So, the towering intellects that rule MyNews24 have forced me to finally acknowledge their collective genius. How could I do otherwise? I’m obviously an idiot; they say so! God doesn’t exist; how could he, when so many of the trolls on this site have categorically stated that He doesn’t. It’s a good thing these people are here to correct me, or I would forever be lost in my ignorance and stupidity, as are and were the people below.
Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first mathematically based system of planets going around the sun. He attended various European universities, and became a Canon in the Catholic church in 1497. His new system was actually first presented in the Vatican gardens in 1533 before Pope Clement VII who approved, and urged Copernicus to publish it around this time. Copernicus was never under any threat of religious persecution - and was urged to publish both by Catholic Bishop Guise, Cardinal Schonberg, and the Protestant Professor George Rheticus. Copernicus referred sometimes to God in his works, and did not see his system as in conflict with the Bible. He would have been in awe of you guys. Did his stupidity know no limits?
Sir Francis Bacon was a philosopher who is known for establishing the scientific method of inquiry based on experimentation and inductive reasoning. In De Interpretatione Naturae Prooemium, Bacon established his goals as being the discovery of truth, service to his country, and service to the church. Although his work was based upon experimentation and reasoning, he rejected atheism as being the result of insufficient depth of philosophy, stating, ‘It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity.’ Didn’t he know there’s no God? No Santa, no tooth fairy? Whoa, you have to pity them!
Johannes Kepler was a brilliant mathematician and astronomer. He did early work on light, and established the laws of planetary motion about the sun. He also came close to reaching the Newtonian concept of universal gravity - well before Newton was born! His introduction of the idea of force in astronomy changed it radically in a modern direction. Kepler was an extremely sincere and pious Lutheran, whose works on astronomy contain writings about how space and the heavenly bodies represent the Trinity. Kepler suffered no persecution for his open avowal of the sun-centered system, and, indeed, was allowed as a Protestant to stay in Catholic Graz as a Professor (1595-1600) when other Protestants had been expelled! See how the church stifles science?
Galileo is often remembered for his conflict with the Roman Catholic Church. His controversial work on the solar system was published in 1633. It had no proofs of a sun-centred system (Galileo's telescope discoveries did not indicate a moving earth) and his one 'proof' based upon the tides was invalid. It ignored the correct elliptical orbits of planets published twenty five years earlier by Kepler. Since his work finished by putting the Pope's favourite argument in the mouth of the simpleton in the dialogue, the Pope (an old friend of Galileo's) was very offended. After the 'trial' and being forbidden to teach the sun-centred system, Galileo did his most useful theoretical work, which was on dynamics. Galileo expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts. Does the stupidity never end?
Rene Descartes was a French mathematician, scientist and philosopher who has been called the father of modern philosophy. His school studies made him dissatisfied with previous philosophy: He had a deep religious faith as a Roman Catholic, which he retained to his dying day, along with a resolute, passionate desire to discover the truth. At the age of 24 he had a dream, and felt the vocational call to seek to bring knowledge together in one system of thought. His system began by asking what could be known if all else were doubted - suggesting the famous 'I think therefore I am'.
Actually, it is often forgotten that the next step for Descartes was to establish the near certainty of the existence of God - for only if God both exists and would not want us to be deceived by our experiences - can we trust our senses and logical thought processes. God is, therefore, central to his whole philosophy. What he really wanted to see was that his philosophy be adopted as standard Roman Catholic teaching. Rene Descartes and Francis Bacon (1561-1626) are generally regarded as the key figures in the development of scientific methodology. Both had systems in which God was important, and both seem more devout than the average for their era. Again with God?! What was wrong with these people? If they’d come on this forum, they’d have been put right soon enough!
Blaise Pascal was a French mathematician, physicist, inventor, writer and theologian. In mathematics, he published a treatise on the subject of projective geometry and established the foundation for probability theory. Pascal invented a mechanical calculator, and established the principles of vacuums and the pressure of air. He was raised a Roman Catholic, but in 1654 had a religious vision of God, which turned the direction of his study from science to theology. Pascal began publishing a theological work, Lettres provinciales, in 1656. His most influential theological work, the Pensées ('Thoughts'), was a defence of Christianity, which was published after his death. The most famous concept from Pensées was Pascal's Wager. Pascal's last words were, 'May God never abandon me.' What God? The pink unicorn that lives under his bed?
In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Isaac Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding God's plan for history from the Bible. He did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology was very important. In his system of physics, God was essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, ‘The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.’ Liar!
One of the founders and key early members of the Royal Society, Robert Boyle gave his name to 'Boyle's Law' for gases, and also wrote an important work on chemistry. Encyclopaedia Britannica says of him: ‘By his will he endowed a series of Boyle lectures, or sermons, which still continue, 'for proving the Christian religion against notorious infidels...' As a devout Protestant, Boyle took a special interest in promoting the Christian religion abroad, giving money to translate and publish the New Testament into Irish and Turkish. In 1690 he developed his theological views in The Christian Virtuoso, which he wrote to show that the study of nature was a central religious duty.’ Boyle wrote against atheists in his day (the notion that atheism is a modern invention is a myth), and was clearly much more devoutly Christian than the average in his era. What sort of scientist was this? Obviously not very good, or clever, or he wouldn’t have believed all that rubbish.
Michael Faraday was the son of a blacksmith who became one of the greatest scientists of the 19th century. His work on electricity and magnetism not only revolutionised physics, but led to much of our lifestyles today, which depends on them (including computers and telephone lines and, so, web sites). Faraday was a devoutly Christian member of the Sandemanians, which significantly influenced him and strongly affected the way in which he approached and interpreted nature. Originating from Presbyterians, the Sandemanians rejected the idea of state churches, and tried to go back to a New Testament type of Christianity. What New Testament Christianity? These people were all liars and charlatans, who should have called it Paulianity. Jesus never existed!
William Kelvin was foremost among the small group of British scientists who helped to lay the foundations of modern physics. His work covered many areas of physics, and he was said to have more letters after his name than anyone else in the Commonwealth, since he received numerous honorary degrees from European Universities, which recognized the value of his work. He was a very committed Christian, who was certainly more religious than the average for his era. Interestingly, his fellow physicists George Gabriel Stokes (1819-1903) and James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) were also men of deep Christian commitment, in an era when many were nominal, apathetic, or anti-Christian. The Encyclopaedia Britannica says ‘Maxwell is regarded by most modern physicists as the scientist of the 19th century who had the greatest influence on 20th century physics; he is ranked with Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein for the fundamental nature of his contributions.’ Lord Kelvin was an Old Earth creationist, who estimated the Earth's age to be somewhere between 20 million and 100 million years, with an upper limit at 500 million years based on cooling rates (a low estimate due to his lack of knowledge about radiogenic heating). Idiot.
Max Planck made many contributions to physics, but is best known for quantum theory, which revolutionized our understanding of the atomic and sub-atomic worlds. In his 1937 lecture 'Religion and Naturwissenschaft,' Planck expressed the view that God is everywhere present, and held that 'the holiness of the unintelligible Godhead is conveyed by the holiness of symbols.' Atheists, he thought, attach too much importance to what are merely symbols. Planck was a churchwarden from 1920 until his death, and believed in an almighty, all-knowing, beneficent God (though not necessarily a personal one). Both science and religion wage a ‘tireless battle against skepticism and dogmatism, against unbelief and superstition’ with the goal ‘toward God!’ Can you imagine if he came up against the scientists on this forum? I shudder to think. He would have slunk away with his tail between his legs after they finished with him.
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopaedia Britannica says of him: ‘Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in 'Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists.' This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: ‘I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details.’ Einstein's famous epithet on the ‘uncertainty principle’ was ‘God does not play dice with the universe’ - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was ‘Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.’ As Mr. T used to say, on the A Team, ‘Pity the poor fool.’
A lecturer in Astrophysics at CalTech and later MIT, Professor Hugh Ross came to a belief in Christ when he made a mocking remark about Jesus appearing in a room, obviously having walked through a door or wall. One of his students observed, ’That could happen in six dimensions or more.’ It momentarily silenced him, then set him on a search, to see if the evidence for the Bible and the deity of Jesus stood up to examination. He was stupid enough to believe it did, and became a devout Christian. In addition, he began studying Hebrew to analyse the Creation account, and is convinced that the days mentioned are, in fact, vast periods of time. He calls it Progressive Creation, as it happened over may millions of years, in the order laid out in the Creation account. Amazingly, he didn’t lose his job when he lost his mind.
Professor David Block was elected a Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society of London at age 19. His first research paper, on relativistic astrophysics, was published in London, by the Royal Astronomical Society, at age 20. Professor Block is currently Director of the Anglo American Cosmic Dust Laboratory at the University of the Witwatersrand. In 2006, Professor Block received the University’s highest research accolade: the Vice-Chancellor’s Research Award.
Professor Block’s research work has twice been featured on the cover of the prestigious scientific journal, ‘Nature.’ He was the Principal Investigator of a team of astronomers from Harvard University, the Observatoire de Paris and the University of the Witwatersrand who used the Spitzer Space Telescope to solve a 200 million year old riddle in our neighbouring spiral galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy. Professor Kenneth Freeman, Fellow of the Royal Society, penned the following words about this discovery:
‘The findings, through the eyes of the Spitzer Space Telescope imaging the majestic Andromeda Spiral Galaxy, ranks as one of the most important discoveries yet made concerning that galaxy’s history, ever since Charles Messier catalogued it as a diffuse object on August 3, 1764.’
US astronomer, John Kormendy, describes the career of Professor Block:
‘David Block is to South Africa what Carl Sagan was to American astronomy – his pioneering discoveries are reshaping astronomical paradigms, and his imprint on human culture is a legacy to all South Africans as you build your future in the technological 21st century.’
David Block is a devout, evangelical Christian, and uses every available opportunity to preach the Gospel. Doesn’t he know that he’s holding back human development and the cause of science? Boy, he’s lucky he’s not on this site: they would make mincemeat of him!
Then we come to the Dead Sea Scrolls. The supposed find of a shepherd boy, and we’re supposed to believe it?! The initial discovery was by chance in 1947, when Bedouin shepherds found seven scrolls or parts of scrolls and fragments, along with store jars and broken pottery jars in a cave overlooking the northwest end of the Dead Sea. When a dealer acting on behalf of the shepherds sold the scrolls, they came to the attention of scholars in Jerusalem and then the scholarly world.
Subsequent investigations in the area of the cave of discovery ultimately led to the recovery of documents in a total of eleven caves and the excavation of a modest ruin nearby known as Khirbet (the ruin of) Qumran. All of this was occurring as the modern State of Israel was coming into existence, with all the political upheaval involved in that development. As this century ends and a new one begins, efforts for a peaceful political settlement in the region continue and give signs of reaching fruition. In the meantime, scholars continue to study the multitude of fragments recovered and to attempt to assess their significance.
Among the more than eight hundred documents represented by whole scrolls, incomplete scrolls, and a myriad of fragments which have been recovered are complete copies or portions of all the books in the Hebrew Bible (our OT), except for the Book of Esther. These texts are older by at least a thousand years than any previous biblical texts written in Hebrew that we had prior to the discovery. They provide a window into the textual history of the OT prior to the closure of the canon.
Besides copies of scriptural texts, from the caves in the Qumran area came sectarian documents that open a panorama on the obscure Jewish group apparently related to the production and deposition of the manuscripts. This group was likely the Essenes, previously known from references to them in the writings of Flavius Josephus, Philo Judaeus, and Pliny the Elder. All the texts discovered, taken together, open a critical window into events in Palestine in the decades prior to and following the birth of Christ (although no NT texts were found among the scrolls) up to the time of the First Jewish Revolt against the Romans. The historical period of the Dead Sea Scrolls illuminates the environment in which Christianity developed in Palestine, the transformation of Judaism into Rabbinic Judaism in the aftermath of the First Revolt of the Jews against the Romans with the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple, and the context in which the canonization of Holy Scripture was progressing.
The Dead Sea Scrolls now reside mainly in the Shrine of the Book, a part of the Israel Museum in Jerusalem where they are on display. The Copper Scroll can be seen in the Archaeological Museum in Amman, Jordan. Many of the small fragments are housed in the Rockefeller Museum in East Jerusalem. Scholars work almost exclusively with photographs and microfilm of the fragments, however, and these are available to scholars at many of the major universities around the world. It is likely that researchers will still be at work on the scrolls fifty years hence.
This is why reasonable people don’t believe in God: slipshod research by stupid people who don’t know enough to come out of the rain. They believe in God with no evidence to support that belief. Thank God I logged onto this site and was shown the error of my ways.
No more believing in pink unicorns, fairies at the bottom of my garden or, in fact, Russell’s Teapot. In spite of the vast body of evidence to support Russell’s Teapot, I know better. And the evidence for the historicity of the Bible? How can it possibly be if there’s no God?
Finally, I’ve decided that the towering intellectuals on this site are right after all. After all, how could they possibly be wrong when they state their case so eloquently?
So, thank you for straightening me out once and for all.
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