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'7 days of sex' pastor in SA

2008-11-25 08:12

Charles Smith

Washington - The American pastor who initiated the Seven Days of Sex challenge among his flock had to find inventive ways to complete the challenge because he and his wife were coming to South Africa.

Rev Ed Young and his wife, Lisa, of the Fellowship Church in Texas, will be preaching at the Rivers Church in Sandton this coming weekend. This is the congregation of Rev André Olivier and his wife, Wilma.

The Youngs raised some eyebrows in the US with their challenge of seven days of "congregational copulation" among married couples.

They encouraged couples to become "sexperts" in this "sexperiment" (that ended on Monday).

But the Youngs, who literally took the lead in this project, had to leave for Britain and South Africa in the middle of their programme.

Young preached in London and will be preaching in Sandton, Johannesburg on 29 and 30 November.

Whirlwind

"I'm not even sure what day it is We've been going at such a whirlwind pace getting ready to go to London and Johannesburg that it's been a challenge to keep the challenge!" he wrote on his blog.

"But don't worry. Lisa and I haven't bailed out. It's just made us think more about our strategy to make time to make love.

"And there are so many things that Lisa and I have discovered so far."

The challenge elicited a mixed reaction among his parishioners.

One woman wrote that she and her husband were all set to go - when he got the flu.

"Yeah, OK, I'm, a man and I thought the challenge was fantastic, but after five days I'm on the floor, man. I'm taking vitamins and supplements for more stamina. It's more difficult than I thought... PS: If I fall asleep in church on Sunday, you'll know why! Ha-ha!" a man wrote to Rev Young.

Sermon from a bed

As he delivered his sermon from a large bed in front of the pulpit, Rev Young said it was time to put the bed back in the church - and to put God back in the bed.

Making love is part of a [married] man and woman's worship. It's part of their discipleship.

Married couples have too many excuses not to make love; that's why Rev Young told them to "Just do it!".

- Beeld


marian van der walt 11/25/2008 8:26:59 AM
how revolting.

Married Christian 11/25/2008 8:36:11 AM
Preach it brother!

Mandrake 11/25/2008 8:37:41 AM
The local version of this dude is called Rev Shembe.He preaches mostly to black communities, also goes on about women who've been married for years but have never seen how their husbands are without their clothes. he encourages couples "to explore each others' bodies and to have sex more often"... Weirdos

Donovan 11/25/2008 8:44:57 AM
It just goes to show how our priorities are mixed up - everything else seems to take precedence. By doing this it will clearly indicate that family comes first.

Really concerned Patriotic 11/25/2008 8:46:59 AM
If SA is goin to let dis "devilish worshiping" guy to come and have a congregation, well it just shows how badly we r bein spiritually driftd. Honestly, I realy think its tym every1 start lookin arnd and c how powerful is the devil in our motherland. I mn, no criticize, jus readin this paper will show you how demonic and scary our lovely country is. Im a SAfrican, leavin in other country, and i got to tell all that i am ashamed to read SA new in front of my pals, since der is nothin + 2 read abt

Barry 11/25/2008 8:58:44 AM
Why be so quick to judge? Why not hear first-hand rather than form opinion from an article?

Geoffrey van Wyk 11/25/2008 8:59:25 AM
This is nothing but satanism pretending to be Christianity.

Kdug 11/25/2008 8:59:39 AM
Sex is the most fun you can have without your clothes on.It's called the F Plan,sex for breakfast,sex for lunch and sex supper,sounds like a marvellous diet!

Christian standing against Fornication & Adultery 11/25/2008 9:05:24 AM
Ps Young has a great strategy with this. Sex is a gift created by God and intended as the ultimate bonding and enjoyment between HUSBAND and WIFE as part of the covenant sealed on the wedding day. The world has perversified it into a social common occurence - not as meant by God. What Ps Young is doing, is placing the emphasis correctly on how it is intended. I agree with him, it is time to bring the bed back into church and God back into our bedrooms.

Ndlovu 11/25/2008 9:05:34 AM
I think there is a lot of sense in what he preaches. I was married for many years and my wife and I hardly ever had sex. No wonder we are now divorced! How can any marriage work if the partners ignore making time for the most intimate enjoyment of each other? If you think this is revolting you obviously dont care about your relationship!

T 11/25/2008 9:05:42 AM
.... God made sex but these things are and should remain private. The guy should encourage marrieds to enjoy each other - but a 7 day challenge? Don't lose focus guys, it should all be about God and loving people!

Willie 11/25/2008 9:07:51 AM
If your heart jump into your throught when reading this, think carefully. "Is God glorified in my lovemaking?". People are shocked at sex mentioned in church but think God cannot see pornography addiction or more "subtill" a lustfull look at a colleague. Jesus is Lord of EVERYTHING. Including sex.

cc 11/25/2008 9:07:57 AM
I think it's great. Marriage is under attack in this society. Sex (in the right context) brings healing. Preach it brother... I may just start a 7 day challenge of my own!! ;)

herbert 11/25/2008 9:09:20 AM
OK firstly learn to type and use language that people over the age of 14 can understand.... Secondly this is an American pastor not SA, so he is preaching here ? First I also though this dude is wacked but I see nothing "devilish" as you so quaintly put it in his message. God made man and woman and said we should be one to His glory !! I say preach it brother... now I just need to find a wife lol !!

veeman 11/25/2008 9:10:29 AM
It is unfortunate that we should be reminded of our priority number one , which is to make sure that the human species will not be extinct . Everybody on this planet is a rpoduct of reproduction . If some people think sex is dirty , then they should maybe look at themselves first, since they are a product of sex . PREACH BROTHER PREACH ,RIGHT ON BROTHER .

herbert 11/25/2008 9:11:10 AM
OK firstly learn to type and use language that people over the age of 14 can understand.... Secondly this is an American pastor not SA, so he is preaching here ? First I also though this dude is wacked but I see nothing "devilish" as you so quaintly put it in his message. God made man and woman and said we should be one to His glory !! I say preach it brother... now I just need to find a wife lol !!

Isaac 11/25/2008 9:13:09 AM
Good news for those who committed themselves and believe in marriage. It is good for the church to open up and help those who are still traditional. It is a taboo to some saints to talk about sex.I hope he will be preaching to couples not young and singles, unless they will be getting into marriage soon. The church need to be responsible, not to encourage fornication and adultery among church members. I am just concern that, are we doing the right thing or are we missing the point as the church?

Jesus Freak 11/25/2008 9:18:04 AM
There is nothing devilish about preaching sex, and encouraging married couples to have sex, God made it,, so we can enjoy it, only under the covenant of marriage,,, yes its time to put the bed back in the church - and to put God back in the bed

Johannes 11/25/2008 9:18:19 AM
There will always be those who cling to dualistic perceptions that label anything different from themselves as "devilish". I am convinced that Making Love is the highest act of human communication, and when done from the heart it is greatly pleasing to God and very beneficial for the world.

Igno Vivier 11/25/2008 9:19:32 AM
When a man and woman have sex they become one in Body, Spirit and Soul. God created man and woman in His image. When you become one, you become stronger in body, spirit and soul. Stronger to fight the schemes of the devil, to stand stronger.(Soul ties) Stop being so bloody religious and see the beauty in this, the spirituality in this... Read Solomon's Song of Songs. Its R-rated and yet in the Bible.And one more thing check out Gretha Wiid, a preacher specifically on this subject. Google her.

mfamfa 11/25/2008 9:22:40 AM
People should do it in order to keep their partners happy and @ their side, partners go looking outside because they don't get enough @ home, and please creativity is essential.NG

Hellen 11/25/2008 9:23:17 AM
There is nothing devilish about preaching sex, and encouraging married couples to have sex, God made it,, so we can enjoy it, only under the covenant of marriage,,, yes its time to put the bed back in the church - and to put God back in the be.

Christian 11/25/2008 9:24:10 AM
You hypocrites!, The BIBLE clearly states that a man and his five will become one , one in mind body and sole and how do you become one unless you have Sex. Sex is an institution created by God for married couples and the man must lust for the body of his own wife and visa versa. If man and woman where more sincere toward the pleasure of his partners and his/hers desires there will be less broken homes and marriages.

Pieter 11/25/2008 9:28:20 AM
Geoffrey van Wyk and marian van der walt, ask a dominee and you'll find its not. Church isn't as rediculously uncool as you think, not even close. if you're shocked at this you'll be blown away by the things that get laughingly and lovingly get discussed in pre-marraige counselling.

Rafiki 11/25/2008 9:32:47 AM
what is so revolting about this task. I think we should have 7 day of Sex in our calenders. Most people need it. It is time we take sex out of the black box.

Kale 11/25/2008 9:35:26 AM
So showing kids sec in school was educational now we have kids at the age of 8 having sex. Parents used to complain about sex on TV but because you promote it in church that's perfectly fine? I thought church was a place to worship God not some brothel - making love is an act that two people should share not preached about. I used to feel bad about not going to church but I'm again reminded that it's all about money and now sex. You people disgust me.

Ntsako Baloyi 11/25/2008 9:44:06 AM
The power of influence can be great to lead the mind to high and noble themes, above the low, sensual indulgences for which the heart unrenewed by grace naturally seeks. If the wife feels that in order to please her husband she must come down to his standard, when animal passion is the principal basis of his love and controls his actions, she displeases God; for she fails to exert a sanctifying influence upon her husband. If she feels that she must submit to his animal passions without a word of remonstrance, she does not understand her duty to him nor to her God. Sexual excess will effectually destroy a love for devotional exercises, will take from the brain the substance needed to nourish the system, and will most effectively exhaust the vitality. No woman should aid her husband in this work of self-destruction. She will not do it if she is enlightened and has true love for him.

siya 11/25/2008 9:59:04 AM
i think its a graet idea .I think every married couple shuold try it and see where it will show them

Sven Gohre 11/25/2008 10:04:41 AM
It is astounding that a man calling for more sex between married couples can be called satanic. Our newspapers and Televisions are filled with violence against woman and children. Wars, dictators and disease are killing millions across the planet and there are people who condemn sex? Get a life, for without sex, there is no humanity, without sex life ceases to exist. Grow up and deal with the most beautiful thing two people can experience together.

Mil 11/25/2008 10:17:48 AM
I agree that the topic of sex should be preached because it happens in our lives on a daily basis. Partners need to embrace their relationships. Amen to that!!

Kurt Cairns 11/25/2008 10:26:20 AM
Go Pastor Young! Go Rivers Church! Maybe people should be open to this and less open to divorce. When another article pops up labelled "divorce", then people dont shout "DEVILISH"..... But when a man of God takes a different approach to keeping marriages on fire then it becomes "Devilish"? Food for thought.... :) I love my Church!!!! HELPING PEOPLE!

Alan Gover 11/25/2008 10:31:31 AM
Marian van der Walt: How do you think were concieved? Do you really think God intended sex to be revolting? Geoffrey van Wyk: What Bible are you reading? Its people like this that give religion a bad name

Mil 11/25/2008 10:31:35 AM
It is high time that we talk about sexuality. Young people sometimes get into sexual lives before even understanding what it is. The more they know about this issue the better decision they will make in terms of waiting other than jumping into something that is new to them and not having better knowledge of. As much as the church preaches about it to married couples, they also need to alert the unmarried couples as well on how to go about dealing with sexual temptations before marriage.

Sindiswa Moguerane 11/25/2008 10:35:26 AM
The bible clearly states that Perilious times shall come n having 2 hear such makes 1 look back n think of what hour we are living in. The bible says that in those times, we will have false prophets who will come with their devilish deeds all in the name of God. This so called preacher is hear to make himself some cash and sadly leave everyone broke and spiritually damned and confused. I highly believe in self-discipline and self motivation. Let us do things with our eyes wide awake. Help him.

Dee 11/25/2008 10:36:27 AM
So, I suppose the people who are revolted and disgusted by this, believe that they are all immaculate conceptions? With the right type of preaching and guiding, bringing sex into church will help in reducing adultery, HIV/AIDS and teenage pregnancy. This priest, is coming up with solutions that could assist in reducing the divorce rate anyway. I don't know what the "stuck upness" of some people are. Sex is normal. It's an act of love if done right.

Felicia 11/25/2008 10:36:48 AM
This will absolutely take away the "power" that evil has over sex and nudity. It's a positive thing, and will certainly convince those married individuals to stop committing adultry. Sex has eben accosiated with evil so long exactly due to the reason that it does not get discussed in churches and ulitmately because God gets left out of the bed.

Lappies 11/25/2008 10:37:19 AM
First of all please note that the Devil can not create any thing but uses creation (whiat is already created and pervirts it) secondly it clearly indicates that the global church is not preaching what it is suppose to preach meaning "christians" is suppose to preach the Gospel of the Kingdome not of all this nonsence that clearly indicates that we so called "christians" dont know our assignment. What is amaising to me is that when during daiting sex was not the issue but now it is top news.

Kgotso 11/25/2008 10:58:09 AM
He must keep on preaching it because its good for lovers and maried couple to practice it daily as it is good for them. Me and my fiance we make luv everyday but at most we are doing it twice a day and im intending to increase to six times. The good news is that we are expecting a Little Kgotso. We are doing this for the love of sex, luv making.

iris charmz 11/25/2008 10:58:26 AM
The media has destroyed the sanctity of marriage. I agree with Sex in marriage = Spiritual Warfare. With no open doors in the marriage, the couple is stronger to fight any warefare facing their family. Why make everything ugly when this Ps is just reminding married couples about a portion of their Union? It is not only work, children and life.

Mukhomi 11/25/2008 11:34:22 AM
i think is out of hand to preach about sex at church, because it will consume time for good news of God,healing and repanding of people.I also do not think we will able to see visions.I do not support it at all.If a wife and husband have a problem with their sexuality must ask for a conceling from a pastor not taking it as heading topreach about in the church.God help your nation.....amen 'Jesus said go and preach avangel those who will believe must be...Suprised

Tebogo 11/25/2008 11:57:20 AM
No sex in the bedroom, leads to seeking it outside, seeking it out leads to bastards, diseases and untrustworthiness, leading to divorce even amongst Christians -Born-agains are also not immune to such distruction. Learn to talk openly with your wife/ husband and act as per request to avoid the above. Ladies the headache, prolonged menstruations, crying kids excuses etc doesn't help the holy matrimony at all. Boys, it not at all about you but about both of you! So Pastor BRING IT ON,SA NEEDS IT

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