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Complaining for a hobby

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2007-12-05 08:55

It seems that the conservative portion of South Africans has gotten so alarming that practically every statement even mildly controversial appears to cause some kind of furor.

Unfortunately, and not for the first time, 5FM DJ Gareth Cliff has been embroiled in the midst of an entanglement, caused by some people who are just amazingly shallow and hypersensitive. The latest debacle concerns his mentioning that God is "petty."

Perhaps, it was simply taken out of context, however that utterance went on to cause some people to begin falling over themselves in, as they put it, "shock and outrage."

For some strange, mystical reason, it seems that where politics or issues of a lesser seriousness are concerned, controversy is perfectly acceptable, but at the first mention of religion, then one has to tread as if walking on eggshells.

You would think that why this is so should be far beyond anyone with a working frontal lobe. But then again, some people are simply way to PC.

Ironically, a large portion of those who are overtly sensitive are the same ones who regard politics as an issue of lesser seriousness and possibly regard the issue of which DJ to complain about as having magnanimous importance.

Really now, if at every remark of even slight controversy, people are to begin all but frothing at the mouth, then surely the logical alternative would be to simply lock yourself in a dark room, without curtains or even windows, and wallow in the sound of your own (uncontroversial) voice.

Even more ironic is that time and time again we see that those who complain perpetually about a certain columnist, DJ, TV presenter, weatherman and neighbors' colour sense are the very same who perpetually listen to and engage with the very cause of their dissatisfaction.

How about these mind-numbingly brilliant alternatives: If the cause of your seizure be a radio DJ, then why not simply change the station...permanently? If the cause of the sudden increase in heart rate is a columnist, why not buy another newspaper? Or better yet, buy the same paper but ignore the particular columnist's article.

Changing the station

Those questions are exceptionally rhetorical because, seemingly, those who complain about every other irreverent statement are the same lot who simply love complaining and pursue it with the enthusiasm of a heartwarming hobby. Changing the station, for example, would not afford them the opportunity to complain, which in turn may lead to another cause for seizure.

There are so many issues that warrant complaining, yet these are often pushed to the side to make way for rigorous discussions on minute issues that were simply intended for the purpose of humour.

Is not time to be adult about things and, instead of running around frantically starting petitions to get people censored, just grow an amiable sense of humour?

We are, after all, a nation rich in diversity, and subsequently, South Africans especially, should be far more open, tolerant and understanding, instead of harbouring unneeded bitterness.

It really is a sad cycle of frenzy, this complaining-as-a-hobby business. We South Africans are an amazing lot, aren't we?

There, I've just given you something to complain about...

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Martin 12/5/2007 9:09:14 AM
Gareth feels uneasy with himself and still try to establish his own character and point of views. Give him space he will grow up eventually after he stop being such a cry baby!

colin 12/5/2007 9:16:10 AM
In its very being your article is about people complaining but thorough the articles you yourself complain a bit contradicting isn?t it

frank 12/5/2007 9:16:27 AM
Some people whine at the drop of a hat. The best think to do is ignore people like that and carry on with what you were doing.

safa 12/5/2007 9:17:13 AM
its not just south africans who complain if you look at the recent skit with the teddy bear, or the cartoon before them. and before then someone actually made a movie about Jesus and they complained about that too. hopefully the people in charge dont get sucked into the pc madness that seems to be affecting the world at the moment.

There is God 12/5/2007 9:17:59 AM
The bible says GOD is GOD because he is GOD. to all the christians out there please know that nothing can ever change who GOD is not even Gareth Cliff comments. To you Gareth remember this these word in (Galatians 6:7)"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Whatever you opinion is about the living GOD that is what you are going to reap.

Scotty 12/5/2007 9:20:33 AM
I find SA Christians the most intolerable bunch of hypocrites i have ever met. Are Christians not supposed to be tolerant? It's not only God that is petty but his followers are as well.

RedL 12/5/2007 9:23:36 AM
It would appear that your piece is a complaint about people complaining?

Andy 12/5/2007 9:23:47 AM
It seems as if people tend to wait for Gareth Cliff to say something so the can rush off to the BCC, if you do not like him, do NOT listen to him. He never meant what you all think he said.....Come On Now!!!!!!!

Kathy 12/5/2007 9:25:46 AM
I fully agree with the author. I did not hear the broadcast but am an avid Gareth fan and am sure the comment must have been taken out of context.The was the same furore from the Muslims about the Zapiro cartoon.I am sure none of them had SEEN the cartoon as he was making a point about discrimination and targeted most religions. If people are secure in their religions there should be no need to jump up and down like that.

Gary 12/5/2007 9:27:17 AM
The sooner that people wake up to the fact that ALL religion is the singularly most evil dogma ever to prevail on this planet. Religion no matter what trumped up pile of S#!5 you want to serve it up in has been responsible for untold misery and suffering since the beginning of written / known history. We have been killing each other with the intolerant belief that this particular God of that particular religion is better than your God. The sooner we all realise that there is only one universal light and that he/she/it loves you and me unconditionally for whom and what we are then maybe the fanatical life destroying religions will disappear. Then maybe we can start living together and not have to tolerate each other, just accept each other in unconditional love and start having some fun and accepting each other for whom and what we are.

AndyC 12/5/2007 9:32:00 AM
To be honest I dont like Gareth Cliff. I did however listen to his show on the morning he made the coment. If anybody is upset with this comment then they need to get a life. Why is it religous people always get angry when people have a different point of view than them. I SAY XMAS TO THEM ALL.

Tim 12/5/2007 9:32:08 AM
God is lucky that these people keep rushing to her protection. Its the least they could do! After all What would JC do? Last week it was Xmas, this week it is him being petty. I can't wait to see how God will make the news next week. After all this is the time to show true support for the cause, else no presents for Xmas you naughty little bugger. Religion with reward. I want to be the most christian too.

The most 12/5/2007 9:33:32 AM
lazy people always complain???. as I was listening to some radio station this morning, a lady called complained about the tiles at Maponya mall that the tiles were too smooth and slippery. They should be slippery if your shoe heels are finished. I am just wondering??.. Should they replace all the tiles at the mall because she found them to be slippery?

Romeo 12/5/2007 9:34:04 AM
What a shock. Does this country still such people? Stop being so sensitive. I?m a born again Christian and I am not upset about the comment Gareth made. If someone?s faith is so ?deep? and strong, how can it be shaken by this? Get a sense of humor. Let everyone, including radio and TV personalities, exercise their rights. Stop being so stupid and grow up. Learn to accept views that are not similar to yours. You don?t have to adopt them, just accept the fact that they are there. Morons!!!

lisa 12/5/2007 9:36:11 AM
I live my life by the four agreements, one of which is DON'T TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY. Does it matter how Gareth feels about GOD? IF it does, then you have just given your power over to him. Personally, I am more interested in becoming a better person so my kids can have living examples of how to be, rather than being obsessed with religion... but that's my opinion, and you probably feel differently.

WAM 12/5/2007 9:36:37 AM
Good point - watch all the religionists and mystics come out of the woodwork to complain. It's strange that in the 21st century supposedly intelligent people still do not know that god, like santa claus, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny, DOES NOT exist. It's a figment of your imagination, so who cares what Gareth Cliff says!

Grace 12/5/2007 9:37:46 AM
Brilliantly articulated, Rivaan. Could not agree with you more. I received the petition yesterday, took one look @ it & burst out laughing. I have a very firm belief in God, because I choose to have & have made an educated choice, not because it was forced on me. This issue is not worth worrying about. The article on News24 stating that South Africans are evil, now that's cause for worry. Go on SA, ease up a bit & find a sense of humour. Thank you.

dave the wave 12/5/2007 9:38:23 AM
To all the people who took offensive... Catch a wake up. Read some books, become smart. It might help a little. Next thing you know they're going to be throwing their toys out the window for calling a teddy bear Mohammed.

carol 12/5/2007 9:39:52 AM
I too received the e-mail concerning the remarks made by Gareth Cliff. The oly reason I did not respond, was because I personally did not hear it. I definitely do not listen to his program as I think he is quite an opinionated person.He is not my favourite. So I simply donot tune into his program. There are far more less arrogant presenters on other radio stations. Just a comment not a complaint.

WSAW 12/5/2007 9:40:25 AM
You know Rivaan, I used to get so upset with people that make uncalled for remarks like Gareth...and individuals, not realizing the impact it has and we as children of God are only petty whiners. BUT, our Lord God is so holy and magnificent, He is tolerant and merciful, He is love and kindhearted. He is our all. The Holy Spirit has taught me a bit more about the character of Jesus Christ and that is to take what comes your way with the love of God and keep in mind that EVERY knee will bow before our God. I know for certain that God is smiling onto His children as we are not ashamed of Him, but love Him so much, we will speak against blasphemous individuals. We are not extremists that demand the death penalty ? why can?t the non-believers have a bit more respect and less resentment themselves?

colin 12/5/2007 9:41:51 AM
Luckily I am not a 5fm listener but rather listen to an informative and moral dignified radio station like METRO where people are respected for there inputs and no stupid comments are made like that of Gareth. Yes we do live in a country were freedom of speech is protected by our constitution but with that freedom comes an corresponding responsibility to do the right thing and this latest comment about GOD by this DJ was not the right thing to do no matter how anyone tries to defend him. I know that Gareth is much smarter than what he looks and he should have known what the reaction from the public would have been once he had utter those offensive words. He also has the arrogance to reply in an mail in which he states that GOD does not exist and write GOD in small letters he also goes on and say in the same mail the father christmas does not exist and write this in capital letters. It is only in respecting yourself that you will learn to respect others.

Jonathan 12/5/2007 9:43:34 AM
While it may be seen as a mere complaint by conservative Christians, there is something more sinister at play. Religion can only survive and grow by silencing its detractors. The religious make their thoughts well known in public forums and try and influence society to fit their agenda, when their superstition and archaic ideas are challenged or ridiculed they hide behind societal privilege given to religion and cry foul. Why should religion be exempt from criticism and should free speech not apply to religion as it does to politics or other discourse?

GPB 12/5/2007 9:45:43 AM
I changed radio stations the day after he took over the afternoon drive show.Everybody is entitled to his/her own opinion.What he did is to involve himself later in a email debate where he compare God with the tooth fairy and father christmas.That is not on,he basicaly frowns on all forms of religion.Come on Gareth ,grow up

Vernon Wolf 12/5/2007 9:48:12 AM
Religion and religious issues have been a thorn in my side for a very long time. This is a religious free country and I have the right (as do Gareth) to say anything about any god. So, on that note, "God is a farce and I, christianity is a small minded evil cult and I, Vernon Wolf, do NOT subscribe to it!"

Z 12/5/2007 9:48:22 AM
Quoting the Bible? How grown up of you. You are not to judge, .... only God has that right. That is also stated in the Bible. There is only one God in Christianity - the world does not only consist of one religion. ..... This is not me complaining but me purely only stating my opnion.

Mike 12/5/2007 9:49:05 AM
What gets me with these overly conservative religious types is that the assume everyone wants to be or should be like them. People need to realise that not everybody believes in the same god as they do, or any god at all for that matter, and that fact should make no difference to their own beliefs. If I say I don't believe in god that shouldn't offend you and that shouldn't be enough to make your kids atheists if they over hear me - if anything it means there more room in heaven for you...

Bonzo 12/5/2007 9:49:09 AM
Rivaan, your article is too long, no, too short. There are too many (few) paragraphs. Some sentences are (in)consistent. Most of the people commenting on your article make spelling errors. I hate this keyboard. My monitor has glare. Why isn't it hot this time of year? I hate the weather! God should be praised - or is that Allah? Whoever. Petty? I personally find this prevailing attitude of complaining worthy of complaint. I (dis)like your article, by the way. Or do I? I'm going to complain...

kolobe 12/5/2007 9:49:13 AM
Criticize the practices and principles of religions however please do not blaspheme (degrade) the essence, the pillar or God of religion whats wrong with that, the principles dares to be questioned,to some people God is the essence of their lives, they just don?t find life worth living without their ?GOD? this is the reason why people would do anything for protection of their religion. I don?t think this is difficult..

Come on 12/5/2007 9:49:28 AM
I Believe everybody has a right to decide for himself , but is it necessary to criticise and break down what somebody else believes? That is picking a fight... And then you complain about it.

Franky 12/5/2007 9:50:15 AM
I listen to five fm - in fact - have since my teenage years and I must admit, there are times when Gareth just makes me wnat to scream! He is rude and inconsiderate at best and I think he has attention deficit disorder. Now five fm has losat it's appeal for me. Pity

European-African 12/5/2007 9:50:34 AM
I believe that the complaint has nothing to do with religion per se but rather with the fact that whites have no say in anything in this country anymore. We have some economical power - but cannot withold it from the racist ANC and SARS. So, feeling immasculated, some people hold more dear that which they feel is theirs: such as religion. Therefore they overreact when someone oversteps and fight back in the only way they can: economically, petitions, etc.

Bob 12/5/2007 9:53:05 AM
What would have happened if it was a racial slur against the president? Then everyone would have been up in arms, Gareth would have been fired on the spot and publicly charged with treason! If someone speaks out against your father/mother would you just turn around and walk away? I think not! Just because you do not believe there is a God doesn't mean that you or any one else should disrespect the ones that know there is a God. A God who will most definitely come to judge

European-African 12/5/2007 9:54:20 AM
Religion may appear to be the cause of untold misery. But have you thought what would've happened had these differently inclined religious folk never met each other? Simple... no misery... no disputes... no intolerace. Are you reading between the lines here? The closer you force people together, something multi-culturist folks like yourself adore, the more conflict you create. Read the article the psychologist wrote about people in SA being "angry" at each other. Easy solution: keep them... APART

Typan 12/5/2007 9:54:30 AM
OK... I dont like Gareth so I odnt listen to his show because I feel he is insulting and rude. Hello if you are easly offended dont lisen you morons. As for his gd comment hmmm I am not religious but see more understaning about who gd is from Gareth than most of you zellots! Get over your selvs gd is personal and nothing any one says should affect you.

Sue 12/5/2007 9:54:46 AM
Saying that yellow is actually red doesn't make it red. Let him believe and say whatever he wants. It won't change reality that there is a God and is not petty. Gareth is very good at making statements that rub people the wrong way. Don't take him to seriously. His words shouldn't change the way you feel about God. His words, his problem. He is a bit of a fool anyway. Instead of doing something good for other like other radio stations, he chooses to be negative. I don't listen to him anyway.

Goodness Gracious 12/5/2007 9:55:15 AM
The author here also has the full right to express his own dissatisfaction with how quickly people jump to complaining - even if his words come across as a complaint themselves. All he is saying is lets be more open-minded and less negative about things in this place. Religion is, and always has been, a sticky subject... but please people, lets not take this as an excuse to start bashing one another's beliefs and opinions... that would only go to prove true what is written above - how quick our nation is to get upset about certain subjects. Lets be rational and then be respectful of each other here. Please!!

atheist 12/5/2007 9:55:19 AM
What I dont get is that thres still so many people who believ in their invisible frind in the sky. Wake up there is no such thing as a god. Take control of your own life and see the difference!

Ryan van Wyk 12/5/2007 9:55:19 AM
Whilst i think gareth cliff is total pellet i have to agree wholeheartedly that our society is jam packed with extremely hypersensitive people. if someone wants to say something about "God" let them say it, why in a world that encourages free speech does this still happen?

Jen 12/5/2007 9:55:28 AM
Listen, dont get me wrong, i dont mind Gareth, but he must keep his anti-religious sentiments to himself. For me, speaking about God, is done in the utmost sense of respect. If you dont respect somebodies belief in religion, rather dont say anything. Gareth having the power to view his beliefs on air is very one-sided and unfair, his comments should be neutral and open to a broad spectrum of listeners. Surely losing listeners is not the aim of 5fm???

Craig 12/5/2007 9:55:48 AM
I think this is just another attempt by a radio personality to create some kind of controversy. Gareth thinks God is petty and I think Gareth's show is overrated. There, we're all giving our opinions. As a Christian I feel that such a comment is uncalled for, but at the end of the day it's all really insignificant when one focuses on the bigger picture.

BN 12/5/2007 9:56:19 AM
to put a British teacher in jail for naming a teddy Muhammed, but Christians are 'childish and whinging' when complaining about blasphemy and the things people say on the radio and print in papers about GOD. Its double standards, if the Islam religion should be respected, so should the Christian religion be respected! Look how people complain about RACISM, but Christians should shut up?? NOW WAY!

Christiaan 12/5/2007 9:56:44 AM
God is everything and everthing is contained in God! Can't be insulted! Doesn't need a lawyer! A "petty God" is another entity, not God, so no insult was given! Those who defend God is guilty of exactly the same "sin" as those that insult "it", i.e trying to define something that can't be comprehended or defined! It may be different if you talk of Jesus because he was or is a person!

TracerZA 12/5/2007 9:56:50 AM
What an insecure lot you christians are.......or perhaps thats what defines a christian....or any other religious person on the planet. Do away with religion and the vast majority of the world's issues will dissapear. Oh, and Gareth, why is it that DJ's think they are Gods? You especially, you have too much to say. Its a pity hell doesn't exist, 'cos there's a fitting place for you....

rob 12/5/2007 9:57:10 AM
it seems gareth has enough boyfriends out there, lets hope that they will be there for him oneday when he needs it like we all need when we are in the crap, time will tell good luck to him...

Ravche 12/5/2007 9:58:36 AM
What ever happened to freedom of speech, freedom of belief. If my beliefs do not encompass a God, then where's the problem in that, more space for the rest of you in Heaven (or Hell). As for ?God is God? ... Prove it!! Without a book written my man.

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