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Obama's speech 'arrogant'

by Mphatjie Monareng
2009-07-14 14:02

United States President Barack Obama delivered a much-anticipated speech in Ghana this past weekend; and the speech - from where I am sitting - did not live up to expectations. Without its trademark Obama rhetoric, the speech was an arrogant denial of the destructive role that successive Western governments play in Africa.

Amongst other arrogant statements, Obama said "the West is not responsible for the destruction of the Zimbabwean economy over the last decade, or wars in which children are enlisted as combatants". This is really a sad observation, particularly coming from a president some of us regard as part and parcel of Africa.

The economic and political sanctions against Zimbabwe - and not just corruption and mismanagement by the Zanu-PF government - are responsible for the destruction of the Zimbabwean economy. Countries such as Britain, the United States and their allies in the European Union are at the forefront of these sanctions.

The previous US Congress passed a law - the Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act of 2001 - which effectively gives the US government an illegal mandate to interfere in the internal affairs of Zimbabwe by funding anti-government activities through western non-governmental organisations (NGOs).

And, when these sanctions do not exert enough pressure to agitate the Zimbabwean population against their government, a deliberate propaganda campaign is unleashed to portray Zimbabwe as a country in a state of anarchy. Stories are exaggerated about cholera outbreaks, but when the disease is contained, the media is not there to tell us how this was done.

I am not, in any way, trying to deny the corruption and the thuggish behaviour of the Zanu-PF government. I am saying that all of us - including powerful politicians such as Obama - need to acknowledge the destructive role that both Zanu-PF and malicious western sanctions played in the collapse of the Zimbabwean economy.

Obama was also wrong to attribute the resolution of post-election violence in Kenya to efforts by civil society and business.  Said Obama in typical American ignorance: "Across Africa, we've seen countless examples of people taking control of their destiny, and making change from the bottom up. We saw it in Kenya, where civil society and business came together to help stop post-election violence."

In many cases, the "civil society" that Obama refers to is made up of western-sponsored NGOs. Such NGOs are not democratic grassroots organisations and people cannot use them to "take control of their destiny". In fact, as we speak today, ordinary Kenyans are not in control of their destiny. They suffer from poverty whilst politicians divide resources amongst themselves in a bloated cabinet.

Obama should know this. His farther is Kenyan and his family members, including his maternal grandmother, still live in Kenya under the administration of this corrupt government that we are now told is an example of what happens when people "make change from the bottom up".

Contrary to Obama's apparent belief that the Kenyan coalition government is something to emulate, I believe that, as Africans, we should be ashamed of Kenya, for the coalition government there is nothing more than a political conspiracy against ordinary folk.  The coalition government is made up of a large cabinet, consisting of 41 ministries and 50 assistant ministries. Politicians share money amongst themselves as the poor watch helplessly.

You can't in all honesty praise the Kenyan coalition government (which is a result of a post-election war that left 700 people dead and around 260 000 displaced) whilst slamming a similar arrangement in Zimbabwe. Both presidents (Mugabe and Mwai Kibaki) lost elections and both did not accept defeat; and both managed to get away with it - and Obama believes one of them is more acceptable than the other! Why?

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Philly 7/14/2009 2:10:11 PM
Destruction of Zim ecconomy: Steal farms, dont work the land = no GDP. Simple.

Chris G 7/14/2009 2:13:03 PM
HAAAAAAAAA!!!! I knew this was coming. Did you expect him to act like a typical African leader and blame everyone else? Like he said, Africa needs to start taking responsibility. Your letter is just a typical example of "African mentality": let's blame everyone else.

warmaster 7/14/2009 2:13:14 PM
Have same pride in who you are and stop blaming everything on the West. Mugabe and the people that voted for him are 100% responsible for the fall of Zim. Obama is 100% correct! OPEN YOUR EYES AND STOP BELIEVING THE LIES!...(that will never happen)

oh dear me 7/14/2009 2:14:03 PM
zzzzzzzzz...west...zzzzzzz...west...zzzzzz

Ag !!! 7/14/2009 2:18:17 PM
Hang on a sec, didn't South Africa too go through sanctions etc???? The old apartheid government too was corrupt (we just never spoke about it - or were not allowed to). Yet SA's economy did not implode. Please dude, Obama is an American, doesn't matter where is Grandma or dad came from !

Kabelo 7/14/2009 2:18:41 PM
I have never ever read such arrogance as this letter. Perhaps you should apply for a job as Mugabe's advisor. Because only he will appreciate the hog wash which you have recorded herein. Nothing but an attempt to seek attention is what I think. Good luck to you and the resposnes which you have invited.

pontsho mosoeu 7/14/2009 2:20:07 PM
i agree with you mchana.the speech has very serious contrdictions and obama must know that he is not a younger brother to god he must stop behaving like he is mr know them all.

Paul 7/14/2009 2:21:35 PM
Always someone elses fault, isn't it. Always the "malicious" West. Travel and financial santions against Bob personally was hardly designed to collapse Zim. Or cause cholera. Or invade the farms. But if it keeps you happy to blame the West, please carry on.

Deon 7/14/2009 2:21:39 PM
The TRUTH hurts!!
"arrogant denial of the destructive role that successive Western governments play in Africa", why can Africa not help itself, stand up for itself and why always blame the West?? Are Africans such weak self empowering whimps that they cannot do it for themselves? PS. Remember Obama has a white mother!!!

DHV 7/14/2009 2:22:54 PM
Africans need to take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming the West. Are Africans so weak that whites have such a powerful hold over them?

tommo 7/14/2009 2:23:21 PM
Perhaps though its best to clarify exactly what those UN sanctions against Zimbabwe actually were about. If you read the full letter on the issue by the UN, its actually completely aimed at sanctioning Mugabe and all his ministers, shady business friends, and military rulers. It does NOT in fact sanction ordinary Zimbabweans. Thus the sanctions should be commended, as its saying, "you thugs are stealing the public’s money and spending it on your little empires and for personal reasons, so we the Western world refuse to engage with you". so hats off to people with a conscience. Why the rest of africa doesn't have the backbone/ moral fibre to refuse to engage with these dictators I'm not sure...

Anon1 7/14/2009 2:23:21 PM
O dearie me Mr Author!! WTF are you saying? Zim collapsed before the sanctions. If it were not for the sanctions, then Zim would still have had Mugabe as the all mighty with Morgan locked up. Without sanctions, the NP would still rule SA. What a dumb prick you are trying to convince yourself it is all the EVIl west's fault. One the one hand you say its the west sanctions that caused the Zim failure on the other hand you say it is as a result of the west NGO that makes it a success? Colonialism ended long befor Germany and Japan was desroyed to the ground. Did they then just sit back and wait for handouts or did they make a decision to do it themselves? This is the problem with African countries - to many to list my dear friend.

galvitron 7/14/2009 2:27:04 PM
4 sure Obama can't come here and act like the Lawgiver. He's supposed to work with Africa not lecture or sponsor Africa as if he's come to save us to me he's just an average Joe.

IandI 7/14/2009 2:29:53 PM
CONGRATULATIONS, you have appointed yourself spokesperson for Mugabe and ZANU-PF! Enjoy your stay in Harare.(when are you leaving SA?)

SimonP 7/14/2009 2:29:57 PM
@The Author, clearly you have been brainwashed. The reason Zim is in a mess is 100% Mugabe and nothing else. No doubt you classify Bob as arevolutionary so can never be in the wrong.All the time people continue to blame outside forces when it is clear as day that the real cause in front of their noses Africa will continue to be 3rd World and going backwards.

Phephile Mzizi 7/14/2009 2:33:22 PM
I agree with those who say your article is a little bit 'blame it on the next man.' You just seem to have been waiting for a moment to make Obama look like he isn't really interested in Africa. I accept that history has told of how The West has invaded Africa and used and abused...but what is the point of your article? Really... What is its purpose?

Bhubesi 7/14/2009 2:33:39 PM
Mpatjie, that is where you make your mistake. Pres Obama is an American, not an African. It is you that have deceived yourselves into thinking he is "one of us". He's not. Just because his genes originate from a man who was born in Africa, does not make him an African or "one of us". His speech is probably not what you expected because he is not disilliusioned and ready to give handouts like Africa expected. Get over it. He is not the clown that political leaders are in general in Africa - mere wannabe's.

Eric 7/14/2009 2:34:05 PM
I agree that you cannot say that Kenya is a great example. But then are there any great examples in Africa.
As far as I know the sanctions against Zim are against specific people EG Mugabe rather than against the country.Why only blame the West for all the problems in Africa when the East (including Russia) are not the "holy ones " as you imply by your letter. How many AK'S come from the west compared to the east.After the Dalai Lama episode it is clear that Africa will do everything that the East demands.When will Africa start admitting that where they are at the moment is not only due to outside influence from the West and the East but also to their own inability to manage properly for the good of the people of Africa. The West might be arrogant, the East sly in their dealings but Africa has yet to prove that it has it's own people at heart.

Phehello 7/14/2009 2:35:28 PM
Monareng my brother, Obama told nothing but the truth, which is exactly what WE Africans don't wanna hear. The West did a lot of bad things to Africa, but WE can't blame everything on the West. Mugabe is in charge in Zimbabwe not the West! Are Africans correcting the injustices of the past by messing up their countries? Please my brother use your brain, two wrongs don't make it right!

ENrust 7/14/2009 2:35:35 PM
Mphatjie, I have never liked your articles... Just take a break from making us read such utter cr@p.

Mukanya WaSvosve 7/14/2009 2:35:58 PM
What hogwash! It is clear that Monareng is very ignorant about events in Zimbabwe. Personal sanctions against Mugabe and his cronies did not contribute to the breakdown in agriculture of a country that used to be the breadbasket of the region or the lack of hard currency due to the lack of wealth creation brought about by the lack of production. What about the lawlessless in that country caused by the Zanu PF militia? And the stealing of the election won by the MDC?

Mumbojumbo 7/14/2009 2:36:11 PM
Bob? is that you? Mphatjie I usually enjoy your articles, but jissie dude. What absolute drivel is this. Who do you blame if you make a typing error , Bill Gates?

DHV 7/14/2009 2:36:30 PM
Zimbabwe is the reason for its own failure!!! Africans must stop this "self-pity" mentality they have. Not everyone cares about Africans. And not everyone is willing to throw money at poor, starving diseased Africans.

Tumelo 7/14/2009 2:37:34 PM
Much has been "covered" about vote rigging in Zimbabwe. I'm still have to be shown any evidence of that allegation.

Muhammad Akoojee 7/14/2009 2:37:55 PM
A very well written and researched article and excellent point of view. I think many Africans have been overcome with Obama-Fever and hence fail to listen to exactly what he says and many fail to read between the lines.

His policy is not much different from that of bush, he just glosses his speech with fancy and polished words- America's policy of exploitation and building 'sustainable' relations with oil rich countries are made quite apparent to those discerning Africans.

debbie 7/14/2009 2:38:45 PM
To all Africans - Dont you have any pride? Are you not tired of always being the victim, being a slave and always struggling against something. Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions.

Anon1 @ galvitron 2:27 7/14/2009 2:39:21 PM
Dear sir, if Africa expects handouts from America, Obama can sure as hell tell them to get their act together and actually making an effort to progress. The easiest thing for Africa is to blame the past for current human rights violations and genocide under the rule of revolusionist parties. Obama is the schoolmaster disciplining naughty kids.

NvV 7/14/2009 2:40:00 PM
You need 2 watta dem grassroots, get em off their ass and do some constructive coz soon no west fella will be around to blame or to listen to your blame. Did ya get dat? Obbama said the magic words that got you complaining when he said its up to you Africa. How difficult is that to understand?

AC 7/14/2009 2:40:03 PM
HAHAHAH Oh give me a break. Africa is her own worst enemy. You are just pissed off because Obama basically "wrapped" you guys over the knuckles and told you to stop behaving like true African. "Politicians share wealth amongst them whilst the poor watch helplessly". Sounds familiar???? Welcome to Africa you arrogant SOB.

Vic 7/14/2009 2:40:09 PM
Obama sould cut the tele-prompt speeches and rather do something congrete for Africa, like Pres. George W Bush.

Thomas 7/14/2009 2:40:24 PM
You are quite correct when you say that the Western NGO's prevent Africans to take control of their own destiny. That is the just as well. We see what happens when control is in African hands, and you even point that out yourself in the very next sentence! Sometimes Democracy sits uneasy with African leadership , who often think it is their right to rule, not to govern. In their hands , the resources (aid money) would end up where it always ends up...in Switzerland.

helen 7/14/2009 2:40:39 PM
Obama is NOT an African. He is American. Just because Obama is half black does not mean he is going to bend over for Africans. Stupid people and stupid article!

Clement 7/14/2009 2:42:12 PM
The writer of this article is completely ignorant and arrogant. African need to stand and take responsibility of their well-being.

dillan 7/14/2009 2:44:09 PM
The West may be arrogant but atleast they are not poor, diseased, starving slaves. What has Africa ever done to contribute any thing positive to this world?

whoopie 7/14/2009 2:44:33 PM
HAHA, Like the rest of africa your letter says it all... it wasn;t me.... yet when you need something the west is good enough,,, SA had sanctions and we flourished Crime was low, SANDF actually did their job police actually caught criminals..... rapist got hanged...

Andre 7/14/2009 2:46:30 PM
To Anon1:
Although you're right on most points, in the case of Post War (West) Germany & Japan, massive support and investment was poured in by europe & america. And they weren't "destroyed to the ground".
Apples with apples etc..

FFI 7/14/2009 2:47:50 PM
What a load of cr@p. Monareng, please leave South Africa and go to Zim. Its the "help me" attitudes like yours that keep the poor poor. Lets just all sit back, do nothing, and wait for "help".

dennis 7/14/2009 2:48:23 PM
My father tought me that you become a man once you take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming everybody else Period

Sonny 7/14/2009 2:48:23 PM
Even Bill Clinton told Madibs "Trade not aid". We as Africans are the cause of most of our own problems!

FISH 7/14/2009 2:50:07 PM
If it wasnt for sanctions, South Africa would still have apartheid (you know that system where a minority group ruled over a large majority group for many many years)

Bhubesi 7/14/2009 2:50:57 PM
Obama is interested in helping Africa, but the prerequisites he is stating is what will ensure that Africa will thrive. However, it is Africans themselves who do not see the wisdom of following these guidelines or advice. Until they do, Africa will remain downtrodden, ill-managed and stay 3rd worldly as it currently is. I pray for Africans to wake up and realise that Africa can be great, but only if they start helping themselves and work hard. No handouts. And running so-called colonialists or counter-revolutionaries is not the answer. Learn from them. All 1st world countries have grown and advanced over time through hard work.

Abri 7/14/2009 2:51:51 PM
And Obama is a star like Britney Spears, the people behind the star pull the strings. Do you honestly believe that with the history that the US has of interferring in other countries' business anything is gonna change just because Obama has a different skin colour? Naive! So yes, the stereotype of africans and their governments is that we are all corrupt and warlike...the previous 10 white presidents of the USA said the same thing...and they were all arrogant imperialist pigs.

wolfie 7/14/2009 2:52:23 PM
Are you crazy! Blerrie Neo-Africanist!

samsam Part II @ SINUDEITY/EVRYBODY 7/14/2009 2:53:07 PM
(2) Investors are not worried that much about violent crime, they are worried about financial managers that are incompetent mentioned above, all these shenanigans have a bad rating for our country to invest in when
SWOT analysis is considering, think for example, Zim is looking for mine investors, Tokyo didnt stand up quickly as volunteer , why he knows it is risky to invest in Zim and all countries stricken by corruption around Africa. Ghanas has been rated the best by investors eg Ashanti merger

(3) It happened again pre94 in SA we witnessed sad era/dark cloud during the sanctions as a result of bad governance by whites who in turn are blaming the ANC who turned around the country instead of supporting the viable political party and stop criticizing. I will keep on sharing this with you as Business Analyst

Mphatjie Monareng 7/14/2009 2:55:08 PM
There is nowhere in my article where I said Obama should have used the occassion of his Ghana visit to give handouts. I criticise his hypocrisy. Why praise a corrupt country such as Kenya whilst damning a similarly corrupt Zimbabwe? Unfortunately, no one in this forum seems interested in tackling this question, which is actually the thrust of my article. Can anyone tell me: what is the difference between Robert Mugabe and Mwai Kibaki?

Chris G 7/14/2009 2:57:01 PM
I think if Obama had to read this letter he might think twice about calling himself AFRICAN-American. If this letter is what being African is about then he might want to re-think acknowledging his African half.

cj@ debbie 7/14/2009 2:57:07 PM
Well said!!! Unfortunately this continent will always be the "victim" and the West will always be to blame. I'm only sorry Obama sugar coated what he said - he should not have pulled any punches and told the whole bloody lot to pull finger.

dennis 7/14/2009 2:57:25 PM
It is quite clear we have been told not to do anything , blame everybody and wait for the second coming that is when JZ says the ANC will be voted out , then we can start to work and take responsibility for our actions

Anon1 @ Andre 7/14/2009 2:58:12 PM
They were sure in worse shape than most African countries. The point I'm trying to make is that hand-outs have been given to Africa for decades and still no end in sight. What is the difference then between a country making a success and others not? I would say its because Africans sit in self pitty and play the blame game rather than try and succeed.

Houston 7/14/2009 3:01:21 PM
@Mphatjie Monareng - I can tell you, the one is the president of Zimbabwe, and the other the president of Kenya :-)

Tickled pink 7/14/2009 3:01:54 PM
You are a sad case of a politically uneducated mindset. I am sorry, but you cannot play the blame game - it is sad, and jaw-dropping that someone could be so narrow-minded and utterly disgraceful. You are the perfect example of how people should not be thinking - people should take control of their own destinies and future, and stop blaming the west of white folk for ruining their lives. Please, it does not mean that if you know how to put ink to paper that you actually have an opinion worth publishing. Obama is an inspirational leader, and just because his forefathers come from Africa does not mean that he owes Africa anything. Come on, get real!

Buckwheat 7/14/2009 3:02:41 PM
You lost me already when you said that the west WAS responsible for the Zim situation. Couldn't carry on reading - sorry for you!

Muhammad Akoojee 7/14/2009 3:03:04 PM
Mwai Kibaki polishes Obama's shoes and Bob does not...

SimonP 7/14/2009 3:03:40 PM
Samsam please stop your nonsense. "ANC who turned around the country" Lets have some stats to back that up. You are a Business Analyst?? Now that is funny.

NvV 7/14/2009 3:03:52 PM
@FISH – So now we have the Majority rule over the minority – so what is that called in terms of your clever definition. As for sanctions, it makes you self-sufficient, stimulates creativity and focus investment in own economy.

Ederik 7/14/2009 3:13:09 PM
The successive Western governments gave Africa hospitals, schools, dams, electricity, roads etc. so that the current leaders can drive their Western or European luxury cars and not donkeys anymore! Without the whites Africans would still have lived in mud huts.

mduve 7/14/2009 3:13:31 PM
@ Mphatjie - true son of the african soil. Now am starting to see your true colors. Keep on posting such articles lol - I might do what my partner did on the 22 April 2009. Ill do the same come 2014 - my local vote will go for COPE and National defintely uKhongoloze. am impressed dude - afta all COPE,UDM and IFP leaders are from the liberation movement.

The Beginner 7/14/2009 3:14:00 PM
The author is welcome to go north to Zim. Permanently. Stop hiding behind the past Monareng. Your own capabilities are now your own undoing. Obama is right. The only aspect which will change your future is your own doing. The past has nothing to do with it.
Fish. If it wasn't for the end of communism, Apartheid will still be around. You have to admit, it's very powerful. Even today it's still used as an excuse. Sanctions just prevented the old regime to spend more money on the TBVC states. Sanctions complimented the advance of society and technology in RSA pre-1994. Today, the current society struggles to maintain exising infrastructure and services. Zim is simply pathetic and we support 4Mil of them in RSA today. Compliments of Mugabe and his veterans. Sanctions are in place against despotic individuals in ZIM and they are also in government. The people choose and they have chosen wrong: aka Zim scenario. Hey Monareng. How long did you walk and cr@p on Afica's material wealth and did nothing about it? In isolation? You could have ruled the world if you actually transformed the material into wealth. Viva Obama! Africa's "alpha male"!

Roenel 7/14/2009 3:16:24 PM
Who cares where he originated from, he is still and African and will think like an African. I had my doubts when he was foted as America's first black president. I was waiting for his true colours to show and njannies, he did not dissapoint me. Off course the Westernites will be blames once again for everything, the Africans is to scared to do it the way the Westernites does/did it because they might just succeed and off course that cannot happen..

mduve 7/14/2009 3:20:19 PM
I also dont condon whats happening in Zim, but I think that you've provided us with valuable info Mr. Monareng - pitty that coconut Nthantuwa our so called journo is not here to back it up with facts.

Sanctions? What santions? 7/14/2009 3:20:29 PM
THERE ARE NO SANCTIONS AGAINST ZIMBABWE.

Sinudeity @Monareng 7/14/2009 3:22:43 PM
Yeah Moreng! Go tell JZ to give the billions, that the US has donated to Africa back!

African 7/14/2009 3:22:53 PM
Mphatjie Monareng....one is Kenyan and one is a Zimbambwean to begin with.....

Sinudeity @Monareng 7/14/2009 3:24:23 PM
"The sanctions are hurting Zimbabwe" - Right, and Not Mugabe. Just like back in Apartheid days, the sanctions in SA were BAD for Africa. Hehehe, Monareng, dang, the communist in you, is shining through today.

@ samsam 7/14/2009 3:24:49 PM
and you studied @ ....??? Business Analysts' backside to reason like that. Maybe you should refer to the previous forum re. COPE and learn a bit more!

cindy 7/14/2009 3:26:02 PM
wow mphatjie, what absolute RUBBISH!!! i am very disappointed, you are one of the few regular commentators that actually make sense... on one hand you say "malicious western sanctions" - then you say "I am not, in any way, trying to deny the corruption and the thuggish behaviour of the Zanu-PF government" so YOU tell me, who's at fault? the western countries for posting sanctions, or the ever corrupt Mugabe, who was the REASON for the sanctions....?!?

Sinudeity @WaSvosve 7/14/2009 3:26:07 PM
I agree, Monareng is VERY ignorant.

Jonathan Stead 7/14/2009 3:27:00 PM
Mr. Monareng, you prove the point that an education, and the ability to string words together doesn't necessarily give you insight. Now go your room and do your homework !

FISH 7/14/2009 3:27:42 PM
@ NvV - what are you saying? The minority group (whites) did rule over the majority group (blacks) for many years. That takes intelligence and strenght. Sanctions were one of the reasons Apartheid fell away. South African whites were mostly self-suffient and had their own economy.

samsam @ANON1/DHV/SIMONP 7/14/2009 3:29:42 PM
you dirty racist/less educated/stupid bastards, on what basis do you defend corrupt cronies, is your father amongst the corrupt, devils heeelllll @SIMONP, Im done arguing with you we told you before that you are racist/less educated idiot, I can judge you by means of stupid/childish/ignorant question you have

Charles 7/14/2009 3:31:27 PM
The truth hurts, now a coloured/black president from the west tells africa there F^&#$& up, and all of the sudden everyone is against him and the west because he didn’t tell them what they wanted to hear. Shows the stupidity in this country. I agree 100% with obama and its time africans start waking up. Also if they didn’t issue sanctions what were they suppose to do to stop the problems in Zim ? maybe kill Mugabe ? But then you all would have moaned again that its racism, so effectively the west is always in a catch 22, no wonder they don’t want to help, who would want to help a nation that in time of good they swear at the west, and in time of need they stand there with the hands out begging.

FISH 7/14/2009 3:33:19 PM
To NvV and the Beginner - I think you misunderstood me. The author was complaining about sanctions against Zim. But if there was not sanctions against SA because of apartheid, the whites would still be ruling blacks. Not because the blacks were more powerful or more intelligent. Apartheid was VERY powerful which is why I mentioned the fact that a smal group of people ruling over a large group of people (now that is POWER).

JBird 7/14/2009 3:34:46 PM
I am so glad to read comments above where African people take responsibility for there own future. You know what we can always find someone to blame for every ill that befalls us. It is how you respond that is important. Those who live in the past are dead. Those who live in the future where we all work together to build SA into a first world nation and where we respect each others tradition. We may not need to agree but we should respect. Now stop moaning and go and do something about it.

Houston 7/14/2009 3:36:18 PM
@samsam - the ANC turned the country around alright, took it from 1st world and turned it around into a 3rd world dump - well done to them on that.

Phinah 7/14/2009 3:37:09 PM
Stop blaming everything on the west. Obama is american, and he will always be american, did you expect any miracle on his part? I was so happy when he finally pointed out what Zuma & the entire african population should have realised for a while. STOP, begging, and start cleaning your own country. No one, including Obama, is going to come here and tell us how to have a transparent, accountable government, it start with you, putting your cross where there is service. We have more now that we have ever had, yet we allow people to squander it all away. The truth hurts does it not? Did you expect him to come here with a bag of maize and fill out your buckets. The guilt trip has just run out, you people have exhausted it. This time you are dealing with one of your own "Barack" and he knows exactly the impact of slavery and you are still hanging on about apartheid. Now call I dare you to call him racist

FISH 7/14/2009 3:38:18 PM
The Beginner - it takes power and intelligence for a minority group to rule a majority group for more than 300 years. IF it wasn't for whites, there would be no electricity,buildings,computers, vehicles etc in this country. Whites brought civilisation to Africa and now Africans are trying to destroy it.

McVanS 7/14/2009 3:38:52 PM
Myself I look at it in a more basic fashion. Africans need to resurrect Africa. I can only assume that the rest of the world is getting tiered of Africa standing with open hands asking for “bietjie geldjies” and who can blame them. At work we have some Zimbabweans. Smart, intelligent and hardworking. One of them used to talk pretty much the same sentiments. One day I just got fed up about “poor” Zimbabwe so I asked him one simple question... What would have happened I old BOB was white. Needless to say we have not spoken about Zim since. Africans in Africa needs to take responsibility and stop blaming everything and everyone else for their situation. In short Africans have the steering wheel.... now drive. If you keep looking behind you, you’ll never see what is in front of you. Where it ends is up to Africa.

Joe Jackson 7/14/2009 3:40:41 PM
Obama's ratings are falling FAST in the USA.
He is not qualified to be the President of America. Finally Africa will wake up!!!!

Sinudeity @Charles 7/14/2009 3:41:04 PM
I agree, Obama told Africa, to STOP BEING CORRUPT, and now they are turning against him. Do all of you agree with Corruption in government? Cause that would explain a alot!

Puhleez 7/14/2009 3:42:38 PM
Mphatjie, did the West tell Zanu PF to declare war on individual property rights, use the police force to brutalise ordinary Zimbabweans, implement ridiculous price and exchange controls and interfere with the independence of the judiciary (to name a few things), with the result that foreign direct investment completely dried up and hyper inflation followed? Is the West's fault that the Zim government destroyed the country's most important industry and then responded to the economic crisis they created by printing more money and telling foreign aid donors and the IMF to beep off?? Who's idea was it to send Zim troops to the Congo? No Mphatjie, I am convinced that you are actually a right-winged white, trying to make the racists look clever. Please read the book "When a crocodile eats the sun" by Peter Godwin, which describes how Mugabe’s tactic of blaming the British and other Western nations for his own immoral behaviour and greed has kept him in power for decades, while he destroyed the country he was supposed to serve. Seems you may have been taking a few lessons from the old man?

Mphatjie Monareng 7/14/2009 3:44:39 PM
It’s obvious that many of those denying the destructive role of western governments in Africa have never read (or don’t even know of the existence of) this book: How Europe Underdeveloped Africa. Until you read that book, you may never really appreciate the suffering that Africa has suffered in the hands of the west. But that doesn’t mean we African are asking for pity and handouts from the west. The last thing we want is to be pitied.

Arthur 7/14/2009 3:45:09 PM
The West will never understand the African mentality.Obama is American NOT African. Stop moaning and accept the reality that with a few exception Africa is manipulated by the old saying "might is right" As a journalist I'm surprised at your arrogance and lack of understanding of Africa's political woes.Your comments are so boring. Wake up and get a life!!!

Terry 7/14/2009 3:48:30 PM
After 50 years its time for Africa to get off its backside, get rid of incompetent leaders and get on with it. You cannot live off aid forever. You need to pull yoourself up by your bootstraps.

Chris G @SamSam 7/14/2009 3:48:42 PM
Wow, you're another example of Africa's finest. With those debating skills it's just a matter of time before you make it to parliament.

James Asak 7/14/2009 3:51:16 PM
The truth is always bitter.We Africans find it difficult to accept reality and facts of life. We should face facts and accept we have destroyed our continent for too long due to our greed and personal gains.We like to blame our predicaments on the rest of the world whilst we are our own worst enimies.It is a known fact that we have never had any effective government in Africa except for Ghana that seems to be moving in the right direction.It is the bitter truth for all African countries to swallow our pride and sort out our problems head on rather than carrying bible all over the the place and expecting manner to fall from heaven.Heaven help those that help themselves and let charity begin at home. As hash as it might be this is a wake up call.

Sinudeity @Joe Jackson 7/14/2009 3:53:48 PM
Obama not 'qualified'? What about JZ? The man didnt even finish primary school. Obama > JZ (BY MILES)

James Asak 7/14/2009 3:54:08 PM
The truth is always bitter.We Africans find it difficult to accept reality and facts of life. We should face facts and accept we have destroyed our continent for too long due to our greed and personal gains.We like to blame our predicaments on the rest of the world whilst we are our own worst enimies.It is a known fact that we have never had any effective government in Africa except for Ghana that seems to be moving in the right direction.It is the bitter truth for all African countries to swallow our pride and sort out our problems head on rather than carrying bible all over the the place and expecting manner to fall from heaven.Heaven help those that help themselves and let charity begin at home. As hash as it might be this is a wake up call.

Dennis 7/14/2009 3:54:25 PM
I think that Africans that hold there fellow Africans to a much lower level of accountability for their evil actions are the biggest racialist and hypocrites that there is , what they are saying is that a White man's evil is far greater that a black man's evil , how racist is that! , what Obama is trying to say and what should be said that both are not acceptable ever Period

Dennis 7/14/2009 3:54:25 PM
I think that Africans that hold there fellow Africans to a much lower level of accountability for their evil actions are the biggest racialist and hypocrites that there is , what they are saying is that a White man's evil is far greater that a black man's evil , how racist is that! , what Obama is trying to say and what should be said that both are not acceptable ever Period

James Asak 7/14/2009 3:54:44 PM
The truth is always bitter.We Africans find it difficult to accept reality and facts of life. We should face facts and accept we have destroyed our continent for too long due to our greed and personal gains.We like to blame our predicaments on the rest of the world whilst we are our own worst enimies.It is a known fact that we have never had any effective government in Africa except for Ghana that seems to be moving in the right direction.It is the bitter truth for all African countries to swallow our pride and sort out our problems head on rather than carrying bible all over the the place and expecting manner to fall from heaven.Heaven help those that help themselves and let charity begin at home. As hash as it might be this is a wake up call.

Sinudeity @Monareng 7/14/2009 3:55:27 PM
Theres another book you should read:
"How Africa underdeveloped Africa".

@the Author - Great Article 7/14/2009 3:55:40 PM
Obama is AMERICAN, considers himself AMERICAN, is loyal to AMERICA. haha! Imagine THAT. So there you have it... a black man considered, and thinks of himself, as an AMERICAN and NOT AFRICAN. hahaha! OK, blame APARTHEID now. hahaha! But there is a subtle lesson brother: Sort your own country out yourself!! Take responsibility yourself!! Work yourself!! Be accountable for yourself!! Your country!! your problems! now start to fix them instead of whining and begging!!! You people are lazy, hypocritical, and short-sighted. WAKE UP!

Sinudeity @Arthur 7/14/2009 3:56:29 PM
Whatever Arthur, go comment on the sports forums please. Oh, before you do that, tell Africa to give the BILLIONS, they have received as aid, back to the evil west.

Spiderman @ Monareng 7/14/2009 4:03:03 PM
"How Europe underdeveloped Africa" Why is it Europe's responsibility? The oldest existence of human life was found in South Africa. They should be the parents? Why blame Europe for our mistakes? Maybe cause Africans don't have balls?

African 7/14/2009 4:04:54 PM
Obama has always been immatured and idiotic. Don't waste your time on him. I never was in favour of him being a president of the US. The majority of the population there is white, and therefore a majority government must rule, unless it's either a window dressed administration or Obama is sucking up the whitemans' cock. Afterall, the US needs to clear and mend its world image now than ever after all the wars in Somalia, Iraq, Afganistan etc etc

Lucky Ralawe to Sinudeity 7/14/2009 4:07:04 PM
And you also go and tell the West to bring back all the minerals they stole from Africa in order to build their economies

Karen 7/14/2009 4:07:10 PM
I used to think that apartheid was a bad idea and that it was unfair, but the more I read this kind of hogwash and the more exposure I get to the "African" mentality, the more I think that perhaps Verwoerd had a point. Maybe he was just trying to protect a sector of society from being exposed to such brain-dead mentalities and sometimes I feel I need lots of protection because my word, the gullibility, stupidity and arrogance is something else!!!

James 7/14/2009 4:08:03 PM
get off the internet and get back to work. The ANC needs you. Idiot. Always someone else's fault. Please find a high bridge and fall off it. Do us all a favour.

Point Blank 7/14/2009 4:08:50 PM
Monareng, white people do not deny the role Western countries had on Africa, but let's look at present times and not past times. Present times shows leaders of corruption, dictatorship, murder, war-mongering, wealth accumilation, etc... these are all as a direct result of themselves. No Western country influence in that my friend. The problem is as much as white people admit the destruction they played in Africa, an African will never admit the failings on their side, why is that?

Anon1 @ Samsam 7/14/2009 4:12:10 PM
And what racist remark have I made. Show me please and I will apologise!

galvitron 7/14/2009 4:14:24 PM
Obama must tow the line when he comes here or else we'll be forced to reject his aid. On a serious note just cause Obama went to Ghana its now Ghana this Ghana that, y'all weren't talking Ghana 2 weeks back. Obama might not respect but he shouldn't undermine our Leaders.

Bonny 7/14/2009 4:15:08 PM
@ Monareng..wow the big, bad, evil West strikes again. Wake up people! Africa causes it's own problems.."But that doesn’t mean we African are asking for pity and handouts from the west. The last thing we want is to be pitied."...yes, you would prefer he handouts.

Brown skin 7/14/2009 4:15:21 PM
Just because Obama's is negroid and of African descent does not make him Africa's or indeed every other developing nation's saviour. Be careful of this man don't let your emotions cloud your analysis of his character. He has failed to critize the Israely bombardment of Palestine, has committed 17000 more troops to Afghanistan and has made stem cell research legal to private instituitions. The latter could have more dire conseqences for humanity than we realise now.

Pati 7/14/2009 4:22:21 PM
Mphatjie, stop making flimmsy excuses for Africa. The truth hurts. African must find their own solution. If we,as African, allow ourselves to be power mongers, then we should reap the fruit. Obama has nothing to do with but he is trying to highlight the Afrian shortcomings.

Tomasi 7/14/2009 4:24:08 PM
Many company initiatives fail due to the attitude of company owners, managers and those in charge of running business affairs in several occasions and often times not due to the inept nature of those entrusted with the tasks at hand to get things done. If only Caucasians/pale-looking folks could come into terms with the fact that the pre-dominance of their influence has come to an end by the definitive 1994 election and the penultimate enforcement of economic reforms by the promulgation of BEE/AA and EE in 1996 and concede that a cooperative way of doing things hand in hand with their African counterparts is the only solution, SA will never be fully healed and they will not be able to realize their goals and/or dreams.

simingish 7/14/2009 4:24:43 PM
I was saddened to see Obama going to Ghana Instead of visiting first the place of his birth, pre-school. Shame on you, boy. I have lost respect on you. I wonder what your parents, kenyan in general are saying.

Phinah 7/14/2009 4:25:24 PM
@ Monareng; No one in their right mind denies the impact Europe had in Africa, BUT what is more hurtful, slavery or apartheid? Obama's people suffered worse than africans who were left here, they were taken away from their continent, only to slave away, yet he is not hang on about it. No one will willingly invest billions of dollars only to have politicians run around with big cars. Stop, referring us to history books, dont you know that every written book has a motive (agendas)and it usually reflects the anticipation of the party governing at that time? Just have a look at the history books at this moment, they are all about the ANC being freedom fighters

Benardrovitch Montescovitch 7/14/2009 4:32:05 PM
The truth is that most African leaders are crap and Obama was just pointing this out. Corruption everywhere, genocide everywhere and the perpetaitors still in power and protected by "fellow Africans". The writter of this article, I will not be suprised, is amongst the ruling elites or beneficiary of these bad fruits. The fact is that, Obama who also qualifies for a Kenyan passport has first hand experience of Africa's leadership arrogance. Lets not forget that the Kenyatta regime denied his father a job because of his (Obama Snr.) political beliefs. This affected and still affects the son. Because of this reason, Obama Snr. could not see his son (he had no income)

awori 7/14/2009 4:33:14 PM
The Africa of today is a legacy of Western intrigue and design. Not a single African nation--SA included, has been able to free itself from the intrigue and designs of the WEST---their governments and hawkish multinational corporations.

Obama should have identified with this aspect of Africa's painful history.

YES--Kenya can be example--BUT the example is NOT what transpired--but the struggle and sacrifice brave Kenyans put up to resist a rigged election. That should be emulated by all.We shed blood---and would do it again if any one tries to load themselves on us.The Kenyan experience is a lesson to all tyrants in Africa.

African 7/14/2009 4:33:44 PM
Mphatjie Monareng stop reading other peoples thought (Books) and start thinkin on your own for once

Cramphele 7/14/2009 4:34:37 PM
You know, we constantly keep on banging on the white mans door with regards to our own failure. Yes, they were in Africa, but so were the Chinese... Yes, they did not have much understanding with regards to out ethic backgrounds and made stupid mistakes which counted against us. At least they take responsibility and I've seen it many times! Daily I see them working hard, fixing what was done wrong, but it's us who denies them because we think we know better. Yearly we see billions of $ being given to Africa but it always seems to go missing. The "white man' sends us qualified doctors and sets up hospitals so that some of our families may live another day. They give us aid when our Govt fails to provide us and only to themselves. What is our African Govt doing? Mr Mugabe is in power for 29 years and he ruined Zimbabwe in order to satisfy his own EGO. Zimbabwe feeded people. Our people! We Africans live with a contradicting nature. We want to promote wellbeing to all Africans (incl other African racial groups) but get we take first what we think belongs to us. We point fingers at the white man for being morally corrupted, but then we are ourselves morally corrupted! We blame white man for our failure, but do we take responsibilty for participating in that failure. We blame Colonialism, but what about the countries that were never part of Colonial regimes? Does it make sense? We Africans needs some serious soul searching and soon!

Sivu 7/14/2009 4:37:36 PM
Very well put Mphatjie! The sad thing about all this is that Obama KNOWS all of these things yet he ignores them to appease his masters. That man's a liar, he made similar distortions a few weeks ago re: the struggles of the people of Palestine.

gastongue 7/14/2009 4:40:21 PM
Obama speech is great and straightforward. Whoever takes his speech seriously, will make his country be like Ghana just in a matter of couple years from now.

realist 7/14/2009 4:43:53 PM
What, did you expect him to arrive and start giving away free money? The whole point of the speech was that the people of Africa should stop waiting for handouts and get off their asses and do something for themselves, and once they do that, the west will be happy to lend a helping hand. Why doesn't anyone seem to get that...? Time to stop blaming EVERYONE ELSE and take responsibility for what's going on here.

Nicholas 7/14/2009 4:47:15 PM
It is about time that the West stop all aid to Africa. How long must this go on - another 100 years? Maybe if Africans did not get ANY handouts they will start to reap what they sow, and not reap what others have sown. And to all those who jump at the chance to curse the West and say - never again will Africa be colonised - they are both right and wrong. They are right because the West will never dare to do it again, and they are wrong because the Chinese are already busy buying up Africa, farm by farm, mine by mine.

Zululizayo 7/14/2009 4:49:01 PM
What is ZIDERA? I think most of you must take time and read about ZIDERA before blaming one man fo rthe collapse of the Zimbabwe economy. You have been brainwashed to think that only Zanu thugs and Mugabe were under sanctions. Did Zimbabwe get any balance of payment support from Britton Woods Institutions? Why was it like that, is Zimbabwe Mugabe? Decolonise you minds and start think rationally. Just because you now speak English doesn't mean you are clever, you are still a fool. Ma uyibhare uyibhare

Sean 7/14/2009 4:52:05 PM
The west is to blame.No rain, its to hot, Blame the west. Getting tied of the west.

Buffe 7/14/2009 4:53:44 PM
This is not about blaming anybody, it should about the west taking responsiblity and us as human beings acknowledging our past faults and rectify them so that future generations can not undergo the same experiences and hardships. Obama should accept the role the west has playd and still plays everyday in the governance of our continent.....

Seer Santi @ Brown Skin 7/14/2009 4:54:56 PM
Correct Sir. I emphatically agree with your statement, and encourage others to read your comment. Do not, under any instance, over look Obama, and again, be careful of this man... his true colours are still to shine through, and i can see them to be red. The funny thing is, up until the US pres race, no African knew of his existence, or cared to. Now there is a black leader, and immediately he is categorized as great. Again, try not to be short-sighted, and realize that he is nothing less than an America, nothing to be proud of if you are African. Dont stop. Think.

Point Blank@African 7/14/2009 4:56:50 PM
African, you are disgusting. A disgraceful racist of the worst kind. Did you take part in the xenophobic attacks because you sound like the type who would.

Point Blank@African 7/14/2009 4:56:51 PM
African, you are disgusting. A disgraceful racist of the worst kind. Did you take part in the xenophobic attacks because you sound like the type who would.

Puhleez 7/14/2009 4:57:54 PM
Mphatjie, I hear you and I agree that there is nothing "pure" or "fair" about how the West does business. There is no denying that the priority of the West is to secure wealth for their own people, whether or not this comes at the expense of other nations. But claiming that the West is behind Zimbabwe's downfall, when this country was clearly ruined by its own (African) leader, is not the way to go about supporting that argument. If anything, you should conveniently forget to mention Zim the next time you are debating whether or not the West can be blamed for the weakness of many African economies.

stoopid article 7/14/2009 5:04:37 PM
NEWS24, PLEASE STOP THESE CR@P ARTICLES BY THIS IDIOT. THIS ANC-MALEMA STYLE ANTAGONISING TO GET A RESPONSE IS A WASTE OF ALL OUR TIMES.

Dennis 7/14/2009 5:07:48 PM
Can someone tell me why other parts of the world that were colonialized and exploited by the same countries are much more developed , could it be because they started to take responsibility for their actions , held themselves and their leaders to accountable , did not blame others and did not wait for hand-outs but did it themselves

Tired arguments 7/14/2009 5:23:25 PM
I am black african but i also agree these tired excuses of blaming everyone but ourselves on the continent's mess is really TIRED and OLD. I agree with Obama - let us just be serious and get on with development. Its like 40-50 years after independence and some countries are still with development left by the colonisers - nothing has changed yet we have the resources - so where is the will to do the right thing. Obama just said it as it should be said SIMPLE - enough of blame games.

onthefence 7/14/2009 5:40:57 PM
I'm torn on this article. On the one hand, certain African leaders expect handouts and do not take responsibility for their failures, and instead choose to blame everything on the west. But there is no denying that the west, in the past, have devastated Africa, plundered it's resources and hence created much social tension! SA is a prime example - surely those that were removed from their land during apartheid without compensation should get that land back? Whites are still occupying those areas and have not paid for ANYTHING. So the west is NOT entirely blameless people, although the Mugabes etc of this world do harp on about it too much! @Karen - if you hate the African mantality so much then get lost? This is Africa retard!

sayitlikeitis. 7/14/2009 5:48:36 PM
I have to admit, i didn't read the entire artical as it seemed the usual drivel and just like Days of Our Lives we all know the ending.

However I was intrigued by your opinion that you feel Obama is wrong in saying that the sanctions imposed on Zimbabwe were not the downfall of the economy. Madness I tell you.

If this is the case, how come did South Africa not falter during Apartheid when we also had sanctions against us(I cant ever remember having to pay a few million rand for a loaf of bread)? Maybe just maybe its because old Robert Mugabe had some kind of influence in how that country went down. Is that so hard to believe and thus is Obama's outlook on the situation not even slightly correct?

sayitlikeitis 7/14/2009 5:55:11 PM
Dear Mr Galvitron,

"Obama must tow the line when he comes here or else we'll be forced to reject his aid."

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. I doubt anyone in real need of that aid would have the same outlook as you. Don't eat for a few days and go live in a drain and see if you would have such a strong opinion just because the man might be telling the truth, and yes not always pretty, but you gotta face it sometime.

Aid by the way is not a new keyboard for that computer you using, its to save peoples lives.

ouklip 7/14/2009 6:03:39 PM
@simigish - Obama was born in the US. * Ohinah - Obama's family was never slaves in the US.
He said what needs to be understood by Africa. Clean your own home.

mzomuhle ngiba 7/14/2009 6:08:05 PM
i am not gonna be long!Obama is not a leader he is manager!he is full of this american arrogance,that is what he is!so what did you expect from him!

Gil Santos 7/14/2009 6:20:25 PM
Monareng surprises me with the contradictions but especially the ignorance of the article. So Western targeted sanctions against 200 ZANU PF individuals has resulted in the destruction of a previously fully functioning country? These so called sanctions are being applied by only 10-15% of the countries in world. What about the other 85-90% that are NOT applying sanctions against Zimbabwe. Mugabe hates the West, but he's got the majority of rest of the world to trade with. When will Africans wake up and see that Africa's main problem is their leaders and their mentality.

Let's not forget that Obama was abandoned by his black father and was bought up by his white mother and white gandparents. He does not have an African mentality.
Can you just imagine the African uproar if a white US president had said the exact same words as Obama did in Ghana.

Boerseun 7/14/2009 6:35:15 PM
Now my bru, you have the cat by the tail. Looking for excuses has always been one of Africa's pittfalls. Wake up and start saying nit as it is. Africans are the reason that Africa is in the bad state it is in.

Tony Dakyns 7/14/2009 7:14:01 PM
Whether we like it or not Obama's assessment is right on the button. Zimbabwe has been brought down by it's government motivasted by personal greed and a total disregard for the welfare of it's citizens. If we Africans do not get our act together and grow-up we will continue to spiral into poverty with no hope of foreign investment.

Bemused 7/14/2009 7:37:52 PM
Why is it always the west that is the bad bunch?. If they are such an evil bunch why is Africa dealing with them. Why not just trade with the eastern countries. They are much stronger and more dependable than the western nations by all accounts. And why is it that Africa always goes begging for money from the West. Why not go begging to the big, rich eastern countries. And as for Monareng, you are a perfect example of why Africa is always frowned upon by the West. I think you need to re-evaluate, as does most of Africa. Just like Obama said. If you want hand outs from the West, that is. It's a shame that Africa battles the way it does really because it has so much potential. Ah well, maybe some time in the future things and attitudes will change and life for everybody over here will be much better.

zak 7/14/2009 7:44:33 PM
obama is here for his own agendas.what the author is highlighting here is that africans should wake up and look into real causes of problems in our continent and the world in general.lets look at the effects the involvement of westerns did to us(blacks/whites)in africa.motive is money obviously.

Ja-Ja-ja 7/14/2009 9:37:33 PM
once again a terribly boring atricle and the same sort of responses,black ,white,west,east,africa,normal crap,anyway dont matter the coulour of his skin his a politician and he is there to blow smoke up your arse,Africa will remain as it is,the west will remain as it is,history cannot be changed,please lets get some interesting debate going,not the same boring carp with a diffrent headline,white,black,blah blah blah

Paul Grant 7/14/2009 11:35:19 PM
@ mphatjie, funny that someone like you who voted for the ANC blame the US of A and the rest of the western world for Zimbabwe and other african countries demise. The ANC for whom you voted enlisted the help of these western countries to bring SA to its knees in the 80's against apartheid. Now thats what I call a hipocrite. Why on earth do they keep publishing letters from an idiot, the same old blah, lah, blah. There has been a serious change in letters published lately, they seem to be leaning over to one side, a side I shall not mention.

Suck it up, feels godd doesn't it.

Paul Grant 7/14/2009 11:39:25 PM
Mphatjie, you have just earned your village idiot badge, the ANC will welcome you into a position in government./ Well done dude.

martin 7/14/2009 11:53:27 PM
What a stupid narrow minded and useless article.

Brandon 7/15/2009 12:14:49 AM
I keep hearing about how the west is stealing all africa's resources and keeping africa poor. What people fail to realise is that africa sells its resources to the west freely. I mean if they are greedy and accept bribes then they must accept responsibility for this.

Africa will stay poor until lazy people get of their asses and start working.

AntiAfrica 7/15/2009 12:51:05 AM
I totally agree Americans are arrogant and have their own agendas but to blame them for Africa's corrupt, incompetent situation is not really fair. Africa need to educate people not to vote for these idiots and stop corruption them self. Africa should take responsibility for their own situation only then can it change.

Glen 7/15/2009 1:19:20 AM
What everyone seems to forget is the Rhodesia had COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS against it and a civil war costing at least a million a day and the economy started thriving. That was due to the white man's ability to THINK and react and not sit back blame the sanctions. Blacks only think as far as the next hand-out

aid 7/15/2009 5:58:58 AM
the person who wrote this is sick and doesnt know what he is talking about open your eyes bro dont blame the west for mugabe fault who is starving or betting people its mugabe.so what if he can feed his people he have to get out and let others do it he is too old. your not born to be a president yo serve the people i csn go on and on what i can say to you whatever bee your getting its making you very blind your wearing claps where are you living if your in zim or za you do see corruption but too much denial very sad and too selfish of you.

peter 7/15/2009 6:11:05 AM
this guy has got mbeki's mindset that destroyed zimbabwe. no shame at all. his analysis leaves a lot to be desired.

AJ @ Mphatjie 7/15/2009 6:15:47 AM
I am tired of poeple not understanding what sanctions were in place. READ FIRST. They were sanctions against travel and assets of the 'leader's - not sanctions against doing business there. People did not do busines because tbey did not want to because there was no rule of law and the Reserve Bank GOvernor was raiding pruvate bank accounts, remember. Mphatjie, do you delibarately ignore facts that do not help you make your point?

Sean 7/15/2009 7:27:52 AM
@mzomuhle ngiba
JZ is not a leader he is manager!he is full of this African arrogance,that is what he is!so what did you expect from him!

bodhi 7/15/2009 7:29:33 AM
@Mphatjie
Your knowledge on Africa seems to be very limited. In fact most people in sub-saharan Africa work very hard to run their business. They don't blame the West, actually with every local business I've dealt with, if they complain then they do it about their nepotic and corrupt governments. This whole whining about the West, colonialism, apartheit and slavery seems to be a domain of South African students with too much time and an internet access. Go into Africa and check out the people. I've met the most interesting business people (awake, quick and very very business driven)
in the places I expected it least.

antoninchina 7/15/2009 7:34:11 AM
Continue going through life with your eyes closed, hopefully you fall of a bridge !

Eagle 7/15/2009 7:52:06 AM
Some people just do not grow up - they stay children who are looking for some else to blame because they think they are blameless. We are 15 years down the road from 1994 and some are behaving still like little children who want to blame everyone else for the mistakes they (children) have made. GROW UP!!!! Your article is using up precious space on news24' server that could be used for a more educative article.

Mike Turnbull 7/15/2009 7:59:54 AM
Once again the platitudes are trotted out to explain why most African countries cant find their own buttocks, with both hands, with all the lights on! Whilst the people of Africa cry out to be allowed to develop to their full potential, the corrupt and nepotistic leaders of Africa, largely self appointed, protect each others kleprocracies fiercly, in case they too, fall under the spotlight. Africa deserves better; Africa better get its act in gear, because the purse strings of the affluent nations are being drawn closed, and the blame culture of Africa just doesnt cut any ice anymore. As noted by President Obama. And by the way, he is an American, and President of the USA. He is not going to devote one iota more time to this continent than any of his predecessors, unless there is a photo opportunity. If Africa wants to advance, look to yourselves.

Sinudeity 7/15/2009 8:08:31 AM
LOL, funny watching all these "Africans" get upset, when Obama says that Africa should STOP BEING SO CORRUPT! Stop defending your corrupt leaders.

Gregg 7/15/2009 8:09:05 AM
It boggles my mind how people can still believe the bull&*&t pouted by Mugabe and his SA cronies on how the sanctions are responsible for the state of the economy. The sanctions were targeted people - targeted specifically at Zanu henchmen who were embezzling state funds overseas - or going on luxury shopping trips in the west, or putting their kids through expensive private schools while the rest of the population was starving!

allan 7/15/2009 8:09:32 AM
Reading the comments above I am reminded again of the enormous chasm between black and white in this country and the world in general.........perhaps multi-culturalism does not work??!!

Tee 7/15/2009 8:34:08 AM
Wake up and smell the coffee, Obama is American and was voted in by America, he is there to serve America NOT Africa. Grow up

Marko 7/15/2009 8:34:31 AM
He is arrogant, what were you expecting?

Ja Ja ja 7/15/2009 8:36:40 AM
I would say over 95% of responses show that this article is crap and that we are tired of the same lame excuses from Africa,just get on with it or to coin a phrase' just do it'

Russell 7/15/2009 8:41:14 AM
African denial to the extreme.

Mia 7/15/2009 8:56:08 AM
Oh cry me a river. The man is an American, not an African. He's also completely right. What use is it to point fingers at the so-called West as an excuse for everything? Grow up.

Brenda 7/15/2009 9:02:54 AM
I really think that we should rather stop putting our hands out for funds from other countries. We should be educating the kids of Africa to become good strong leaders in their countries and STOP encouraging corruption by supporting it. Africa will never raise up from corruption as long as people are prepared to pay.

darkwing 7/15/2009 9:06:12 AM
Our dear letter writer proves that Africa is doomed. Mentalities like this abound and nothing will ever improve. Africa will just fall further and further behind and blame more and more. What does the blaming help in any case?

vernell 7/15/2009 9:16:07 AM
The fundamental aspect of the writer's lamentation should actually have been centered around the precept that "CORRUPTION IS INDEED AN AFRICAN ODESSEY", almost a god-given right that African Leadership consider it an ultimate quest to demonstrate to the world a propensity of self-distruction without provocation. Assuming leadership for the emancipation of the African person in liberation is NOT a directive of retribution for the evils of imperialism. Nor is it a blanket endorsement for mediocrity of failed leadership under the pretext of 'this is Africa' and the standards of good governance CANNOT apply equally yet the consequence are similar in the west as in Africa. BUT alas we can excuse an African Leader because??? Now to suffer at the hands of imperialism is almost acceptable BUT to suffer at the hands of your liberator is insufferable, an indictment upon the concious of the human race in particular the African People. Corruption is an oddessey and we - African's - endorsed it wholeheartedly, our suffering is of our own making, our own ignorance because WE ARE AFRICAN'S, we are authors of our destiny whether in greed, corruption, self-entitlement, self-importance, valian or victim we just fail dismally to break the shacles of our past so that our future remains contracted to our past. How can we move forward ever, we constantly look back notwithstanding the challenges of our present because looking at your own faults is the hardest thing to do. So blaming our past remained our greatest asset and our children for generation to come have to bore the brunt of our inability to look ahead.

Nita 7/15/2009 9:19:19 AM
Get a grip on reality. Obama is the AMERICAN President - not some special President for Africa! He has his own issues in his own country to deal with. Did you think that because he has a link to Africa (a father that he did not grow up with) that Africa was going to be his pet project? Africa needs to wake up and take responsibility for their corrupt leaders who doesn't care about the little people. We see it daily in our own country. I am so sick of Africans who keeps on looking for answers/remedies from others instead of tackling the issues themselves.

Eva Bogiages 7/15/2009 9:40:05 AM
Oh Monareng, catch a wake up, for Africa's sake! African states should stop blaming the West and learn to take responsibility for their own incompetencies! Good grief, when will Africa GROW UP and MOVE ON? Learn from someone like Obama - he is spot on in his assessments. Africans are apathetic, in denial and so quick to blame others for their failure to uplift themselves. The truth hurts, doesn't it?

AMB 7/15/2009 9:49:37 AM
The best thing to happen to Africa is the Global Economic Crisis. The West can't throw money at Africa anymore. Now Africa can start earning their keep like everyone else. Boo hoo, evil West who have helped these African governments to enrich themselves. Wake up Africa and stop blaming everyone for your stupidity. The world can only take so much crap from this continenet - remember Peter and the Wolf??

thabo 7/15/2009 9:51:01 AM
i think it is about time we stand up and do it for ourselves we should stop waiting for hand outs from the west i hate it i am from a poor family living in a shack from my school years till university as i am writing this letter i work as a consultant in IT Network engine and never looked back i am tired of oorskiet

nb 7/15/2009 9:52:52 AM
Its all been said .... so how much time do we give after insulting Western Powers can we ask for more... more money more help re the guilt they should be feeling. LOL. One day there will be no-one listening as they will have heard it all before.Every nation on this planet has suffered at the hands of another they just learned everything they could from the ruling nation and then did it for them selves.When does Africa learn not the bad we seem very good at that,but take the best from other countries and put it into practice.Fingure pointing that fingure will eventuall point right back.

M 7/15/2009 10:04:18 AM
Wow, now suddenly he is no longer the "son of the soil".. I knew this was coming. Africans expected that the rest of the world would now simply just give them more money so that everyone could drive a Merc. Poor Obama, he found out what Africa is all about and boy must he be ashamed to have African blood in him.

ashk 7/15/2009 10:36:05 AM
The sanctions are in place against members of the illegitimate ZANU-PF regime, not against Zimbabwe.

pavlov's dog 7/15/2009 10:43:36 AM
Funny how sanctions were not so 'malicious' when they were in place against the evil apartheid regime.Funny how Africans ecstatically embrace western culture when it suits them.Funny how so many African leaders are historically barbaric,thieving murderers.Funny how a continent so rich in mineral wealth cannot feed the majority of it's people.Funny how greedy capitalist pigs are a species not confined to the west only. Funny how western money always seems to mop up the messes Africans make.Sad that we still haven't woken up and smelt the Kenyan coffee-Barack Obama owes this continent absolutely nothing.............

Anon1 7/15/2009 10:48:01 AM
Africans in general display signs of "batered women syndrome" where women get abused by a loved one and not leave them. If the dictator as a liberator abuses the citizens of a country, the abused will try and make all kinds of excuses to justify the actions, but will not be able to formulate one rationale argument why they still believe in the abuser!

shiza T 7/15/2009 10:49:43 AM
Sanctions are on Mugabe's head and no one elses... i also find it so rich that African leaders love to talk big and antagonise the west and then in the very next breath with fewer reporters around , ask for more money . That kind of rhetoric (eg:mugabe/malema) is veiled incitement of fear for the 'Big Bad old enemy' who doesn't even exist anymore and hides the fact that life for the majority even under the oppression of colonial powers was easier (there was food!). There are no african solutions , only solutions ! or does 1+1=11 here and 2 everywhere alse in the world?

nameless 7/15/2009 10:50:58 AM
African leaders are corrupt just like some western leaders

Pieter 7/15/2009 10:53:00 AM
Unfortunately there are no pills available for Mplatjie's problem.

Mick St.John 7/15/2009 10:59:18 AM
The only bastard responsible for the mess they're in is that weak excuse of a human- Mugabe!!!!...On yeah...& the people because they idiotic enough to vote the snake into power. The reason??? They are afraid. Pleeeese!!! At least the 'brothers' in our country have much more balls & they would have sorted him out a long tome ago!!! By da way. Obama is not 'arrogent'. At least he is doing something & know s what he wants. We can only dream to get a president like that!!! Long live Obama!!!!

Mphatjie Monareng 7/15/2009 11:05:10 AM
There is nowhere in my article where I suggest that Obama should have handed out free bees on the occasion of his Ghana visit -- but people still continue to read the first two paragraphs and base their comments solely on that. There is always a risk when you write more than you are able to read.

sgonondo 7/15/2009 11:06:24 AM
Mphatjie you sound to me like a typical 1st year political science student who normally fumble through an essay without facts. Get a grip, colonies disappeared decades ago and have no control or what so ever of what is happening in Africa. To go to an extent saying that NGO's are civil societies that are made of western people simple exposed you to your lack of understanding of how an economy or society function. I know your type, the type of people who celebrate the so called good speeches by politicians and stop thinking about implementation.

justus 7/15/2009 11:17:39 AM
I think this artical is misinformed. Obama never praised the Kenyan coalition. We can't blame the west after nearly 46 years of independence. In Kenya the biggest problem is tribalism which has killed all the systems in place, president Obama has always highlighted this and the tribe from which the kenyan president comes from, are always infuriated when they hear this kinds of comments. Positive change is required in Kenya in order to alleviate poverty and inequality of wealth distribution, some government departments e.g ministry of finance which also includes income tax services, have only people from the same tribe at top management this has to be changed to avoid any animosity in 2012 elections

Barry 7/15/2009 11:26:58 AM
MM. Are you naive or just plane dumb. These comments of yours are so typical of what a black man would say. It took the colonialists nearly 300 years to build South Africa into a beuatifull first world country, but only 15 years for the black man to turn into a rubbish dump. The sorry part about it is you are not going to stop untill we are a second Zim. Who are you going to blame then? The previous apartheid goverment who's members are mostly in their graves by now? Or President Obama? Anybody but your selves. Unfortunatley I can't agree with Brenda. You can not educate any black african in the hope that someday they will become good strong leaders.

Sour Grapes 7/15/2009 11:41:04 AM
I knew this type of letter would be written as Obama's speech finished. The words such as responsibilty, accountability, get rid of your own dictators and then you can be a partner with the US just wouldn't go down well with many Africans, who thought having a Black US president in the White House meant bigger donations and other benefits maybe a bigger gravy train. Now suddenly Obama uses American rhetoric, when his words don't suit people in Africa.

It hurts to hear the truth sometime but he spoke the truth. We as a continent need to take responsibility and not expect to be bailed out by other countries. We need to earn the rest of the worlds respect and trust.

Obama I salute you.

joe 7/15/2009 11:48:39 AM
Finally i have read from a true AFRICAN, an african who belive in being african. Who is Obama to travel all the way from America to come and lecture on democracy in Africa Zimbabwe and Kenya to be specific. we are sick and tired of these lectures. Keep your America and i will keep my Zimbabwe. Proudly Zimbabwean who does not go around the world preaching the so called democracy whose democracy after all. Zimbabwe is for Zimbabwean fullstop.

Freedom 7/15/2009 11:50:27 AM
The British renegaded on their promise to compensate the White farmers for thier land when the peace was signed. This is what sent Mugabe into the mad rage that we saw......No excuses for Mugabe as he should know better than do what he has done and is still doing but the British were and are still the root of the problem......Treat Africans like animals and WE will behave like animals. Like it or not, Right or wrong, You reap what you sow......

Ollie 7/15/2009 12:00:48 PM
Obama stated facts - when did the Zimbabwe economy go down - let's take all the farms away so that they can now have no production-this destruction of Zimbabwe economy wnet down because of Mugabe - typical let's blame the whites who built the country up in the first place to have a strong economy!!!!!!!!!!

Laughing 7/15/2009 12:01:46 PM
Zimbabwe destruction = Mugabe! SA was also sanctioned and actually performed quite well, what does that tell you! If a country has people who constructively perform and work hard they survive! Stop blaming everyone else for poor living conditions and not having food to eat!

Babooza 7/15/2009 12:12:29 PM
Can we possible blame the west for the torturing and killing of MDC supporters? I hate it when black Africans kill each other and put the blame on the west. Obama is saying we should stop relying on donations. Is that an insult? Typical ANC behavior. If you tell the truth then you are a traitor. Zimbabweans repossessed the land from white farmers and they are still struggling to feed themselves. Maybe we can repossess the mines as well so that when share prices collapse we can blame it on the west.

TC 7/15/2009 12:19:18 PM
You said it the way it is. Well done. The arrogance has not changed.

Justin 7/15/2009 12:38:50 PM
Oh Please! How long are you still going to blame the "West"? Some of the African countries have been independent for over 50 years. 300 years from now, are you still going to be blaming the "West" for Africa's failures? Get a life! It is a sign of maturity to take responsibilities for ones actions, good or bad, Africa MUST grow up or we are all doomed!

Mick St.John@Ollie 7/15/2009 12:46:46 PM
U have a valid point my man. Just be prepared to be thrown with stones because now you will be labeled as an racist...for laying 1 of many FACTS on the table...

DJ 7/15/2009 12:51:46 PM
Poor article!

Typical of a view, "the world (read West) owe me." As oppose to, "I'll help change my own environment."

Maverick 7/15/2009 12:53:59 PM
"They suffer from poverty whilst politicians divide resources amongst themselves in a bloated cabinet." Well said, this is the core problem with Africa's rulers, they steal and enrich themselves to the detrement of the population and when things end wrong they blame the Western nations(Civilisation).
Did you hear how Mogabe is now again looking to the West again with a cupped hand ? And this after they were once the breadbasket of Africa, how did sancions cause this ?, Or was it the destruction of agriculture by a mob of racist barbarians who invaded the farms ?

me@joe 7/15/2009 12:56:20 PM
"Keep your America and i will keep my Zimbabwe. Proudly Zimbabwean" Go back if you love place so much. If Zim is so great why did you come to SA?

breath in 7/15/2009 1:07:48 PM
Okey everybody BREATH IN and OUT and take a chill pill. You all sound so stressed out and Obama is chilling in the White House. Relax and take it easy - life is too short for anger!!

Bill 7/15/2009 1:11:13 PM
What drivel Mphatjie. The fact that Africa is the basket case of the world and not the bread basket is no doubt the fault of the west as well? It those nasty colonialists that caused all Africa's problem. They came here on their fancy sailing ships, raped the land of undiscovered or under utilised mineral wealth. They built schools, hospitals, roads, and dams. They introduced electricity, and and other such wizardry. And then their real crime. Once power was wrestled from the evil colonialists, the colonialists failed to adequately support the poor indigenous people. I wonder who the west blames for the Industrial and Technological revolution.... certainly not Africa.

Puhleez 7/15/2009 1:17:38 PM
But hey, the global banking (financial services) crisis has proven that Western nations are no less corrupt and greedy than African ones - they are just better at hiding it. Many governments in the West were colluding with the banks and fund managers to create an impression of economic success that was nothing more than highly sophisticated fraud. Complicated derivatives and other financial securities were often nothing more than a mechanism to confuse investors into handing over their cash to well educated thieves. Head traders with back office experience were hiding losses behind specialised instruments in multiple accounts. Billionaires were running well organised ponzi schemes. Leading asset managers were transferring client funds to banks to manipulate their balance sheets. Directors were given loans to buy up the company's shares and inflate the share price, which they could not repay when the market collapsed. Etc Etc. So, while we criticise Africans who try to blame the West for their failures, we must also acknowledge that Western governments and economies are far from perfect.

Mphatjie Monareng 7/15/2009 1:58:07 PM
My article is actually more critical of Africa than Obama's speech. So, I really don't understand what this whole fuss is all about. Can someone please explain it to me?

sydney 7/15/2009 1:59:35 PM
what an extraordinary and plain stupid article. and i thought black minds were growing up.Africa will obviously take centuries to come right, if ever.

Nicholas Aussie 7/15/2009 2:09:12 PM
The fault is with you, Obama has common sense and intelligence, not lala land distorting the truth to suit mindless idiots. The great unwashed comes to mind.

Mnike 7/15/2009 2:15:41 PM
I am sure all of you who says Obama is right have never got out of SA. Go to former French Colonies and then start using your brains. You don't know what you are talking about. Take example, Republic of Chad. With so much OIL and so poor, but the French are happily living in there, dictating. They never did anything for Chad except stealing from them. Now the Chinese are in, building roads, infrastructure etc. Where are the Western Governments? Read, get knowleadgeable before you comment.

MA 7/15/2009 2:32:36 PM
Could you please list the "sanctions" the (as always, yawn) wicked West imposed on Zim? I would suggest you do some research; there were NO economic sanctions against Zim or its people, only visa/travel sanctions again TIM and the other idiots. I think Obama was 100% accurate, it's time for Africans to solve their own problems. How many billions have flowed to Africa over the past 50 years? But the people accept that their politicians steal most of it, so I think that tap should be closed. And DON'T tell me they're helpless to do anything.

Mdlambuzi KaNdlangamandla 7/15/2009 2:33:43 PM
For someone to shift the blame of Zimbabwe's economy from Mugabe to the West is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I surely thought Mugabe appealed to the less educated and highly uninformed, but for a columnist to tow the same line is totally unpalatable. The Ian Smith governement was under sanctions but they never ran the economy to the grown. I beleive what Obama said is true. We as Africans need to do some soul searching and start taking responsibilities. What legacy are we leaving behing for the future generations?

Bongi 7/15/2009 2:35:39 PM
The longer we Africans accept to tolerate tyrants like Mugabe, and the longer we keep on blaming everything on the Western superpowers, the further we will be from achieving liberty and socio-economic development on the continent. Mugabe (and his cronies, and his apologists such as yourself) has messed up Zimbabwe. Period!! You are right in one respect though - Obama's tolerance of the post-election violence in Kenya and the subsequent 'coalition government' arrangement. Kibaki, like Mugabe, stole the elections!! The difference is Mugabe did not allow the likes of Kofi Annan to 'mediate'. but tyranny is tyranny - no matter the racial profile of the perpetrator.

Marius 7/15/2009 2:44:26 PM
Yaaaaawn!! This pathetic letter should'nt even be published. Mapatjie darling: Wake up and smell the roses. With your victim attitude Africa will get nowhere. EVER.

Ehrard 7/15/2009 2:48:18 PM
sometimes it is better to keep quiet and make people wonder if you are an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove people right.

reknaw 7/15/2009 2:48:52 PM
I have just finished lunch and after reading this need to go for a dump,Africa look inwards and solve your problems,its only you that is preventing your self moving forward,move into the light,change your mindset as it has remained the same for to long and you will be emancipated

Warren 7/15/2009 2:49:00 PM
Dwell on this and ponder for a minute or two. Where does colonialism begin or end on the African continent. Thousands of years ago Southern Africa was inhabited to a large extent by the Khoi and the San - hence Khoisan. Wonder upon wonder who should appear out of the north and force upon these simple peaceful hunter gatherers and nomadic people their will - none other than the violent and warring forefathers of the current tribes and rulers that inhabit the current South Africa, Zimbabwe and other so called independent African countries etc. This invasion was no more than a form of colonialism. This is like the pot calling the kettle black. Just because one is black does it give one the right to condemn the whites as colonialists. Only after this violent invasion by other black tribes fron the north did the white man come from Europe and force his version of civilization on the then dominant tribes and now it is the man from the East who by buying all the resourses from corrupt African leaders is now exerting his version of colonialism upon Africa. Independent African countries, what a joke we remain dependent on but yet condemn the West. We dare to stand with one hand outstretched demanding aid and yet with the other we show rude signs to the western leaders. Oh cry the beloved continent.

Paddy 7/15/2009 2:51:44 PM
zzzzzzzzz...Africa...zzzzzzz...Africa...zzzzzz

AJ 7/15/2009 2:52:44 PM
Hey Mphatjie, Why always blame the west for all things gone wrong? Elements from the west contributed to some countries condition, not the western peoples but cetain organisations.

EDUCATE yourself on the real AFRICA roots: Listen to the 2nd half of this..:-
Her name is "Ms. Ann" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuEc-nFULY8&feature=related

Glock 22 c 7/15/2009 2:55:35 PM
The people of Zimbabawe got what they voted for! But as always then they blame the white man afterwords ..

Mark 7/15/2009 3:01:40 PM
Wake up Mphatjie cant you recognise the truth? You write like a true affirmative scribe.....

Zakes. 7/15/2009 3:13:05 PM
I think the issue was about Zimbambe but now we have blacks against white people while we are in the same country. We must be united and show the other African continents that South Africa can do something different although we differ in colour but we are brothers and sisters. Forget about what Obama has said and we buillt our country.

Steve 7/15/2009 3:19:21 PM
Why does Africa blame everyone else but themselves for the condition that their countries are in. Well done Obama for letting them know what you think. They thought that because you are "of colour" you would capitulate and back them to the hilt. Well done. F**k them

Notorious 7/15/2009 3:27:38 PM
Cry me a river Mphatjie...

Common sense 7/15/2009 3:28:11 PM
Honestely - common sense clearly is the wrong term, because common sense is not all that common. No sanctions against Zimbabwe had any impact on ordinary people. They specifically targeted Mugabe and members of his regime.

Honestly, when are we going to stop trying to blame other people for our own stuff-ups.

Now Obama's arrogant for pointing out these facts? Get a life and get over it.

Sasha @ Mphatjie 7/15/2009 3:34:09 PM
@ Mphatjie: the problem is that, critical a you may be of African governance, you then attempt to explain this atrocious behaviour by blaming Western governments for the state of the continent. It is not the West's fault, it's the fault of every indifferent citizen in every country in Africa. As long as Africans have a woe-is-me victim mentality, nothing will EVER change for the better.

Mphatjie Monareng 7/15/2009 3:53:20 PM
I am always critical of African leaders, and my letter takes this criticism to a higher level. Read my letter carefully and you'll come across statements such as "and mismanagement by the Zanu-PF government", "[the Kenya coalition govt is] a political conspiracy against ordinary folk", etc. I don't think even Obama can be that straight-talking. So, why am I being accused of condoning corrupt African leaders when I am actually being so harsh in my criticism of their incompetence? Just becuase I criticise the semi-god Obama?

WLR 7/15/2009 3:53:46 PM
Bobby Mugabe and Fidel Castro - cut from the same cloth. They have both been in charge for the last 100years and have both milked their own people for every cent and both blame the West for their woes after it has taken them about 20 to 30 years to really screw up their countries, people and economy. Even the ANC is doing a solid job of messing up so many parts of our economy and the masses just keep voting for them. Opportunity knocks - use YOUR VOTE!

KOBUS 7/15/2009 3:55:06 PM
LOL, this is comedy of the highest order. I'm glad to see that most comments agree... You can't argue with someone as blind to reason as this, so don't even try. It's what we call a "troll" on internet forums, someone who just writes tripe in order to get other people riled up.

Anon 7/15/2009 4:01:12 PM
Strange that the west is the bemoaned as the root of all evil in Africa... go to Zim.. Entrace fees to the national parks etc. are charged in US$ and not Zim$, unless you are Zimbawean?!? Who's being hypocritical now?

JBird @Mphatjie Monareng 7/15/2009 4:25:55 PM
Thanks for the link to that article I will give it a read.

Puhleez 7/15/2009 4:41:04 PM
Mphatjie, when you say things like "And, when these sanctions do not exert enough pressure to agitate the Zimbabwean population against their government, a deliberate propaganda campaign is unleashed to portray Zimbabwe as a country in a state of anarchy." you ARE essentially "trying to deny the corruption and the thuggish behaviour of the Zanu-PF government" and "condoning corrupt African leaders". Reason being that you implying that (1) it is the sanctions that are causing the Zimbabwean population to rise up against their government, not the actions of the Zimbabwean government officials themselves and (2) Zimbabwe is not "in a state of anarchy", this is just a "propaganda campaign" by the West. You are contradicting yourself, Mphatjie, and are therefore inviting people to attack your inconsistencies. However, the fact that you have sparked so much debate means that your article can not have been so badly written, so just ignore some of the unfair statements like "You write like a true affirmative scribe".

Jakes 7/15/2009 4:46:36 PM
Hey mamparatjie, you and your kind dont understand the world... and its not the fault of the world.

Vic 7/15/2009 4:49:37 PM
"arrogant denial of the destructive role that successive Western governments play in Africa" what an arrogant comment from a people that cannot even feed themselves!

IP Nightly 7/15/2009 5:11:31 PM
This guy is a badly informed joke...thank goodness he is in the minority as not many people can be that stupid!

Seiso 7/15/2009 6:13:30 PM
Dude, get real. You solve cholera with soap and water, mostly. It isn't exactly news when you do that. And ZanuPF annihilated at least 10000 people in Matabeleland during the 80's and thousands during and after the recent elections. Maybe they deserve a bit more criticism than to be slapped on the wrists and lamely called "thuggish". Try "murderish". Stop pontificating about Obama. He's not a "semi-god" (sic); he's a world leader with enough balls to call it like he sees it. And he ain't got your Malema-like visual impairment, bro.

vincent 7/15/2009 7:23:25 PM
+1 for Obama
If you kill your farmers there won,t be food and your economy wil go down

fern 7/15/2009 7:42:55 PM
sanctions were imposed on zim because their gov was systematically infringing on human rights you id1ot author.

fern 7/15/2009 7:42:56 PM
sanctions were imposed on zim because their gov was systematically infringing on human rights you id1ot author.

Johannes 7/15/2009 9:55:27 PM
Mphatjie: you're confused. You can't beg for money and shift blame to the donor. So USA is now responsible for Africa?

"the West is not responsible for the destruction of the Zimbabwean economy over the last decade.......This is really a sad observation".

Your conclusion is disconnected from all reality, and beyond arrogant. Since when is the US responsible for the mess in Africa?

Johannes 7/15/2009 9:59:35 PM
Mphatjie - then you comment: "My article is actually more critical of Africa than Obama's speech. So, I really don't understand what this whole fuss is all about. Can someone please explain it to me? "

Were you high when you wrote the article, or are you high at present? Read your own article. Again.

Jameel 7/15/2009 10:10:23 PM
This article must be the most useless amongst useless. Stop using your typical African mentality. The west is not responsible for the demise of Sinbabwe.

The powers that be should be put in front of the international criminal court and prosecuted for abuse of human rights.

blackwilliamwallace 7/15/2009 10:42:52 PM
i am zimbabwean and nugabe is responsable for our demise not the west,i have mothers and father killed by that regime ,i bear scars of his ill rule and you have the guts to say that its the westmits him and we didnt ote for him

sithole a 7/15/2009 11:04:08 PM
Africa is Africa it will never change people like mugabe aplenty in the continent ,talk talk talk but all the money that the black leaders take from africa is in Europe stached in Banks Obama knows that and all of us know it unless your hornes are stuck in the african sand.,m,..,.,., corruption is the african game .,.,. by the way i am from ZIMBABWE.,

Its plain Logic 7/16/2009 1:52:33 AM
I’m sorry Mphatjie Monareng, but you’re an idiot. If I’m not mistaken it’s the US providing aid and food for the starving people in Zim, and NOT Mugabe who dragged his country into the floor with his racist nature - which cost his country AND Africa a great deal of pain and suffering. Africa should stop blaming other countries for its problems, stop begging to the world for aid and get a footing of its own. I don’t know why I’m even saying this, just read through the other comments and you will realize – your article is just as flawed as your logic …. It would be wise of you to move out of reporting and into the political circles, at least there you can bullsh!t and get away with it

traveller 7/16/2009 3:40:56 AM
What a load of RUBBISH! What does the author expect? Obama is an American and therefore should be treated as one who looks after the welfare of his own country not the messiah of Africa. His African father and Kenyan relatives had nothing to do in his upbringing, so therefore his outlook on life is completely first world..thank his mother. Wake up! the world doesn't owe Africa anything, besides in a country (SA)where exiled dictators can live in luxury and current dictators across the border are given tacit support why be even more hypocritical?

Antarctix 7/16/2009 7:19:57 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how silly some people are when it comes to admitting the real reason Zim failed. It had a thriving economy until the farms were invaded. Pure and simple.

MarcE 7/16/2009 7:20:56 AM
The biggest enemy of the Africans are the Africans themselves

RiaanL 7/16/2009 7:54:40 AM
"..a president some of us regard as part and parcel of Africa". Where do you get that from, he's American, or haven't you noticed? Africa creates their own problems, always have and always will. Why the need to always blame someone else for what the Africans are doing to Africa, or stand with open hands begging and asking for assistance that we/they think we/they are entitled to. Mphatjie Monareng, you're an idiot more than you are a clown...

Smk 7/16/2009 8:50:29 AM
What was the biggest technological development in thousands of years before the white man came to Africa? The Isikwa (The spear King Shaka developed) If the whites have under-developed Africa as the author comments when we have provided technology for Agriculture, roads... hell everything but wattle and daub huts and whites underdeveloped Africa? Please... That book was more then likely written by an African with your kind of African logic. If the west is soo bad tell them to take away all their NGO's lets see how many million people then die of starvation. Let the western nations stop investing in Africa, lets see how fast the money dries up. I am tired of these pathetic people that blame the west and appartheid because they cannot be bothered to take resposibility for their actions. Africa expected the money to flow in (and I suspect the author as well) now that America has a "Black" president. Typical give me attitude gets you only as far as you are thrown and I can tell you America couldnt be bothered to even throw you. Stop the blame game and get off your butt and lets fix our problems ourselves instead of sitting waiting for handouts.

Arrogant! 7/16/2009 8:56:10 AM
You must be a "rocket scientist" from Zanu PF. No brains and all mouth. You have a monkey for a president.. oops sorry I have insulted monkey's, who has destroyed your country through stupidity and greed and you blame the Western world. Wake up idiot!!!!!

enfante terrible 7/16/2009 9:06:27 AM
The amount of racism spewed on this news-site is dangerously intoxicating. When are people going to stop denying this or denying that. You white people are the most naive people I have ever come across. Let me give you a scenario here, its "reported" that some six million jews were slained by the Nazis. There are so many commemorations year after year on this and people are generally sympathetic. Movies have been made, dramas have been made as well, books have been written, children are taught about this abhorrent act of the Nazis. Is theer anyone here who can deny that Jews had had this terrible treatment, NO is the answer I expect to get. In the late 40s, some party called National Party came to power in SA. A lot of things started happening, with the economic power starting to tilt to the Afrikaners of this land and still with a few english getting a fair piece of this cake with hugely detrimantal effect to Africans of this land. Companies were allowed to thrive which promoted afrikanerdom and many of them were employed in the govt of then and wealth started accumulating in many forms for the white SA with the exclusion of Blacks of this country. That was almost more than 40-50 years of systematic of African annihilation, young black kids made to receive substd education (which some guy in this is labelling Blacks "less educated, stupid bastards", my question to that guy is, "What did you expect if you ensured Blacks received inferior education, did you expect them to suddenly be witty? Enough about that, why dont we now say the commemorations held yearly by Jews must be a thing of the past, it happened and no one must ever talk about it? South Africa were at the mercy of rock spiders who with their stupidity brought us to this day. Tell me of one positive thing that Afrikaners or the NP did for the Africans when they were in Govt? Atleast the present govt is not saying Afrikaners are not welcome, there is a number of them already in govt. There is a huge number of them in corporate SA, tell me of one black politician in the ANC or any of liberation movements who openly advocated that we dont need Afrikaners or whites in general? The same coloureds and indians who were in cahoots with your govt are now classed black HDSA, meaning they can gain a few and already are gaining (if you check their demographical representation versus positions of power they occupy in mainstream economy of SA), and these are some of the guys who if it was possible they would want to be classed white (pity their language, culture and skin does not allow that). Much has happened and only an attempt to redress the past is being baulked at by you guys. Sure, we must not blame western countries for this malady, but if you have a country that does not even produce a quarter of worl supply of diamonds, has the central selling organisation based in their country, I mean where prices for this commodity is determined. Beneficiation of many of Africa's commodities does not happen in Africa, it happens in the west. It cretaes all this allure, jobs, huge scale development in the western countries. But tehse commodities come from Africa. I know yu going to jump to enterpreneurship skills of the west, but dont yu think if Africa is allowed to own up this beneficiation, it will develop like any of the western nations. Expecting africans to fight with one hand whilst another is tied to their back, is that what you envision we can come up to finally equally compete with you? Playing in this heavily tilted field in your favour, do you ever think we will score? I dont think so.

Coming to Obama, the man like any of the USA presidents, he is already creating boil basket for future america. When has Ghana started being a beacon of hope for Africa? In case Obama has forgotten, not so long ago, Ghana had a gentleman by the name of Jerry rawlings as president, the less said about the man, the better. maybe that question is best left out for the Ghananians themselves as they know him better than us. That Ghana had bloodless elections, its not the first time. Botswana has had many of this elections and even ranked highest in SAfrica in terms odf transparency of good governorship, why were they not mentioned by Obama? Mauritius and our very own SA, we have had relatively peaceful elections, even elections within political parties which could have gone awry, but there was relative calmness in the whole episode. The fact that JZ is now our prez, he used our constitution and no one can argue that.Perhaps then we must question our constitution. So Mphatjie (what name is this, is it a combo of Afrikaans and sesoth/setswana, see people, even our batswanas have for decades bee using afrikaans names) is right. We will blame te west until we die, because they made us Africans look less at ourselves. They raped our countries of natural mineral endowments without fail. Now you get people/companies saying they will disinvest when countries like SA, Zimbabwe, Cameroon, Zambia, Nigeria, Chad, Sudan, Angola and Congo who are trying to rid us Africans of always extending our hands for handouts by ensuring our mineral wealth is benefiting us and not the west.Contries or people are now crying foul that these countries now want to re-look minerals policies in their contries which for years have made Africans subservient to the west, what do you people want kahle kahle? How do you expect us to stand on our own and stop being beggars. Why dont you live and let live?

Jay 7/16/2009 10:39:46 AM
The arrogance isn't in the speech, but in this kind of reaction. Why is it that Africans assume just because Obama is part African-American that he's suddenly the saviour of Africa? That he suddenly owes Africa something and will come running in to save the day? He has his own country to run. He doesn't owe us a damn thing.

@enfante terrible 7/16/2009 10:49:59 AM
Why don't you take control you fool, instead of writing crap!! Blame all you want, but I am going to get my cheese and do a little good on the way there and afterwards. You mentioned education, as long as you can't let go of the past you future education will amount for nothing and weigh you down. Botzwana is a great example of a country that moved on, when are you and our dear writer going to move on?

vernell 7/16/2009 11:35:54 AM
We will not move forward because we truly believe the past owe us an apology. Unfortunately it cannot apologies. History is crual but it does not hold out an olive branch, only a lesson. You either learn or you will regret your future.Even the cruelist of mankind's action have gave birth the greatest of it's moments. Yes apartheid has robbed 'us' of many a things but RSA today is seen as the beacon of hope for AFRICA not in the least by it's wealth in natural resources. Now everybody learns from the lesson of SA except it's own citizens. We still feel history owe us and some even pay themselves handsomely through corrupt means.The bigger picture once lost it cannot be reconstructed. Let's keep our eye on the bigger picture it is what made the Afrikaner succeed in their quest. So can we if we keep our eye on the quest; THE EMANCIPATION OF THE BLACK MASSES as they did so should we. The eastern nations are doing it when will Africa start? We won't because we simply want what our repressors/colonialist had/enjoyd,but their constituency was very smal compared to 'ours'.Their corruption and ours (blacks) do not bore the same consequence!!We as blacks as downtodden have an even greater accountability but we sherk this almost with childish abonden if only to blame the past for our own inept. If we do not possess the capacity find someone who does even if he/she is WHITE. Indeed that is exactly how afrikaner succeeded....they made us work where they could not. IT's a hard truth but it's better than TOTAL FAILURE!!

Mmmmm 7/16/2009 11:44:55 AM
Really, grow up and take responsibility for your actions. Spend your time on something productive, rather than venting in a publication.

anon 7/16/2009 12:02:06 PM
Is this just a space for all of you to go at each other? You all seem to be so unhappy about the current state of things and this is what you do about it. Argue your perspective??Vehemently. What good does that do?However misplaced the opinion of this writer, HE too is voicing HIS opinions - besides someone has to start the daily brawl right? Your opinions are so passionate but so misdirected. You are doing nothing to better the situation by moaning on a blog that was designed to make you FEEL like you have a voice, just like we're lead to believe that we have choice - do you have much choice in your current situation. Does people at grassroots level have choice? Really..the collective is what is threatening to these institutions, but while we're clearly at each others' throats - what do they have to fear? peace.

remeber to remember 7/16/2009 1:43:49 PM
remember obama is not an african messia, the people of africa are their own messias, he is human like everybody else.if he is in africa he must dance to african music.futhi le nkwenkwe andiyazi ukuba yolukekuphi.

Maxim 7/16/2009 2:11:46 PM
iiE' so many astronauts but not enough shuttles, 'Mugabie moontoo'. Eye mean WTF has ever being developed, engineered by an astronaut in AAFFRRIICCAA.... Not even a wooden Ship (wind driven) 600yrs ago...

Paul 7/16/2009 2:46:42 PM
HA HA HA! As per usual blaming everything on everyone else instead of finding th faults within yourself! Typical African mentality, it is always someone else's fault! Obama was merely saying in a nice way that African's need to get over what happened in the past and move on! How do you move forward if you are always looking back? SA will never come right as long as apartheid is still blamed for everything...GROW UP, DRY YOUR EYES and MOVE ON!!!!!

Geo 7/16/2009 2:51:14 PM
Places like India were also colonised and influenced by Western powers some point and you don't hear about the same kind of shit coming from there as in Africa. That's gotta say something about Africans...

Joe 7/16/2009 3:40:32 PM
Yeah yeah, keep living the dream of western blame! See where the blame game and the race card will get you.

ErazeSeven 7/16/2009 4:10:53 PM
Mphatjie "Bright" Monareng = New Sinister of Misinformation in Zimbabwe

Anon 7/16/2009 4:12:57 PM
Mphatjie Monareng must be goverment employee spend all day mucking around on the internet licking Bobs anal cavity. Get back to work I dont pay tax for nothing

Oedie 7/16/2009 4:24:23 PM
You just so pathetic. The Western Countries are not responsible for what's happening in Africa. Our leaders are corrupt. They don't care bout the poor people and jst cash in for them selves. Wake Up. We need to take responsibility for ourselves. People choose to be lead by leaders like Mugabe and Zuma.

ZN 7/16/2009 5:07:37 PM
The ANC and its alliance members, helped insititute sanctions against the Apartheid Govt in order for it to reverse its policy of discrimination. It is only fitting that Zimbabwe is punished for its brutal oppressive system. The Zimbabweans are holding up just fine - they all billionaires ;-)

Nandipha 7/16/2009 6:08:26 PM
@GEO You actually have no clue the suffering that part of the Asian continent suffers under. They are still dealing with their pasts and the F up the Brits left them with in regards to Pakistan...so yeah we hear about their suffering all the time. And the article is not trying to shift blame but rather saying how disingenious for the West to rape Africa for centuries and continue to do so without any accountability. As to the people who wonder why go on abou the injustices long after the slave masters have packed off, its because we're still living with the mess, same applies to SA

Hnie 7/16/2009 6:43:53 PM
You can BEE, AA and emancipate as much as you want. You will never reach the efficiency levels of people from Western origin. It is in your genes to be lazy, murder and steal. EVERY DAY there are cases of senseless murders on whites, predominantly old people. More people have been murdered since 1994 than all the blacks in our history. So sulk as much as you want. You will NEVER get the better of the whites.

Johan 7/16/2009 7:31:07 PM
What was that article again? O yes, the chinese came, and then the africans realised what they were missing, someone to blame. lol

LL PONN 7/16/2009 11:20:49 PM
The english, french, dutch, portuguese all invaded Africa. Japs invaded China and the USA. Africans have never invaded any foreign nation other than their own

TracerZA 7/17/2009 6:22:06 AM
I can't believe this!!!!! I mean, he's the black peoples savior isn't he??? I really, really thought he'd forget about all about America and focus on Africa!!! What a coconut. LOL.

edzz 7/17/2009 8:08:49 AM
Gents you are such bigots you can not even acknowledge a valid point.All the article showed is that where western powers have a vested intrest they apply double standards,eg.tthe US says it is bringing democracy(by use of force)in Iraq and Afganistan-well why dont they try Iran,Saudi Arabia,North Korea or better yet China?What is the difference in what occured in Kenya and Zimbabwe during and after the elections there?Why no sanctions against the Kenya regime?You guys are so subjective.

TheRock 7/17/2009 8:32:36 AM
Obama is more American than people realise. I think they overdo the whole "African" thing. Then they become disillusioned when he doesn't act the way they think he should. This gives them an excuse to blame the "evil west" (starting to sound like Russia and China in 1950's.)

Ntsizwa 7/17/2009 9:00:57 AM
It is sad that Africans still deny all responsibility for their actions. This article is a display of how we always see others as responsible for our sins.

Nigel 7/17/2009 11:06:43 AM
So... what would you have expected the West to do instead of apply sanctions? Or should they just stand by and let Bob and his cronies disregard the human rights violations that they have commited. Is it ok to win elections by intimidation. I bet you didn't think it was ok when the West did nothing in Rwanda in 94..? So when is it OK for the West to stick their noses into Africa and when is it not?



Maverick@enfante terrible 7/17/2009 1:32:25 PM
The West tried to bring light to the dark continent. The dark continent couldn't understand it and still can't. They tried to destroy it and still are. Do you understand what I am talking about ?

Western 7/19/2009 12:52:16 PM
The question is, who is the west so many Africans refer to? Is it the USA or Europe?
Is it the west side of the globe?
No, we all know when it's the 'west' this and the 'west' that, that you use it as a codeword for whites. In your vocabulary west = whites.
Play the 'victim' violin till the strings break....

Dik Zak 7/19/2009 2:07:35 PM
"His farther is Kenyan and his family members, including his maternal grandmother, still live in Kenya"

Er... No, his maternal grandmother died recently. And it's spelled father, not farther.

Democrafix 7/19/2009 4:17:09 PM
The truth hurts!

Andy 7/19/2009 7:36:49 PM
OMG! The sanctions are a what destroyed Zimbabawe? Which planet have u been living in? It aint earth!

Mugabe and all those morons who voted for him destroyed their own country and economy.

When are some Africans finaly going to wake up and realise that they cant continue blaming the west for their own problems. The last colony in Africa was many years ago!

U would think by now Africa with all its resources would be powerful BUT no instead the few elite rape the country & its citizins from all its wealth, and the people still vote them in as fear of change is far worse.

Please stop blaming others about the problems the entire African continent faces. Yes colonialsim played its part. BUT HEY Cyprus (a small island in the med) was ruled by Greece, France, Egypt, Turkey and then England. They have had independence for a few decades, and now Cyprus is the 33rd richest country in the world. It was regarded as one of the poorest countries in the world.

So please read, research & do some soul searching man! Cos blaming Obama or any other Western government for the faults of South Africa wont fix this country or elleviate the millions who live in absolute poverty.

LETS NOT DESPAIR AS AFRICA CONTAINS MANY PPL WITH BRAINS SUCH AS NTSIZWA. THANK GOD FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU!! I LOVE AFRICA AND I LOVE AFRICANS AND I WANT THE BEST FOR MY HOME. THANK YOU NTSIZWA FOR MAKING ME REALISE THAT NOT ALL ARE FOOLS AS THE ONE WHO WROTE THIS STUPID ARTICLE.

lsu 7/19/2009 10:05:50 PM
I read your article - as long as we have people like you in Africa there is no need for the "evil" West to oppress Africa - Africans are making the worst possible decisions in their countries and people like you support it? Africans can't take any responsibility it seems - blame the West more.

Clayton 7/19/2009 10:29:19 PM
Well, now that Obama is president and not throwing millions to Africa, everyone is upset? Why should he, America has it's own problems. African countries think they can do what they like and that the Western Countries must just throw money at them and help them out? What a joke, I am so glad Obama said it the way it is. African leaders need to take blame for their own problems.

Alibaba 7/20/2009 3:14:29 AM
Funny what you say about the guys who stole the elections in Kenya that formed a mega government and are now distributing the wealth among themselves, and shafts the population. Sounds similar to the situation in a country a little bit further south - they just screwed with the piepols minds, won the "election", formed a large government compared to their predecessors, now buy blinged up cars....

@vernell 11:35 am 7/20/2009 3:25:40 AM
Thank you sir!!! One ray of light in this whole mess. I'm very white, and at the same time fully supportive of improving the plight of the black masses, but I'm not going to turn a blind eye if a black person use that cause to line his own pockets and steal from these masses just because this is Africa. We must remember two things - one the perceived wealth of SA has its limits, and two, the masses will only be patient for so long. We are stealing from coming generations by being corrupt, lazy and putting incompetent people in positions of power just because they are loyal to some or other person or political party.

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