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Speed kills

by Jacques
2009-07-14 10:00

During long weekends and over the Christmas period, news bulletins include statistics on road accident fatalities. An overview is given on vehicles per hour on the various national routes as well as the direct costs of these accidents.

Most accidents are attributed to driving under the influence, speeding and pedestrians. Essentially nothing is done to prevent these accidents. There is a bit of visible policing, some signage along the roads and the "arrive alive" campaign.

Taking into consideration that the number of fatalities increased from 11 201 in 2001 to 14 057 in 2008, is it not time to investigate alternative methods to reduce the number of fatalities?

Driving on South African roads can be stressful experience. Motorists have to content with the state of the roads, road rage, corrupt officials and road users who have a blatant disregard for the rule of law. Law abiding motorists are forced to give way to vehicles travelling at speeds well in excess of the legal limit, even though they are travelling at the legal limit themselves.

Flashing lights, dangerous following distances, hooters and the occasional finger are the weapons used to intimidate other motorists. Should motorists be "forced" to be complicit to these bullies of the road? Is there a good enough reason to risk not only your own life, but also those of other road users by speeding excessively? The answer to both these questions is a resounding no!

Technology has advanced sufficiently to eliminate speeding and drunk driving altogether. New vehicle speeds should be limited to 120km/h, breathalysers should be fitted and "smarter" GPS technology should be used to automatically adjust maximum speeds where the speed limit is less than 120km/h.

GPS can also be used to warn motorists of approaching vehicles (blind rises and intersections). A simple calculation can be done by onboard computers to determine whether it is safe to overtake a slow moving vehicle. Older vehicles will eventually be phased out - after a massive boom in the sales of second hand vehicles - and our roads will be safer.

Only emergency vehicles and doctors (after applying for a permit and after having done and advanced driving course) should be allowed to travel at speeds greater than the legal limit.

Penalties for speeding, driving under the influence and tampering with the speed limit control mechanism should include compulsory jail time, community service, revoked drivers licences and adjustments to the speed limit control mechanism to allow the transgressor to travel at 20% below the allowable legal limit only.

The benefits of introducing these measures are enormous. The impact of reduced fuel consumption on the environment alone is worth its weight in gold.

Its time to get rid of the speed demons that put all our lives at risk.

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lys 7/14/2009 10:14:36 AM
get lost you loser. you the kind of person that drives at 60km/h in the fast lane and makes the rest of us late. We don't want you on our roads.

genie in a bottle 7/14/2009 10:17:46 AM
i am so glad you worked all of this out. We will be accident free come the next vacation rush.

colin 7/14/2009 10:25:20 AM
Why do the motor manufacturers design vehicles with a maximum speed of 200km/h or more if it is illegal to travel at that speed - the motor manufactures are also well aware that South African road users are some of the most reckless in the world them why give them the option and ability to kill other road users - 120km/h is more than sufficient and I will support to limit all new vehicles to have a maximum speed of 120km/h - how stupid can you be by drinking and driving you put other peoples lives at risk and I believe any person who drinks and drives should be charged with attempted murder.

IandI 7/14/2009 10:28:36 AM
You forgot one group that makes the law and then break it with inpunity everyday in full view of us ordinary motorists. Yes, the blue light brigade transporting our esteemed politicians who are too important to obey the rules THEY passed in parliament.Animal farm!

Jaco 7/14/2009 10:28:39 AM
I will tell you what gets me going, people that hold their todlers/Kids on their laps on the front seat, and they think there is nothing wrong with this, do they not realise that these kids act as an airbag during a accident not even toi speak if the car has airbags those are dead for sure if that thing comes out, and to use the argument if you confront them of I drive carefully, Yeah right then you would not have your kids on a lap and you might drive safe but the guy approaching you intoxicated might not. People dont think and when they do their kids are dead or mamed. And lastly the reason why you wera a seatbelt in a car with an airbag is not to assist when the airbag deploys but to keep you safe when that bag comes out at 300Km/H

Realist 7/14/2009 10:29:26 AM
I worked for a company that governed all the vehicles to 120km/h and it actually didn't do a thing to the accident rate. People will still speed in 60 and 80km/h zones and these are the places where the majority of accidents occur. The only way to prevent or decrease the number of accidents is to change the driving behaviour of motorists. Something that is incredibly difficult to do, as there seems to be very little consistency in the way law enforcement officials do their jobs. Ultimately the road users need to know that they will be punished for offences and punished severely, this is the only way to change peoples mentality towards driving. Its a big "ask" but until South Africans start respecting the law, nothing is going to change. Speed is only a small factor in the cause of accidents, alcohol, unroadworthy vehicles, unlicenced drivers, lack of driving knowledge are but a few more and these cause more fatalities than speeding alone.

turbo_superboss 7/14/2009 10:31:49 AM
you obviously think that a solution you thought up while scratching yourself this morning is actually going to be taken seriously?

d 7/14/2009 10:34:00 AM
Totally disagree. The number of fatalaties has gone up? sure, and how many more cars were on the road? Driving under the influence, speeding and pedestrians are NOT the mains causes. Drunk pedestrians is the only "main" cause, the second biggest cause being unroadworthy busses and mini taxis! If the road is in good shape, there is good visability and its dry, i see no reason why i cant drive faster in the fast lane. Many sections of the autobahn have no speed limits and please tell me what the death rate is there hmmm?

SimonP 7/14/2009 10:34:03 AM
There is a much simpler method. If the traffic cops spent more time doing their job rather than soliciting bribes perhaps the roads would be a safer place.

samsam 7/14/2009 10:35:54 AM
The other weekend I was driving to my place after some few drinks, what was surprising is that the JMPD stop me for driving slowly, I told them clearly that when I have been drinking my speed is 80 km/h from there he was moaning and I told him that there is nothing I cant do Im safe with 80, what is bad is for a person driving 120 or more km/h knowing very well is from nightclub, you cant even tell what is he rushing at home, even driving 120 from-to home- work it doesnt make sense, what are you rushing at home or why not wake up early, does it make sense to wakeup to die on the road early morning. I only drive 120 when doing interprovincial trips I would rather die doing interprov trips

Groenie 7/14/2009 10:40:11 AM
I was in an accident yesterday, not because anyone was speeding, but because the other person, and I quote "wasn't paying attention". I believe speeding should be addressed, but even hitting a pedestrain at 40 is fatal. Rather you should really force the basic road laws on our road. They should stop handing fines out like candy (because it is clearly not working) and rather give people stern warnings and teach them what they are doing wrong, because I think very few people actually know what the laws (and etiquette) are.

AC 7/14/2009 10:40:33 AM
Speed does not kill. It is the IDIOT behind the wheel that kills. I drive the N1 daily, and trust me, you ain't seen nothing yet. They have no regard for anybody's safety. And the cops, oh well, that is an entirely different topic altogether. It is a miracle that not more people are killed on our roads.

PAR 7/14/2009 10:41:42 AM
Well said - now can you forward this to someone who will actually do something about it. We warn foreign visitors about crime but no one tells them that South Africans drive like selfish pigs and you are actually more likely to lose your life on the road. Normal people are going to expect that you stop at red robots and do no drive down the wrong side of the road facing oncoming traffic etc.

Rurapente 7/14/2009 10:42:51 AM
Maybe when they stop focusing on the "real" danger of *shock* no seatbelt in a 60 zone and stop trying to milk the consumers for money - then they will focus on better speed management.

Unfortunately greed is the driving force at the moment, not protection of life nor moral values.

Wisdom 7/14/2009 10:43:28 AM
Skipping red lights, arrogant drivers kills as well

rokovich 7/14/2009 10:44:32 AM
When i read your article i understand why the likes of you will never be presidents, alcohol brings a large portion of revenue for the government every year so implementation will bring down the revenue, with this new technology you can buy an old 318i model 1995 and put in stuff that the new 320i 2009 model has, yes on the outside it will look old but in the inside you have all the luxury of the new car plus without the irritating seatbealt noise and all this disturbing tools, basically whatever you try to do we will speed, drive , flash you lights if you are driving 130km/h in a 120km/h because the set limit for such a place is 180km/h. we will rule the roads because we can, and yes together we can. by the way go for expert driving clases to cope in our beloved roads

jeremy 7/14/2009 10:46:09 AM
You're living in cloud-cuckoo land. The measures you speak of may be desirable to a certain extent - but they're way in the future. Rather get back to basics....good, fair policing, a drivers test appropriate to today's road conditions and roads that are well-maintained. By the way, any speed kills whether it's 80, 100 or 120. It's not the killer in itself...it's more the way the car is driven and maintained. The 120 limit came into effect well over 30 years ago. Since then, cars have become way safer, faster and more reliable. So stop all this artificial nonsense about "speed kills" and focus on the idiot behind the wheel.

morena 7/14/2009 10:48:47 AM
great article the only fault you made was to say (emergency vehicles and doctors should travelle at high speeds) hell i'm a father and thats a good enough reason for me to to be allowed to travell at high speed to get to my kid if needs be

Paul 7/14/2009 10:50:07 AM
I agree we have a huge problem, but enforcing laws thru technology on motorists cars is not the solution. Rather better law enforcement, better education from a young age, better values instilled in children by parents.
What are you going to do if you have a medical emergency, let's says your child is sick, and you are not able to drive to a hospital as fast as you can?

Franc 7/14/2009 10:54:56 AM
Good article, however your idea about GPS'es is flawed. A GPS is only a receiving device, not a transmitting device. The satellites do not know where a single GPS device on earth is. Radar-fitted vehicles maybe but not GPS!

Win 7/14/2009 11:03:23 AM
@Jaco. I agree 100% but the difference with me is I feel for the kid when he goes through the window but I feel Fokall for the parents and their bleeding hearts saying "Oh my baby, why didn't I put him in the back seat..." scenario. I feel bricks for them. As for BMW and Merc drivers not indicating and speeding, I happily sit in the fast lane at 120 when they come up behind me at a high speed and they flash their lights because THEY have to get past! I just park off and wait for them to go around me and nothing pisses them off even more than a nice smile and a wave from me!

Ellie 7/14/2009 11:03:50 AM
It high time people went to jail for Motor Calpable Homiside and breaking the law for speeding. Ask me, I lost a 20 year old daughter through this and 16 months later he is still walking around with no hassles in the world....

Action 7/14/2009 11:08:28 AM
if car manufacturers are forced to limit the speed to 120km/h, then weapon manufacturers should be forced to make plastic bullets that cannot kill.

TB 7/14/2009 11:09:30 AM
@Samsam: Good grief are you drunk all the time? Do you not know that driving under the influence of alcohol is a criminal offence? At any speed!

k_m 7/14/2009 11:09:32 AM
The problem is a learner driver will learn with an entry level vehicle. When s/he passes their driver's licence test suddenly they are driving with these SUV and powerful vehicles which they speed and cannot control.

Russel 7/14/2009 11:15:08 AM
I agree that the average motorist should not be put at risk by those who drive recklessly but this is a bit of a knee jerk reaction. I have managed to save my life on more than one occasion by putting my foot down in a crisis. (I’d be haunting you instead if a speed governor had kicked in. ?) The best way to bring about law and order is not through ever increasing penalties and sanctions, which work even less well when they aren’t properly enforced, but rather to have appropriate penalties for wrong doers, rewards for those who stick to the rules and rules that are evenly enforced and make sense. Right now a person living on their own can’t even have one drink at a party if they don’t have a friend to give them a lift and we have cops trapping in the middle of the Karoo where it is safer to go faster all while there is no enforcement at all on vehicles doing 40km/h on a national freeway (which is also illegal by the way!). We should rather get the system right instead of curtailing peoples freedom.

Anonymous 7/14/2009 11:16:14 AM
I agree with Jeremy (10:46). On Sunday I came back from Newcastle to JHB via Balfour. There was this idiot who totally disregarded solid lines, blinds curves or blind heights - his only "requirement" was no cars from the front. That gave him the "right" to overtake, regardless of whatever rule applied!The funny thing was he did not even drive fast as I was coasting along at 110 - 115 km/h and could see him for quite number of km's doing the above repeatedly. People do not stick to the rules of the road, as simple as that.

Poloyatonki 7/14/2009 11:17:44 AM
@simonP - You are a real pest.... Why don’t you give us suggestions?

Lewis 7/14/2009 11:20:26 AM
And lys we dont want an arrogant little twat like yourself on this here blog.

SimonP 7/14/2009 11:28:05 AM
@samsam, You told the police you were under the influence of alcohol, I assume you have a court appearance soon.

@ samsam 7/14/2009 11:33:46 AM
I agree with you my brother. 15 percent of accidents are caused by drivers under the influence. the other 85% are caused by sober drivers. So, shall all the sober drivers please get off the roads to reduce 85% of accidents!!!! Moron!!!

colin 7/14/2009 11:34:32 AM
@Action what a stupid analogy guns are made to kill - motor vehicles are made to transport people from point A to point B - you cannot compare the 2.

Anon1 7/14/2009 11:38:26 AM
Speed in itself does not kill. Its more to do with overloaded, unroadworthy and unmaintained vehicles and couple that with reckless / negligent driving / drunk pedestrians, then you have the reason for most accidents. Take as an example, the Autobaan in Germany where there is no speed limit, practically no accidents happen there. The difference is that people drive in the left lane and only pass on the right. Driving slowly makes people tired and complacent and that causes accidents. Drive on a national road at 120km in a new model car and it feels as if you are a snail, older cars I understand, but new technology makes it safer with ABS, ESP, etc. Stopping distances, handling, etc is so much better in a new car that pre 2000 models, yet the same speed limit?

HLF 7/14/2009 11:38:38 AM
It simply boils down to sticking to the rules of the road, respect for the law and respect for one another. Rules are rules but some people seem to think they are better than every one else and are a law upto themselves. As long as we have these arrogant bastards on the road there will be accidents due to what ever reason (speed, driving under the influence, chatting on the phone etc).

Jaco Wium 7/14/2009 11:41:55 AM
When reading these aggressive comments to a thought-provoking article, it becomes clear as to why South African roads would never be a safe nor pleasant environment. If I was king of the world, I would not allow anyone any driver licences before they haven't successfully completed any advanced driving courses - or at the very least, a defensive driving course. Simple as that.

fedup 7/14/2009 11:43:25 AM
JACQUES, STOP DREAMING and cut down on watching sci-fi channel...nxa and if you have some flashing behind you get out the fast lane idiot and trot along in the slow lane.

Andrew Kemm 7/14/2009 11:43:25 AM
GPS is too expensive. Points system per lisence. 12 points for private driver and 10 points for public transport. Deduct points for breaking rules of the road and a stiff fine. Once points are gone need to go for assesment, on passing you are giving half your points back, once these are gone you lose your license and you have to reapply say after 12 months. Still stiff fines and jail time/ community service is needed.

quintin bush 7/14/2009 11:43:29 AM
why they do not limit the max speed on all car as we cannot travel fast then 120 in sa so if all cars are limited to 130 max then we will stop these guys that think they can drive 200km/h

Sarah 7/14/2009 11:44:28 AM
In New Zealand they have quite a clever system. The have a camera at the start and end of each town. They record your leaving time & arrival time at your next check point, and if you excede an AVERAGE speed limit, you get a fine. The "average" they use is carefully calculated by driving the course at a reasonable speed. I don't mind people speeding and killing themselves, but I do mind when they take out innocent bystanders...

Budda 7/14/2009 11:45:14 AM
@Win: If it bugs you so much that you want to cause an accident why dont you become a JMPD and do some good. Did you ever once consider that it might be a surgeon on call and its an emergency. I remember a heart surgeon was called out and on his way a person driving infront of him slammed his brakes to be nasty (as the surgeon flashed him), then as the surgeon tried getting around the guy starting swerving as well, after all this fustration the surgeon got to the hospital and it was all too late for the patient and surgeon. People should stop saying bmw, mercedes, etc. If people have a problem then do something constructive dont add to the problem.

David 7/14/2009 11:48:07 AM
Germany has the Autobahn where in some places there is no speed limit. The death toll there is a fraction of what it is in SA. The difference? Roadworthy checks every 2 years and driver tests every 5 years. The drivers are also well trained penalties are harsh.

Cynical@lys 7/14/2009 11:48:21 AM
"you the kind of person that drives at 60km/h in the fast lane and makes the rest of us late."

And it is thanks to the mentality of tossers like yourself that our roads are full of carnage.

fedup 7/14/2009 11:49:53 AM
HAHAHA SAMSAM you're a LEGEND!!!! haha"driving home after a few drinks at 80km/h" hahaha CLASSIC!!

blah 7/14/2009 11:49:55 AM
Speed doesn't kill, stupid does. I have seen people who are dangerous motorists regardless of how slow they are moving.

HC 7/14/2009 11:54:00 AM
It is time now to shift the blame for accidents from the measurable (speed and blood alcohol levels) to the obvious. Traffic officers enjoy sitting in the shade of a tree with their speed traps, while other offences or road hazards are not addressed. On the so-called road of death (Laingsburg - Beaufort West) you can drive any time and find debris, especially remnants of tyres, on the road surface. Most of these pieces of rubber originate from big trucks and are often quite big, forcing traffic to take evasive action.

Futhermore, on all the main routes, especially the N1, trucks are driving in long convoys with little space in between each other. This results in motorists being forced to overtake these long "trains" at high speeds with oncoming traffic often not visible in a distant dip in the road. Taking in mind the geography of the Karoo, the flats are so vast that it is hard to even observe these dips in time, especially in hot conditions.

samsam @TB 7/14/2009 12:04:49 PM
Boet I 've got money, every weekend, dont worry you will join us at newscafe next time

fedup 7/14/2009 12:06:28 PM
@ Sarah: 10 points for Newzealand, hooray!!

@jeremy & others 7/14/2009 12:10:50 PM
don't you people read ????? No vehicle is crash tested over 60kilometres per hour. so all your safety measures etc. mean what exactly at 120 or more???? PLEASE could someone tell me then why Aus is so law abiding and the people who break the law are the outcasts, not the ones who actually do like here? Why do we justify why we SHOULD be able to break the law??? this is ridiculous.

Jester 7/14/2009 12:14:23 PM
This post just shows all the different mentalities on the road, so with this in mind and to please everyone, people drive as you please and if you make it home safely consider yourself lucky. After all this is SA, and you are not safe anywhere : HAHA

ron 7/14/2009 12:15:22 PM
Speed does not kill - it is the d##s behind the wheel of the car. Drunk, incompetent, couldn't give a damn, inconsiderate,arrogant and impatient are the real reasons for accidents and fatalities - coupled with these and speed we have a problem, but not speed on it's own. How many drivers simply run stop streets, let alone red robots as though the stop sign does not even exist. They may have been travelling at 60km/h (the speed limit) but endangered the lives of others through their lawless actions. Where is law enforcement for this - oh yes hidng along the N1 to capture those exceeding 120km/h - no one can see them so how does this slow down the traffic?

Roy Greig 7/14/2009 12:18:17 PM
I disagree with the statement that ‘speed kills’. At what speed do you die? There is certainly a need for some better law enforcement. If all agree that if everyone was doing exactly what was expected of them there would be no ‘accidents’ only negligence, then try cameras recording the vehicle movement and speed registering on a removable hard disk drive fitted to all vehicles. If am ‘accident’ occurs review the HDDs and whoever is at fault pays all the damages. This will help with your insurance premiums. Any story about lost, broken or whatever recording system invokes an automatic guilty sentence.

KOBUS 7/14/2009 12:22:33 PM
Limit cars to 120km/h and watch the accidents happen. It is much more dangerous to try and brake out of a dangerous situation on the road than it is to accelerate. It's little useless-engine cars that cause accidents because they can't accelerate when doing 120km/h in 5th gear, which is what you need to be able to do when you see a dangerous situation coming up. Power (up to a certain extent, of course) is a safety feature, not just for fun. I will never buy an underpowered car, simply because of this, not because I want to race robot to robot or cruise at 200km/h on the highway.

Autobahn 7/14/2009 12:24:47 PM
I have an even better idea: why not implant chips directly into people's heads which would allow the government to control everyone? No speeding, no smoking, no eating fatty foods, no alcohol, no music piracy, no free will. We'll all be happy little puppet citizens doing exactly what we're told... all for the common good. That'll be great!

KOBUS 7/14/2009 12:25:47 PM
LOL, samsam seems like he is still under the influence. What he also doesn't realise is that it is dangerous to drive (much) slower than the flow of traffic, especially on roads that don't have separated lanes. It forces other drivers to slow down suddenly, which some may not do in time, and also forces them to overtake you, which is a dangerous thing to do at all times. LOW SPEED KILLS!

sayitlikeitis 7/14/2009 12:32:56 PM
I find it hard to believe that you have never broken the speed limit or anyone commenting here. Bunch of hypocrites.

samsam @KOBUS 7/14/2009 12:43:26 PM
what is much slower, if the speed limit is between 80-120 and you drive 80 on two lane drive on slow lane/left is that still an issue. The person who will die is you who is driving fast

JustinS 7/14/2009 12:44:05 PM
I agree 100% with you Jacques & lys what a mature comment, NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dale 7/14/2009 12:46:36 PM
If number of fatalities increased from 11 201 in 2001 to 14 057 in 2008, I'd say that was a helluva improvement! Work out how many more cars were actually on the road in 2008 than in 2001 & you'll see fatality per car ratio is much better.
As for blaming speed ... every time you fly, you do 8-10 times the speed you do in the car ... but you dont die, do you? So, the whole "Speed Kills" campaign is a load of BS. What kills you is how fast you stop, & hitting a 10 ton truck travelling at 40km/h while you are travelling at 100km/h (well under the speed limit) will kill you quickly.
Another factor people overlook with the road death stats is that invariably there are a good few 'taxi' related accidents in which 20-30 people are killed in a single incident (& that's not counting the injured).
Speed is a poor excuse, there are other factors that are much more dangerous!

Jim 7/14/2009 12:46:58 PM
@Win, I see a lot of total idiots like you on the road everyday. The highway code specifically tells you to make way for faster vehicles. It is not for you or I to decide whether the other person has a valid reason for exceeding the speed limit. Generally I obey the speed limit and I do not drink and drive. If you want to be a pedantic hedgehog sell you car and walk to work.

Kyle 7/14/2009 12:47:43 PM
Why not just wrap everyone in cotton wool? Then everyone will be safer! Crap article, rather search the new traffic points system, that is something new to combat dangerous driving. Will it work? I don't know, but it could be a step in the right direction.

piet 7/14/2009 12:48:45 PM
One should first do advanced driving course before you can apply to do drivers test. And this should be compulsory. Speed is not the killing factor - it is the idiot driving 60km/h in a 120 zone and then moving into your lane. And the other factor is pedestrians on national roads. No pedestrians are allowed on national roads.

Dangerman 7/14/2009 12:49:45 PM
Listen up all you stupid/ignorant people with all the negative comments about this article. It doesnt matter how fast a car is designed to be able to be driven, the crux of the matter is that most non-law abiding drivers have a total lack of respect for themselves, the law and fellow road users. Catch these speeding/reckless idiots and make a public example of them to others. Maybe then this nonsense will stop.

Philemon Matswayo 7/14/2009 12:51:30 PM
I agree speed kills but sometimes it r better to speed, because i rather hit crocodile at 120 kilometers and die fast than hit it at 60 kilometeres and die not so fast. Remember you called the crocodile and it will be in your way.

@budda 7/14/2009 12:55:13 PM
I'm actually left wondering if the surgeon used his hazard lights to indicate an emergency. There are way too many tossers on the road flashing their lights and speeding for the rest of us to figure out who the actual surgeon is.

Bob 7/14/2009 12:57:26 PM
Got stuck behind some idiot driving 30km/h BELOW the speed limit this morning, on a single lane road. They were in a car capable of the speed limit, and I unfortunately never got a safe overtaking opportunity. This sort of driving is as bad as going over the speed limit. I have gone over the limit, and paid the price. Reckless driving should also be looked at, not only speeding.

Clintonv 7/14/2009 12:58:54 PM
Its people like you who cause accidents. Its pointless targeting the faster cars when its the slow and un-roadworthy ones causing the carnage. Make people do advanced driving, we can learn from the Germans. Take a look at the driver mentality, just watch Taxi's and delivery vehicles. Metro turns a blind eye, and only ticket for cellphones and seat belts. Try call the BAD DRIVING hotline, nothing happens to these idiots

irritated 7/14/2009 1:02:25 PM
Its funny how people who complain about "pigs" in the fast lane also call these "pigs" selfish. Lets see. I like to drive the speed limit. My car's speedometer might show a speed of 130km/h when I could only be driving 120-125km/h. If I am in the right lane, I am fully entitled (by law) to overtake you. It is ILLEGAL to pass on the left. So if you think you are justified in driving "your" speed, and I may not pass you on the left...please tell me who is being selfish? There are traffic officials for a reason. If you feel someone is being reckless, call the police...don't take matters into your own hands by irritating the other driver. Note that I have never received a speeding fine, and I ALWAYS drive 10km/h faster than the speed limit according to my speedometer.

Jan 7/14/2009 1:02:28 PM
Its not speed that kills its bad drivers. Obviously the faster a bad driver drives the bigger danger he/she is to everyone!

Me 7/14/2009 1:03:27 PM
How about looking at the vast amount of unlicensed drivers on the road, or the amount of unroadworthy vehicles. Your comment about modern cars and reducing speed, could be viewed in the exact opposite. More modern cars can travel safer at higher speeds, so why not have certain areas increase the speed limits?
Our problem is poor driving. look at a country like Germany where they have a mix of very high speed and low speed options. The majority of deaths on their roads are not in the high speed areas but the low speed areas.

Ben 7/14/2009 1:05:59 PM
It comes down to respect for others and for the law as many above have said. If you are speeding, you are breaking the law - it is as simple as that. People need a change in mindset - in SA, there is a general feeling of "I want everything for myself, and to hell with everyone else". This is what is happening on the roads as well. All the safety gadgets in your fancy car do not make you immune to the laws of physics. Being late for a meeting is not an emergency - if you are important enough, they will wait.

Eles 7/14/2009 1:08:04 PM
I travel the highway on a daily basis. I drive at about 130 I ignore those cars zooming in behind me I will not move out of the fast lane and get stuck behind a truck so they can get all of one metre if not less in front of me. It is not just speed that kills the idiot driving 80 km in the middle lane is also driving dangerously - move over to the left lane. Every day I notice cars zooming in and out without bothering to indicate or put their lights on when dark etc. Those people who cut in front of you only to drive less than 120 are most irritating these same people will give everyone a gap whilst that is a nice thing to do it is unnecessary and seriously peeves off the people behind you. If all people stayed in the same lanes until having to change lanes we would all get to our destinations quicker with less stress! My worse irritation is people flinging out their cigarette butts - use your ashtray you are disgusting!

Francois Brill 7/14/2009 1:08:34 PM
Speed may kill - but unroadworthy cars kill a LOT more. get THEM off the road!

Accident victim 7/14/2009 1:09:19 PM
Speed doesn't kill - stupidity does, of which there is an abundance on South African roads. The 3 months I spent recuperating from a hit and run is proof of that.

Martin 7/14/2009 1:11:19 PM
Unfortunately, South Africans have been brainwashed into believing this "Speed kills" crap and idiots like Jacques simply repeat it like some kind of mantra. Speed does not kill! It's the stupidity of motorists that kills. People for some reason tend to think that hitting a solid object at 120km/h is somehow worse than hitting at at 80km/h - but the general effect is pretty much the same. It's the lack of driver training that in this country that kills. What does the stupid K53 method actually teach people about controlling a car in a dangerous situation, defensive driving, bad-weather driving? Nothing at all. So, that's the first problem. Unfortunately, we also have to deal with ego-driven morons (see some of the comments), who somehow have to make up for their shortcomings by interfering with others on the road. For example, me driving my BMW in the fast lane, at 160km/h, is not a problem. It's the idiot who takes it upon himself not to get out of my way that is causing the dangerous situation. What business is it of yours how fast I drive? You are not a traffic cop, so why force me to comply to the speed limit? It's not you problem, so move over if you don't want to drive that fast and I will take responsibility for my actions, but don't try to get clever with me. I don't get what these morons think they are proving by holding up faster cars - don't you muppets realise the danger you are actually causing? What short-dick man syndrome is it that doesn't allow some people to let faster cars through? I don't hestitate to let faster cars by - I have nothing to gain from holding them up and the sooner they go past the better, out of my space and out of my life. So what's the problem? Please grow up, idiots. Yes, I know what the legal speed limit is and I know that the speed limit is the same in all lanes, but it simply comes down to whether you are just an asshole or not.

ScooteR6 7/14/2009 1:13:40 PM
LOL at all the comments. You guys should all bike your cars and enjoy riding in Gauteng - even to work and back. I think our main problem is probably half the population who legally purchased their licenses. Speed doesn't kill - it's the sudden stop that gets you.

Willie 7/14/2009 1:21:29 PM
It is not the speed that kills, but rather the abrupt stop when you hit something. It is amazing to see so many parents with children on their laps, standing on the front seats and even between the seats on the road. That is the reason I am no longer a paramedic, as I am tired of scraping these children off of the tarmac when they have gone through the windscreen.

How can the Traffic Departments enforce the law, when they do not even obey the law themselves, as they drive through red robots, never stop at stop streets and speed like they are always in an emergency. Another thing that I find crazy, is last night when I stopped at a 4 way stop some idiot had the gall to actually flash his lights and blow his hooter at me. He then went past me on the wrong side of the road and showed me signs and swore at me, because I dared to stop at a stop street. This lawlessness needs to be addressed urgently.

FaquAll 7/14/2009 1:21:45 PM
All road vehicles should have a standard max limit of 120km.....police vehicles and such should have 140km/h .....problem solved......don't make cars that can go fast and then people won't go fast! Plain and simple.

Reality_Bites 7/14/2009 1:21:56 PM
Do you know why there is a lower rate of fatalities on the Autobahn? SIMPLE: PEOPLE HAVE RESPECT FOR THE LAW AND FELLOW ROAD USERS! In this country far too many people think the law does not apply to them. You drive a big car- you feel you have the right to harass people ahead or you... NO, try that in Germany and you will face 5 years in jail and your license confiscated for such intimidating gestures! Driving with kids not strapped it... guess what your license gets taken away and you GET A HUGE Fine! Get caught speeding or driving under the influence- the authorities will see just how full that bank account is and don't forget you will loose your license! The law needs to be changed and people need to be hit where it hurts the most! Through huge fines and penalties authorities in Germany and other part of Europe have managed to adjust the behaviour enough for it to make a difference. Apart from that it is not easy to get a license and various requirements (far stricter than SA have to be met).

Andrew 7/14/2009 1:23:41 PM
I am so sick and tired of people who want us to live in a nanny state where every aspect of your behaviour is governed and controlled. We need less control not more, we need to create a culture of personal responsibility and more freedom not less. This desire for safety at all costs is wrong. It sanitizes life, destroys human spirit and we are left with an empty existence where there is no soul. This is why the old western movies were so popular. There is adventure, there is freedom, there is danger, there is life.

I don't want to live in a place where someone is always looking over my shoulder the whole time, restricting me all the time. I am of course perfectly happy to live with the consequences of my actions and I don't wish to drive like a hooligan, swear at people on the roads, drive right behind them flashing my lights or anything like that, but i'd rather that happen to me than what this article proposes.

ned 7/14/2009 1:27:36 PM
Can someone PLEASE get the guide lines painted on ALL OUR ROADS in every little dorp and city. I have seen two lots of cars side swipe BECAUSE they do not know where the heck they are supposed to be driving...VERY DANGEROUS.

shaun @sayitlikeitis 7/14/2009 1:28:51 PM
well said, i'll bet R100 that 99.9999% of them have either a parking fine or speeding fine or both. Any way, both are breaking the law, whether you do 10kms over the limit or 100kms its the same thing, kinda like asking for a lessor sentence for beating someones head in with a brick as apposed to shooting them

dan's an idiot 7/14/2009 1:29:39 PM
I find it hard to believe that you have never broken the speed limit or anyone commenting here. Bunch of hypocrites.....................I find it hard to believe that you actually managed to figure out how the keyboard works.

Will 7/14/2009 1:40:22 PM
It is crazy that when you actually write something that makes sense, it never makes it onto these pages, but when you write crap and hate speech, it is on immediately. I wrote a long comment about 10 minutes ago, and it has not been placed. What give editor?

Get real 7/14/2009 1:40:57 PM
Speed DOES NOT KILL, people who drive like idiots is what does kill.

HS 7/14/2009 1:47:15 PM
It's not the speed that kills, whether it be too fast or too slow, but the difference in speed. 2 Cars moving in the same direction at 120km/h will never colide where as 1 moving at 80km/h and one at 120km/h could. The greater the difference in speed, the greater the impact

1000000km 7/14/2009 1:47:40 PM
and counting, distance driven or ridden by myself on SA roads. Touch wood so far accident free besides 1 bumper bashing.

The real reason for the high accident rate are the retards on the road. The stupid a$$holes who should never get a licence in the first place. Not the "speed kills" blanket excuse. 50% of deaths are pedestrians, who cannot judge speed / distance or are pissed and run in front of cars. Makes no difference how fast you going, 80, or 180. The other car vs car accidents are almost always caused by someone who was quite simply not aware of what was going on around them, or not paying attention (driving through red robot), or just doing something really stupid like overtaking on blind rise.

Judging by the statements I would guess this Jaques author is one of those drivers who never really mastered driving and feels intimidated on the road.

Neil 7/14/2009 1:49:59 PM
I must confess that I do at times not adhere to the speed limit. However, the aggression and arrogance shown in this blog made me curious and I did some research on the topic. According to some of the research the risk of having a fatal accident more than doubles for every 5 kph you exceed the 60 kph speed limit. I must mention that all this research is done at 60kph as this is considered a fatal speed. Another comparison shows that at 50kph it takes 28m to stop and will have no impact on 30m. At 60kph it takes 38 m to stop, impact at 30m is 44kph. At 90kph it takes 70m to stop, impact at 30m is 90kph. Another statistic is that a 70 km/h collision has about twice the force of a 50 km/h collision. Do the math people – “speed does kill” – something I will be considering going forward.

Cat 7/14/2009 1:50:17 PM
Yes, and once we've completely controlled everyone's driving, we can then go and remove all books that contain information that may corrupt morals. Then we get to sensor the content of any new books, film, radio and television. After that we will remove any offensive material from school curriculums. Oh look, the perfect nanny state that looks a lot like the old regime! How about taking responsibility for your own actions instead, and teaching your children respect and accountability. There's a start.

Sasha 7/14/2009 1:51:16 PM
I absolutely love how almost everyone here has some form of rationalisation for why they don't obey traffic laws. It's like saying "don't tell me not to drink and drive because I can't not drink when I'm out with my friends". And for all those bristling with indignation now: Yes, it is exactly the same. And no, I'm not denying that I sometimes drive too fast. I'm just not excusing it. It's wrong and against the law. Plain and simple.

Chris 7/14/2009 1:59:14 PM
NO IT DOES NOT! Simple as that!

Lotus 7/14/2009 2:00:31 PM
Drivers obeying the rules of the road is the only way to bring down road accident fatalities. No drinking and driving, speeding, unroadworthy vehicles or stupid behaviour. stop blaming traffic officers, road conditions etc and blame the culprits who are behind the wheel of the car.

Smithy 7/14/2009 2:01:12 PM
So Jacques, who do you propose to pay for all these ingenious solutions of yours?

Win@Budda 7/14/2009 2:05:27 PM
Maybe you should get your head out your ass and think a little! You put your hazards and your headlights on in case of an emergency or don't you know the National Road Traffic Act! My brother was killed and I rushed to the scene with my hazards and headlights on and who happens to be in the fast lane not bothering to move even with blowing my hooter, a p*&% of a Mercedes driver! So please I couldn't give a shit about your views!

Scott Silburn 7/14/2009 2:06:19 PM
While I laud any attempt to reduce the horrifying carnage on our roads, I really think that limiting speeds to 120 is rather draconian. Cars have come so far these days with safety & improved dynamics that 120 is really a bit slow. I'm a car enthusiast and my S4 feels like it's looking for a parking at 120. Surely we should just be training motorists properly? Let's look at countries with low death rates & see what they do. The Germans have a low death rate despite the autobahnen. How about banning that ludicrous right-wing plot known as the taxi industry for a start. Then jail those who drink & drive, for a mandatory week. And introduce an advanced driving qualification which people must get in order to be allowed to travel at speeds of up to, say, 180. All rounded off with much more rigorous driver training & ongoing education?

joe 7/14/2009 2:08:10 PM
walking out your front door, you can trip fall and break your balls and die. Everything in this world kills. Let the people die on the roads, no accidents means no business for tow truckers, panelbeaters, insurance co's, paramedics, the undertaker etc etc etc. it would be boring if we tried to fix mans inabilities to control himself on a daily basis. Let it be, death, life.....if it is your time, or if your times up then thats it. worry about living life to the fullest the best possible way. One of the commentators on this site will not see the end of today or tomorrow, thats life.........deal with it. dont play god and fix what you cannot. in that split moment you decide to travel at 200km/h crash and die, (bad) if you survive (goodluck).

dans069 7/14/2009 2:16:02 PM
Metro cops and the Government love fast cars... Thats how they make they're money... Through speeding tickets and court summons... If you get caught doing 180km/h in a 80 Zone you get fined like a MOFO... The cop will come to your window ask for "e-license" and e-registretion" and if you're really smooth with a quick hand to your wallet you can make it all disappear. Thats the beauty of this country. You can do whatever you want. We are one of the most free thinking nations in the world and until corruption is fully eradicated, things are going to stay just the way they are. So get used to it. People will not stop driving like a**holes just because Jacques wrote an article on governing vehicles. If you were to govern my Sports Car, I'd go to town find the nearest mechanic looking to make a quick buck and get him to ungovern it. and in South Africa I think it's safe to say finding someone willing to do it for a couple grand will not be hard to find. Like I said, Corruption is fuelling the fire to self-sustainability... And boi oh boi people are racking in the benjamins...

Tsomas 7/14/2009 2:17:24 PM
Stupid unroadworthy vehicles ,how can someone be so stupid to a point where they drive without lights at night. people have no regard for other road users it's despicable!!!!

Daile 7/14/2009 2:18:28 PM
A report in todays news was about a motoring journalist being caught at 220 kms/hr in Australia.
Their policeman spokesman said that would come down hard on this guy because speed kills 60 people a year in Australia. Thats right 60 (sixty) people a YEAR.
We can beat them at rugby and cricket but something tells me that they are streets ahead in civilised self control.

Scott Silburn 7/14/2009 2:30:43 PM
Good Heavens Joe!! Which one of us is going to die!?! Please tell me - the suspense is... er... killing me!! :->

Synchronise 7/14/2009 2:33:07 PM
I'm sure you can make a GPS to limit your speed depending on what road you are traveling on but what happens when you have to drive quickly to the hospital or if your chased by a hijacker... Its a great idea but not in our country.

Hijacker 7/14/2009 2:39:27 PM
I think it would be a great idea to limit speed to max 120... slower even!

Fanie 7/14/2009 2:44:53 PM
Win - Parking in the right hand lane, if you're not passing anybody, is ILLEGAL.

Scott Silburn 7/14/2009 2:47:45 PM
Dale - I share your alarm. 60 Australians a year is simply not enough!!!

cindy 7/14/2009 3:00:41 PM
@joe geez joe, i'd settle for BORING any day! luckily, with people like you commentating, that's not bound to happen...

McVanS 7/14/2009 3:18:16 PM
You can’t limit the vehicles speed like that. It would be discriminating against criminals, taxi drivers and speed freaks. How would hijacker and bank robbers do their jobs? How would they get away? I can see it now... Hahaha. A good idea but will never fly here.

Breathelyzer 7/14/2009 3:24:33 PM
I think the provincial authorities should install Breathelyzers at every toll gate location such that while you pay the toll fees, a Breathelyzer checks your alcohol content to ensure its not above the legal limit. If it is they they should have the powers to confisticate the vehicle keys until you are fit to drive again. That will reduce the number of drunkards on our roads. Thats my 2 cents!

Backfoot 7/14/2009 3:26:16 PM
The world gives so much attention to swine flu which have had very few fatalities, yet this issue is ignored. You have my resounding vote. Excellent!!! I have lost loved ones because of speed.

Abe 7/14/2009 4:27:23 PM
I cannot wait for the day that computers take over the task of driving. No more road blocks, no more ejits blocking intersections.

Russel @ Abe 7/14/2009 4:56:48 PM
Big problem when the damn thing freezes however.... :-)

JohnMK 7/14/2009 5:34:24 PM
To read all comments can be laborious. Having driven many, many thousands of kilo's, I need to say the following. People driving, for instance a 1400 Nissan Bakkie, may think that they are doing 120 kph. They are in fact only doing probably 106 kph. The problem is that when I come from behind at a true 120kph, they want to block me,because they THINK i'm driving to fast. This will make me extremely aggressive and might cause the Nissan to end up in the gutters. Wake up you morons. Only the police are allowed to decide who breaks the law. Rather move over. You may be the one in the wrong.

lazyhorse 7/14/2009 6:38:57 PM
you guys live in a dream world,hit it where it hirts the most, the pocket, money, speeding and other offences fine the buggers, by taking a certain percentage of the offenders salary

Hardy 7/14/2009 10:41:41 PM
This obsession with speed alone is the biggest part of the problem. Bad behavior, moving violations and unroadworthy vehicles are the biggest cause of accidents. Speed is not a factor where the road conditions are good and people are responsible. Technology will advance and I'd rather experience progress in getting to destinations faster and more efficiently, without the knee-jerk backward thinking "speed kills" brigade holding us back. Speed doesn't kill. Stopping very fast does.

J 7/15/2009 4:28:09 AM
Reading these comments simply goes to show what the true mentality of SA drivers are: non-thinking testosterone infused timebombs all of you. Thw whole of the civilized world drive at 110km/h. Don't mention Germany, anybody who has driven in Germany will know that while they drive fast they are not aggressive and the 180km/h Porche will slow down to let 100km/h Opel pass the big truck going at 80km/h. Try that in SA...

@ ANDREW 7/15/2009 7:48:55 AM
Nanny state??? Then you would hate living in a 1st world country like Australia sweetie. There if you DON'T comply with the law people look down on you. And believe me, they have plenty laws. Try doing there what you do here, your arse will be in jail before you could blink.

@John MK 7/15/2009 7:49:42 AM
Oh PLEASE do tell what car you drive that has TRUE speed????

@WIN 7/15/2009 7:53:37 AM
Problem is, every person who is just in a hurry, puts his headlights and flashers on.

Judith 7/15/2009 7:55:51 AM
After reading the majority of these comments, I now fully understand why we have such a criminal society. Most of you admit to breaking the law regularly with impunity. Go ahead and blame everyone else including the police for your lawlessness. Eventually you will suffer the consequences in one way or another.

Tudor 7/15/2009 8:05:38 AM
Win 3.32 You are one of the idiots hoging the right lane, what is the rule of the road pass right and move to the left once done. In Germany they will lock you up for doing what you do.

Hnie 7/15/2009 10:04:30 AM
The ONLY solution would be to put more cops (and more intelligent ones) on the road to get reckless drivers off the road. Taxis should be held to the 100km/h speed limit and forced to obey traffic laws. Reckless driving (even at low speeds) kills not speed itself. Driving along a quiet road at 160 is much safer that overtaking in peak traffic recklessly at much lower speeds than the allowed speed. Travelling through the Karoo at 120 is also dangerous since people fall asleep. Limiting a car's max speed is stupid as someone already said. Sometimes you need to go faster to pass a vehicle driving just below the speed limit and you do so as quickly as you can to avoid oncoming traffic.

Blo247 7/15/2009 10:58:47 AM
The problem on SA roads is not fast driving. The problem is mainly that people that drive on SA roads are too stupid to realise that there actions can be fatal. I refer to those people who drive up one ways and idiots who don't check their blind spots or mirrors. That's is the cause of all major accidents in SA. There are too many people on our roads who have bought their licenses.

Terry 7/15/2009 11:49:17 AM
Traffic police don't do anything!Thats the problem ... on my way to work today there were people driving recklessly , commiting violations (doing a u-turn right infront of a no u-turn sign cuasing absolute choas)and all this with traffic offcials right there . They just don't care to the point that people break the laws right in front of officails coz they know they will do nothing . The system is not at fault , its the implementation thereof . Good luck with the points system , we'll see how that goes . My prediction is more washing of hands money for officials .

Maverick 7/15/2009 12:33:00 PM
Samsam is the demonstration of the selfishness and disregard for other people's safety and the contempt of the law. He demonstrates by his actions what the route cause of the problem in SA is, trying to be funny but acually being a brainless fool.

@SamsamforMaverick 7/15/2009 1:26:54 PM
But Samsam was having "some few drinks" before writing his piece!

deven-r 7/15/2009 3:30:43 PM
FIRST OF ALL.speed does not kill its the sudden stop. yes speeding is a massive danger to yourself,passangers and other road users. however to those of you who dont indicate when changing lanes nor check blind spots what makes you any better on the road? speaking of our roads,god only knows where tax payers money are going! theres several factors that contribute to road deaths not just speeding! if there is such a major concern why not have the goverment allow more venues where people who want to enjoy the vehicles performance can go to and do so legally!

Houg 7/15/2009 4:09:13 PM
Everyone should just get old cars, when I really push my 83 Opel I can get up to about 140km/h, but normally 120 is about what I can do, so this solves speeding, it is also nearly impossible to drive it when I am drunk because I have to push it to get it to start and this is great for sobering up!

Lindsay 7/15/2009 5:00:00 PM
Speed all you want! Its not the speed that kills, its the sudden stop. Follow these very simple rules - Keep left pass right, don't cross solid lines, don't cut in front of people to get to the front of the line, stop before the line at robots and stop streets, don't cross intersection if you can't get out the other side and keep people off freeways. When you out of town you can speed as much as you like! If you fall off the road - that is your own problem - natures way of culling the idiots!

Navarac 7/15/2009 5:29:53 PM
My personal mantra: CAR. Courtesy, Anticipation, Responsibility. Try to observe these three and you'll become a better driver.

Mmmmm 7/16/2009 11:55:25 AM
What about the ladies putting make up on in the traffic, and the other day I saw one actually READING a book???WTF?

Traffic in SA is horrific, one way to get rid of these old cars is to enforce the rules of GB, all vehicles older that 10 Years should be removed from the road....no taxi's and better public transport systems....

Charles 7/16/2009 1:21:56 PM
Willie makes an earlier point and very valid that highlights, it is the stupidity of the driver that is often at fault. Yes speed kills if you are stupid enough to lane swop, dice and speed in built up areas during peak traffic. Unfortunately, speeding is the easier one to discuss and pick-on. What about: Overladened vehicles; Children not strapped in (has anyone witnessed the result of an unstrapped child - I did when arriving at a scene not pretty); Unroadworthy vehciles; Drunk Driving; Untrained drivers ...and the list goes on. Yes we have idiots that want to speed all day everyday and they should GROW-up but we have to look beyond just speed to understand the true reasons of accident related deaths.

Bradley 7/16/2009 4:18:46 PM
Easy solution get rid of Taxies and up the legal limit to 200. I spent 10 years driving is peak hour traffic. Now I have the luxury of walking to work less than 5 minutes.

Robert Z 7/16/2009 9:36:23 PM
The big thing is: Pay attention to what you do. A cellpone distracts you. You cannot concentrate on the road and a cellphone. Be friendly to other drivers. Alow them to enter the road or overtake you. They must do the same for you.Stop showing fingers. Too many people have too big ego's. They think nothing of the other road-user. Funny that he is a business man and would like your money in his pocket. On a short distance you gain nothing with speed. The slower driver might arive only five minutes later than you. He might be late because he had to stop at your accident scene. In that case you might arrive much earlier at your own funeral than expected. Speed does not kill if nothing goes wrong, but oh boy, if something goes wrong, a burst tyre, a car that turns into your lane or put brakes ahead of you, a pedestrian in the road, a dog, a bad pothole, you can name hundreds of things that can happen. Boy oh boy your time is up. Be careful, you might be so fast you might miss the golden gates and carry straight on to the hot place and burn your tyres forever and ever.

riyaaz ismail 7/20/2009 3:16:11 PM
as u mentioned the bulk of fatalities are caused over weekends and long weekends.this is also the time when alcohol consumption and narcotic sales increase.where to from here?

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