Another example of creationist dishonesty.
This article is rewritten and altered from http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Cretinists-and-The-Geological-Column-20130131.
This needs to be done as Sydney Albertus Daniel repeated a total untruth again, even after been pointed out exactly where he lied in a previous comment.
His repeated untruth was made in a comment at 20:30, September 19, in the article http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Doubts-about-evolution-20130917
The repeated untruth:
Let me enlighten you on the 'geologic column'.
The Fossil Record...Evolutionists have constructed the Geologic Column in order to illustrate the supposed progression of "primitive" life forms to "more complex" systems we observe today.
This certainly is an untruth.
From the previous article published:
This article is written to explain to people what a geologic column is and how creationists always tell untruths about.
What is a Geological Column?
From Glossary of Geology, American Geological Institute, Fourth Printing 1977:
Geologic column: (a) A composite diagram that shows in a single column the subdivisions of part or all of geologic time or the sequence of stratigraphic units of a given locality or region (the oldest at the bottom and the youngest at the top, with dips adjusted to the horizontal) so arranged to indicate their relations to the subdivision of geologic time and their relative positions to each other.
(b) The vertical or chronologic arrangement or sequence of rock units portrayed in a geologic column.
Normally geologists refer to time tables when referring to time scales or stratigraphic columns or tables when they refer to rocks in an area, but I won’t discuss this here.
What do creationists make of "the" geologic column?
"The" geologic column (as creationists call it) is referenced to something similar to found in this link: http://ebeltz.net/firstfam/geocolum.html
Note that "The" geological column indicates time, not "rocks", nor thicknesses. Just time and how we name the different time "periods".
Creationists tend to tell that each of those time periods refer to "one rock layer" and is "supposed to be theoretically x metres thick". Then they also tell untruths about "geologists using evolutionary assumptions" for "The" Geologic Column.And then "polystrate" fossils are mentioned, too. Which, of course are all ridiculous untruths they keep on spreading.
The way "the" geologic column was compiled:
This compilation started in 1669, with Steno’s superposition principle (basically that Sedimentary layers are deposited in a time sequence, with the oldest on the bottom and the youngest on the top). Quite logical. Gravity.
"The" geological column was compiled with the aid of the fossil assemblages in rocks; especially with the use of index fossils who were of great value.
All those "rocks" containing a similar "fossil assemblage", are given names, such as "Cambrian" with a specific fossil assemblage or "Permian" with another fossil assemblage. Doesn’t matter how may rock ‘layers’ there are or how thick those rock ‘layers’ are, they are all Cambrian or Permian.
The name "Cambrian", thus, does not reflect a rock or rocks or layers of rock, but a time period. When a geologist refers to "Cambrian strata", they thus refer to a time period. (Exactly like a teenager is not 13 and 14 and 15 and 16 and 17 and 18 and 19 years old, but has an age falling in the teens).
The relative ages of the rocks were thus compiled by comparing which fossils were above which fossils; daisy-chaining around the world and giving these time-periods names. Any Ordovician fossil is thus younger than a Cambrian fossil, because Ordovician fossils occur above Cambrian fossils if you dig down.
For information on how and when all these time periods were compiled in sequence of age, here is a good link. The names of the persons who described the different major time periods as well as the date they did it can be seen there.
I’ll copy some of that post (have a look at the years, and remember that Darwin published his first edition in 1859):
1. 1669 - Steno publishes on principle of superposition.
2. 1760 - Professor Antonio Vallisnieri first developed and described and named the Tertiary and Quaternary Periods.
3. 1795 - Alexander von Humboldt recognizes the "Jura-Kalkstein" (Jurrasic) as a distinctive rock unit.
4. 1815 - William "strata" Smith publishes "The Geological Map of England and Wales." Based entirely on his own extensive field work, this map combines the principle of faunal succession and principle of superposition to correlate outcrops of sedimentary strata." NOTE: William Smith's research is described in "The Map That Changed the World: William Smith and the Birth of Modern Geology" (HarperCollins) by Simon Winchester.
5. 1822 - d'Omalius d'Halloy, reviewing extensive field studies of others divides the Secondary rocks of the Paris Basin into five groups. The uppermost of these he calls "Terrain Cretace. (We call it Cretaceous)"
6. 1822 - Conybeare and Phillips publish the "Outlines of Geology of England and Wales. The Carboniferous and Cretaceous Periods are first formally named.
7. 1833 - H. P. I. Reboul publishes research that points out the Quaternary Period as being typified by fossils of animals and plants like those now living.
8. 1833 - Lyell, on the basis of relative percentages of living versus extinct fossils subdivides the Tertiary into Newer Pliocene, Older Pliocene, Miocene, and Eocene. He examined 40,000 specimens from each of these units to determine the relative percentage of living to extinct in each.
9. 1834 - Friedrich August von Alberti after an intensive study of rocks that constitute the salt deposits of Germany publishes articles that establish the Triassic period as having a distinctive fossil assemblage with a relative time significance.
10. 1835 - Adam Sedgwick and Roderick Murchison publish "On the Silurian and Cambrian Systems", exhibiting the order in which the older sedimentary strata succeed each other in England and Wales. This publication, based upon years of field work, by them officially names the Cambrian and Silurian Periods.
11. 1838 - Adam Sedgwick first introduces the concept of the Paleozoic Era at a talk before the Geological Society of London.
12. 1839 - Leopold von Buch, based on field work going back to 1795, publishes "Uber den Jura in Deutschland." This publication officially defines the Jurrasic Period and divides it into upper, middle, and lower subdivisions.
13. 1839 - Lyell renames "Newer Pliocene" as the "Pleistocene" Epoch.
14. 1839 - Adam Sedgwick and Roderick Murchison jointly propose the Devonian Period based upon its unique fossil faunas and principle of superposition which shows that it lies between previously recognized periods. Contrary to false claims made by Young Earth creationists, the recognition of this period, as with the other periods, and its placement has nothing to do with the relative complexity of fossils.
15. 1840 - John Phillips first uses the terms "Mesozoic Era" and "Kainozoic (Cenozoic) Era" in an article in the "Penny Encyclopedia."
16. 1841 - Roderick Murchison publishes paper which defines the Permian Period. Again, age of this period is based upon the relative position of these strata between Triassic and Carboniferous Rocks. This publication is the direct result of field studies in the Urals near Perm in Russia.
17. 1854 - Heinrich Ernst von Beyrich recognizes and defines the Oligocene Epoch.
18. 1858 - Darwin's first public presentation on his theory of evolution.
19. 1874 - W. P. Schimper recognizes and names the Paloecene Epoch.
20. 1879 - Lapworth defines the Ordovician Period based upon his studies of graptolite fossils in North and South Wales.
Of all the major "Epochs" containing life, recognized today, only the Paleocene, Ordovician and the subdivisions of the Precambrian were described after Darwin published in 1859. Everybody can thus see that the vast bulk of ‘the’ geological column was thus configured before Darwin wrote "The Origin of Species". That’s how he could use the fossil succession as evidence for evolution by means of natural selection. Evolution is the fact; natural selection is the theory.
These time periods were confirmed with the advent of absolute dating methods, such as radiometric dating, in the middle of the last century. Those showed that our relative dating was correct, but also gave us absolute dates. For example, the Cambrian lasted from around 600 million years ago to around 505 million years ago, thus a period lasting around 95 million years.
Creationists just keep on repeating untruths:
It was a lie the first time Sydney Albertus Daniel wrote his untruth down. It was still a lie when he wrote it down again.
Creationists always have to tell untruths. That’s all they have.
The vast bulk of "The" Geologic Column was constructed way before Darwin wrote his wonderful book. The evolution of life is a fact, as witnessed by "the" geological column. Darwin used it as evidence for his theory of the origin of species by means of natural selection.
Next time some creationist, such as, Sydney Albertus Daniel , lies to you, tell him he is telling complete untruths. Laugh at him or her.
Berry, W. B. N., 1968, Growth of the Prehistoric Time Scale. W. H. Freeman and Company, San Francisco. 158 pp.
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