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An Atheist admitting Jesus probably existed

29 October 2012, 13:05

Well, this might come as a surprise to some of you, but the historical evidence of the existence of Jesus does lend some credibility that such a man did in fact exist. Lets look at Jesus and what can be said about him from history.

He was a tekton, and also a son of a tekton. The word tekton has been mistranslated as carpenter. Its more of a generalization, including masonry, metal work, yes carpentry etc. Its one of the many mistranslations in the bible. A good historical guess as to where Jesus worked is in the city of Tzipori (a city only 65 km away from Galilee) , which was destroyed by a Roman army and was then rebuilt. A lot of work would be available there for skilled artisans such Jesus and his father, who were both tekton.

The story of Joseph having to go to Bethlehem (house of bread) due to some or other census if pure fallacy. It is considered one of the many examples of religions adding things to the story so it will go the way they want it to. The reason it has been accepted as fallacy is threefold. Number one, the reason for the Census is illogical. There would be no reason that you would be required to go the place your forefathers came from for a Census, because a Census would be in order to see where people are at that time, not where their forefathers came from. Second, its impracticable. Some people could not possibly know where their forefathers came from, such as orphans, illiterate and so many more, so even if a logical reason existed, it would be impossible to trace a large portion of the population's lineage back far enough in order for them to partake in the Census. Thirdly, there is no historical evidence of said Census. This leaves the only conclusion that Jesus was most probably born in Galilee. 

It is believed that Jesus spoke Aramaic (which was the main language at the time in the area he lived) and Greek. The Greek was deduced from certain parts of the bible where Jesus converses with someone and the what he says only makes sense if it was said in Greek. In other words, in Aramaic (and English) the words are nonsensical, but if you take them in Greek, they make perfect sense.

The one person in the bible, other than Pontius Pilate, that can be confirmed is John the Baptist. He was a very well known figure during the time.  He had a apocalyptic message, with Jesus being one of his followers. John was a very big figure during the time, having a large following. A large part of Jesus' following came from John's, especially after John died. It should be noted here that John's followers believed he had been resurrected after his death and this has been assumed to be why Jesus' followers afterwards expected the same from him, seeing as a large part of them came from John's followers. Compared to John, Jesus was a small fry. John's following was far larger and it is considered that he was seen as a threat, which is why Herod had him executed.

The execution of Jesus is also considered real. The time and reason for it though does not fit with the bible's reasons. First of all, he could not have been executed during passover. The law at the time did not allow it. Secondly, the trial of Jesus was not witnessed by anyone who wrote about it, so the reasons for it cannot be made clear. It is considered that Jesus' prediction of his crucifixion is another of those biblical fallacies.

So what is the historical Jesus really like. Well, he was a follower of John the Baptist, later on carrying on to some degree his message. His followers said he was raised from the dead, but historically it is not accepted. It is more attested to the fact that it was said the same about John during the time. His following was never that of his mentor's and he was only really considered significant long after his death. He never proclaimed to be the Messiah, his followers did that for him way after his death, which rings like another of those biblical fallacies inserted for religious gains. His surname was never Christ, Christ basically means anointed...something which was done to anyone considered a prophet, or a king or for other reasons too. He was an ordinary man, who lived a less than ordinary life and he died for reasons unknown and much speculated during the years 30-36 AD. In other words, historically, he was not the son of any god, he was not any type of Messiah, he was just a tekton who fell in with a religious man during a time in a place where religion was a very strong way of life. He followed in his mentor's footsteps and in the end, met the same fate.

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