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Disprove Abiogenesis and prove God exists?

17 June 2014, 10:31
Can the Theory of Evolution stand without Abiogenesis?
I have seen a few articles recently that make me wonder how stupid people can get? Mostly these articles deal with subjects such as Evolution being incompatible with religious beliefs and how if you can prove Abiogenesis wrong Evolution as a theory fails. These intellectual giants also seem to think that if the prove abiogenesis wrong the prove that God exists. 
Let's start with Proof of God's existance and or non existance. There is no Scientific study dedicated to either of these precepts. There is no Scientific study to prove or disprove my rainbow bunny in my shorts, Russels Teapot, The Luminescant green Camel, The Unicorn that urinates rainbows and poops chocolate biscuits. The reason for this is that there is no proof for the existance of any of these. They may or may not exist and nobody is going to fund scientific research to prove that they don't exist. It would be folly to attempt to prove the unprovable. 
Abiogenesis is a hypothesis, It is hypothesised that at some point there was a big bang and the ever expanding universe stems from that point. Observation makes this a valid hypothesis and the building blocks of Scientific endeavour seem to support this with the data we currently have. Note Abiogenesis does niot touch on The Theory of Evolution.
Let's look at some more hypothesis about how the world started. The Abrahamic God created it, Observation and current Scientific knowledge discount this as the Bible claims a start date of 6000 years, There are rocks in my garden older than that. Based on the Abrahamic God's timeline those rocks cannot have existed prior to his poofing them into being. If we ignore the timeline stated by the Bible and accept this as a possible cause for the existance of the universe, as many religious people do, yet they accept Evolution as a reality, so creation does not automatically exclude evolution so even with the Creation hypothesis evolution can stand on it's own.
The Cherokee creation belief describes the earth as a great floating island surrounded by seawater. It hangs from the sky by cords attached at the four cardinal points. The story tells that the first earth came to be when Dâyuni'sï (Beaver's Grandchild), the little Water beetle came from Gälûñ'lätï, the sky realm, to see what was below the water. He scurried over the surface of the water, but found no solid place to rest. He dived to the bottom of the water and brought up some soft mud. This mud expanded in every direction and became the earth. According to the account recorded in 1900 by the Bureau of American Ethnology. Even if the Cherokees were right about creation there is nothing there that excludes evolution.
I could posit that an alien being larger than the universe was having a good old onanistic time and splashed his seed on a rock and this was the start of creation. Even this hypothesis could have led to evolution. 
Evolution is a theory, which started as a hypothesis and when the evidence mounted and the proof was undeniable it became a Theory. DNA, Fossils and lot's of other evidence exists that proves Evolution. The first man to discover a fossil of a bunny or a human skeleton mixed in with ancient fossils will surely be feted as the one who destroyed the Theory of Evolution, but here is the thing, If any proof is found that disproves evolution, Scientists will be the ones to find it. 
And when that happens the Theory of Evolution will stop being a credible explanation for the development of the creatures on the little blue dot. The first person that supplies proof of the existance of the Spaghetti Monster, Vishnu or any of the 4000 sky pilots that men have worshiped through the ages will have the whole world convert immediately.
When there is no proof for the existance of anything, there is no need to disprove it's existance, It is not at all feasible to prove that something is not there, It is only possible to prove it is. If you get arrested for a crime and claim you were not there, You don't try and prove you were not there, You prove where you were. 
If I was holding a bat behind my back and told you this, You would not have to prove it was not there, I would have to prove it was. If I told you that I had an invisible pink unicorn in my garden, You could automatically dismiss my claim because I have no proof for it, If however I could prove that it was there, you would be wrong. Hoof marks would not prove anything because we could think of at least two animals that have horse like feet and depending on whether we were in the Kruger Park or residential Ermelo we could hazard a guess if they were pony tracks or Zebra tracks.
Disproving Abiogenesis will not prove or disprove the existance of any of the 4000 Gods, It will merely disprove abiogenesis. 
Just to remind you Atheism is not Science, Atheism is the disbelief in any of the 4000 or so gods that men have worshipped. Science is not Atheism, Science is the study of our world and has many different areas of study from Abiogenesis to Zoology.
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