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God did not create the Universe!

17 September 2012, 12:20

 God did not create the universe! 

Followed on from  http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Who-is-the-Creator-Part-1-20120914 

As pointed out in Part 1 the off pat answer "God created it" is not an explanation of how the universe came to be, since no account is given of which religions God did it and how he did it. Some people think there is only one God and he is the same for everybody, as his name only changes because of different languages (God in English, Allah in Arabic, Dieu in French and so on). But that is not true because the definitions of God vary from religion to religion, as do the rules, regulations and instructions given by each religions sacred book. 

In any case it is irrelevant as to which religions God created the universe because science has discovered that the universe did not need to be created as it has all ways existed. Steven Hawking wrote in "A Brief History of Time" that time and space started at the Big Bang. The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model that explains the early development of the universe and it explains how the universe has changed. According to General Relativity, the initial state of the universe, at the beginning of the Big Bang, was a singularity. All the mass of the universe was once compacted into a space one trillionth the diameter of a proton. 

Therefore you can say without contradiction that "the universe as we know it today began to change approx 13.75 billion years ago". Stephen Hawking reiterates in "The Grand Design" that there is no big gap in the scientific account of the big bang. The laws of physics can explain, he says, how a universe of space, time and matter could emerge spontaneously, without the need for God. All cosmologists and astrophysicists agree: we don't need a “god-of-the-gaps” to make the big bang go ‘bang”. It can happen as part of a natural process as the fundamental forces of the universe take us there. Gravity and other forces take a collection of randomly sorted atoms and forms star and planets, bring water and atmosphere to the surface and denser materials to the core. Chemistry takes random interactions of molecules and produces a higher-order structure. 

Religious people often feel tricked by this scientific logic. They envisage a miracle - working God dwelling within the stream of time for all eternity and then, for some inscrutable reason, supernaturally creating a universe, perhaps in a spectacular explosion at a specific moment in history. God made everything to suit mankind and fine tuned the universe to suit us. In other words the universe exists because we exist. But that does not make any sense in the real world because they have it back to front. We are fine tuned to live in this universe; we developed according to pre-existing conditions. If the universe was structured differently we would have followed suite. So we are literally products of our environment and circumstances just like all other creatures on our planet. Our galaxy and solar system came first before life began and in the habitable zone capable of supporting life, life fine tuned itself to an existing environment. If our universe wasn't suitable to support life we wouldn't be here. 

Why if God created the vast universe and put us, the pinnacle of creation, into it is most of the universe hostile to life? If you scaled the entire universe down to the equivalent size of a house, then the tiny zone that supports life in our solar system is as small as a single proton. That means our solar system is invisible and completely insignificant to the rest of the universe. The closest star to our solar system is Proxima Centauri and you would have to travel at the speed of light for over four years to get there as it is 6,132,000,000,000 miles away. That’s our neighbour which is only 4.2 light years away. 

The region visible from Earth (the observable universe) is a sphere with a radius of about 46 billion light years. Our nearest sister galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy, is located roughly 2.5 million light years away. There are probably more than 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe.  A 2010 study by astronomers estimated that the observable universe contains 300 sextillion (3×1023) stars. 

Why all the wasted energy in creating a universe so immense? It has no design purposes what so ever?  Is God that dim-witted? This is not what we would expect if the universe was intelligently designed for us, but is exactly what you would expect if we are merely an accidental by-product of a purposeless and chaotic universe. The fact that something is complicated and awesome does not argue for it being intelligently designed for simplicity is a hallmark of good design. Some Christians told me when confronted with this argument “that God did it because he can” or “he wanted to have some fun”. What “kind” of answers are those? How about my favourite one "but that's just man's perspective". So the scientific challenges to their faith are not dealt with just brushed under the carpet. 

Religious people think God created the universe because there is no better explanation. Yet how do they link the “uncaused cause” (Creator) with teachings of Christianity: he is a triune God, he was incarnated, he made atonement, he was resurrected, he is coming back again etc.? How is it possible for a being to eternally exist as three "persons" (who always agree) without a body (and yet act in a material world) in a timeless existence (and yet create time); how is it possible for this being to be called a "person;" how is it possible for this being to think (thinking involves weighing alternatives), make choices, take risks, or even freely choose who he is and what his values are? 

You are reading this article via the internet on your computer or cell phone none of which would have been possible if it were not for the discoveries of science. Older people think it is a miracle, but the more enlightened know it is just little electrons running to and fro rather than magic or ESP.  So whether we admit it or not we put our trust and faith in science every day. Therefore it is just plain common sense and intellectual honesty; to be in favour of rather being influenced by, expert senior research scientist’s testimony and witness, accepted in any court in the land as “bona fida” legal evidence than by a pre-science superstitious Bible creation myth. 

So study for your self (See the references below) and don’t depend on theologians and there religious instruction as they don’t really know, even though they think they do. They will just tell you in the beginning God created….. and when you comment “what beginning” or “where is the evidence for instantaneous creation” or  “rather the evidence points to a slow galactic and biological evolution ” or you tell them that according to very clever physicists the universe was “all ways there” they tell you stop being soo clever, stop asking questions and just believe. 

We need to ask conservative Christians what has gone wrong with their brains if they can not understand that the evidence we find today does not point to an intelligent creator but to the universe becoming what it is today by the process of galactic evolution, abiogenesis and biological evolution . 

So here's a challenge to conservative Christians: How do you know you're right? You are left with the dilemma of rationalising why a God can be an "uncaused cause" while a universe cannot, all without resorting to special pleading. Good luck. 

To be contd -  Abiogenesis and biological evolution 

References :– “A Universe from Nothing: Why There is Something Rather than Nothing” By Lawrence M. Krauss, - “The God Problem: How A Godless Cosmos Creates” by Howard Bloom,  - "The Grand Design" by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow's,  - Why Does the World Exist?: An Existential Detective Story by Jim Holt,  - The Magic of Reality: How We Know What's Really True by Richard Dawkins, - Why Evolution Is True by Jerry A. Coyne, - The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution by Richard Dawkins, - Stephen Hawking "A Brief History of Time"- God and the Folly of Faith: The Incompatibility of Science and Religion by Victor J. Stenger, - Why is there something rather than nothing? By Victor J. Stenger,-   Origins, Abiogenesis and the Search for Life in the Universe by 40 top scientists,  - The Biological Big Bang. Panspermia and the Origins of Life, - "The Making of the Fittest" by Sean B. Carroll, -  "Relics of Eden" by Daniel Fairbanks, - “Your Inner Fish” by Neil Shubin.

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