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'Don't fast and you won't faint'

2007-09-17 23:04

Erika Gibson

Pretoria - There has been a furore at a Western Cape Air Force base, where a Muslim soldier who asked to be excused from a parade because of the fast of Ramadan was allegedly told by the Air Force that she had to take part.

A letter of objection was sent to the Air Force by the South African National Defence Force Union (Sandfu) on Monday morning, after a chaplain allegedly told the Muslim woman soldier that if she was afraid of fainting on parade, she should perhaps stop fasting.

According to the union the soldier was withdrawn from the parade after the Chaplain Service intervened on Monday afternoon.

The soldier, who is stationed at the Overberg Air Force base in the Western Cape, was to have been included in group drilling exercises this week, to prepare for and take part in a parade at the Ysterplaat Air Force base in Cape Town.

She sought permission beforehand to be excused because she was afraid that during the period of fasting, she could faint on parade, become dehydrated, or that her health could be affected by strenuous physical activity.

As a Muslim she may not eat or drink between dawn and sunset during Ramadan. She would therefore not have been able to drink water, even if her group drilled for hours in the sun.

Advocate Pikkie Greeff of SANDFU said her request was turned down despite a social worker's recommendation that her request should be looked upon favourably.

The request was denied as there was apparently not enough proof that the parade would be detrimental to her health.

The letter of objection from SANDFU's legal department stated that forced participation in the parade not only discriminated against this soldier, but all Muslim soldiers.

It was not that the soldiers were refusing to do their work, but they wanted to be excused from the additional duty (of taking part in the parade).

- Beeld


Long time ago 9/18/2007 2:18:19 AM
I remember when I was doing my national service and near the end of basics, wanted a Saturday off to attend my grandfather's 90th birthday. This was refused. And then they expect you to die for your country. (I also remember people dropping like flies, on parade, when they hadn't had breakfast. No proof!? Please.)

JapieDownUnder 9/18/2007 6:39:39 AM
God forbid that SA should ever be attacked during a religious holiday some time in the future! Half the SANDF will probably ask to be excused duty!

realist 9/18/2007 6:52:13 AM
From my understanding fasting is a choice not an absolute requirement. So SANDF to not deploy or go to war with muslim soldiers because in the haet of battle they will have to be excused because the additional stress of war might cause them to faint. Imagine if a muslim police officer could not pursue a suspect the added exercise could cause him to faint what a joke

Chris Nortier 9/18/2007 7:02:22 AM
If you want to serve with the military, be prepaired to sacrafice to serve in the interest of your country, and forget about individual interest. What dicipline do we have left with each and everybody's own agenda of interests? Get real and serve in favour of your choice or leave, after all its a free world. Maybe you just enjoy the favour of been on the taxpayers payroll.

ME 9/18/2007 7:03:18 AM
It's ur choice that u want 2 fast. I can't take off work because I missed breakfast.She knew that she would fast before she start to work in her feild. Why doesn't she just take unpaid leave while on fast. I believe that she would end her fast, fast. (Sorry about the pun)

Dillon 9/18/2007 7:09:27 AM
I don't think that religion, or the consequences thereof, should affect ones performance at work. Imagine the same woman during a time of war asking if she can be excused from protecting the nation because she may faint.

oduetse modisane 9/18/2007 7:11:33 AM
the excusal of muslim soldier in participating in all army activities as expected was not fair to the country and other service people because when she joined the army she knew what was expected of her and as a muslim loyal to her religion was supposed to decline appointment subject to the contract of service tailor made for her. i think South Africa should refrain from trying to please everybody to avoid the chaotic situation we are currently faced with

Martin 9/18/2007 7:24:58 AM
And what if the SANDF was involved in an armed conflict in the month of Ramadan? Would the soldier also be excused from the battlefield?

Vinny 9/18/2007 8:02:12 AM
Should you wish to be a soldier, you should be prepared to do what a soldier does. A soldier fights, is sometimes required to kill, and yes, on occasion, even drill on a parade ground. That's what you're paid for. If you can't or won't do that, as a result of choosing not to eat, pick another career, dear. This one's not for you. However, this country is already so full of people with excuses for not wanting to work, or being too lazy to work, that I'm not surprised by this.

bodie 9/18/2007 8:17:55 AM
So if a war breaks out, these Muslims will ask to be excused from the fighting until the fast ends? It's a farce is what it is. If you want to be a practicing muslim, make sure you choose a career that will allow you to practically comply with your religious beliefs rather than seek to be the exception that upsets the apple cart.

anno 9/18/2007 8:48:11 AM
We can not use religion as an excuse, why did she not take leave for the month of Ramadaan and at any rate when we have our festive season in December they enjoy these days as much as anybody else. When things don't suite people there will always be an excuse no matter what. I suggest she leaves and find some other work where her health is not at risk.

Jameyah Ally 9/18/2007 8:54:51 AM
If the people protecting us are discriminating and showing this kind of lack of understanding against it's own people, what prejudices do they not harbour when protecting the citizens of South Africa? Does the constitution not protect us against these biases and does it not enforce tolerance and understanding of others religions? I salute you soldier (from one muslim woman to another) for standing up for your religion in a male dominated realm. You go girl!

Trevor 9/18/2007 9:12:19 AM
I can't believe this story is newsworthy, let alone printed! I don't make the papers every time I get unjustly treated @ work! As it is, globally, Muslims are making bad news. Never mind the fact that using the words Muslim & Soldier in the same sentence is somewhat of a bad joke. This so-called Soldier is no different/any more special than every other SANDF member. It?s simple: When in Rome, do as the Romans do! Imagine the headline: English soldier in Pakistan NDF demands Pork Pie 4 Christmas

Average Joe 9/18/2007 9:14:04 AM
Sir, I cannot go to war today as I have a prior hair appointment. How inconsiderate of the military to have a parade during Ramadaan. What were those silly Generals thinking. Stop the world, I want to get off. Listen lady, if you don't want to go on parade, find another job!!Or were you forced to join the Air Force. Its amazing how these kinds of incidents receive national press coverage. Isn't there something important going on in South Africa to report on??

City Life 2 9/18/2007 11:01:39 AM
I have the deepest respect for freedom of religion, BUT if South Africa had to be invaded by another country & it happens to coincide with Ramadan...do we excuse these soldiers due to religious reasons & stop protecting our borders for those few days? One cannot have the best of both worlds...either join & participate in the Army/Navy or follow your religious beliefs to the letter.

Tanya 9/18/2007 11:10:51 AM
From what I hear from my Muslim colleagues, they should carry on with their normal duties as much as possible during fasting but should not over exert themselves, so stuff like gymming and swimming and things should be avoided...I guess its a case of how strenous is the parade actually?

Vernon Wolf 9/18/2007 11:48:11 AM
What would she do in a actual combat situation. I see no reason why her religion should be an excuse for her not to do her job. Many other things in her religion, as a woman, is being ignored by her doing the job she's doing.

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