is totally UNACCEPTABLE. When the alliance partners start with "we will destabilise the WC GOVERNMENT" and our president does not act (and I dont mean a slap in the wrist), then it is UNACCEPTABLE. What if your family or kids are in the next car that they shoot at and are killed, will it be ACCEPTABLE to you??

bob123 5/29/2009 11:05:55 AM
Well how long has JZ been in the ANC? How long was he deputy for? What did he achieve then? If the government isn't to blame for policing and law and order (and JZ being the head of governemnt has to take the responsibility) who is to blame then?

gotha 5/29/2009 11:06:18 AM
Fraudsters (get out of jail free card) sentenced to 15 years, serve 18 months,(reason high blood pressure) drunk judges who crash into fences, police chief drunk crashes his car(lucky no one gets killed)his docket etc get stolen from court. The list is endless and offcourse not to mention you are brain dead.

Joe Soap 5/29/2009 11:06:32 AM
You choose your leaders mate

Jas 5/29/2009 11:07:39 AM
Maybe you want to think, before you put your fingers to that keyboard. In the UK MP's including the leader of the opposition use public transport and CYCLE to work. It's completely unnecessary for most of our cabinet ministers to have an escort. Unless of course they're actually worried about being hijacked? Oh and JZ is a VERY poor example to the youth, given his track record with corruption charges etc.

sande 5/29/2009 11:08:03 AM
This one good article in a long time, you bob and all the morons who think like you are the very people who bring shame to this good country you are the very people who collude with corupt officials because you have money you can drive wreckless then bribe your way out. I won't be amazed if you one of those who partake in crime by buying stolen goods

SimonP 5/29/2009 11:08:35 AM
The article is about crime in SA, what has Enron got to do with it? You lost me on the jets and black led US government. Carl Niehaus is a south African is he not? What is criminal with foreign companies owning assets in Africa? I think you have lost the plot

garyh 5/29/2009 11:09:20 AM
It must be extremely tempting for public servants to be corrupt, seeing that those stealing only receive a slap on the wrist, whereas the man on the street would land up in court/jail. Corrupt SAPS and Metro bosses also set a fine example for their people as well. throw these F!@#$ers in jail and set an example to all. Take the criminals rights away, make them do hard labour, no vote, no tv, for heavens sake, rather look after the rights of the law abiding tax payers as in any sane society!

Rolls Royce 5/29/2009 11:09:22 AM
Nobody can ever forget Judge Hillary say "jz had a generally corrupt relationship with saik"....just live with it mate

Henry 5/29/2009 11:11:14 AM
"Stop referring to zuma being corrupt, he is clean" - I spilled coffee all over the table from laughing my ass off - best comment yet on a friday - you made my weekend!! As for your comments - you must be the dumbest "pee-pole" on this site! You need a good whipping boy! Maybe that will open your eyes

the_economist 5/29/2009 11:11:20 AM
this is the third letter in as many days where someone comes up with some bright solution that will never work

Juan 5/29/2009 11:12:08 AM
Ok, you're right. Zuma holds doctors degrees. He has never been suspected of corruption, neither does he sleep around. Our wonderful anc government has gotten rid of all the shacks in sa, and since they took over there has been no murder, rape and violent crime. We DID need submarines more than decent schools and education. Well 'Fraud' you can choose to believe this and live in your little dream world, or you can FACE REALITY. No use in attacking me!

Peekay 5/29/2009 11:13:46 AM
We are all acountable for some form of breaking the law at some stage in our lives. What really irks me as the way SA politicians are able to get away with it so easily. The rot starts from the top down, and in SA's case JZ is the most rotten apple, and you cannot argue that as he was never found not guilty.

Jurie 5/29/2009 11:15:39 AM
Well said!! Bravo Bravo. Good to see some people still have sense.

SimonP 5/29/2009 11:17:22 AM
JZ is clean? Case dropped on technicality, NPA still has strong case, judge stated Shaik had corrupt relationship with JZ. Not eactly squeaky clean. Please explain which of your brothers are not free and the relevance of a violence insighting song fixing it. As for accessibility to the gov by the public....dream on!

Juan 5/29/2009 11:17:46 AM
Well, if you raise your one middle finger, what do you use to type with? I bet your OTHER middle finger is stuck in your nose! bwahahaha!

Halfwise 5/29/2009 11:19:37 AM
ZUMA IS CLEAN WE ALL KNOW THAT EXCEPT FROM DA FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

john john 5/29/2009 11:19:48 AM
which cave where you hibernating. I suggest you crawl back into your cave.

kv 5/29/2009 11:20:47 AM
Last time i smiled at a cashier, she scowled at me and mumbled "Plastic?". And last time i let someone in in the traffic (when i had right of way), the lady rolled her eyes at me, gave me a dirty look and sped off. i am very skeptical and honestly my faith in human nature weakens every day. And i dont see how us, the little people, doing good deeds on a small level will influence politicians - they dont care what we do, they only care about wealth and power.What difference does our attitude make?

bob123 5/29/2009 11:21:25 AM
Yes, it is rather strange that the ANC will rather spend time and effort to drag Zille through the mud than actaully get on with making the other provinces a whole lot better. Seems they do not know how to make the provinces they do control better, so they seem to think making the WC worse is the way to go. Keep the status quo.

Mandla Mahlangu 5/29/2009 11:22:15 AM
NPA was wasting tax payers money not zuma

Mandla Mahlangu 5/29/2009 11:23:06 AM
Is thir right to do so

vin da vince 5/29/2009 11:23:36 AM
I now what kind of game are u playing. we know it very well. I dont understand why u keepon singing one song jz jz jz im sick and tied of u leave president alone or u want mk and youth leage to teach u lesson. leave us alone

jen 5/29/2009 11:23:48 AM
most of you will have heard about the British MP's expenses claims... Though at least those people have been forced to resign, and voters will not tolerate it. Just wait and see what happens in their next elections - I am sure there will be some interesting results.

jen 5/29/2009 11:24:32 AM
LOL, you had me there! :) yes, somehow its always the BM drivers.

SimonP 5/29/2009 11:24:45 AM
Please indicate where Juan showed hatred in his post. You seem to be confusing hatred with a statement of fact, very similar to those who use racism instead of disagreeing with the ANC.

Deon 5/29/2009 11:24:52 AM
I can on the odd occasion tollerate the ANC, but Idiots like Julius Malema make my blood boil!!He' a racketeering ganster, with the ego of a supestar, but the brains of a 2 year old. His RACIST remarks and incitement to violence is criminal!!!

Dilemma 5/29/2009 11:26:20 AM
One has to consider breaking the law to stay within the law - if that makes sense. I cannot get a booking, after 8 months trying, for a drivers test, but if I pay R400 I can "buy" a booking. As I won't drive without a licence, what are my options? The failing SA standards and systems, mainly through corruption, is a bitter pill to swallow.

Poloyatonki 5/29/2009 11:26:49 AM
YOU REALLY NEED HELP, JUST ON NEWS24 IF YOU CANT GET HELP!!!!!!!!

Kalakune 5/29/2009 11:27:48 AM
YOU THINK JUST LIKE ZILLE!!!

jen 5/29/2009 11:28:27 AM
Zapiro scrutinised and poked fun at other leaders too, including apartheid leaders. haha, seems its always a problem to the one who is being scrutinised, this time its JZ's turn. He has mocked Zille as well, though she hasnt sued him.

SimonP 5/29/2009 11:29:19 AM
Interesting post: The author can write about crime but how dare he bring JZ into it, ie the gov is untouchable. As for "we all know that Zille always do shit" who is "we all" cos it aint me.

cos 5/29/2009 11:29:55 AM
YOU are the idiot. Did YOU watch TV last week when mothers in the Northern Prov. waited 4 days to get milk to feed their basies. Why not breast milk? They are HIV positive! For 4 days-not food. They gave their babies watered-down pap & some eventually fed them. YES with HIV infected milk. Thank U Zuma, Thank U ANC Government! How proud U must feel now Mzi. Maybe not if it was your wife and new born baby!! SICK

Topdog 5/29/2009 11:30:06 AM
The fact that police escorts exist does not automatically imply that they can break the law as they wish. Maybe you should try and think further before placing your one-sided idiotic comments.

Ndumiso 5/29/2009 11:30:16 AM
were not brought up on an Island, they're a product of our society, a reflection of our society. Hence sum are good some are bad, period. Revolutions work better grassroots up, the same can work for morality. @Juan, where and how did the Western Royal families ammass their wealth. Marie Antoinette, Prince Charles' luv triangle, ring a bell?

SimonP 5/29/2009 11:31:28 AM
"How do we ever get this information to the powers that be" they have the info, they just choose to ignore it.

Topdog 5/29/2009 11:33:07 AM
Do you raise your middle finger to put it up your nose to try and change your mind. Don't get personal, comment on the article.

Cynical 5/29/2009 11:33:10 AM
Listen buddy there is no way on earth that S/Africans will make a "mass return" to abiding by the law. Why should they? If a high profile convicted fraudster like Sheikh could be released after 5 minutes in prison, with the blessing of the govt, then what incentive is there for anyone to abide by the law? By the way I'm typing this note on my laptop whilst driving along at 300km in a 60km zone! Ha ha ha ha ha...

samsam 5/29/2009 11:36:26 AM
I find it strange in this forum, because if you are political clued up some of your comments, are not posted, but for those who are political blind/puppets (Thembisile,Nthuwatuwa) and those RACIST(Juan,Karen,Glock etc)are most favoured IDIOTS. while the likes of Halfwise,Farmboy,& Poloyatonki its shame on us, where is freedom of speech, I regret the death of Hani in this country, we are far behind where we are suppose to be with democracy

Poloyatonki 5/29/2009 11:37:02 AM
I just wonder what did JZ do to you cos you are always on his back, why dont you ask Zille when will her play boys (Dan Plato) start working!!!!!!

Juan 5/29/2009 11:37:18 AM
People drink and drive as we don't have a DECENT public transport system! Why? Because YOUR government would rather spend OUR tax money on jets and 75mil parties and bmw's etc than SERVE ITS PEOPLE and your kind are too stupid to realise how badly you're being screwed over by the very same people you VOTED for! Yes. Evolution is slow indeed!

Karen 5/29/2009 11:41:15 AM
"In a place where there are no righteous people, BE a righteous person." "If you want to change the world, start with yourself."

jen 5/29/2009 11:43:11 AM
Shell have made a huge and horrible mess in Nigeria - polluting the environment and poisoning waterways

bob123 5/29/2009 11:46:15 AM
Nah, I don't buy stolen goods. I like my stuff shiny, new and unused. More than happy to pay top dollar. ha ha ha

Win 5/29/2009 11:46:30 AM
YOU'RE A CHOP!!!

bob123 5/29/2009 11:49:38 AM
Oh, and by the way, where did you get that I bribe anyone? Just a week ago I was n the queue to get my child a learner license appointment and the dude behind me said I could skip all the hassle and he could get me a full blown drivers for just R400.00. I told him to "go to hell", and my child will go through the normal procedure, stessful as it may be. See, I did my bit against corruption. Was it you who offered me the R400.00 license?

bob123 5/29/2009 11:50:37 AM
and lastly, I don't drive wreckless (whatever that is supposed to mean)

nada 5/29/2009 11:50:56 AM
Point of correction chief, Judge Hillary NEVER said there was a corrupt relationship between Shaick and Zuma. He openly denied it and went on to publish his entire speech on the m&g website. My point is proven once more: ppl don't research and think through your ideas instead of repeat what your oom said at the braai on saturday. And to Anon no, I did not say that police escorts are justified in shooting at motorists. Learn to read.

AJ 5/29/2009 11:52:13 AM
All of your comments are based on elevating black people and denigrating white people. How are you any difficult from other 'racists'? The irony is startling, the fact you do not even see it is all the more ridiculous.

jen 5/29/2009 11:52:40 AM
the reason that shell have got away with the mess they have made so far is that corrupt officials there have taken bribes to let it go

Sinudeity 5/29/2009 11:53:59 AM
But why then, do the ANC supporters insult US, when we try and point out the corruption of OUR government? We PATRIOTIC South Africans, want the rot and corruption ENDED. While the average ANC supporter, condemns the truth, and fights to keep the truth buried. Do we just turn a blind eye? Look at the UK, where almost ALL of the mp's have been found guilty of corruption. They are having EARLY elections, to replace these scum. We simply promote them. YOU promote them. Viva counter revolutionaries!

Zola 5/29/2009 11:56:02 AM
You and your likes are sick people in need of counselling. Seriously. One day you will die of hatred for black people. I hope you don't have a (black)domestic worker & gardener in your house; and that you didn't have a black nanny wiping your bottom and feeding you when you were young.You obviously do not believe that black people are human. I pity those black people who come in contact with you; that you give fake smiles.

bob123 5/29/2009 11:57:42 AM
seems folks in sunny SA have totally lost their sense of humour. why can't we laugh at ourselves anymore? A JOKE IS A JOKE IS A JOKE???? Did you hear the one about Paddy and Murphy? or van der Merwe . . . this used to be funny . . now suddenly it's hate speech. Geez!!!!

Jessy 5/29/2009 11:58:12 AM
All of you must stop defending jz. Just let him be. He will show you why he is you leader he started by using our money for our house. For himself. But don't worry in a few months, when your in your bed, hungry and cold you will know you made the mark for your leader

Nad 5/29/2009 11:58:46 AM
Zuma is clean, what are you guys on about. He stated in court that he took a shower?

Ndumiso 5/29/2009 12:03:47 PM
this is not about the ANC or Zille. It's about us as a people saying we've had it with crime, and actually doing something about it, instead of blog-shiting each other. How do we always manage to politicise non-political subjects??

Alicia 5/29/2009 12:05:47 PM
Thanks, I too have had a few wonderful laughs from the comments made this morning. What is absolutely incomprehensible though, is that these fools and idiots believe implicitly that Zuma has never been embroiled in crime! And the truth of the matter is, that he always has. Birds of a feather flock together....look at his friends. Can you not see what is before your very eyes, or do you purposely not read the truth.

Kalakune 5/29/2009 12:06:48 PM
So according to you Zuma is guilty till proven innocent!!!!!!!!!!11

cillas 5/29/2009 12:07:00 PM
politics again, insults again it is now soooo boring.Come on everybody take a chill pill(Pax 10 helps)it's weekend (ok nearly!)the sun is shining & the blue bulls are going to win the rugby tomorrow especially after their visit from JZ. keep warm everybody it will probably be colder than a who--s heart, but the beer & braai shud help. Lets leave the insults for a few hours.

samsam 5/29/2009 12:07:42 PM
I find it strange in this forum, because if you are political clued up some of your comments, are not posted, but for those who are political blind/puppets (Thembisile,Nthuwatuwa) and those RACIST(Juan,Karen,Glock etc)are most favoured IDIOTS. while the likes of Halfwise,Farmboy,& Poloyatonki its shame on us, where is freedom of speech, I regret the death of Hani in this country, we are far behind where we are suppose to be with democracy

bob123 5/29/2009 12:07:54 PM
a good whipping - ha ha ha

Kuifkop 5/29/2009 12:09:06 PM
It's the cops that DEMAND and we SUPPLY! Their leader is a crook, so they are crooks! Die appel val nie ver van die boom af nie

nigel 5/29/2009 12:10:13 PM
Morgan Freedman, I think he is a great actor, perfect example to us all, "One Random Act Of Kindness" thats where it all starts. Try this weekend to be a better person, its tough, I try & am not always successful, but try, if not for others, then for yourself, you might feel a bit more relaxed & calm.

Kuifkop 5/29/2009 12:11:30 PM
He who lifes by the gun, will die by the gun

Alicia 5/29/2009 12:13:35 PM
"The "Nazi" (substitute with ANC) Should not become a constable of the public opinion, but must DOMINATE IT! IT MUST NOT BECOME A SERVANT OF THE MASSES, BUT THEIR MASTER!" And so said ADOLF HITLER!!!! Chilling words, chilling thoughts.

Peekay 5/29/2009 12:15:49 PM
It's about time these fools got their head out of the sand and actually wake up to what is going on around them. Just read in the Mercury about policemen actually supplying arms to criminals! Well that ended nicely for one policeman involoved who was killed to be silenced! JZ get your house in order. U are turning this country into a criminal haven and you are the ringleader.

SimonP 5/29/2009 12:15:53 PM
are prime examples of why there is so much crime. They will go to any length to defend perpetrators as long as they are ANC. By excusing, inventing alibis and turning a blind eye they are condoning crime. Weird

CitizenX 5/29/2009 12:19:22 PM
ANC supporters did not vote with their eyes and ears closed. They voted for the ANC because they see them as the people whom gave them freedom in their own country. For them service delivery weights less than their hard fought rights.

Glock 22 c 5/29/2009 12:24:03 PM
Yes its JZ's fault the crime in SA Why? The anc is in charge for 15 years already round about the same time that the lawlessness started. Who is in charge of the ANC your dancing bafoon

Piet Theron 5/29/2009 12:25:20 PM
So MZI, tell me what soap is JZ using that makes him so clean. OMO? And how can you and your brothers still struggle after 15 years and that with Affirmative action. Is that because you don't have an electrolux mouth? Nothing sucks like an electrolux.

JohnyBlue 5/29/2009 12:29:27 PM
There are few certainties in life. One you can Ccount on is that everytime someone calls a black politician corrupt, above the law or incompetent, the first black guy to read this will shout at the top of his longs "RACIST". Come on! The story is getting a bit long in the tooth.

eddbru 5/29/2009 12:37:11 PM
...hatefull people.

Nature 5/29/2009 12:37:25 PM
Judge Hillary challenged this statement to anyone that "where in his judgement did he say, there was a corrupt relationship between Shaik and JZ" All the intellects, the Yes I knows, the media, even Thabo Mbeki I mean everybody went silent, it was never found. So u r lying, he never said that, its your own words.

Dandaal 5/29/2009 12:40:59 PM
can't wait to hear the song, who knows maybe we can record it, "Hitler youth song?" Ay you have energy dude, the youth song?

Rolls Royce 5/29/2009 12:42:17 PM
Bring your mk and YL,name the time and place buddy

JohnyBlue 5/29/2009 12:46:46 PM
I am a firm believer that the litaracy level of a country is reflected in the leaders the people choose. Maybe that is why the ANC could not bothered to improve on the education our children receive. Educated people = smarter voters = no ANC.

Gee 5/29/2009 12:50:39 PM
Dude really why does any mention of JZ always end up with references to the liberation struggle and the fact that JZ is an upstanding citizen. Protesting too much methinks

Boots 5/29/2009 1:04:42 PM
Talking about the examples we should set and also follow. We have a great leader in SA. He doesn't use condoms and are probably HIV positive already. So throw away those condoms containing worms and spread the virus. It's free, after all!!!

SM 5/29/2009 1:11:39 PM
Why should we leave the president alone. WE pay his salary, he has to serve us the people of SA. In the world I know, if you do not do your job you are fired. In this case section 89(1) of the Constitution has relevance. As for your pathetic threat of mk and ancyl, it is going to take a lot more to scare me, you actually need something substantial to be able to do that. mk and ancyl is like wind over a sewrage dam, stale and ineffective.

SimonP 5/29/2009 1:12:34 PM
Weird isnt it that people who have the ability to read and write refuse to acknowledge the truth, I guess they are gullible beyond belief. I actually believe that if Zuma himself walked up to these people and shot the guy next them they would invent an excuse and blindly support it. All hope lost

Anon 5/29/2009 1:21:51 PM
@Nada: "why politicians r driven in police escorts? cos it's globally accepted a safety measure to protect high profile ppl." The author stated "Why should politicians be driven around in police escorts that drive faster than the legal limit?" Its about the abuse of power and privelage and not the power or privelage in itself, please learn to write then if that is not what you meant!

Peekay 5/29/2009 1:34:49 PM
So please enlighten us where JZ got the millions to pay his lawyers????? US THE FLIPPEN TAX PAYERS YOU RETARD...

Faqu 5/29/2009 1:36:04 PM
You made you bed, now sleep it in....good luck to all you JZ/ANC supporters,.... you gonna need it....dont worry we wont say "I told you so!" Africa is never ever going to learn...sad....

Peekay 5/29/2009 1:36:49 PM
U say you've had it with crime, and what exactly are you doing about it? U keep on voting in the ANC. So don't say you've had it with crime, you must enjoy the crime and non-service delivery as you keep on voting the ANC into power.

Poloyatonki 5/29/2009 1:44:56 PM
look at Zille and her boyfriends...........

Adrian 5/29/2009 1:46:00 PM
before our people will stop voting along party and colour lines. I respect all our struggle hero's, but let face it, running around with a gun somewhere, should earn you a medal, not a ministry. Let's hope the next generation will be truely liberated and think about what's best for the country before making their cross.

Fraud 5/29/2009 1:46:42 PM
Read JohnCarlos's comment...Every day, Juan states as a 'fact' that africans are animalistic and don't (and will never) have 'human' qualities. I see this as hatred, you see it as stating facts. Now, as JohnCarlos suggested, read some history books on how Europeans behaved compared to Africans during the Dark Ages...

Fraud 5/29/2009 1:46:44 PM
Read JohnCarlos's comment...Every day, Juan states as a 'fact' that africans are animalistic and don't (and will never) have 'human' qualities. I see this as hatred, you see it as stating facts. Now, as JohnCarlos suggested, read some history books on how Europeans behaved compared to Africans during the Dark Ages...

samsam 5/29/2009 1:56:01 PM
I find it strange in this forum, because if you are political clued up some of your comments, are not posted, but for those who are political blind/puppets (Thembisile,Nthuwatuwa) and those RACIST(Juan,Karen,Glock etc)are most favoured IDIOTS. while the likes of Halfwise,Farmboy,& Poloyatonki its shame on us, where is freedom of speech, I regret the death of Hani in this country, we are far behind where we are suppose to be with democracy

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