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Every coach has favourites

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2008-06-09 13:22

Peter Neill, News24 User

It is no secret that I am a big Jake White fan and the fact is that coaches of this calibre are a rare breed.

Peter De Villiers hasn't been around long enough for me to be able to dissect his long term strategy and understand his mindset, but there is little doubt that he has made a fairy-tale beginning to his tenure as Bok coach against Wales, even more so than White in his first week.

Over the years there were three selections that White persisted with, that left me baffled. The first was Jaco Van Der Westhuizen. I couldn't understand what it was that made White continuously stick with Van Der Westhuizen, with so many other options at his disposal.

Of course Van Der Westhuizen fell away before the RWC, but there were two other mystery selections for me. Wynand Olivier was a favorite choice of White, until the bitter end. Although Olivier was good on defence, for me, he was also static and one dimensional in attack and was not and never will be a world class centre.

Also I could never understand why Chavhanga was not given more opportunities at wing. His debut for the Boks resulted in six tries, but after that he never featured again, except when he was thrown to the wolves with the second stringers who traveled down under, for that famous away leg of the tri nations.

Of course it is common knowledge that Chavhanga was extremely injury prone, and maybe that was why White didn't take him to the RWC, but even so, the fact is that Jean De Villiers was also injured and that didn't stop Jake from selecting him.

Of course we all know that every coach has his favourites and in White's case he was also single-minded in restoring pride and value to selection, by making it almost impossible to be selected once his squad was in place. In the end, as much as there is no doubt that White achieved his goal, could it be that his dedication to this cause with his selection policies became both his blessing and his curse?

A new era

Either way, for me, Peter De Villiers has heralded a new and exciting era and has breathed a breath of fresh air with some of his selections. Chavhanga is on the wing and I have no doubt that he will vindicate De Villiers' faith in him and prove his worth. There is no substitute for speed and this man has the potential to become a superstar for South Africa like Bryan Habana.

Also, De Villiers' choice against Wales of Conrad Jantjes at fullback and Adi Jacobs at centre, has given both of these up and coming stars a taste of the big time and they didn't disappoint.

All in all it seems that De Villiers is using the foundation that White constructed over four years to build his new team and this for me is brilliant. Luke Watson also deserved his place in the team after his Super14 form and it was his brilliant passes that sparked at least two of the four tries on Saturday. It is pleasing to note that this controversy is behind us in South African rugby and De Villiers has certainly helped us to move on.

His selection of the core players from the RWC to form the basis of his selection is smart. His inclusion of oversees players in the team was a sensible and brave move and his faith in John Smit as a captain is already paying dividends.

The Boks, although rusty against Wales, were calm and are to be commended, given their brief preparation time.

Of course, the real test will be during the Tri-Nations. If there is one criticism from my side, it is that De Villiers needs to talk less for now and allow his results to do the talking.

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LM 6/9/2008 1:32:59 PM
This match did not answer any questions, wales were well below par, and even Epi Taione, would have had a good game.

SHa 6/9/2008 1:37:53 PM
It will really take a long time for South Africans to really be ojective when it comes to SA sport, they will always look for reason WHY We lost, WHOM to blame, its so sad.....

Arthur 6/9/2008 1:41:54 PM
Good ideas like knowledge is found everywhere not just in presitine places. Commendable aticle.

chris 6/9/2008 1:50:56 PM
Not Wales, but the All Blacks, Australia and France.

LS 6/9/2008 1:54:18 PM
Indeed a commendable article. On of the best articles covering Springbok Coaching recently. Agree with your sentiments Peter N.

Sherwin 6/9/2008 1:57:21 PM
I too was a great Jake fan and had my doubts about Snor.But the real test will come in the Tri-Nations as Wales were hardly at full strength. I couldn't care less what the make up of the team consists of-as long as we keep on winning

Frank 6/9/2008 1:59:30 PM
Good article but Wales is only 6 nations champs on paper. This team is far below par and they lack a good scrumhalf with a third stringer playing due to injuries. It is however sad to see that we strugle in the scrums. This must be sorted out before the Tri-Nations but all in all a good start considering it's the 1st test in over 8 months.

shaun 6/9/2008 1:59:35 PM
A good start but there's still a lot of work to go to impress most people. im quite excited to see how the team performs in the next few weeks.

jack 6/9/2008 2:11:34 PM
This was a 2nd-string Welsh side - typical end of season squad. We learned nothing other than that it was a workmanlike start to the season. Our front row was not good - Mujati is not international standard. The right wing (when Chavanga and Jacobs run together)is very weak on defence. These guys slipped too many tackles - they should be dropped. There is only one decent outside centre in SA - Jacques Olivier. We are still not counter-rucking effectively, so not getting enough turnovers.

Z 6/9/2008 2:14:03 PM
Was very happy to see Luke Watson being given a chance. It needed a not so tall coach to have faith in not so tall players:-). About Chavhanga, i am a bit concerned about his positional defensive play. Two tries were conceded from his side. I am sure it will come with experience though.

Johann 6/9/2008 2:16:37 PM
Guys, please get a life. When will we all be able to just say well done? I had my doubts about die Snor and his agenda, but let's face it, he's the coach now. I like all of you think Jake was great, but this oke has the toughest job in world rugby; don't make it harder than it is already. I read an article yesterday in the Times, written by Clinton Somebody, and frankly the guys attitude stinks. All he could do was compare. Why? It?s a new coach, a new era, and some fresh ideas. Let the man do his job now. Let?s for once start judging when he actually gets into the big games.

peter Black 6/9/2008 2:17:20 PM
You are correct it is a dream start. However, my opinions will be limited until tri-nations begins. That is when a coach needs real vision and steel. I thought the side was balanced. Chavanga is still too light for test rugby and possibly needs bulking up. Jacobs is a bit of a 'has been' in centre and will struggle against decent centre pairings.

Sneewel 6/9/2008 2:19:32 PM
Where is JJ and Tank now, they're rather quiet or have they nothing good to say about our first black coach? Well done boks, great style of rugby shown. The transformation issue is boring now as long as you keep winning. Still lots of room for improvement needed before 3Nations starts. BOKKE!!!!

Daniel 6/9/2008 2:23:00 PM
Gosh, Jack, not only are you a fair-mainded and balanced SA rugby fan, you've also discovered some mystery decent outside centre no one else has ever heard of. Jacques Olivier? Is that your digs mate? Or just some fantasy composite of the white SA rugby essence?

colin 6/9/2008 2:30:33 PM
Stop it people we won against Wales we should be happy and have no reason to be so negative and we will win the 2nd test next week and also the test against Italy - I believe that our only competition this year will come from the Blacks as the Ausies do not have the depth to be competitive this season as they miss experience in key positions - nr 9 and 10. Between now and the end of the year we will have the Tri Nations and a year-end tour to Europe were we will play Eng, Wales and Scotland and I believe this might just be the most successful international season for the Boks were we might win the Tri Nations and make a clean sweep of the year-end tour to Europe. VIVA DE Villiers

Stryker 6/9/2008 2:32:41 PM
I thought the boks played well - wales were well below par but still - good start for the new coach. I thought Luke Watson had a great game. One word of caution though - The Winger Tandarai and the Fulback Conrad - hmmmm not much there to stop a rampant all black winger - they tackle like fairies.

colin 6/9/2008 2:34:25 PM
I think Jack was looking for Jacque Fourie

Bra Darkie 6/9/2008 2:35:22 PM
The victory against the six nation champions was a great start to PDV's career as coach. However, i can't help but notice how a small sector of our rugby public seems hell bent on wanting pdv to fail. i see some columnists like mark keohane are down playing the victory. I also couldn't help but notice how empty the stadium was bearing in mind that the boks were playing in the heart of "rugbydom". Maybe it's because the coach is not (jake) white. Maybe, i don't know. I hope the fans come out in their numbers at Loftus on Saturday. Oh, and could somebody please put something in the mouths of Luke Watson's detractors because my zip is stuck.

LJB 6/9/2008 2:35:46 PM
Frankly speaking our team also only had a third rate scrumhalf. Our three best scrumhalves wern't picked for the squad.

Viv 6/9/2008 2:38:10 PM
Good article. I hope those who spewed their rubbish here last week, such as hoping/predicting that Wales would win, are choking in their beers right now. ANYONE who stops supporting the national side because of unhappiness with selections - for whatever reason - is a traitor and not worthy of being called a Springbok fan. The real fans want the Boks to succeed - ALWAYS! And Jack, you're not serious about Wynand Olivier, are you? I'm a Bulls fan, but really...

colin 6/9/2008 2:39:34 PM
Chris - France have not been competitive since before the World Cup when they won the 6 nations and Aus will field a young team this year and will unfortunately be no TEST for the men in green and gold ? so our only real test this season will come from the Blacks.

RC 6/9/2008 2:44:46 PM
To all you idiots not happy to have Snor as coach and who keep on harping about how crap Wales were and that until we beat the All blacks we have not acheived anything. Why are you on about that? So are you saying that the World Cup win last year meant nothing cuase we did not beat the All Blacks? Sorry, I forgot the coach was white then, so all was good. please support the boks irrespective of the colour of the coach or stop watching rugby. Hypocrates!

FranMan 6/9/2008 2:47:14 PM
If you dont have anything positive to say then y say it at all. A win like this can only boost our team's confidence. If you really know what it's like to play any kind of sport then you'll know the game is about way more than just physical ability. If the mind set is not right, it aint gonna work. Look at Bennie for example. Let's give our team a chance to get their mindsets on par with the physical abilities. I have faith in this team and MrSnor. R50'kies vir die man in die gehoor met die Snor!

Ray 6/9/2008 2:53:02 PM
The guys who is saying that it was only Wales we beat don't forget we won the WC because we only played England and none of the other top three teams. Jake White had luck on his side and we have to wait and give PDV a chance like we did with Jake.

jvdw 6/9/2008 2:56:30 PM
Jacobs almost qualifies as a never was. For the 1 or 2 "nice" things he does on attack, his defence is way to weak to stand up to the likes of Nonu and Mortlock.

Z 6/9/2008 2:57:42 PM
It could be possible that jack was looking for Wynand Olivier, which might explain his *excitement* for the Bok win.

Geez 6/9/2008 2:57:44 PM
The scoreboard on Saturday was not an accurate account of what actually happened. Both teams played scrappy rugby all round. While it was a good result for the Boks, it was not a very convincing victory. The Tri Nations is when we will get a reasonable idea of the state of SA rugby.

No Expert 6/9/2008 2:58:02 PM
Tight five were OK except for the scrums - what/who was the problem there? Backs lacked fluency, but perhaps that's to be expected. Some of our forwards appear to think that they are utility backs...mmm. However, the standout difference from previous Bok coaching chages was that the defensive pattern looked sound (apart from the lapse when Williams scored). The defensive pattern is what will win or lose the tri-nations...we can build and improve on everything else!

Alicia 6/9/2008 3:00:26 PM
How many of you really, honestly thought we would do so well against Wales? Come on, there is so little to smile about these days....WE WON, by a large margin. Well done Mr. de Villiers. You show them. Every single poor/stupid new or old rugby coach since Kitch Christy passed on, has gone through this. Give the man a chance will you. It's early days. Remember how you shot down previous coaches...then suddenly they're heroes. Players go through the same. My man, Percy.....remember!!!!

Bok 6/9/2008 3:02:39 PM
Wynand is THAT bad. Most overrated centre in the country! Honestly! Dunno how he became a bok! (Surfer from Pretoria, LOL - have you ever!??)

Bollie 6/9/2008 3:03:40 PM
I am also a Jake White fan and I believe that he should still have been the national coach, so instead of spoiling my love for the Boks I am prepared to give Peter de Villiers a fair chance to succeed, If he fails to deliver he will work himself out,if he succeeds he will be just as loved as Jake White was,best of luck Peter.

konstabel 6/9/2008 3:07:45 PM
the World Champions gave the Six Nations champs a rugby lesson they will not soon forget!! Yes, the All Blacks will be the big test, but lets enjoy the moment before we start the doom and gloom talk again.

S White 6/9/2008 3:11:16 PM
WoW!!! AMAZING performance against a second hand Welsh team at the end of their season with homefield advantage!!!.The lions could have won that game.If you play secondhand players that ran onto the field last saturday you can forget making an impact in the tri-nations.Lets replace all the white players and go play against Mexico and keep on winning!!!!

Confused 6/9/2008 3:14:00 PM
I am a little confused about this whole first black coach and transformation saga.Since when is De Villiers black??Last time I checked he was classified under coloured and also isnt transformation meant to bring in more black players into the game..Just out of interest,how many BLACK south africans played on Saturday?

Matrix 6/9/2008 3:15:38 PM
Would still like to see PdV select a full RSA team, without imports (3 x ZIM). Just to reflect that true springbok team won. Still believe there is too many political issues, such as team selection. True test of grit, strategic planning and talent will show when RSA meets our greatest oposition, i.e. AUZ & NZL. The rest are considdered 2nd division. One funny moment where no 1 fell over own feet.

rob 6/9/2008 3:17:17 PM
Congrats to both Peters, Neill for a great article and De Villiers for a great game. We won guys, stop looking for reasons to not be happy about this.Odd hick-up here and there, but it was the first time this team has played together, communication will only get better, and so will the team!! No exceptions, all the players did their part in one way or another. VIVA BOKKE!!

patrick bateman 6/9/2008 3:27:54 PM
Colin to say that Australia will be no test for the springboks is a bit shortsighted. They have arguably the best coach in the world and players brimming with confidence after the Waratahs run in the super 14. It is possible that they will present a greater challenge than new zealand this year. Having said that I believe we will win the tri nations- cementing our rightfull place at the top of the pile

Ant 6/9/2008 3:29:15 PM
Jake White had some shockers as coach. I'm sure Snor might trip up a few times too, but the fact remains that he is off to a fantastic start. He has so many player options to choose from. This season has 13 more matches to go. You can be sure that players will be injured/rested, and all will get a run. Well done to Luke Watson - Jake White is going to eat his stupid words about this brilliant player. What a silly thing to be remembered for.(Not picking one of the future stars of SA rugby!)

terence 6/9/2008 3:30:55 PM
this is not the place to come out the closet son. Luke watson is just not cutting edge, ok he has had his chace now time to put in the big guns. Colin jake white has won the tri-nations and the world cup do you think peter de villiers will achieve that? highly unlikely....

Gary Clark 6/9/2008 3:41:49 PM
Well done bokke for Saturdays game,I believe if we can score well over 40 points in a test we are doing something right.Gonna be at Loftus to watch us win again.Was good to watch us play a bit differently to our normal style.Cant wait for tri nations, we have deffinetly got the depth and skills lets just hope we can put it all together and bring back our trophy. GO BOKKE !!!!!!

Bokamoso 6/9/2008 3:50:14 PM
When will we ever learn to say well done for good work.you'll have to find mistakes didn't?it is sad.get real guys or better yet get a life

Sham 6/9/2008 3:58:24 PM
All the negative remarks?Ive been an All Black fan since I was a kid & always said that if we select truthfully,I will become a Bok supporter & believe me,on Sat it was an honour to supprort our boys.Div should be given a chance & no,the All Blacks won't be the test coz Jake White didnt win against them last year's Tri Nations & a pity they didnt meet during the World Cup. Olivier is not test standard & Steyn is overratedaseven the Sharks didnt even know what to do with him - Sham

Frank 6/9/2008 4:20:31 PM
Well done Boks and Peter de Viliers. But where was Ryan Kankowski? Saw Pierre Spies once, when he scored an 'on a plate try'. Kankowski was the best player in the Super 14! And where was Kockott? De Villers can improve his team immeasurably by just including those 2 players. And leave Pienaar as fly-half, he is the future!

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