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Hypocrite Proteas supporters

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2009-01-08 08:09

Freshly Ground, News24 User

Right, I've got to get this off my chest. It's been bugging me for a while.

I have written articles in the past extolling the virtues of Graeme Smith and what an exceptional leader and player he is. The comments in the column at the bottom of this page have always being the same, scathing of him.

For some reason South African cricket supporters (there's a joke) have had no time for Smith. Now that we have won a test series in Australia all the comments are now along the lines of "I was wrong about Smith in the past, but I'm now a fan..." and suddenly Smith is now your new hero!

Hypocrites. South Africa has not lost a Test Match series since July 2006. Over that period Smith and Arthur (yes folks you gleefully called him "Mickey Mouse") have forged one the best test cricket teams on the planet. During that period what support did you give them? None.

The recriminations and accusations spewed from your "insightful" observations were mind numbing. Just a few months ago everyone was moaning about how unfit the team was and that they would be given a hiding by the Australians, we apparently lacked mental strength and would crumble at the first sign of pressure?

As for the columnists on News24. You make it hard to be a true supporter.

Not an iota of respect has been given to Graeme Smith by you guys over the last few years. Leading up to the series there was an overriding stench of pessimism. We don't have the bowlers or mental strength you said.

"History is against South Africa winning in Australia," you said. If history was against us winning then we shouldn't have bothered to pitch up for a game, according to your logic. Our tail can't make runs, Steyn and Morkel have no experience in Australia, we don't have the bowling to take 20 wickets in match, on and on it went.

Now I have to read this, courtesy of Arthur Turner: "Yes, like many other South Africans, I had my doubts about winning the series and I am delighted to have been proved wrong. These doubts were based on sound cricket principles and not with the benefit of hindsight or emotion. I was no different to over fifty percent of the readers who voted on Sport 24's survey regarding the series result."

Excuse me? Mr Turner all of your articles prior to the tour were written with the benefit of hindsight and emotion. The "sound" cricket principles you mention were in fact unsound. How could you not back a team that has been undefeated in a test series for two and a half years?

As for the rest of you fickle supporters, you owe Graeme Smith a huge apology.

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Jim 1/8/2009 8:16:26 AM
I couldnn't agree more

LRob 1/8/2009 8:18:38 AM
I aways thought Smith was a bit of a twit BUT am happy to apologise now. His work in Aus was great and the team did a great job. To the whole team, great effort and I am happy to let the Aussies have their last 10 balls!

Gareth Roberts 1/8/2009 8:18:40 AM
I totally agree with you, I was one of those people who 'had no time for Smith'. I didn't like his attitude and I didn't think that he made the best decisions. Now that we've klapped the Aussies I'm starting to think differently. I think that Smith has grown up as a leader. I also think that we've got a better side than anyone else at the moment, and that guys like Dale, Hashim, AB and Paul are also getting better with every match. So - Sorry for not believing in you Smithie

Sam 1/8/2009 8:21:50 AM
There were certain things I did not like about Biff in the past and Gibbs and others. That does not make anyone a hypocrite. It seems like he has changed and the team has changed. You have new players there now. However I have always and will always support my National Teams. I always had hope for beating the Ausies and now you can stop saying I told you so like a little boy. Lets just enjoy the bright future we are faced with.

Anthony 1/8/2009 8:22:38 AM
I couldn't agree more! I have had argument after argument with people ranging from the office to my local pub about Graeme Smith. The one question I'd catch these 'supporters' out on is why they think Graeme Smith is a bad captain? What facts could they provide to back up their irrational feelings towards Graeme? Frankly, none! "He's arrogant" I'd hear or "he shoots his mouth off". These are the hard facts? It seems you have to have a pleasant personality to win SA fans over these days.

Chazz 1/8/2009 8:23:21 AM
I don't actually see your point and your obvious frustration with the situation makes no sense. People have opinions and in this case these opinions were changed by Graeme stepping up and growing up. This took 4 years and you should actually celebrate the fact that he did that. Why are you upset? Did he not phone you to say thank you for sticking with him? Sorry about that, I will tell him next time I see him. The fans changing their minds is good yes?

AJ 1/8/2009 8:23:34 AM
Dont take it so seriously, that's what sports supporters do. Hard on their teams in the lean times and basking in the glory of their achivements in the good times. Unhappy times make you appreciate the good ones. At any rate thanks for a non-political article for a change!

sharon 1/8/2009 8:25:26 AM
I thought he was a doos then and I think he is a doos now. Arrogant and irritating. Plays decently for 5% of the time and the rest of the time he is a waste.

Point Blank 1/8/2009 8:25:55 AM
He went out there for personal glory that's all, he knew the response he would get, he knew the press would fall over themselves and glorify him. He did it for himself man..... don't worry I'm only joking, I have no problem with Smith I have always thought he was a captain even though he has been through some tough times!

greggo 1/8/2009 8:26:24 AM
and I apologise.

Mike Hunt 1/8/2009 8:28:57 AM
I agree 100% with your posting - and hat's off to news24 for publishing it. I have long held the notion that there is no-one better suited for the captaincy than Biff. GR8 that he has now matured into a far more mature person - this with his single minded approach to cricket and natural talent makes him a force to be reckoned with. Mickey Arthur has also proven his doubters wrong.

psycobabble 1/8/2009 8:30:06 AM
Sorry Greame.You're a hero.But I still think only a mother could love that face!Oh yes also nice to see you dont put a whole packet of beechies in your mouth these days.Good one,nothing worse than being shown what you're eating with an open mouth.

Rio 1/8/2009 8:30:08 AM
Hats off to Graeme Smith for his bravery and efforts! i must admit i was one of those that didnt like him, and to an extent still dont.... however great to see him maturing more now than say a year ago ... good for SA cricket, and he has a good unit to support him, however regardin him as one of the greatest captains, is a long way off .. Hansie still had the mastermind , still was the best captain !

VG 1/8/2009 8:30:23 AM
"When the facts change,I change my mind" said Keynes. There's nothing hypocritical about changing your mind in the face of changing circumstance. History was against the Proteas winning in Aus - that was a fact. Thankfully, it's now a fallacy. Rather than ranting and raving (while silently patting yourself on the back for being right), just be glad that our team has delivered the goods and made us all Proudly SAfrican.

Vision 1/8/2009 8:32:54 AM
I've always been a great supporter of Graham and was in England when he scored his two double tons. Back then you could see he was something special and I have no doubt he still haunts Nassers dreams. Now for the future I recon Graham will become one of crickets all time great captains even surpassing Steve Waugh in runs and test victories!

SA Supporter 1/8/2009 8:33:34 AM
I still think if they're playing poorly they should be criticised. They've achieved the impossible over there, but would that have been done if the supporters hadn't demanded the best from our team? I'll never stop supporting them if they hit a slump, but I won't give them a pat on the shoulder and tell them losing's OK.

Lithium 1/8/2009 8:34:16 AM
Must admit, he is a good captain and turned the team around, but I still don't like him.

Filemon 1/8/2009 8:34:36 AM
and he is a ball watcher when it comes to field placings. He also tends to shoot his mouth. But I have never had doubts about his ability to bat and he turns a ball more than our specialist spinners. Like Francois Pienaar, it takes a special person to combine talent and political interference to mould a team and that is why he was made captain. I think the Proteas became a unified team when Nel was dropped on race for Langeveld and Langeveld withdrew. The players showed solidarity as a team.

Mike F 1/8/2009 8:35:57 AM
they do not hold a monopoly of knowledge of the game & guarantee of success 4 SA cricket. The likes of Kepler Wessels, Clive Rice, Vinnige Fanie were great cricketers in their time, but their sourness at not being considered for positions in the current cricket setup always filters through in their negative comments about SA cricket. Their silence is deafening at the success of SA in India, England & Australia. Understanding the dynamics of current SA is vital 4 positive contribution to SA sports

Freddie 1/8/2009 8:36:58 AM
My aplogies, he earned my respect in Australia

siswe 1/8/2009 8:36:59 AM
But firstly, Freshly Ground, you need to apologise for taking up two minutes of my time with your useless and emotional rant. Not only did it make me want to throttle you (more than once) but it actually made me think you could be very gay. Oh yes, I know Smith is a good player and all that - but your obsession with him borders on something a little more than just admiration. I never liked Smith, and still don't. Not because I think he is a bad player - I just think he is a bit of an ass...

Dawid 1/8/2009 8:38:25 AM
I still don't like Smith, I think he has grown over the past year, more so than ever before in his career, but he still get these moments where his ego interferes with his bat. Don't get me wrong, it does not mean I don't have respect for him, but I just don't like him. You can now throw the tantrun. As for the team, Congrats boys, you did it, to the Captain, what a way to lead from the front, and to the coach, Well done for a good job

Raymond Hocknell 1/8/2009 8:39:18 AM
Hear hear!!! I couldn't agree more. I have had more than my fair share of arguments where I have had to defend Graeme Smith from clowns that judge Cricket ability by virtue of personality, going back to the days before he made the national side and played a couple of games for the Lions. Mind you, even the virtues of his personality are being extolled by all and sundry now. I love it. At least the naysayers (most of them) are prepared to admit now they were wrong...

j 1/8/2009 8:40:06 AM
I think his attitude, his positivenes and if you call arigance bad well it helped. I think all past captains lacked the belief and drive to win. He proved him self day one in his 1st ODi against Aus when he scored 2 50's back to back. he showed he can stand up against the best. He went on to make back to back double centuries. he leads on the field not in the media. Hope he recovers quick think we way weaker with out him. Cricket is proffesional and results matter.

Dawid 1/8/2009 8:40:23 AM
I still don't like Smith, I think he has grown over the past year, more so than ever before in his career, but he still get these moments where his ego interferes with his bat. Don't get me wrong, it does not mean I don't have respect for him, but I just don't like him. You can now throw the tantrun. As for the team, Congrats boys, you did it, to the Captain, what a way to lead from the front, and to the coach, Well done for a good job

Lets Wait 1/8/2009 8:40:25 AM
Well done. Don't forget we are only no 3 in the world in test cricket.Lets not get carried away. Let them get to no 1 and win the series at home as well as a couple of one day matches against the Australians.

Wessel 1/8/2009 8:43:47 AM
The most important quality of any good leader is humility and see none of that in Greame Smith. He is a good player but Anthony,but I have to agree with those poeple you refer to in your comment he is arrogant. MMMM is going out on the field with a broken finger bravery or stupidity?

Warrick 1/8/2009 8:44:18 AM
Whoopeee for you! You were the only person in the world who recognised the true brilliance of the team?!?! One would have thought you would be happy that others were admitting their mistake and now shared your views?

TB 1/8/2009 8:45:05 AM
Does not necessarily breed success. One of the most arrogant captains in Cricket is Ricky Ponting. He very seldom humbles himself or his team and if he sometimes do, he normally has an excuse or 2 ready on why they lost. He has the biggest mouth in the game today. So, I never had and still do not have a problem should Graham give them a bit of a mouthfull from time to time.

Hypocrite 1/8/2009 8:46:15 AM
Smith has matured since the Dec 07 series against NZ in SA. Before that he was obnoxious and arrogant and his form was not great and inconsistant. He gained our respect by doing his best and giving his all this past year. Even Chris Moerdyk has seen a change in Biffs attitude and states that he has handled everything with humility. Biff changed, and changed for the better. Thats how he earned our respect. By rising above everthing and giving his all. Call me a hypocrite all you want.

Sonny 1/8/2009 8:47:02 AM
Good article. The problem with SA supporters is that they are so negative. With cricket it was either Smith or quotas. When he came into this team as a youngster their were a few knowledgeable people who predicted he would become a legend and he will. The same happens with rugby. As soon as we lose a few games it's the coach or quotas. All our teams need our support and I will be supporting Bafana even though I do not even watch soccer. It's time we back our teams. Show some patriotism people.

John Camp 1/8/2009 8:47:37 AM
i guess we can all consider ourselves truely kakked out.

Smokey 1/8/2009 8:47:44 AM
Freshly Ground, do yourself a favor and go lookup the meaning of "hypocrite". It you want to play "I told you so" then at least use proper language constructs. As far as Smith is concerned, I still think he's a p*epol. It takes a team to win, not a broken-fingerd captain. Well done Proteas, we're all proud of you!

Roger taylor 1/8/2009 8:48:14 AM
I have always respected Smith. Your article is spot on though but there are a great deal die hard supporters out there that will support them no matter what. So you are not alone in your thinking about the other negative half.

psycobabble 1/8/2009 8:51:28 AM
Smith was also made to look like a jelly baby next that Ricky Ponting idiot.He's so arrogant and a bad sport that he makes Smith look like a choir boy.

Mlu 1/8/2009 8:51:37 AM
We Safricans are amazing we always want to sit in our corners and fight useless wars. What is wrong with criticising when not convinced, and praising when things improve?? We seem to think that if you support something or someone you must not criticise it/them.

Bemused Bystander 1/8/2009 8:52:36 AM
I wonder why you even bothered to take the time to post your puerile comment when you offer neither an intelligent and well reasoned opinion or any value to this debate. Your ignorance is glaringly obvious when you say that Smith offers value only 5 % of the time. Like they always say, there are no pills for stupidity! Otherwise a great article and so accurate!

Vinkie 1/8/2009 8:52:45 AM
Although you might be right in some cases, I would suggest that you don't generalise. I have always been a supporter and if I understand you tirade correctly it seems that you and I were the only supporters, which I don't think is true, sir!

Wikus 1/8/2009 8:53:08 AM
I'm sorry but changing ones view of a person doesn't make one a hypocrite. I too had my doubts about Smith. He was being caught lbw by any left arm bowler who could bowl the ball into his pads. He fixed his batting flaw and has been unstoppable since. I can safely say I've been a fan of his for just over a year. Every tour the Protea supporters have been optimistic about our chances over there. We got a hiding every time. So excuse them for being pessimists. Your article is very childish.

Giant Panzy 1/8/2009 8:55:52 AM
And then a hero comes along.. With the strength to carry on.. And you cast your fears aside.. And you know you can survive.. So when you feel like hope is gone.. Look inside you and be strong.. And you'll finally see the truth.. That a hero lies in you.. LMAO

Kyle 1/8/2009 8:56:44 AM
Well said sir! I too am sick of fikkle SA Cricket supporters. I am proud to say that I am a fan of SA cricket through the bad and good. I am also proud to say that I have been a smith fan since 2003.

Punk27 1/8/2009 8:57:42 AM
GS still sucks - series win or not. Cricket still sucks since Hansie left...

Will Oosthuizen 1/8/2009 8:58:01 AM
hey, are you so naive to think that one man is responsible for a cricket-series win? Give the credit to Dale Steyn, Amla and Duminy and recognize that it takes a team to win. Smith should be glad his arm got hit and not his oversized mouth! The Aussies are on the comeback and this despite their team-building stage. They have made this ex-pat proud!!!

markn 1/8/2009 8:58:32 AM
Okay, Smith is a good captain now. But he was a bit of a idiot when he started as captain and had an ego of note. Insead of takeing the bad press personally he took it and learnt from it. I still think we had to say what we said in order for that Smith to grow into what he is today. Image we all said he was great when he was an idiot.

CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN 1/8/2009 8:59:59 AM
Well, I think the love for Hansie is one of those things that just cannot die. The acceptance of a young boy (when he started) was met with "oh please, he could never be a Hansie" I did not like Smith because I just didn't believe that he was the man for the job, but I was proven wrong. After this test series I am now a full Smith Supporter and feel that he has now surpassed Hansie's legacy, yes Hansie is "Captain, my captain" and always will be, but Mr Smith is a SUPERHERO... SMAAK YOU BRU

henk 1/8/2009 9:00:29 AM
why must i apologies because i dont like smith? did the author of this article notice how many times boucher ran up the pitch to give instructions and advice to bowlers? did you notice how many times boucher did the fieldplacing? why does everybody want to make such a story about smith? what about the rest of the team? players like duminy, steyn, boucher, de villiers, amla, morkel, kallis, etc? hey! suddenly i realised that there is more than one player in the team!!!! what a shocker!

Alex Ingram 1/8/2009 9:00:34 AM
I will not apologise for my criticism of Graeme Smith. I say this because in my opinion it was deserved for and when it was delivered. Smith has matured into a complete cricketer and now deserves all the accolades bestowed on him at this time but there were times and Im certain times to follow when he deserved the criticism. As far as our victory is concerned, great achievement. I myself didnt see such a brilliant display being possible but Im happy to be wrong

Morg 1/8/2009 9:01:35 AM
He my be a doos which can still be used but with your comments it clasifies you as half a doos which is of no use to man or woman, go and get knotted you idiot

Marcel 1/8/2009 9:01:40 AM
then we should never ever criticise any SA player or team, because eventually they'll come good? Sorry dude, can't agree. Do you not think it's criticism (constructive) that helps players develop, improve? Criticism does not imply we're unsupportive.

Charl 1/8/2009 9:01:44 AM
I think the point of the article is that we need to be less critical. A sportsmen makes a few mistakes and we take him to the cleaners. Ponting says what he wants, does what he wants and looses almost all of his test matches. But listen to the fans and the commentators. They raise a few points, but don't go for a witch hunt. Most of our sports stars are thrown to the side, when our redicilous high standards are not met.

Lardus 1/8/2009 9:03:46 AM
In the past, Smith did not have the support of alot of people because: 1) Young,inexperienced captain - we did not have faith in him. 2) He was cocky and arrogant. 3)He tried to act 'Australian'. 4)His personal performances were not always up there. 5)He seemed to lack vision and leadership. Only since 2006 has he starter to REALLY grow as player and captain.You cannot expect his previous 'sins' to be forgotten overnight. But he is starting to become one of our best, on and off the field.

Liki 1/8/2009 9:05:31 AM
Well, well, well: Australia's game is going through the doldrums and now the Muppet and his team mates beat 'em for once (and still not easily). Couldn't beat the old boys (Warne, etc.) for love or money. But hey, Safricans are so desperate and have such low self esteem that they'll take any credit and then blow it out of all proportion. Still chokers of the highest order, nothing's changed.

AJ 1/8/2009 9:11:27 AM
Where does everyone get this "Smith is arrogant crap from" - I think a lot of you say it because you see other people saying it. Unless you actually are a friend of his (and for some time too), then I am really not interested in your psycho analysis of a stranger. You're the losers..

Dirk 1/8/2009 9:12:32 AM
5%. You dont know your cricket. Smith is the highest run scorer in the world this year. 5%? hmmm....another fact, he took the most catches for a non wicket keeper. Shows the strength of our pace attack really. I like Smith and always have, but I think all of us supporters must be wary of the return series. It will be just as tough as it was over there. These aussies wont go lying down. Neither does Biff actually. Sharon, you are still an idiot.

Kyle 1/8/2009 9:14:40 AM
Well said sir! I too am sick of fikkle SA Cricket supporters. I am proud to say that I am a fan of SA cricket through the bad and good. I am also proud to say that I have been a smith fan since 2003.

Ant 1/8/2009 9:15:38 AM
Smith is, and always was a great leader and a truly humble human being. Listening to ex-Aussie greats commenting on the radio, they have always had huge respect for him and his cricketing ability. He is a credit to South African sport. What a brilliant guy. Shame on all of you who have picked on him in the past. Just because he didn't have the boyish carefreeness as Hansie Cronje. But we all know where Hansie's gamesmanship got him....

Murray Carter 1/8/2009 9:15:58 AM
Biff was a complete chop the 1st time he went to Aus. He has got better now. So nobody needs to apologise because this year he is different. Growing up is your friend clearly...now you chill out chop

Ali 1/8/2009 9:17:08 AM
People will probably criticize me for this, but Graeme Smith can never compare to Polly or Hansie...sure the oke makes good runs for the team and is a class batsman,but he isnt a peoples person,which is what a captain should be...and that arrogance is %^&*() annoying...

joe 1/8/2009 9:20:41 AM
He is a good batsman, but his captaincy skills are a bit conservative and will never be able to guide us to a world cup !!!! Good on him for coming out to bat thought.

j 1/8/2009 9:21:40 AM
well if 5 % = an average greater than 50 in test as an opening batsmen, 3 highest run scorer for 2008, 1005 test series win, A Match winning innings against Enland to win the series, his 4 50's scored in Aus at a good pace to set up both victory chases, great catches taken at slip, fastest SA batsmen to reach 6000 runs, As an opening batsmen to do that. Well i wonder what he would do if he gave 6%...

Excalibur 1/8/2009 9:21:51 AM
Smith has now earned respect. His first years as captain he had not earned it and was arrogant. He has grown up. Compare his attitude now to his attitude then. The improvement in his captaincy is a RESULT of this change. I did not admire him then but do now, because he is a better man and better captain now. I SUPPORTED him and the team, I did not LIKE him. There is a difference, you fail to see that.

GeePmb 1/8/2009 9:21:58 AM
Australia has always been the benchmark in cricket and beating them in their own back yard now makes us a great team. Smith has grown up and learnt the gentle art of humility so therefore, we supporters are allowed to change our minds about him. Now that he has really proved himself against the first ranked team in the world, we can now glorify him. Well done Biff, you have earned your stripes and our respect.

J.O 1/8/2009 9:24:39 AM
I didn't like Smith ,as stated I thought he was a real doos, because, well, he acted like one. He has matured and gained my respect, but reading your letter, I assume I must go back to thinking he's a doos because I used to think that of him when he acted like one? Nah mate, sorry but what's in the past is in the past, live with it. People change, circumstances change, and therefore opinions change.

Andre 1/8/2009 9:24:56 AM
If it wasn?t for the other guys do you still think he would look good? No apologies from my side.

Kwekwe guy 1/8/2009 9:25:22 AM
He sucks. He was lucky and did not break his hand. He was just scared and they would have bullied him if he did not go in to bat. He is a moffie

Charl 1/8/2009 9:25:27 AM
Living in the past .. :-) Steyntjie gave your hero Hayden a hiding. Your days are over .. LOL

MJ 1/8/2009 9:27:32 AM
He is a brilliant batsman and clearly a good leader. I still remember his two double hundreds against England and have been a fan of his since then. But he went through an arrogant phase, which is when he had a loss of support from the puplic, but he learned from it and look at him now. Maybe we can also learn.

clifton 1/8/2009 9:27:58 AM
like everyone that can't find a good thing to say about Gibb's now, we kicked him while he was down and out. I promise you all, that Gibb's will redeem himself on the biggest stage in cricket and you will again see the likes of Athur Turncoat and his ilk falling around with apologies. Do we remember Hansie in his darkest hour ? Smell the coffee my people, we are a fickle species..........

CB57 1/8/2009 9:30:41 AM
couldn't have said it better! Really, Freshly Ground, get over yourself

Andy 1/8/2009 9:30:59 AM
Dude, I think you need to rid yourself of this sexual frustration you are obviously suffering from! At the end of the day, everyone has an opinion or a view - that's life and that's what each and every one of us are entitled to...deal with it!

Realist 1/8/2009 9:33:13 AM
I don't think Smith has achived all that much - sure SA have a really good side, but the SA team of '99 was the best - SA are only winning series' now coz the opposition is weakening - think abt it - AUS is not nearly half as strong as they were in '99, neither are England - yet we matched those team's greatest era's step for step. SA team then was probably 9.5 out of 10, so too AUS - today SA is around 8.5, AUS around 6 at best. Smith is still an avg captain compared to Hansie

Sonny 1/8/2009 9:34:25 AM
Funny world! Everywhere we look people with low moral values are elevated to hero status. Pop stars, politicians etc. Hansie was a crook, end of story pal!

boertjie 1/8/2009 9:35:18 AM
Come one! We did win the series but we were lucky to do so. Also it is not about Smith but about the team. The real hero is Majola because he stopped this racist target bullshit in the team selection and kicked Arendse ass. Also it is time fot Ntini to go because he is the weak point in the bowling attack.

solrakkant 1/8/2009 9:37:42 AM
Really glad that I was from the beginning a fan and supporter of Graeme Smith and the proteas... They made it difficult after the 2007 world cup, but still! NO humble pie for me, thanks! As for the rest... dish up guys, dish up! :)

gatsby 1/8/2009 9:38:36 AM
It's only cricket!

funny 1/8/2009 9:41:33 AM
We all are armchair critics and coaches AKA fans. We depend on information given to us by 'experts' like you from which we make our own assesments. get over it.

mallencolly 1/8/2009 9:42:22 AM
Are you suggesting that a person that acknowledges a previous mistake is a hypocrite? VG's Quote of Keynes says it best. "When the facts change, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?". Smith has proven himself. "Mickey Mouse" has proven himself. The Proteas have been awesome. No apologies needed for previous FAIR criticism or doubt.

Gary 1/8/2009 9:42:37 AM
Supporters have to take the good with the bad. We have one one of if the best cricket teams in the world and you have to stand behind your team no matter what. As for liki's comment. Even when we had the teams of the early 90's we couldn't beat australia and were easily intimidated by them. SO don't start with that dribble.

Philani 1/8/2009 9:43:36 AM
He is a hero indeed, I salute him.

Big Bad Bob 1/8/2009 9:43:41 AM
What you're addressing here is an unfortunate part of human nature. Once Smith's side staved off defeat in the first Test in the UK and won the 2nd the knives were out for Michael Vaughan. The same is already happening with Ponting. A winning captain is always popular, a losing captain is always regarded as a plank. Pietersen's honeymoon didn't last long either. A winning captain has loads of fans, a losing captain never has enough supporters.

jco 1/8/2009 9:44:37 AM
"I thought he was a doos then and I think he is a doos now. Arrogant and irritating. Plays decently for 5% of the time and the rest of the time he is a waste. - sharon" - Cant say it better!!!!

Annabelle 1/8/2009 9:44:53 AM
Even though Australia is going through transition, it was still a great effort to win. The SA team is a lot younger and have great scope for improvement. Smith is now humble off the field and articulate and has one the hearts of us Aussies. I think it's fair to say that he was immature in his early years but maybe that's a result of being expedited to the job too early.

Freshly Ground 1/8/2009 9:45:40 AM
The point I'm trying to make here is that there was no support for Smith from most of the public over the last TWO years when we were WINNING. To criticise is fine, every one does and sportsman expect it. But the full on blinkered negativity without even looking at the facts is what got my goat. This article has nothing to do with me being proved right or not. It has everything to do with you guys supporting your team (captain) at all times, not only when something special is done.

jakkals 1/8/2009 9:45:43 AM
The ONLY reason why Smith went on this tour is because he knew that he had an excellent team around him who would beat the weakest Aussie team in more than 20 years. (And that fools like the writer of this article would give him all the glory!) Due to injury Smith should not have toured in the first place. It was all about self glory and you gullable fools are falling for it! Smith will never be a true captain!

Patriot 1/8/2009 9:45:45 AM
GS scored the most runs in the world this season,and has allways been a attacking batsmen, with a test avrage of over 50, and had the best Pro 20 average of any international player, where in the last 5 years has he gone wrong, check his great stats over the Past years on www.cricinfo. he has allways been great not just in this series, Watch the game people, dont just read the score card in the papper.

TC 1/8/2009 9:46:29 AM
I crticised him when he was not performing as expected. He is being paid well to do a job. let him do it, else be criticised or even fired. In SA we need to learn this lesson.

j 1/8/2009 9:46:30 AM
He made bad mistakes this series, Symonds should never have played and he obviously made some tough thought about his bowling attack. I would have loved to test our boys against a more stronger attack. Still think they would have been up for it. I am concerned as the tail bats longer than the top order excpet for Smith who never really failed.

Big Bad Bob 1/8/2009 9:48:51 AM
Sure a captain's performance owes a lot to the side and to the opposition, but Smith's record is very good. Hansie (nor Wessels, nor Pollock) never won a series in England. Smith did. Under Hansie SA teams were alway famous for reaching the final and then falling to pieces. That's when they got the "chokers" label. Plus, as we all know, Cronje knew the price of everything and the value of nothing and was prepared to sell his team's performances.

Jim (Mac the Boer) 1/8/2009 9:49:34 AM
I have never been a Smith fan, and he has never impressed me on the field. I was dobtful at the beginning of teh sries when the media was speculating a series win and whitewash. We achieved the series win - well done to the team. As has been pointed out above it was not the "best" ever Aus team. So my advice to Graeme and the team is - Don't get over confident.

Khani 1/8/2009 9:50:03 AM
If a team plays badly or the captain makes bad decisions, those who understand the game will be critical and rightfully so, and obviously praise will be showered when due. Hypocrits are the ones who write crap articals like this when it suits their views.

zondi 1/8/2009 9:50:52 AM
Well done to the Captain and his troopers. You deserve all the praise. Next time i'll watch what i say when it comes to the team.

Skywalker 1/8/2009 9:51:05 AM
...because of certain reasons does not mean you are a fickle supporter of the team. Well, that means probably (based on zero scientific study but a rough estimate of posts on Sport24.com) 90 % of so-called Springbok supporters are hypocrits because they support the Springboks but hate the Puke. As for the apology, I won't. Smith changed his attitude, I changed my view of him. Full stop.

Big Bad Bob 1/8/2009 9:52:25 AM
I'd say he's grown. He was a very inexperienced captain initially, though always tough, honest and brave, but he has learned from his mistakes and improved himself.

Elizabeth 1/8/2009 9:52:34 AM
So people are not allowed to make mistakes and change their minds? I still don't like Graeme Smith, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to support the team! Besides, Graeme Smith might also have changed - people tend to change as they grow up..... so calm down and celebrate with the rest of us, okay Fresh?

simon 1/8/2009 9:52:37 AM
oh my God!!! Smith played cricket with a broken hand - he did not spend 27 years in prison, fighting for a freedom, or lost a limp and went on to win a Olympic gold medal!!

Izak 1/8/2009 9:53:02 AM
I will never like GS, no matter how well the team does. Never liked him, and the last straw was the last time at the 20overs WC, when we got our butts handed to us on a silver platter and and MICKEY MOUSE were sitting there grinning and laughing like crack addicts in an opium den, instead of taking charge and motivating. I'll watch again the day he leaves

Met Uysh! 1/8/2009 9:54:34 AM
Smith changed his attitude and showed remarkable character in this series especially. So we are allowed, and you should rather be happy (as a so called TRUE supporter) that he has turned many in his favor with this. And @ JOE, never say NEVER. We NEVER have beaten Aus before in a test series in Oz...

ME 1/8/2009 9:55:41 AM
Well freshly ground are you trying to tell me that even when Smith went through his tough times LBW or getting caught in the slips every time he walked out to bat you never critisised him? If you watched his interview with channel 9 on the 4th day tea break, where even he admitted he has come along way, you would not have wasted you time with you little wussy fit. Get a life!!!!

Chris 1/8/2009 10:07:29 AM
We are meant to be celebrating a great series win by our TEAM (and Biffs performances) and all you can do is throw stones! Get over it please!! To see people celebrate his hero status and apologies for their past thoughts are amazing and humbling. Get off you high horse and go eat some more pies on your couch.

CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN 1/8/2009 10:08:39 AM
Hey Sonny, No denying the truth... Hansie did what he di when he did it, he was awesome nontheless... If you watched the movie perhaps you would have a little more compassion... but I agree he made mistakes, I still think he's awesome. And so far BIFF is doing better without the betting so therefore he is now better not so?

Pun 1/8/2009 10:09:14 AM
Ja Hansie was a crook (big freakin' deal), but he was still the best cricketer or captain the Proteas ever had.

Grant 1/8/2009 10:09:50 AM
Arent you forgetting one man didnt win the series it was a TEAM effort! How about giving Steyn, JP, AB, Hash, Morne, Makhaya etc etc some credit too! Well done to the WHOLE team.

seema 1/8/2009 10:17:54 AM
Thanks! you the man your cheque is in the post . nice one boet

Badger 1/8/2009 10:18:36 AM
"DRY YOUR EYES" and "GET OVER IT" !!!!!!!!!!

symphony 1/8/2009 10:19:27 AM
please don't even try comparing smith to hansie. hansie was a disgrace... smith does his talking on the pitch and not to the bookies.

Craig 1/8/2009 10:21:12 AM
Totally agree about the SA supporters, still think smith is an a*sehole though. In 3 of the last major tests series he's played he has used the injury act when losing. This "heroic" brave act of his, while in severe pain from a sore finger is utter nonsense, he was pumped full of painkillers/drugs, that's most probable why he didn't see the ball that took his wicket and cost us the test and 1st position in the world ranking.

John 1/8/2009 10:29:09 AM
Sure GR8 Athlete, GR8 Sportsman. Still deserves to be criticized to deserve all the support, pity about the bicycle face. Win or loose you still remain a CHOP?

Pieter Erwee 1/8/2009 10:32:44 AM
Lets look at how this all started....we hosted a world cup sometime ago....he wasnt selected-cause he wasnt good enough back then...then he got called up to the squad due to Jonty's injury...all ok upto that point.Straight after world cup Pollock got fired as Captain...guess who became captain straight after the world cup....the team he wasnt good enough for in the beginning.Then he started critisizing Lance Klusner...So sorry I dont have much time for any Captain that is like that.

Hey 1/8/2009 10:33:45 AM
Hey sounds like someone stole your "sarmies" get over it... Chop

Punk27 1/8/2009 10:37:26 AM
Like every other cricket captain the world over, Smith is already talking to bookies...

SeanO 1/8/2009 10:48:09 AM
It must be one of the toughest jobs, being a sports leader. It's not enough to perform well yourself, but you have to motivate the team to be at their best 100% of the time. All this while the critics just wait to grill you - a thick skin must help. In todays competitive world keeping your job as sports leader is a challenge -look at the Premier league managers.... Smith has matured and shown his mettle. To all the nay sayers and i was one, boohoo. Good on ya Smith!!!

T 1/8/2009 10:55:10 AM
We all look at our SA Captains to be superheroes, regardless which sport they represent. People had things to say about John Smit not being the best hooker but look what happened to the boks when he was not there to lead. Graeme is a brilliant captain and leads by example which affects the whole team, go proteas, go bokke, come on bafana....

Piet Parra 1/8/2009 11:00:22 AM
Never liked him, and I still dont like him. I have nothing to apologise to him for. Cheers Graeme See you never...

Jay D 1/8/2009 11:03:29 AM
hahahaha!!! good 1 siswe. Really enjoyed the I told you so message this morning, Thanks!!

Rio 1/8/2009 11:03:40 AM
i must agree with u there, yes the team of 99 was probably the best team SA ever produced, fair enuf they brought no glory, one must remember that the team we beat now werent the mighty aussie team weve know over the years... as for Smiths captaincy, still has a lot to learn, Hansie will always be captain my captain!! Rio

Ric 1/8/2009 11:04:33 AM
why aren't they "blaming" this series win on transformation - as they surely would have if SA had lost!!

sharon 1/8/2009 11:09:56 AM
I am entitled to my opinion as are you. I don't know how many times I've watched Graeme Smith and Gibbs open the batting, only for Smith to block 40 balls while only scoring 5 runs - before being bowled out etc. He is arrogant and irritating. That is my comment and I'm posting it - even if you only appreciate your own posting. Ah how wonderful to be in a free country!

Connie 1/8/2009 11:21:45 AM
Smith is just lucky enough to be the captain of a young and promising SA squad when th rest of the world's national cricket sides are below average. Not a shadow of their teams until 2006. His whole 'batting with broken hand' was just to run a guilt trip on his critics. Shame, the tactics he resorts to.

Lourens 1/8/2009 11:26:52 AM
Read nice,not only the best captain but also the best cricketer in the world!!! You dof people who still critize him,shame u are sooooo jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smith we love you!!! Polly retired,Hansie(my hero)they are not here anymore,byt in anycase Smith is still better!!!!!!!!

Leigh 1/8/2009 11:28:21 AM
I support all the national teams (except soccer - which I do not watch). I am entitled to an opinion on members of the teams and how they play. I have respect for all our sports men and women - but not everyone in SA will like all members of the different teams. I am not a huge fan of Graeme Smith, but I respect him for stepping up and making our country proud. And even if I dislike him - I am not a hypocrite when expressing my respect for the way he played.

freak 1/8/2009 11:29:02 AM
I have never been a fan of GS personally but as a Protea player and captain he has proven himself worthy. Unfortunately I have to agree with Point Blank that his actions were not those of heroism but of pure self interest to glorify himself.

Skateboard 1/8/2009 11:32:53 AM
This is not the time of Old boys and if i may remind you history was made and we have every right to be happy about that, just try and watch the Matches lately and you will find none of your Old boys same as SA team. we won right at the back your teams yard and thats it! the sooner you except the better dont tell us about old boys.

Boerseun 1/8/2009 11:36:40 AM
Now the won and in the future they'll loose, so what does it all matter. Those who support the team or any sport should just enjoy it and not get their knickers in a knot about sport or any sports person. It's not worth it. Personally I have been weaned of all sports teams that wear the protea, so that leaves me with rugby and individual sportsman....

Abass Des Kaboel 1/8/2009 11:38:23 AM
Biff biff biff! he ripped the heart out of the Aussie dragon, and feed it to all his SA fans,Biff biff biff! they eat and sulk and complain, Biff biff biff like Hansie they want his heart, Biff biff biff, damn all these crazy fans, they want Biff suicidal.

wim 1/8/2009 11:44:28 AM
Well said! He cannot set a field, and if players disagree with him, they're out - e.g. Klusener and Nel. That also explains Dale Steyn giving him credit for 50% of his wickets. Duncan Fletcher had more to do with the series win than Smith and Arthur combined.

sharon 1/8/2009 11:44:31 AM
I am entitled to my opinion as are you. I don't know how many times I've watched Graeme Smith and Gibbs open the batting, only for Smith to block 40 balls while only scoring 5 runs - before being bowled out etc. He is arrogant and irritating. That is my comment and I'm posting it - even if you only appreciate your own posting. Ah how wonderful to be in a free country!

sharon 1/8/2009 11:45:44 AM
Telling me to get knotted shows who you are...a quarter doos.

Jonas 1/8/2009 11:46:43 AM
You want us to apologize for criticizing Smith but then you won?t accept our apologies? Doesn?t make sense! Well, for the first time since he has become captain, I was impressed by him. He did a great job in Australia. Well done Graeme, we are all very proud of you and the team! As for Hansie, he got the short end of the stick and was hung out to dry by Ali Bacher. Some Australian cricketers did exactly the same thing, but were protected by the ACB. What he did was no worse than what happens in the ANC on a daily basis! Hansie is still my hero!

Cammie 1/8/2009 11:47:11 AM
Well stated Freshly Ground! Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I've yet to see such fickle supporters as SA's cricket supporters. You don't have to like the guy, but there's no denying he's done more than his fair share to ensure we've stayed right up there with the best. Credit must be given where credit is due, and the greatest lesson Graeme has learned from his mistakes, is that humility is a great friend and a powerful weapon!!

Big Bad Bob 1/8/2009 12:10:39 PM
Are you a mind reader? We know that Smith went out to bat in that last innings. But how do you know what his motive was? Irrespective of wether it was for the team or, as you suggest, his own glory it was a courageous act.

Tasneem 1/8/2009 12:22:27 PM
Just so pathetic! Is smith the only arrogant cricketer in the world. I always had faith in GS, he always believes in himself never bothered about the criticsm he still remained protea captain and is growing from strenght to strenght.Flip the negative people and just continue to rise!

Big Bad Bob 1/8/2009 12:30:29 PM
Comparing him to Warne and Co is not realistic. There is no evidence to show that they offered money to teammates to underperform. Cronje did. He was not the only one. Azharrudin of India was found to have done the same and was banned. Ditto Rehman of Pakistan. There was no evidence to show that Warne or Mark Waugh tried to influence the outcome of a match. Cronje sold his own team's fortunes - and paid the proper price.

Big Bad Bob 1/8/2009 12:31:19 PM
Sure he's got low scores. It's worth remembering that even Sir Donald Bradman only got a ton every third innings.

Deal 1/8/2009 12:35:29 PM
I always went throught hard time with my friends and work collegues saying oh that arsehole arrogant smith what do u see in Him. I kept on having faith that he is a fighther and brave cricketer he will shine, even thou he is aware SA dont support him &keep critising him. Believe it or not at work everyone now addresses me as mrs Smith after the magnificant series win and aplogises for being nasty about captain Courageous

GMan 1/8/2009 12:40:34 PM
I agree. He is an arrogant and irritating box. Now that they are doing well everyone is kissing ass, but when they lose, and they will, they'll be put in stocks and stoned again.

Jonas 1/8/2009 1:03:16 PM
Are you suggesting that GS can be compared to Donald Bradman? Even for you that is a bit rich! There is also no proof that Hansie actually ever threw a game! He discussed it with the team, yes, but they did not accept it. As for Warne and Waugh, I have it from impeccable sources that they were much more involved than what was ever said in the media and that the ACB was well aware of it. That's what I mean by the ACB protecting them.

Sam 1/8/2009 1:07:46 PM
Great to see a true Smith fan. I hear that he has broken up with this gf, so maybe you should give him a call and see if you stand a chance. I was one of those that did not like Smith. Crickets represent their country and create a view on the people within that country. Every country around the world thought that Smith was arrogant and it created a perception about South Africans. I'm glad to see that he has grown up. I like the new Smith.

Justice 1/8/2009 1:09:43 PM
Just a quick though about captain stupid. We may have not lost a test series since 2006 but we were thoroughly destroyed 4 - 0 by England in the ODI serious towards the end of last year and as memory serves me, Smith was there. He's still a tool.

BS 1/8/2009 1:17:09 PM
Wonder if any of you idiots have ever played any sport, let alone a technically difficult sport like cricket! Go back to you favorite pastime of showing your ignorance and true degraded character.

Nick 1/8/2009 1:19:41 PM
You are entitled to your comments but please try to comment like an adult. You clearly dislike Smith but that is no reason to bad mouth him like a child. Stats are stats and Smith is a very very good cricketer. You also appear to be in a corner with your childish reponses.

Gman? 1/8/2009 1:25:12 PM
Sharon do one thing and support arrogant , traitor KP Maybe he will make youproud.Oh better still with all this talking lets see if you can be a humble excellent crickter and be the heroic captain for womancricket team. Best of Luck!

Skywalker 1/8/2009 1:40:01 PM
It is ok, we know we will probably lose some time or another...oh wait, we just did! And the biggest support for Graeme came AFTER that loss! Don't you see? Its not about the losing first and foremost, its about the way South Africa played and giving a good account for themselves! And whatever everyone says about the quality of the Aus team, the are ranked nr 1 officially in the World! Give SA credit for performing wonderfully! And if we lose,I believe it will not be without a good fight!

sharon 1/8/2009 2:05:33 PM
My comments have got some of your knickers in a knot. Why is everyone getting so upset about the fact that I can't stand GS. I'm not insulting any of you for liking him? Personally attacking me only proves how juvenile you are, not me.

Big Bad Bob 1/8/2009 2:06:02 PM
No, I'm not comparing Smith to Bradman. My point is that even the very best don't get a big score every time they bat. Smith's record is pretty good as it is. But the reality is that if you scored a ton every third time you batted you'd be comparable to Bradman - and "failing" 2/3 of the time.

dean 1/8/2009 2:07:11 PM
I supported Smith before he was captain, when he spilled the beans on the aussie sledging on their last SA tour. He got under their skin, people in the know took notice, and now look where we are - he has stripped their skin right off! Frankly, I think the England series win was possibly bigger (for SA) than this, but it is the WAY we have been winning that is so remarkable. Pure class - mixed with fighting brak when in a corner.

Big Bad Bob 1/8/2009 2:15:29 PM
By his own admission Cronje offered money to his own players as an inducement for them to underperform. The players who accepted were Gibbs and Williams. Interestingly having solicited the payments from the bookies he then took a cut for himself and did not pass the full amount on. This is as per his own testimony to the King Commission. There's no evidence that any Aussie player did anything like this.

Jonas 1/8/2009 3:22:31 PM
Hansie did not pass on the full amount because only Gibbs and Williams accepted. What was he supposed to do with the rest of the money? Give it to Ali Bacher? I say again, there was evidence against Warne and Waugh, but it was suppressed by the ACB. They protected their players. Even Hansie?s team mates and international cricketers from other countries were disgusted at the way UCB treated Hansie. Sharon - You have the right to your opinion, even when you criticize GS.

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