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Bid to shut down Facebook

2007-07-25 07:18

Boston - The owners of a rival social networking website are trying to shut down Facebook.com, charging in a federal lawsuit that Facebook's founder stole their ideas while they were students at Harvard.

The three founders of ConnectU say Mark Zuckerberg agreed to finish computer code for their site, but repeatedly stalled and eventually created Facebook using their ideas.

The lawsuit's allegations against Zuckerberg include fraud, copyright infringement and misappropriation of trade secrets. It asks the court to shutter Facebook and give control of the company and its assets to ConnectU's founders.

Facebook has responded by asking a judge to dismiss the lawsuit. A hearing is scheduled for Wednesday in US District Court in Boston.

Facebook started in 2004, a few months before ConnectU went online, and now has 31 million users, compared with about 70 000 users for ConnectU, based in Greenwich, Connecticut. Last year, Facebook turned down a one billion dollar buyout offer from Yahoo Inc.

A spokesperson for Palo Alto, California-based Facebook declined to comment. But in court filings, Facebook's attorneys say ConnectU has no evidence for "broad-brush allegations" against Zuckerberg, and deny he pilfered his ideas for Facebook from his fellow Harvard students.

"Each of them had different interests and activities," they wrote. "Only one of them had an idea significant enough to build a great company. That one person was Mark Zuckerberg."

'We weren't going to lie down...'

Facebook and ConnectU connect college students and others online. Both allow users to post profiles with pictures, biographies and other personal information and create extended networks of people at their schools or jobs or with similar interests.

ConnectU originally filed suit in 2004, but it was dismissed on a technicality and immediately refiled. The lawsuit claims that in December 2002, ConnectU founders Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss - who are brothers - and Divya Narenda began to develop a social networking site for the Harvard community called Harvard Connection.

In November 2003, the three asked Zuckerberg to complete software and database work on the site. They repeatedly asked him to finish before they graduated in June 2004, and Zuckerberg assured them he was working hard to complete it, the lawsuit says.

"Such statements were false and Zuckerberg never intended to provide the code and instead intended to breach his promise ... and intended to steal the idea for the Harvard Connection website, and in fact he did so," the suit alleges.

Zuckerberg launched Thefacebook.com in February 2004. ConnectU started its website in May of that year. By beating ConnectU to the market, Facebook gained a huge advantage, the lawsuit claims.

ConnectU's founders have written on their website about the "ups and downs" of their company history, including a programmer "who stole our ideas to create a competing site".

"But we've been troopers," they wrote. "At first we were devastated and climbed into a bottle of Jack Daniels for a bit, but eventually emerged with a bad headache and renewed optimism. We weren't going to lie down and get walked over like this."

- AP


Bob 7/25/2007 8:13:49 AM
Oh, shame, they have 70,000 users, and Facebook has 31 million. A case of sour grapes, I think.

MP3 7/25/2007 8:25:31 AM
Sore losers... Build a bridge and get over it. It's laughable to take a bunch of college students seriously about this type of thing. It's blatantly obvious that they're (the Plaintiff) in it for the money.

Bud 7/25/2007 8:39:56 AM
MP3 ... perhaps you didn't read the part of them graduating in 2004. Hardly college students ... and of course they'd be wanting some type of compensation for IP theft, if they can prove it. And if it was your code that someone else had stolen? Get over it ...??

djinni 7/25/2007 8:43:49 AM
if he stole from them the idea... why don't they get the subs... I think he gave them the ideas. but because he invented, they can't do it like he does it!...

Anon 7/25/2007 8:47:49 AM
MP3 must stop thinking he knows everything about everything .........get a life !

Magasman 7/25/2007 8:53:49 AM
'Lyle' in The Italian Job accuses the founder of Napster for stealing his idea of establishing a place to download videos and songs! Now, who did the founders of Google stole 'their' idea from? And, while we are at it, Amazon.com? Gillette? Memory stick?

Darryl 7/25/2007 9:09:09 AM
They graduated in 2004, and Facebook started in 2004 and now the twits wake up and see $$$ opportunities. Come on, three years down the line and the sore loosers want some cash - that's all.

spazman 7/25/2007 9:11:38 AM
Bud what the hell is IP theft? Anyways they are a bunch of sour grapes! Must they be the only site that has "clients" get over it and do a bit of better marketing i have never heard of connectU? Anon do something useful and post a comment about the article

llewC 7/25/2007 9:24:39 AM
I wonder if they really think that the 3 months between the launch of the sites makes any difference. I don't think so. If Zuckerberg did take their idea, then he has been much better at implementing the concept. I would wager that ConnectU would have remained relatively obscure irrespective of whether or not there was a Facebook.

Johnson 7/25/2007 9:34:47 AM
"We are sorry, but we had a problem connecting to the database server" - thats what you get when you hit search on their site - no wonder they only have 70000 users . . . .

loic Bellet 7/25/2007 9:35:41 AM
Did anybody ever see this tale of apple & microsoft? This stuff happens all the time, chances are they're (the plaintiff) are right. Even the name is better suited to a social networking site. Still, I suspect they'll have to market their way back - that's all.

Moto 7/25/2007 9:55:05 AM
My my, haven't we all forgotten to stick some sugar in our coffee this morning? Why's everyone so cranky? Bleary-eyed from spending too much time on Facebook? IP theft (Intellectual Property) is real, but yes, three months shouldn't make that much of a difference in the long term. ConnectU is a dof name in any case. It all sounds like typical American ranting, raving and litigation. I think Suckerface should have sold to Yahoo! and retired in the Carribean instead of now sitting in court.

happyface 7/25/2007 10:00:32 AM
There was a site called sixdegrees or something as early as 1999.Google tried something similar, as did myspace, and do not forget tripod,even skype comes into the picture. This is hardly a novel idea.Facebook took off because of it's unique balance between connecting for it's own sake, personal content, privacy settings, ease of registering, ease of uploading photos All this widened the appeal of the whole package.Was it ConnectU's idea to make things easier?Wow,why did I thk of that!

MP3 7/25/2007 10:03:42 AM
Uh Bud, if my code was stolen I'd be chuffed that someone thought it was worth stealing.

spazman 7/25/2007 10:14:22 AM
Now i know what IP Theft is hahahaha

Down with Facebook 7/25/2007 10:25:01 AM
It is obvious that Zuckerberg stole their idea, think about it - he worked for them. If they have proof then so well down with Facebook then. Theft is a crime, period. Browse the internet about this and you will see that Zuckerberg even kind off admitted to taking their idea in an interview already!

C 7/25/2007 10:25:02 AM
The article clearly doesn't give a full rundown of what was allegedly stolen. If it was the idea to create a site for social networking of Harvard students, then there may be a case. However, it's difficult to make a leap from that to demanding all of Facebook which has expanded way beyond that. Unless ConnectU is claiming that the plan was to open to the public and not just Harvard, or that code was stolen, or something similar, then no significant IP has been stolen as far as I can see.

bob 7/25/2007 10:54:20 AM
It is defiantly not IP theft here....Also if they have no proof of this they dont stand a chance in hell of proving MR Zuckerberg stole there code and ideas - good luck and MP3 I think people are jealous of your intellect - = C++ developer - trust me you have to be a very clever person to do this job!! MP3 wannabe

B 7/25/2007 11:08:45 AM
Geez I can't even open the site it's blocked here at work :( I've heard of it but never bothered to open it,now that I wana,it doesn't. and Johnson u right ConnectU gave me this error message "We are sorry, but we had a problem connecting to the database server" Dang!!!

MP4 7/25/2007 11:12:16 AM
MP3 I ussually like your comments, but why do you have to act arrogant sometimes.

Bud 7/25/2007 11:20:28 AM
IP (no bob, not Internet transmissions) theft covers the invention, methods and processes used to create something. Jealous .. of MP3's intellect? Puleeez. He wishes someone would even be interested in his code. If it's anything like his "let's make any comment without reading the article" mindset, I sure wouldn't want it .. :)

MP3 7/25/2007 11:35:43 AM
MP4 sometimes it's the only way to impel a point "home". It is not my intention to be construed as arrogant. In person I'm uh, humble? (Bound to get the stiff upper lip for this...) I could just comment in a desiccated tone. But then it?s just another monologue which doesn?t stir people ;)

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