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Mphatjie Monareng

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'ANC in office, not in power'

by Mphatjie Monareng
2009-11-16 13:07

The problem with the African National Congress is that it is in government without economic muscles. And that, in essence, is merely being in office, not in power.

Even when we talk about an ANC elite, we're in essence talking about a tiny enclave: just one Patrice Motsepe here, one Tokyo Sexwale there. The vast majority of the membership of the ANC is in poverty. Never mind the BMWs and the Mercedes Benzes. It's just bling-bling.

Joe Slovo, the late secretary-general of the South African Communist Party (SACP), explained this dilemma better when, in the early 1990s, he made references to "the historical truism that no ruling class ever gives up all its power voluntarily".

Fifteen years after Nelson Mandela told the nation and the world that "the time for the healing of the wounds has come", South Africa of today is sadly still not so different from the South Africa of the old days. Sometimes it even feels like we're on a reverse gear.

Blacks and whites are still fearful of each other, often going to great lengths to preserve racial rivalries of the past. We like to pretend to outsiders that we are a rainbow nation, "united in diversity", but between the colours of this rainbow rest deep racial disharmony.

Many studies have come to the same conclusion about the make-up of the South African economy: in its entirety, it is still as white-dominated as it was before 1994, and whites are still as privileged - and in some instances even more privileged now than under apartheid.

The ANC's much-criticised economic policies of Affirmative Action and Black Economic Empowerment have failed to hasten the much-fancied redistribution of the country’s wealth. And, ironically, the main critics of these policies happen to be their beneficiaries - the white business establishment and their black elite friends.

Government, even with the best of intentions, is in no position to create genuine employment. But business won't create jobs until the ANC agrees to partner with them in the recreation of a new apartheid, a survival-of-the-fittest society in which money-making and wealth-accumulation precede life, freedom and liberty.
 
Perhaps the former liberation movements made too many concessions at the Congress for Democracy in South Africa (Codesa). They appear to have agreed to leave the apartheid business machinery intact - all this in favour of a speedy and peaceful transition to democracy.

Many beneficiaries of the apartheid regime profess hard work and honesty in public platforms but have never practically embraced any of those ideals in their own lives. They inherit dirty money and want to be protectionist about it.

We need another Codesa, this time to discuss and agree on a new and viable economic model for post-apartheid South Africa. We can't (or shouldn't) carry on pretending as though democracy as we have it is good for everyone. And we should desist from populist rhetoric such as the raging debate on nationalisation of mines.

Slovo spoke about the anti-apartheid movement's "long-term liberation objectives", and these objectives have, to a large extend, been forsaken in the last 15 years in favour of a corrosive environment in which big business and public office bearers agree to engage in "quiet diplomacy" of some sort.

"We inject large amounts into your election campaign and you leave us alone thereafter" seems to be the agreement. And the poor are not sitting and watching. The so-called service delivery protests are a microcosm of what could happen later if the powers-that-be have the capacity to eradicate poverty but choose to procrastinate.

We need a new Codesa to focus on our post-apartheid economic machinery; and we shouldn't wait long. We need genuine transfer of power, not just pomp and ceremony - not just helicopters flying over the Union Buildings and eloquent speeches about freedom.

Mohandas Gandhi once posed a pertinent question: "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"

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jameel 11/16/2009 1:21:47 PM
Your article reads true, the sad reality is that ANC didnt win freedom, it was given. The whites didnt loose freedom, it was merely shared. The biggest problem we, as a nation, is that we need to pull our heads out of the sand. We complain that the ANC is the biggest corrupt faction but we dont lift a single finger to address the evil cause. Is it not time we make a stand for the good of this nation and say enough is enough? Do we dare to look at the future when we all still have blinkers reflecting the sad history of this country? Are we a nation of words only and no guts to stand our man? Or do we just and waving placards when its little elephants being ill-treated because they have no voice?

monyobi 11/16/2009 1:26:37 PM
Thank you very much for this brilliant article. The ANC government should impose heavy taxes for companies and such monies should be distributed to the historicaly disadvanted communities in order to alleviate unequal ownership of resources. The ANC government should impose legislation which gives black employees compulsory equity shares in all companies. Otherwise our people will revolt and loot to those who have ill gotten wealth.

Cynical@author 11/16/2009 1:29:15 PM
Your Appear to Contradict Yourself!

Professor Monareng, just the other day you wrote an article in which you told the forum that the grass is greener here. Now you are singing a different tune and you even say "Sometimes it even feels like we're on a reverse gear." Please make up your mind - is the grass greener here or isn't it?

SimonP 11/16/2009 1:30:16 PM
Mphatjie, once again you highlight the failings of the government over the last 15 odd years, but you still do not condemn them. No doubt you will vote for them again.


H 11/16/2009 1:32:48 PM
Once you have the power then what. You can not buy skills or education or morality.

jt 11/16/2009 1:35:04 PM
The cooment to this one is going to be interesting CANT WAIT LOL

Jay 11/16/2009 1:36:03 PM
Identify the areas where poverty is worst. Then analyse the circumstances and build solutions around the facts.

monyobi 11/16/2009 1:36:21 PM
Thank you very much for this brilliant article. The ANC government should impose heavy taxes for companies and such monies should be distributed to the historicaly disadvanted communities in order to alleviate unequal ownership of resources. The ANC government should impose legislation which gives black employees compulsory equity shares in all companies. Otherwise our people will revolt and loot to those who have ill gotten wealth.

kenda 11/16/2009 1:36:40 PM
Its not that I disagree wholeheartedly with you, its just that maybe we need to take a step back and ask why? Should people not have to work for what they deserve. being poor should not entitle you to money, should it? If all the money in the world was distributed evenly today. Tomorrow there would be poor people. Poor is not a problem, the problem come in when the poor have absolutely NO chance of changing that though hard work. False hope is the currency the poor deal in.

MM Critic 11/16/2009 1:38:29 PM
You are actually fulfilling your own doomed self-fulfilling prophecy. You need to create your own wealth. History is littered with people that have made success with little or nothing to start off with. The mentality of it must be given is inherently flawed and unless the poor make their own destiny they will always be poor. You can blame whites for that, so what must they hand over their money/wealth to the poor and let them squander it?

Re-distribution of wealth is not the answer, education and how to work with money is the answer...

NeilA @ monyobi 11/16/2009 1:39:56 PM
dream on, and just by the way how would you and your thugs decide who has ill gotten wealth and who hasnt,ive worked very hard to get where i am, even with AA and BEE in place so if you wanna come after me for maikng my own money, prepare to be shot!

@monyobi 11/16/2009 1:40:19 PM
In short you are saying take money from those with it and give it to those that dont have it. IT WONT WORK! Bringing everyone down to the lowest common denominator is the simple way, upliftment is the proper way.

John 11/16/2009 1:42:04 PM
Once a communist always a communist - not so Prof??

KCH 11/16/2009 1:46:51 PM
Good Article.. Can't say I agree with you on some points though... I believe the biggest problem is education ... If South Africa had a large pool of SKILLED black workers we would be in a different situation... it sounds you are implying that SA must switch to a more communist economic module? which pretty much has not succeeded anywhere (and no china economical is mostly privately owned see wikipedia).. Seems your a professor but like most professors in my experience should get their head out of the books and get practical experience...

fedup 11/16/2009 1:48:55 PM
i have always said,will always say it. THAT CODESA SHAM sold us out,sometimes you just need to TAKE back and stop these useless talks that amount to nothing!!!

@monyobi 11/16/2009 1:51:31 PM
Once again you want a freebie, God forbid you would have to work hard and achieve something.

BEYONCE 11/16/2009 1:54:28 PM
Brilliant Article...

Cynm 11/16/2009 1:56:32 PM
And whom is the ANC planning to redistribute the wealth to? There aren't enough educated previously disadvantaged personnel in SA amongst whom one can divide it. And it's not a fault of theirs. Maybe if the ANC could start educating some of their new tax batteries their plans would be more successful. But alas they are too occupied with their new Merc's or VIP protection.

Dries 11/16/2009 1:56:55 PM
Quoting a Communist when talking about economic future of our country is like swimming with an anchor tied to your leg for safety! The only positive we get out of our one party state is that we read the Bible more. At least we should!

lloyd macklin 11/16/2009 1:57:38 PM
Rather disturbing article since the response you will elicit is based, as usual, on half truths.Very, very few whites are better of economically as a result of the new dispensation. Lets leave out the value of a more humane dispensation for now.
A great many blacks are now employed by government, very often at inflated salaries. There are many thousands who have benefitted from Government contracts so let us not perpetrate the lie that there are only a few big names. They are noteworthy because they have accumalated as much wealth in a few short years as done after generations by some white families.
Your comment about 'inheriting dirty money' is deeply offensive to many of us we gave up lucrative career paths because of a refusal to support apartheid policies. You owe an apology to the many liberal whites whose asistance made our democracy a reality.

7x57 Mauser 11/16/2009 1:58:07 PM
You communists are unable to grasp the concept of job creation. Your concept of taking food out of one persons mouth and give to another is going to lead to war. Do you really think the minority that you envy and hate so much will idley sit by and watch while you try and steal the food off their plates because you are to corrupt and incompetent to make your own. Dont try and start a war that you where unable to win for the last 350 years we might not be so lenient this time round.

xxx 11/16/2009 1:59:01 PM
With all your fancy writing and tip toeing here and there, what you really are saying is that you are not happy that a company is owned by a white person, even if he worked so hard for his own little fortune, and creating jobs for your brothers? mmm, isn't Escom a fine example of what happens if you don't work/deserve to run a company. Can you imagine if they do that to all the companies, your poor nation will be worst off then they are now. Why don't you move back to Zim, there's now white company or face to look at everyday, and there you can live happily ever after.

ClintWestwood 11/16/2009 2:00:37 PM
The piccanin president has prorposed nationalisation, which is a failure.Ask any African country that nationalized mines post freedom what happened. The govt nedds to fix the education system , the health system, roads , power generation to grow the economy fast.

AndreK 11/16/2009 2:04:36 PM
Professor Monareng, where is the sunset clause? Where does it all end? After the next CODESA and after you’ve squandered your takings, do we then have another CODESA in 15 years time.

Spiderman 11/16/2009 2:06:01 PM
First paragraph of ANC 2009 manifesto:

"We aspire to the creation of a nation united in diversity. It is a goal to which we all aspire and it is the path to achieving our shared goal of a better life for all."

1. United nation covered with hate speeches from it's leaders.

2. Better live for all? Please define the word "ALL" and who is included in this all!

After 15 years, the poor is still poor!

SimonP@monyobi 11/16/2009 2:06:15 PM
Do you want companies tyo close down? Higher taxes and give the company away? That ridiculous idea has worked where? NOWHERE!

sobeit 11/16/2009 2:07:27 PM
SA could have already been Africa's version of one of the Asian Tigers, were it not for the ANC's shameless corruption and nepotism. By the way, was it communism or capitalist principles that allowed the Tigers to achieve unprecedented growth? Maybe Mr. Mugabe would care to elaborate, his policies have surely uplifted his people enormously, is this what you envisage for us? As for the racial divide widening I suggest you consult with the ANC and its allies on that one, seeing as they are responsible for it with their racist claptrap.

chantal 11/16/2009 2:08:04 PM
First of all a government should never be ín 'Power' they do the bidding of the people, they are our servants not our masters. Second how can a GDP of 400 Billion Dollars not be enough economic clout?

Poor Mentality 11/16/2009 2:11:26 PM
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach of man to fish and he will never go hungry.

The same saying applies to your article. Give the poor the wealth of the rich and they will just spend it all, however teach them to generate their own wealth and they will not be poor.

GregO 11/16/2009 2:12:09 PM
God only helps those who help themselves.

Thabo 11/16/2009 2:12:44 PM
So what you are saying is, let’s take the white man's money, job and land and give it to the poor. My friend, jobs, money, skill and especially the skill needed for farming, is not something you magically acquire when you get a job or money. You will destroy this country with you backwards communist mentality, while those same white people you blame for your people’s misery will move to a place where their skill are being appreciated. Stop begging and start evolving…

jd 11/16/2009 2:14:17 PM
Redistribution of wealth is not something that can ever be enforced. logistics like AA can create a slipstream, but it needs to move on its own. Meaning people need to better themselves. If you TAKE anything from anyone, you will kill the golden goose and only eat for a day. Fact. Test it.

lesedi 11/16/2009 2:14:49 PM
@prof.
I am sorry to say most of our leaders had money flashed in front of them before they could re-read that codesa thing (including Mandela) . even if a mass education programme was to be carried out , were will you find work fo all the graduates . The same randlords who controlled the economy in the times of the aparthied clowns are the ones who still have a strong grip in this country . I for one do not think from my strong analysis thaat nationilisation of some mines and mass education would be a bad idea , and I think someone is erging Julias on because its one of the only way out for the African person .

jd 11/16/2009 2:15:10 PM
Government tested Godsell and lost.

JA 11/16/2009 2:15:55 PM
Before people make stupid comments, they should look at the rest of Africa and take stock of how these countries got to the state they are in.stop blaming whites for all the wrongs and poverty, this country had a well functioning machinery in place and everything got done - all we have to do is maintain and improve, but it seems that we cant maintain standards or values do you think that those that build good business over the years had no brains, that because they have a white skin it just happened.don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs and creates jobs, wealth to pay taxes and are prepared to help re-build whatever needs to be rebuild, we need people to start to look at each other and say we are South Africans and say we are in this together and we are going to make our country an example to the World in the way we move foward, not by taking what belongs to someone else.

Viparo 11/16/2009 2:18:31 PM
@Fedup -> Take back what? Take back what you didn't build or work for? That isn't taking back, that's stealing, which I'm sure you're familiar with. You can take back everything you contributed to this country, which is nothing. You had no financial input to what stands in this country today, yet you feel it belongs to you? Why? If everything the colonizers did is so terrible to you, what are you doing in front of a computer? Go back to your grass hut, buy 5 cows and go live the African dream.

Flip 11/16/2009 2:20:05 PM
I enjoyed your article. The solution to our economic situation isn't communism but socialism. The ANC is in power and have the means to implement massive training schemes for our youth and the unemployed. Israel is indeed a very good example for us to follow.

Charles 11/16/2009 2:21:36 PM
Biggest mistake this country has is giving things for free. No one ever learns by receiving handouts. Secondly the majority population breed like flies and thus is why you have so many jobless people with no morals or dignity. And now you want to take the people that work hard everyday of there lives to pay for these illiterate people that sit on there fat assess every day making more baby’s which they cant care for.
All that will happen is the people working there assess off everyday will stop doing so or leave the country, and the people sitting at home will just carry on doing so. Great solution, really hope that you don’t teach young minds this communistic crap, go to Russia or Korea and spew your rubbish there, communism has never worked anywhere and will never work.

foodforthought 11/16/2009 2:21:55 PM
very interesting article, just one key thing i think people must note...goverments(and all not any specific one) are put into SERVICE, not power. Yes, along with that service comes power, but they should not be there for it, they should be there because the want to SERVE the people. I think that is our Governments major fallacy.

H 11/16/2009 2:25:18 PM
'But business won't create jobs until the ANC agrees to partner with them in the recreation of a new apartheid, a survival-of-the-fittest society in which money-making and wealth-accumulation precede life, freedom and liberty.'

What bull! Wealth creation - herein lies the key instead of theft through legislation

fedup 11/16/2009 2:26:49 PM
@ Viparo, you've just proved my point!!!

juan@author 11/16/2009 2:28:22 PM
Your a Communist aren't you?

RobotFood 11/16/2009 2:29:42 PM
Don't Give them the Fish, teach the previously disadvantage how to fish. Monyobi, Once the supporters splashed away there given money, where is the next bag going to come from? Your idea is unsustainable, Luckily President Zuma understands this and have, thus, not implemented it. Now you force me to believe that you didn't pass std 3. Not everybody is smart enough to be rich, But with proper education a lot more people will be.

Sinudeity @monyobi 11/16/2009 2:33:18 PM
How about, instead of being 'given' shares or ownership in companies... how about, starting your own businesses? Why are South Africans so dependent on whites and their companies? Theres startup capital required, and risk. What is the government doing to support startups? As for taxing, South Africans are already being taxed to death, you just want to further add on that? Whats the point in more taxes, nationalisation of mines, if theres SSSOOO much corruption (R30 BILLION so far).

Vamp 11/16/2009 2:36:46 PM
So what you are saying is, take the money from the people who worked for it and give it to those who refuse to. Interesting view on life you have there :-\

White and proud 11/16/2009 2:36:57 PM
Professor, what you appear to be advocating is a free ride for people who are either incapable, too lazy or just plain dis-inclined to make it on their own.
Strange that I don't remember being "previously advantaged" as a young man. I worked very hard for the few modest possessions that I have and have a feeling of accomplishment and contentment that far wealthier people don't appear to have.
Suggest that you ask your kinfolk to get off their behinds, to stop complaining and to put in an honest day's work for a change. It would help make the country a better place for us all.

belief 11/16/2009 2:39:01 PM
a wise man once said: "give a hungry man a fish and he will no longer be hungry for a day, teach a hungry man how to fish and he will never be hungry again". The answer is not in the redistribution of wealth, that will only create more "hunger" once all the wealth is gone, however teach a nation how to "feed" themselves and you will have learnt self sustainability despite the color of your skin, previously disadvantaged or not. Redistribution only leads to greed and want of more - where then do you finally draw the line? One more thing to consider: if you redistribute the wealth and the wealthy become middle class or poor surely then by the same standards that made the poor wealthy, the once wealthy now poor can claim the same? The question there is, when the roles are reversed, will the once poor now wealthy people extend the same courtesy that they were once given. I think we can honestly all say that the answer in that case is no.

Lesedi 11/16/2009 2:43:01 PM
@Mphatjie Monareng.
big business is greedy and ruthless . most of the white population that always jump around like some crazy mountain goats at the words aa and BEE dont realise that their boieties in England and their madalas of aparthied were the ones who came up with this idea . The truth is that the pie in SA is not as big as most illusionists make people believe . The only solution that works in SA is opening up other avenues of the economy . SA capital is still ruled by old money , and they dictate what policy the ANC takes .

Sunshine 11/16/2009 2:44:05 PM
How 'bout this? You start fostering an attitude of entrepreneurship among yourselves (black people) instead of the usual entitlement attitude that most of you have now?

sido 11/16/2009 2:44:19 PM
@myonbi - the fist thing you must do is to loose your handout mentality - no business got to where it is today without hard work - if we give people shares and give them jobs - what are we going to live from???? can they do the work and will the value of the shares increase if there is no business - you can blame the whites all you want - at least they know how to do business

Nick 11/16/2009 2:46:03 PM
The sad thing is, this is what 'Africans' have tried throughout Africa and look at the result. The portuguese were chased away from Mozambique which was a once thriving successful country. Look at it now, still struggling years after a civil war. Buildings left in ruin and very little infrastructure to speak of. Zimbabwe is another one we dont even need to talk about as it is always in the news. The list goes on. So will you never learn?

anna 11/16/2009 2:46:36 PM
I agree with some points, but it's an error to assume that money = power. We need to show that we are managing the money we have before we get more - or else only the waste will increase, and with it, the frustration levels. What is required are will, boundaries, and the immediate and thorough enforcement of those boundaries. And something else - goodwill.

TLR 11/16/2009 2:49:51 PM
Good Article but don't blame business for wrongs! They carry this country with job creation and future prosperity.
- "Enjoy the fruits of the country" is open for everyone. a successfull business is a hard-owned entity taking a lot of long hours and risks...it was not given to anyone...it was earned with hard work.

How can you expect to set right 300 years of oppression within only 15 years of transformation, you are unrealistic to expect that. Whealth is not sustainable if it is just given (look at farms redistributed= disaster), it will take time to gain the necessary know-how...dont kill the business goose that is laying the golden eggs my friend..job creation for all..transformation in parallel

Dries 11/16/2009 2:50:52 PM
If this Professors suggestion gets implemented, then South Africa truly will have many more black and white billionaires, just like Zimbabwe. They say a Professors do not retire, they just loses his faculties…

Warren 11/16/2009 2:54:02 PM
Why have we stopped family planning we should be teaching our children to have small families not more than 2 at the most 3 children surely if you are poor you cannot have children look to china they enforced a scheme, we should only have large families if we can afford it, my wife and i are saving and planning for just one child and sitll dont know if we can afford it.. but you see the government paying with grants to have more children.

Monyobi 11/16/2009 2:54:44 PM
When are you going to realise, increased taxes are there to 1. replace money stolen by corrupt politicians 2. To ensure a better life for those same politicians.
If tax money was used correctly there would be no need for further tax rises.
As for GIVING away shares, how about working for the shares, work hard, earn well and invest - a concept alien to Africans.

Master_P 11/16/2009 2:55:13 PM
The fact remains that Africans will remain in poverty so long as the issue of land redistribution and other transformational measures are swept under the carpet. Not so long ago we woke-up to the news that the deadline of the transfer of substantial land to the hands of blacks has been shifted from 2015 to 2025. The ANC is finding it difficult to deal with this issue decisively. The ANC fears a situation that took place in our neighbouring state "Zim" if they become decisive and transfer the land back to its rightful owners "blacks" without subjecting these transactions to the so called "Markets". The "Willing buyer will seller" concept has never worked, it was tried in Zim and it failed dismally as the land was exobirtantly priced for government to finance as is the case here. It is therefore unsurprising that the Zims decided to take what rightfully belonged to them by force. Though the Zim process was flawed and was not managed properly, as a true African one finds it difficult to blame them totally as they were fed-up of waiting in vain. Wealth in Africa is inextricably linked to land - our SA GDP derives a lot of gain through natural resources and much of this is still in the hands of the settler - this is pathetic. Blacks are still invariably treated like slaves in their motherland by reason that they are poor.

Ed 11/16/2009 2:55:39 PM
Those who does not study history is doomed to repeat it! Socialism does not and cannot work…ever! Please just take the time and read Ludwig von Mises and FA Hayek. Hayek won a Nobel prize in economics for showing that socialism can never work. The only solution is the free market. And no we don’t currently have a true free market as government always tries to regulate and control. Libertarianism and the free market is the future, the sooner we get there the better!

@MM 11/16/2009 2:58:49 PM
Your problem is you cant shake off the notion you are entitled to job/money, YOU ARE NOT!
There is an undercurrent of racism in this letter.

Arch Nemesis 11/16/2009 3:00:41 PM
We can all pontificate about the wrongs of the past and the present wrongs, but until people stop envying and coveting they will be discontent and seek to take, by any means, what they perceive the haves have. Once obtained they will be discontent ever seeking and wanting more. The answer lies not in any form of redistribution of wealth, but rather in the development of skills, hard work and trust in God.

Inja 11/16/2009 3:04:00 PM
Monyobi is right. The governemnt should impose a new tax to speed up the distribution of wealth to those who were disadvantaged during apartheid. There are many people in SA who benefitted financially through their dealings with the aprtheid government. Even though there are some who disagreed with it, they still enriched themselves. They were on the one hand accumulating wealth and the other hand supposedly opposing aprtheid. Wealth redistribution should start immediatley in order to ensure a better life for the masses!!!!!!!

Maximus Odi @ Monyobi & Mpahtjie & Lesedi 11/16/2009 3:07:40 PM
Why don't you chaps move to Zimbabwe where the mentality which you so eloquently display here is rife. And then when you all sit on worthless Rands, like all those who sit on worthless Zim dollars, and nothing else - who are you going to blame then? Wake-up, Africa is in the mess it is in because of a collective inferiority complex which is its OWN doing. O and should I mention the victim mentality as well or the entitlement mentality or... etc. But no, you guys would rather sit around moaning, growing callouses on your backsides instead of growing them on your hands.

@Master_P 11/16/2009 3:11:06 PM
The land you are referring to was turned into rich farming land by whites. The blacks have taken it and done nothing with it. And if you really wanted to give the land back to the original owners you would have to give it back to the Koi-San. Get an education.

@Master_P 11/16/2009 3:12:17 PM
Willing buyer willing seller was tried in Zim? "Zims decided to take what rightfully belonged to them by force" what exactly were the farm invasions and murders of farmers?
The Lancaster House agreement would have worked if your hero mugabe hadnt broken the contract

Gpurscreepers 11/16/2009 3:16:54 PM
This article reads as a badly disguised admission that BEE and AA don't work. With the oh so original blame whitey added in for good measure. And habit, most likely.

In the 28 years I've been on this planet 16 have been under the 'freedom' of BEE and AA. In the other 12 I can promise you, my friend, we did not just go to an ATM and punch in the amount of money we wanted it to spit out, couteousy of our evil forefathers who were responsible for everything from the common cold to the extinction of the dinosaurs.

7x57 Mauser @ Master P 11/16/2009 3:28:02 PM
Ha-ha. You are all the same. Just because you dont have a written history it doesnt mean you can make it up as you go along.You can get all the land in the world and your family would still die of famine.Dont for a second think this is Zim. Dont come crying racism when you get shot off the white mans legally and rightfull owned land.

Boerseun 11/16/2009 3:28:23 PM
Prof, with such advice coming from someone like you, just this: May you and your people get their just reward and keep it. It will be really small, but then, that's what you advocate.

ronin 11/16/2009 3:32:14 PM
The heathens are at it again! hahaha

TREV@MONYOBI 11/16/2009 3:47:08 PM
your other name wouldn't be Mugabe. Have you ever heard of Zimbabwe

Angus 11/16/2009 4:17:09 PM
It should read: ANC IN POWER NOT IN OFFICE.

Chegoane Mabelane 11/16/2009 4:49:11 PM
@Mphatjie Monareng
Your articles keeps improving day by day. You are almost spot on these days, keep it up! I like it when you tell the truth and not romanticise it.

tessa 11/16/2009 4:56:37 PM
reading everyones comments makes me so sad.
fighting over land that no one owns and will lose soon when the world would reset itself and exstinct human beings and still we fight over money.lol.
its a shame.

ownrighforthousands 11/16/2009 5:21:14 PM
What can you do with the average IQ 67, where
Mphatjie Monareng and Professor Monareng is probably the most smart ones and can type and write on the computer? I can just imagine the branes of the rest, who listen to that cr*p and garbage. The scary thing is they are believing to ppl like Professor Monareng, Zuma, Malema....Eventually they will take it, and Afrika will take it from them...
Every society has retards.
Everyone can't be smart.

NvV 11/16/2009 6:05:01 PM
The Codesa deal was to protect big business with a compromise of affirmative action. Business bought time by employing affirmatively while retaining cream of old resources and dumping the rest. You end up with power still in big business hands and most politicians in their pockets.

Perhaps we should have had an agreement that every productive previously advantaged person is given the task to train and transfer knowledge to a selected previously disadvantaged person – subsidised by the state obviously. Once completed both will be productive and could keep their jobs without strings attached and continue contributing to the economy. That kind of integration can also serve as nation building unlike the smash and grab culture we are creating currently. Ok it may not work but leaving these voids in knowledge to be filled by ill prepared newcomers calls for disaster.

It would also help if politicians preach peaceful coexistence rather than stir already moody relations. But the momentum is past Codesa-fixes and now it is the law of the jungle that counts.

Ouklip 11/16/2009 6:09:57 PM
The quickest route to starvation is weaqlth distribition. The Afrikaner also never had the economic power of SA during the time the Nats was in office.

Mike 11/16/2009 7:25:38 PM
More like the ANC are in power, but not in the office!

Paolo 11/16/2009 8:07:05 PM
Taking money away from the historically advantaged will just drive them out of the country and return South Africa to the 1800's. What actually needs to be focused on is socialized education programs that work. Give everyone the education and chance to make a success of themselves. What happens after that is up to them. You cannot hope to create an equal society by just giving money to people. All you will do is create the impression that work is not required, the government will look after you.

craig 11/16/2009 8:50:37 PM
survival of the fitest its the way of nature

W 11/16/2009 9:39:55 PM
As I did not benefit under apartheit, I must be one of the disadvantaged. I'm white but don't know which queue to join for my share, please advise

Stephen 11/16/2009 10:08:35 PM
I've said this before, the government is there to govern, not to own. They don't own our tax or out land, and should stop taking advantage of it's power. And Sars should be audited by an independent company - let's really see what they're doing with our money.

Cracker 11/16/2009 10:32:47 PM
There are almost 50 million people in South Africa. To the land distributors: Which of the 50 million will each get a piece of land, OK, just the adult portion of the population?

Crit 11/16/2009 10:36:52 PM
We constantly see these articles about economy controlled like this and that blah blah. Charity begins at home, how about the PEOPLE realizing that all the ANC are doing is squandering money which could be put to the use of creating jobs and uplifting the poor. A certain R60bn arms deal comes to mind which was merely a smoke screen to loot money from the taxpayers. So the comment in the article about the people looting holds little weight when the top dogs have already and continue to do that in any case. The people should get their pound of flesh from these cronies running the show and lining their pockets. When you start commenting about things being taken by force, you indicate that you are no better than the pig architects of apartheid AND you are setting SA up to be the next Zimbabwe. Good luck with that

david 11/17/2009 12:12:46 AM
fear and hate still exist at our bossom. in some big companies there is not even one black man in the executive board only politician terned bussiness man get white partners in form of BEE as their oun politician as a political reparation. my father died in struggle against apratheid.we are still not healed but his coligue have betrayed the course in favour of being rich.it is really sad. we should have had a fight for this lebaration not reconciliation.all over the world liberation of mind came with blood on both side,we are only one who lost. those mandelas and co are trator of leberation we are not lebarated yet.

Chicken runner @ Monyobi, etc 11/17/2009 12:39:13 AM
You just don’t get it do you. By imposing heavy taxes on business and giving the money to the poor, you’ll just encourage business owners to either dodge the system and not pay taxes, or shut up shop and look elsewhere (overseas). Where will you get your free handouts from then? Why on earth would businesses willingly work their arses off to support the lazy? It doesn’t work that way.

You can’t just give poor people money and expect them to prosper - it’s about educating people to make their own, or build on what they have. And this also doesn’t happen by giving people compulsory equity in companies. Equity in companies come from investment, which is what helps the company to prosper in the first place.

My goodness, you just don't get it man.

Joe 11/17/2009 12:48:48 AM
The ANC mis-governance crime organization has in about 15 years NEVER EVER worked as hard to achieve success as the 'previous government'.
It took A LOT of hard work, dedication and sacrifice to build South Africa, and hard work, dedication and sacrifice are just 3 of the many many things the ANC lacks entirely.

Under ANC rule, South Africa will NEVER prosper again. Never ever my friends, never ever again.

Alibaba 11/17/2009 2:24:03 AM
Here we go again with the "settler", "colonists", "take back what is rightfully theirs". Using these words expose the user to be an empty headed ideologist with absolutely zilch ability or intent to provide any constructive input in solving anything. Africa for the Africans, but then don't beg the world to save you after you've stuffed it up...

Dries 11/17/2009 5:50:48 AM
To some up what the author is saying: "Give a man food... and feed him for a day, teach him how to steal and hijack what he did not work for and make him"... a parasite for a lifetime...

Paul Baines 11/17/2009 6:13:46 AM
The late Dr. Adrian Rogers (USA), 1931 to 2005 once said:-

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government
does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for; that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."

@ Lloyd Macklin 11/17/2009 7:06:18 AM
The primary thing that made our democracy a reality was fear of retribution from the masses-such as the ones that happened in Rhodesia,Mozambique,Kenya(Mau Mau) etc.Please go and do your research.

jorene 11/17/2009 7:47:06 AM
The taxpayers of this country pay taxes so that the Government can uplift and build this country so why must the wealth of those that have worked very hard for what they have today be distributed. It is about time that every citizen takes responsibility for their own lives. Stop waiting for handouts!!!

Kaltie 11/17/2009 7:55:43 AM
Untill Zuma and each and every corrupt person is charged, convicted and sentenced, and kept in jail, corruption will always be rife. Corruption will be the sole reason for the death of SA.

Mc 11/17/2009 8:06:59 AM
On the one hand I agree that the ANC has and is failing. However I do find you article a little one-sided. I was 5 when my father left. He left me, my brother and my housewife mother. For years we scrounged. A can of beef and half a loaf of bread for a week. We had nothing but still managed to get buy. With AA it was hard to get a job. But eventually I did. I sold Cell phones at Game. Used that money to further my education and my mom helped as much as she could. Those where hard times. Work in the day and study at night with not much money for food. Got my qualifications. Today I’m sitting pretty. This misconception that whites got everything on a silver platter is pure nonsense. There were poor whites and today there are even more. Today it’s even harder for the currently disadvantaged whites to pull themselves out of the gutter. Hopefully this situation will have some positive side effects for the white community but only time will tell.

kolobe 11/17/2009 8:11:46 AM
a lot mention working hard.come on now...you never worked for the health you have.the system did

whoa 11/17/2009 8:32:26 AM
Read Monyobi's reply and weep. This is the typical, communistic, militant, narrow minded, rebel mentality that is unfortunately the legacy of Africa today! He talks about revolution and looting and I guess perhaps a ZANU-PF warlord prototype who never worked a hard day in his life and is the example of Africa that distracts investment and fuels corruption. Monyobi are you Malema?

Andrew Pienaar 11/17/2009 9:19:36 AM
@MM, I really enjoyed your article and point of view, and pity those that are interpreting it as racist.

terrence 11/17/2009 9:24:23 AM
Inasmuch as this article is well written with elements of truth that lie in it, we need to realize that we are a growing country of 14 years. We are always trying to be @ number one with all we profess to be. sadly the growth that is growing within is deemed as non-growth some of the strongest trees spend many years growing roots with no showing on top soil that there is growth at all forgetting the little seed planted below and its potential to sprout and provide comfort for all around it. We are that tree we are growing, lets have faith in this regard lets have hope and lets have charity one to another regardless of our differences (that are many) we can accomplish that which we set out to accomplish the community that we love to portray to the world this charity the pure love of Christ will help us become victors. I love this Country I respect the inhabitants of it and trust in their abilities We think we are little ducks that are truly swans. Hope publications and articles will aid in building this country and not try yo uproot the growth of the roots to see progress.

Kriesis 11/17/2009 9:58:31 AM
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, No one wants poverty in this country, its bad for everyone.. But "redistribution of the country’s wealth" as you call it will be like giving a man a fish instead of teaching him how to fish. The government should work for the country, and use our taxes to improve our lives, not spend it on whatever they fancy.Work on the country's education, get water and power to those in need. In many ways the big businesses in South Africa is whats keeping South Africa afloat, they bring money into the country. Dont let your ignorance blind you.

Ed 11/17/2009 10:20:53 AM
Agreed we need better education, but socialized education is not the answer. No government in the history of humanity can run anything as good as free market. Competition drives down prices and increases quality and value, this is a fact. Why would you think that some politician knows better than you what YOU need? This applies to every single government program; in summary we DON’T need it.

Reduce the size of government by privatizing everything; give the people back their money. We can totally abolish all individual income tax and reduce most other taxes. Let the consumers choose where and how they want to spend their money. I’ll reiterate why do people think politicians know better than the individual themselves?? The answer is they don’t, they never have and the never will. As each of us is different we all want different things in life. We should be able to live our lives as WE see fit.

If this is appealing to you, than what you are looking for is libertarianism and free market economics. There is a growing movement towards these ideals, as people all over the world are getting fed up with this totalitarian government sickness. In the US the fight is lead by Ron Paul and it is gaining traction, check out their website http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

Governments should work for us; they should not get to dictate to us how we get to live our lives!!

@Monyobi 11/17/2009 11:10:27 AM
For 15 years the ANC had the chance to educate the people, they did not succeed. If you give an uneducated person all the money in the world, it will be gone very soon. Plus after the ANC took their share, there will be nothing left for the people. So then you will have poor business going bankrupt because of the heavy taxes and soon you will have poor people again. Brilliant plan Monyobi! Get some education

Henk 11/17/2009 11:41:53 AM
Here we go again. Give to us, it's rightfully ours. Tax those with money, give it to those who don't. How long do you expect companies to be around when that's the tax situation? Why not rather up sticks and go invest in some other country that's business-friendly? And when the companies close the one after the other, the current poverty levels will be a walk in the park compared to the levels you will see then. Why is it that people can be so dumb? Pull your head out your arse and "kom by, boetie". The world is not as simple as you imagine it to be.

Ant 11/17/2009 12:07:50 PM
I just don't get the logic behind all of this . The ANC don't deliver while the fat cats are getting fatter . The people complain about service delivery by the party they voted into power.........yet with the next election these sheep can' wait to get into line and re-elect the ANC . Maybe that is why the ANC aren't promoting education as they know that people will start to think differently once they are educated . So here is to the next 15 years of poor service delivery while our resources are being drained by the greedy !!!!!

Graham 11/17/2009 12:56:21 PM
Wilbur Smith once quoted," There are monsters and there are heroes, but most of us are ordinary mortals, caught up in events too turbulant for anyone. Perhaps someday, all we will inherit are the ashes of a once beautiful land."

Robbie 11/17/2009 1:28:18 PM
Hey Prof,talking about getting your money back,why don't you get hold of the university that you were at and ask for your fees back,because you paid for an education and didn't get one....

Logan 11/17/2009 1:43:55 PM
Suffice to say education is the key to getting people out of the poverty they find themselves in. Various stakeholders, businesses, individuals advocate this every day.Government, as the institution that is supposed to educate our kids needs to wake up and make this priority no1. In the same breath, this problem will not be solved by government alone. Business does need to come to the party, we all do, because at the end of the day it affects all of us(through crime for example). Not everyone can make it to varsity, we may need more apprenticeship, minor skills training, etc. But Business and government both need to seek solutions to solve both the education and skills levels. Pointing fingers is going to leave in exactly the same boat 16 years further down the line.

wayne 11/17/2009 1:50:18 PM
The biggest lesson to learn is that "you cannot grab the opportunities in the future with arms and hands full of the past". In using the PAST as an excuse not to DO THING the future will pass you by (including the gains) and the circle simply continues. Blame, no action, miss out; blame, no action, miss out; etc....

@Kolobe 11/17/2009 2:23:58 PM
You are right - I never worked for my health, that was God sent, but my wealth is another story, I earn every cent by hard work only. Every day I work 12 hours, and every day I have more than you, because I make it myself

GrownUpArmWhiteAfrikaansPerson 11/17/2009 2:38:12 PM
@Lesedi - grow up, go back to school, learn how to spell and then only then, maybe venture out to air your point of view which is hogwash ... we were not brought up however poor we were to stand with cupped hands and rub our belly claiming to be hungry - we had to make do with what we had and got and be greatful for it - even hand-me-down clothes we had to make do with, no designer label or fashion clothes, etc.

DianaB 11/18/2009 7:20:54 AM
I didn't even bother to finish reading the article as the AA policies have riled me up so badly. Would some bright spark please explain to me, as a woman in my 40's and apparently right up there among the top of the "previously disadvantaged" foodchain - how is AA not racism in reverse?????
I have experienced this constantly over the last 15 years and am fed up and the next time I'm told not to bother to apply for a position because I'm white and don't fit the employment equity profile, you can be damn sure I will take it up with the constitutional courts and the human rights commission. I am sick of these ridiculous policies that do not allow the best person for the job, irrespective or race, creed etc to actually get the job. I have even been insulted by asking to train an AA appointment whom I would then have to report to - I refused and guess what, besides my being victimised, the AA appointment left before a year was up because he had a better offer. These so-called AA appointments have no loyalty to the companies that appoint them!
What a load of bollocks!

Mtha 11/18/2009 12:05:19 PM
To the writer, you are quite correct in many instances in your article. For example when saying that Government can not create employment and act in most instances as an Administrator. Parastals are now focused on profit .e.g Telkom etc and these institution and goverment department can only create so much jobs. The onus therefore lies with individuals or the Private sector to create jobs. As you may be well aware that Corporates are there for profits or maximasation of returns and can only create so much jobs. Also with SA moving from labour intensive programs to a highly skilled base functionalities that posed a problem to a majority that is black and unskilled . One can therefore profess that Skill upgrade should be one of government priorities which will bring this grouping to be economically active. And this proposed route is by no means simply it might a generation or more to accomplish. To paint a blink future on the post 1994 achievement may be erronous given the rise of standards of many black diamonds and the Motsepe's. With that said we should not just give up on the Masses on the brink of poverty, One is tempted to say that Codesa was a sell out and we do not need another Bishop Tutu and Mandela for their rhetoric "Reconcillition BS" but the reality is we did not entirely defeat the white people and this is the comprise we must live with. Atleast we can now have a discussion in a free platform on issues affecting all of us. It would have been utopia to achive all of this in 15 years, so we will still see black casualities in our endevour in achieving true freedom. The empowered blacks should empower other blacks.

Rafiki 11/18/2009 3:49:25 PM
@Wayne, that is the most fantastic verse I have read in ages. I hope one or two others take a note from it, including the Prof. Sadly we live in a society that wants everything for free based on the philosophy that "We deserve it because of what you have done to us" We need to just look to the entire North of our borders to see how that mindset has corrected the so called evils of colonialism and how the poor are now prospering. It saddens me that a supposed intellectual person has the ordacity to write an article like this..... brainless !!!

@monyobi 11/19/2009 10:36:16 AM
even the bible disagrees with spoon feeding. Look at what happened with those matriculants,who are so lazy to study expecting to be given the answers without working hard. It all starts at a lower level and we'll endup with adults that want freebies in future

Sameoldpoorme 11/19/2009 5:49:51 PM
I work hard for my money. Why should I give it away?
I worked three jobs to pay my way through university, the poor burn their education facilities down (smart move!)

As for taxation. I pay 40%, my company pays 25% I pay 14%vat on everything I buy. We pay fuel tax, sin tax, airport tax, municipal tax on properties, death tax, road tax etc etc.
I have no children and live within my means, the poor have many children which my tax support.
Why?
I would prefer my tax to go the the National Parks Board!
Mphatji, your principals are sound, but will never work in the real world.
I ask you again; I work hard for my money, why should I give it away?

Handouts and lazeyness are an African trend. Japan, Russia and Europe were almost destroyed between 1939 and 1945. Where are they now?
Africa gained independance and inherited working infrastructure between 1955 to 1994, where are they now?

By the way, CODESA was the Apartheid gvt comming to their senses and trying to making amends for what they did, it was never a victory on the part of a terrorist movement, the only movemt thay were, and still are capable of is a bowl movement. (have you smelt the stink eminating from parliment recently?)

Andre 11/21/2009 11:37:19 AM
Well said Mr PAUL Baites.
AND TO THINK THIS PROF IS ONE OF THE FEW EDUCATED ONES, LORD HAVE MERCY...

Realist 11/21/2009 12:08:36 PM
The explorers should have turned their ships away when sighting Africa, I'm sure had they known what we now know, Africa indeed would have been left for the 'Africans'.

Greg 11/21/2009 1:28:18 PM
The more change the more they stay the same. (incompetence, Lack of Will, Corruption in Government etc. etc. etc.)
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