In Response to Crracker
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Crracker - July 11, 2012 at 07:42
OK Frank. What do they say about the following? You can of course also assist.
Gladly. Where I can.
Craccker:
Jesus did not return as he said would, during the lifetime and generation of those around at the time he said the words. He was understood by the Jesus Cult at that time to mean exactly what he was reported to have said. No room for context reasoning to cover over the cracks.
Mark 13: 32
No one knows about the day or the hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. “Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come. It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.
Therefore keep watch because you don’t know when the owner of the house will come back-whether in the evening or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone. Watch!
Jesus stated above that only God knows when he will return.
Craccker:
In Revelation it is startlingly clearly stated that god disapproves of sexual encounters with women. You will not qualify as one of the 144,000 chosen if you have defiled yourself with women. Totally contrary to the command by god in Genesis to multiply and rule.
You read only a portion of Chapter 14 of Revelations. Please see below.
Revalations Ch 14: The Lamb and the 144’000.
Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144’000 who had his name and his Father’s name written oh their foreheads. And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144’000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb. No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless
The 144’000 mentioned are the purest of the pure. They did not defile themselves with women, and they did not lie. I am disqualified on both counts.
‘The lamb’ is Jesus, and ‘his father’s’ is God, The Great I Am
Revalations Ch 20:4
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)
Revalations Ch 20: 11
Then I saw a great whit e throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and the books were opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that wre in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were thrown in the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Above it is stated that there will come a time when all will be judged according to what they have done. If your name is not in ‘The Book of Life then you will end up in the lake of fire.
God is fair and forgiving. He will judge you according to your deeds. He offers the opportunity for repentance and forgiveness.
Nowhere does it state that only 144’000 will make it to heaven.
Crracker:
Was Eve actually the by-product of Adam’s rib? See the strange commands in the bible directed against women in the bible. Cut off the hand of a women who grabs her husband’s assailant between the legs! What! Women must keep quiet in church and rely on their husbands for knowledge and insight!
Was Eve actually the by-product of Adam’s rib?
Genesis 2: 21
So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping , he took one of the man’s ribs and closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
Genesis2:23
And Adam said, “This is now the bone of my bones, and the flesh of my flesh…”
John Courson (Application Commentary Old Testament) says the following:
“Bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh” is a Hebrew idiom meaning, “exact counterpart”.
See the strange commands in the bible directed against women in the bible.
There is no law that a woman must keep quiet in church. If you ventured into a church, you would notice that women are heavily involved in church activities. The church I belong to has a female pastor. More women attend church than men. Attend a church service and you will see this.
Kill a bird while holding it captive in a vessel held above a stream for its blood to treat skin problems and set a live bird on which some of the blood had been sprinkled, free. Ask your medical practitioner to prescribe you two birds for your pimple face and you are likely to receive a loud, vicious klap before you have a chance to take cover.
This was a religious ritual to cleanse a person of an infectious skin disease. The full account is in Leviticus 14. There were rituals for various infectious diseases as well as incurable diseases such as leprosy.
I am certain the Israelites also squeezed pimples without the help of a medical practitioner, or a religious cleansing ritual.
In Revelation we read of a coming war between angels in heaven. Weapons? Methods taking out the other side’s angels? How do you would wound or kill an angel? Medics available and how do they treat the wounded?
Revalations 12:7:
And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down-that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Choice of weapons? This is a battle between the legions of God and the devil. I don’t believe that their ‘to do’ list would contain a notation to inform you of weapons and tactics.
You lot a can lie!
I can’t answer that: it’s a statement, not a question.
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