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A road of beggars

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2009-01-08 14:38

Pal Mabelane, News24 User

While many Gauteng drivers complain about inconsiderate taxi drivers, faulty traffic lights at major intersections and Gautrain detours making our routes longer, one has to observe a certain phenomenon that has taken over our major roads and shopping centres: beggars.

While I sympathise that many of them are unemployed and need donations for food, certain characteristics about these guys have made driving an even more hellish experience.

These are some of the observations I have made on some intersections, parking bays in cities and shopping centres in an around Gauteng.

Tourists from far and wide, take note.

Windscreen Washers - You will find these guys at the Grayston Drive on/offramps on the M1, especially if you cross the bridge to Wynberg and Alexandra and the corner of Marcia and Broadway in Bruma.

When the robot closes, these guys rush for your windscreen and spray water dashed with dishwashing liquid and start wiping it off with a "squishy"

Once done they expect some sort of monetary compensation, failure to do that will result in them banging your car and hurling all sorts of insults at you. Female white drivers are the main targets as they mostly don't have the guts to say "Voetsek".

The Mothers with babies on their back - These are spread all across Gauteng particularly on roads an intersections that "filter" people into the major suburbs.

For example, if you're driving into the southern suburbs, you'll find them at the Kliprivier interchange.

What makes this a bad experience is not the fact that the mother does not have money to feed the child, but the fact that the mother has to subject the baby to the scorching sun with no umbrella just to manipulate you emotionally for your money.

The teenage boys with obviously fictitious placards - What do I mean by these you may ask? A typical example, "Please help my dog is sick in hospital, 20c, 50c or R1 will help so I can buy him bread". What? I know for a fact that most of them only use the money to buy glue or drugs that give them a high all day. You'll find these guys on the corner of Oxford and Bompas in Rosebank, right opposite the McDonalds.

The Volunteer Car Guards - All major malls and cities have got these guys. They help you park your car in the best parking spots and promise to watch over your car while doing your shopping.

When you come back they'll "help" you drive out and expect compensation. The problem with these guys is they are car guards by day and robbers by night, particularly in Sunnyside, Pretoria.

The ones in malls also work with major crime syndicates and follow you to your house or destination and rob as soon as you reach the gate.

My friend Masebo found the perfect parking bay in Hatfield located under a tree the other day and paid one of these R10 to keep it for her while she was making a turn at the office, she came back and it was given to someone else...I couldn't help but laugh at her. How could she be so trusting?

While I have highlighted the negatives, there are also positives to acknowledge. On the corner of Melville and Bompas there was a guy wearing a hat the shape of a coffin with the words, USE A CONDOM and AIDS KILLS on either side.I gave him R1.

You gotta love GP!

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Baseline 1/8/2009 2:57:54 PM
If they weren't getting paid they would not be there in the 1st place. If you are blind let them show you where to park and if you bought your licence get them to help you out of a parking bay. The only time you?ll want someone to watch over your car is when you don?t have insurance. I don?t pay these dudes anything because I?m proudly insured. The insurer has an obligation to compensate me if anything should happen to my car.

Kaballas 1/8/2009 2:59:43 PM
Car Guards are nothing more then beggars. And if you dont want to let them "watch" over your car then theyll scratch it while your gone. I believe the Mall's management is responsible for the safety of their client's cars etc. Close to where I live the newest trend is for white middle aged guys to dress up as clowns and apparently beg for "rag" money. But just ask them anything about rag and suddenly they'll swear at you and walk to another car. Rag in the middle of December.... please..

Johan 1/8/2009 3:00:05 PM
Look out for the gentleman @ Fountains circle in Pretoria.He fakes the 'no legs' trick.This guy actually walks normal like anybody else,but makes mega bucks!Most propably an illegal immigrant too...

Elizabeth 1/8/2009 3:06:00 PM
It's hard - some days I have to give out so much money because not everything I want is at the same centre. Yet they'll expect money. And I give because I feel bad. It's easier to say no at traffic lights though. You never know who really needs it for food and who just wants it for glue or alcohol.

Just Me 1/8/2009 3:06:41 PM
.... wait till you come to Cape Town. they on almost every corner.

Kwe Kwe Guy 1/8/2009 3:09:09 PM
I wont give any of them a cent. When they come to my car I smack them with my baseball bat. I also spit on them and swear at them If I cant reach them. Everyone can work. Its just a matter of getting paid for doing nothing. I dont pay the car gaurd unless he can show me which car is mine upon return, If he cant I kick him in the face. They are all scared of me and my dog.

Mark V 1/8/2009 3:09:18 PM
I gave a guy clothes once - a bag full in fact. The next day he was wearing his old attire - plastic bags and no shoes. Needless to say I will NEVER do that again. Also seen "cripples" at robots packing up and jumping into taxi's "after work". ai jai jai!

Kwe Kwe Guy 1/8/2009 3:09:42 PM
I wont give any of them a cent. When they come to my car I smack them with my baseball bat. I also spit on them and swear at them If I cant reach them. Everyone can work. Its just a matter of getting paid for doing nothing. I dont pay the car gaurd unless he can show me which car is mine upon return, If he cant I kick him in the face. They are all scared of me and my dog.

Louis 1/8/2009 3:10:02 PM
The other day while they were loading the trash in our complex, a group of these guys rushed to my gate since I was home during the holiday. They demanded some compensation for their hard work and they were very persistent. These guys have previously harassed my wife implied that they would leave our trash if she does not give them something. These are people with jobs and still they take part in aggressive begging.

Viparo 1/8/2009 3:10:37 PM
The only way we're going to rid ourselves of these people is by outlawing GIVING to beggars. Will work a treat.

Hard worker 1/8/2009 3:11:08 PM
The quickest way to get rid of these beggars (black and white) is to politely tell them that: "Unfortunately I have to work for my money - I am not as lucky as you to get it for free..." They don't like it, but it works. I don't believe that there is NOTHING that they can do to earn money in an honest manner. They just don't try hard enough. It's a mentality: give me, give me, give me...

Kolobe 1/8/2009 3:12:02 PM
The poor are shunned even by their neighbours, he who despises and mock the poor mocks their creator, people we have A RESPONSIBILITY for the poor as well, help the beggars please. When they beg we complaint but then when they resort to crime we cry. Help those that are in need asseblief

mike 1/8/2009 3:12:04 PM
There is a new trick the street venders have disovered which has happened to me a few times! When you stop at a robot they point at your tire with a look of real concern on their faces and when you open your window to see what is wrong with your tire they throw whatever crap they are selling into your car! And then expect you to pay for it! The second time they tried it on me the guy threw a ferrari cap into my car, i said thanks and drove off. That will teach him a lesson.

Kolobe 1/8/2009 3:12:42 PM
The poor are shunned even by their neighbours, he who despises and mock the poor mocks their creator, people we have A RESPONSIBILITY for the poor as well, help the beggars please. When they beg we complaint but then when they resort to crime we cry. Help those that are in need asseblief

Vona 1/8/2009 3:13:10 PM
Firstly i' can understand why people beg on the other hand i'm affraid of them and scared to judge the situation for fear of being branded as not sympathetic. And what will happen if i dont give when i have money will God not punish me and my family?

Gerhard 1/8/2009 3:16:04 PM
We can all relate to what Pal Mabelane is referring to. We have become a nation of beggars and destroyers of our beautiful environment with the filth we leave on our pavements and street corners! I live in Glenvista in the South of Joburg, one of the more beautiful nature areas in the city. However, our suburb is being invaded by these street corner beggars. One of these women actually has a baby in the stomach, a baby on the back and a 3rd one holding mom's hand! Can make babies but cannot work?

Remo 1/8/2009 3:16:09 PM
When I see the extremety of this beggar issue, a question springs to mind, do the policies of the status quo really work?

Inge 1/8/2009 3:16:49 PM
I HATE THEM... I HATE alllllllllll car guards. I have a facebook group that I use as therapy to vent about car guards.

Lithium 1/8/2009 3:17:14 PM
I agree with you. They irritate the life out of me, but the guys on this forum is going to change your letter into a racial anti apartheid party

Sal 1/8/2009 3:20:33 PM
In the Pretoria CBD, there are now beggars who wil ambush you inside shops, or just outside fast food outlets. I've had people approaching me while I was standing in the cue at McDonalds. Now these ones know how to work a crowd ...

gazmic 1/8/2009 3:20:39 PM
If you are a salary earning individual, you give a substantial portion of your income to the government.In my case,well over 45% including the VAT on most purchases.Do NOT feel guilty about ignoring beggars - your tax should be helping them.Ignore them.They will forget your dismissive head shake in 0.3 seconds as they aim for the next car. PS: Never say NO to car guards when parking, just come back and drive off without tipping to avoid vandalism.

Thokozani 1/8/2009 3:20:55 PM
What seriously drove you to write this article?, it say nothing, u talking about things that we see everyday driving around the province. No challenge, which is what this platform is for. What you've done is just make street beggars look bad and you might have succeeded. Yor moment is just around the corner.

June 1/8/2009 3:21:13 PM
You left out the type of beggar that drags his/her blind/deaf/retarded cousin or friend along to get more sympathy.

johanna 1/8/2009 3:21:24 PM
go to South gate you will see most of them with a baby on their back, it is everyday thing, i think they must be arrested.

blah 1/8/2009 3:21:46 PM
Are becoming more annoying as time goes on. The moment you get out of your car they start mumbling and try to get your attention whether you want to look at them or not. If you make the mistake of acknowledging them they think that you now owe them something. I wish they would all just disappear.

Anon 1/8/2009 3:22:30 PM
At the 14'th Avenue offramp Roodepoort is an Old white guy, dressed smar, even with sunscrren is is picked up with a golf and taken to his next destination...daily. IF he is not making HUGE sums of money, he would not be doing it....why dont people just donate their money to welfare agencies instead of promoting beggars!

fred 1/8/2009 3:22:57 PM
go to emperors palace,you have to pay to get in and when you park there are car guards who want more money from you.I am getting tired of going to a mall and getting hounded by a car guard when you get back to your car, they were nowhere in sight when you arrived but they suddenly appear & want money from you, people who want to collect your rubbish at the robot and then you must pay, the best are the white beggers who take smoke breaks

Rendani 1/8/2009 3:24:50 PM
This is an issue that has been worrying me for quite such time. What is most disconcerting about this is that there are so many illegal immigrants, notably Zimbabweans, who are active in this racket. In every small town and city of our country, there are hordes of blind Zimbabweans who are being towed around asking for a "donation". It has been reported in the media that there are about 5000 blind Zimbabweans living in run down apartments in downtown Johannesburg.

Jill 1/8/2009 3:24:58 PM
I did not spend hours in queues, hundreds of rands in driving lessons, the learner's test, registering for a driver's test, and been a driver for 6+ years to be told how to reverse out a goddamn parking space!!!

Thabo Z 1/8/2009 3:26:19 PM
How about we give those guys Political party sponsored placards. So it will say No food , No job, broken toe, any donation will help and below that it can say Proudly Sponsored by the ANC , Helping the nation to prosperity OR Vote ANC , A better life for all What do you guys think

billybob 1/8/2009 3:26:46 PM
I am going to start demanding payment for protecting people who go into a clubs etc afterall its the same thing as being a "car gaurd" and you will always get the people who say "shame at least he is not doing crime"

CK 1/8/2009 3:28:53 PM
We offered a beggar to help us paint 3 rooms in our house for R1 500.00 meals would've been provided as well. Well he told us exactly where to get off as he made more money begging.

KOBUS 1/8/2009 3:29:40 PM
I hate those guys who "help" you drive out. Just LEAVE ME ALONE, I know how to drive! The little kaartmannetjie jumping around behind your car is just another hazard you have to watch out for. Another thing is beggars with placards saying "I'd rather die of hunger than steal", as if this is some sort of accomplishment which should be rewarded. "Not to steal" is not an achievement, it's the default position of any civilized person. Rather tell me "I want money to buy alcohol!". Honesty is best!

JHS 1/8/2009 3:30:07 PM
I agree, If shopping centres want my business, then they must provide the security. And I avoid place where I have to pay to park in their parking. Shopping Centres make enough money.

KOBUS 1/8/2009 3:30:33 PM
I hate those guys who "help" you drive out. Just LEAVE ME ALONE, I know how to drive! The little kaartmannetjie jumping around behind your car is just another hazard you have to watch out for. Another thing is beggars with placards saying "I'd rather die of hunger than steal", as if this is some sort of accomplishment which should be rewarded. "Not to steal" is not an achievement, it's the default position of any civilized person. Rather tell me "I want money to buy alcohol!". Honesty is best!

D 1/8/2009 3:31:47 PM
The bunch of glue sniffers at Jan Smuts/Bolton in Parkwood are the worst... They sit there ALL day EVERYDAY and they even sleep there. Surely there must be a by-law against this???!!!!

Terra 1/8/2009 3:32:24 PM
Funny thing - the mothers and babys begging in the south have been approached by many willing to help. Women who own day care centres have offered to look after that mother's child instead of subjecting the baby to the heat of the day. This has occurred more than once. Thing is, the mother makes more money playing on everyones guilt than looking after the baby and her needs properly. There have been numerous articles regarding that particular beggar in The Southern Courier newspaper.

Anon 1/8/2009 3:33:55 PM
Well I giggled, but sadly all of it is true. haa haa. I usually use the excuse " I am on a diet" when a beggar comes along, that usually gets them so confused that they just walk by, or if you say " No thank you I don't need any today". Their faces are magical. sure I feel sorry for them, and wish I could help and I do when I can, but hell I am poor too and work my behind of for the peanuts I make to buy food and pay rent.

Smanga Zulu 1/8/2009 3:34:05 PM
I just can't resist giving food to women who beg with babies on their back... Should I continue doing this? It's really sad to see this babies looking frail and hungry, if I have food... I give it to them...

Gerald 1/8/2009 3:34:29 PM
at first your article was okay until you went too far and labelled the guy at fountains a possible illegal immigrant, what makes you say that? is it because he is black and poor, so we must presume all black people who beg at the traffic lights and street corners are probably illegal immigrants. just a thought thats all! maybe you can clarify this matter quickly before it turns into a racial slur!!

Alison 1/8/2009 3:35:56 PM
The window 'washers' at the Malibongwe Drive off-ramps are very aggressive, and can be quite wipers as soon as they squirt that filthy water onto my windscreen. It usually splashes them. They seen to have given up on me - thank goodness!

Robert Ndungane 1/8/2009 3:36:44 PM
A troubling issue indeed.

Tsotsi 1/8/2009 3:36:54 PM
tenants pay monthly fees for car gaurds. Those with uniform. No need to feel guilty if you do not tip them. I wonder where all these blind people all of a sudden pop up. Glue?

siya 1/8/2009 3:37:40 PM
I dont trust any of the buggers at intersections these days they just there to con you off

Anon 1/8/2009 3:38:21 PM
I was out one night in Cape Town and was walking to my car when a "car guard" followed me, demanding money. Upon reaching my car I saw that my window had been smashed. The "guard" offered no explanation, instead holding out his hand and still demanding money. I nearly lost it. That was when I decided that I will never EVER give a "car guard" money again. What the hell is the point. Just don't tell them beforehand, otherwise they vandalise your car. It's extortion more than anything else.

Chris 1/8/2009 3:38:33 PM
The two teenagers at the corner of Brooklyn and Lynwood road also walk as if they are cripple sometimes. I have seen them walk normal. Why doesn't the Metro police do something about this new phenomena. We should not give them money that's the only way to get rid of them, but then they will find another way to beg or steal.

Lefuno 1/8/2009 3:39:08 PM
What bother me most is that "why someone have to make so many babies when she knows that she doesn't work" Maybe we should start giving them some condoms insted of money maybe they will stop producing this babies like is on fashion

AppleD 1/8/2009 3:43:17 PM
You forgot to mention the blind guys. Theory is that they are part of a sindicate. The sindicate ships the blind people from Durban and make them beg on the streets for money. In return the blind guys get a meal a day and place to sleep... Sigh.....

Terminator 1/8/2009 3:45:12 PM
I am a robot, and you stop with your car at a traffic light. IDIOT! I'll be back!!!

nthatuwa 1/8/2009 3:45:55 PM
on my way out a guy dressed in a shirt & tie asked me for taxi money.When I got out there was not 1 but a whole bunch of them,waiting outside Kfc for you to give them money.Hell,they were dressed better than me,I was only a student.How they picked out Kfc is beyond me & guess what,it was an everyday thing.In this country it seems everyone is a beggar.We have all types of beggars even Corporate Beggars,NICE,They are neatly dressed in shirts & tie.LOL the new SA...

Ingrid 1/8/2009 3:46:35 PM
Car guards/beggars are the bane of my life. They are a lazy lot. Is there a machine manufacturing them? I'm sick of them. Even if you indicate "no" to the window-washer, the idiot goes ahead anyway and sprays the windscreen. Disrespectful pigs.

fizzpop 1/8/2009 3:46:37 PM
I am IT field engineer always in the road i cannot help,every intersection they are there begging,so how much must i give per day or pre intersection that i stop to it.further give them present/parcel they dont need them ONLY money they want thus all.also most are foreigners.

nai 99 1/8/2009 3:49:13 PM
just yesterday i went into westgate for literally 5 minutes tops, come out and car guard demands 5 buks cos hes been watching my car while getting scorched in the sun..........and how is that my problem?!?!?!

dogmatix 1/8/2009 3:49:18 PM
I was at the robot the other day and someone tried to sell me a blind guy with a tin cup........

M 1/8/2009 3:54:06 PM
With regards to the mothers with babies, whats more worrying here is that they are popping out babies when they have no money! How can you be so inconsiderate and selfish to have babies when you cannot give them a future, except one of crime maybe later on in their lives. Stop breeding if you cannot afford it!

20 Something yr old white boy 1/8/2009 3:54:10 PM
The city centre is crawling with them, if U had to give every beggar money at every robot U stopped at U would be broke before you even got 2 work! It's crazy, Edwin Swale & Old South Coast intersection there is 1 of those window washers U mentioned he gets quite rough, but I've found that if U spray your wipers to clean your windows he moves on, the newspaper man at same intersection also throws the paper into your car and then asks for money to pay for it! I once paid R2 4 the late edition!!

Ginger 1/8/2009 3:55:00 PM
If they were genuine beggars they need to go to the shelters at night to sleep. Give money to the shelters as then it is used for food and not alcohol or glue.Too many make more money begging than if they worked. I too have offered jobs to beggars and been sworn at.

Bongani 1/8/2009 3:55:47 PM
This is generalisation. i have seen white women for example chasing away window washers, car guards are just lazy and irritating.

Riaan 1/8/2009 3:56:18 PM
You turning this into racial slur, as far as see is there no mention regarding colour...

Elizabeth 1/8/2009 3:56:37 PM
Vona, God won't expect you to give more than you can. I wondered about that myself, I felt guilty if I don't give anything. But you need to let go of the guilt. If you can help, help. If not, then don't. Gerald, you're the only person trying to turn this into a racial slur. NO-ONE else so far has done it, except you. There are beggars of all races, it has no racial barriers. Why did you feel the need to bring race into the discussion?

Bob 1/8/2009 3:57:08 PM
I offered a number of them jobs when I was working for a family member in construction, they were never interested. Offered to buy food for one, you should have seen how quickly he disappeared, with his "I'm hungry" placards and all. I ignore car guards usually, or tell them that I can drive, and do not need their assistance to reverse out of a parking bay. Mostly I drive with my windows closed, thank heavens for aircon, so I can ignore the beggars at traffic lights.

Zoo 1/8/2009 3:58:01 PM
I do not give to them. No idea if the child is theirs and they are also placing them in serious danger. I remember a beggar with two children at the Grayston/Sandton Drive intersection. Funny how they never got older than about 2 after 5 years. I have heard that the children are hired and I sometimes wonder if it's not true. All said, I'm grateful not to be in their position.

ron 1/8/2009 3:58:05 PM
...all the blind people that are being led between cars at robots - they seem to be at every robot nowadays...

20 Something yr ol white boy 1/8/2009 3:58:27 PM
There is an indian beggar who throws his hands in the air as if praying and then to his stomach as if asking for food and then puts his face right in yours, he is a big irrate, have seen him climb into a taxi to go home after his day of "work" aswell.

Pop Idol 1/8/2009 3:59:45 PM
Id rather have these people bother me at traffic lights than break into my home and rape my wife and dog.Beggars have always been here,they are part of the eco-system,just they have shifted their location to traffic lights.Perhaps you have only noticed them recently since you may now drive a car paid for by an Affirmative Action job,whereas previously you used a rotten Taxi to get from A to B ??? Enjoy your day !

Henry 1/8/2009 4:02:28 PM
I refuse to pay anyone for a service that I do not need and did not ask for. These guys will eventually go away if all of us stop buying the stuff at the intersections and stop giving money. Alas the Shopping Centre normally have a notice saying that it is not thier responsibility should any damage, etc. occur. Why the hell do I need to pay for a parking spot at a Shopping Centre where I am potentially going to spend money at one of the shops who pay for the privelege of having a shop there.

Adriaan 1/8/2009 4:09:30 PM
Just offer the Beggar/CarGuard a old debit/credit card with the excuse of using only plastic. They do remember you, and bug you less.

Baillie 1/8/2009 4:09:40 PM
One third of my day's work goes towards tax. If the goverment cannot spend the money wisely that's not my problem. The beggars can contact Trevor Manuel for donations. They are a traffic safety risk as well, motorbikes may legally pass between cars - and find a beggar on his knees in the way

Point Blank 1/8/2009 4:10:09 PM
It is illegal to have a baby strapped to your back and begging. In Durban they are arrested and removed and their children taken to Social Services. There is child grants and Social Servies they can turn to but exploit their children instead. Thokozani, you missed the point and I do not think you even read the article, this is not a platform for challaging articles, it is a public platform for everyone and anyone to write about anything.

Just Might 1/8/2009 4:11:15 PM
I have been toying with the idea of just carrying a few bottles of glue and handing those out when approached by beggars. It is relatively cheap and once someone is as high as a kite they will not be able to annoy any one else for the rest of the day.

Point Blank 1/8/2009 4:13:41 PM
Not all of them but most. They pretend to be sick, damaged or crippled. They exploit children that may not even be their own, street kids. They are responsible for smash and grabs and hijackings. They too lazy to go and find work, easy pickings just stick out your hand. They often early dection for hijackers further up the street. Do not trust them they not who they seem.

Julie 1/8/2009 4:14:59 PM
At Northgate I get escorted to good parking spaces. After spending a good few hours and a good few rands I normally walk out with a confused look on my face as I cannot remember where I parked my average skadonk - only to be called by the car guard with a huge smile as he points DIRECTLY to my car - I tip him 10bucks. But as I stop at a traffic light and the beggar with a card reading "I'd rather ask than steal", I roll down my window and ask "how 'bout working rather than asking?"

American History X 1/8/2009 4:15:18 PM
The government is earning more taxes than ever before. They have an obligation to get these people off the streets, provide housing, health care and hygiene abblition facilities. Its absurd the amount of taxes paid, yet no one's lives change for the better!!!!

Clinton 1/8/2009 4:15:24 PM
I became very very picky whom I give my hard earned pennies to. A few weeks ago shortly after the "rush hour" traffic in Milnerton had subsided, I found myself at an intersection directly oposite the local "robot" beggar. Only this time he was sitting in his white Citi Golf, talking on his cellphone - still wearing his reflective vest. I will sooner drive to a cafe and buy a loaf of bread for someone on the street than give them cash.

Chris 1/8/2009 4:16:43 PM
I have given up on giving all these people money as it does not solve the problem. Support a CAUSE that can educate, provide shelter and break the cycle. I have seen beggers disgard food and demand money. One had a temper tantrum and smashed the fruit the lady gave him! A lady called Maria that begs on Rivonia rd opposite Vilage Walk went to the coast for Easter! This while I gave her money and a packed lunch every day! Charity does not mean to hand out and give away. IT is HELP!

Foxie 1/8/2009 4:18:12 PM
I'd also give food to a mother with a hungry looking baby on her back. Who wouldn't? But definitely not money! I would not put it beyond some of these characters to make the baby go hungry so that people can feel sorry for them and give money. Then they'll us that money to pay for their bad habits and the baby will still go hungry. Beware, in our NEW! IMPROVED! SA 'poorest of the poor' is usually a euphemism for downright lazy and useless.

John 1/8/2009 4:19:36 PM
I tell road side vendors they are not going to make a sale but try the guy behind me before the robot changes.

Jerry Mr Le Roux 1/8/2009 4:20:39 PM
trying to park while going to watch a rugbymatch is a thriller . I have decided not to attend any matches any more and rather watch the TV

Boni 1/8/2009 4:24:06 PM
LOL!! there's another one in PTA, who poses as a traffic cop, even dresses like one. i wish though the begging moms with kids on their back could be charged with child abuse. it sickens me that the poor child has to be on the back, in the scotching heat the whole day. she/he cant play around or move around! its not healthy.

Win 1/8/2009 4:25:36 PM
As much as I agree with you I disagree unfortunately. Most of them have now become a pest! Have these white guys in the area, same place, different story, waste of my time! I told them: "see this face, next time you see it again, don't talk to it!" Though I will help the old folks whom are homeless! The youngsters can get a job!!!

Adding my Two cents worth. 1/8/2009 4:26:00 PM
Today, being Thursday is the collection day in my area from Pikitup...just exactly what fun is derived from rummaging through our dirt bins? This morning's guy I noticed was nogal cross-legged and reading salvaged papers!

Pal Mabelane 1/8/2009 4:29:06 PM
was the fact that I got tired of reading about what Cope/ANC are doing or not doing. I got tired of reading about Hamas and Israel...and guess what, like the article above, these are things I see everyday. I would have highlighted the a few more positives...problem is I, like every other News24 use am limited to only 3500 characters. I was going to mention the guy in Turfontein whose placards reads,'Please help with donations of any kind...stopped working due to ulcers'.The ulcers are the to see

anon 1/8/2009 4:30:56 PM
Smash and grab and hijacking increases with beggars on corners as motorists don't pay as much attention to people lurking near their windows. Should you knock someone over you will be up for culpable homicide. I feel sorry for beggars but they are the governments responsibility!

SN 1/8/2009 4:31:03 PM
Coming off Sandton my wifes wipers were lifted and soapy water squirted on the windscreen. She refused to open the door to put the wiper down, for saftey issues - she was forced to drive away not being able to see the road in front of her. This happen to a man on the same highway, he reacted - got off his car, and scolded them. Three of these guys hit him - one with a brick! But thats ok, the cops won't do anything about this - they rather stop innocent law-abiding citizens on the way to work!

Copy Cat 1/8/2009 4:33:47 PM
Copy some R200 notes on one side - fold them and use as bait - works like a charm

Jonas 1/8/2009 4:33:54 PM
The problem is, how do you tell which ones really are desperate and which ones are trying to con you? The south of Jo'burg is starting to look like a rubbish bin, but not only the beggars are to blame for that. I have seen many people, so called sophisticated people, driving fancy cars, dumping the rubbish from their cars in the street.

Callie 1/8/2009 4:34:04 PM
Great idea Thabo!! LMAO!!! Come on people, we need more good humour like this!! Good one!!

Kolkas 1/8/2009 4:44:31 PM
We have a set of traffic lights where teenage boys beg evryday, and everyday at around 7pm, they sit next to the road, right at the traffic light were they were begging and gamble.

johan 1/8/2009 4:45:02 PM
I say it as it is,you make the racial assumptions,shame on you!

JB 1/8/2009 4:45:22 PM
Works every time :-)

Anti-petty 1/8/2009 4:46:01 PM
Oh boy, you should've been a woman being so over-sensitive! The only 'matter' at hand is your typically narrow-minded SA attitude. Get a life!

AC 1/8/2009 4:46:14 PM
If you give money or anything else to a beggar at a robot, you reinforce his resolve to stand there and do it again, whether in need or greed. The sad thing is that they are putting their lives at risk, and beware the law if you bump him. Intersections are not for beggars or street salesmen. Further, the car hijackers and smash and grab bastards also use this a cover for their own deeds, so you affect your safety too.

Anon 1/8/2009 4:46:48 PM
When they come near your windows - do the woman thing - panic and scream as loud as possible - then wind down your window and mace them.

Mojojo 1/8/2009 4:48:32 PM
Twice, on 2 different occations at 2 different traffic lights I offered beggars a job. Both declined with feeble excuses, like: "I can't tomorrow, I'm busy" Some of these people are just lazy. On the other side of that, I have given people a days pay for asking me if I had work for them. These are the guys we need to help.

TedHaller 1/8/2009 4:54:39 PM
You are the one that has turned this into a racial slur. It is quite easy to spot an immigrant if they're black - it's got nothing to do with being a racist. The only 'slur' the author may have commited, is to call him 'illegal'.

Nick 1/8/2009 4:56:40 PM
I have offered a begger a job in my garden and he told me so go get stuffed. some of these guys make over a R1000 a day. i wouldnt mind 31K tax free.

Ginger 1/8/2009 5:06:01 PM
I would rather support animals in need. They don't get a choice.

veeman 1/8/2009 5:10:52 PM
Don't blame the beggars , blame the motorists. These beggars wouldn't be there if begging didn't pay. A single driver giving to beggars is encouraging them to expect the same from other drivers . Give to the charities if you are really sympathetic to these beggars .

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