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Barbie 'must do the time'

2010-03-02 11:30

Dear Editor,

I would like to have a look at the sentence of Cézanne Visser (aka Advocate Barbie). It is extremely shocking to see that a person could get off so lightly after everything she had done.

I am shocked to see how many people actually feel sorry for her and think that the sentence is too harsh. Wake up people - she had done the crime (more than once!), and she must do the time.

The reason I feel that her sentence is too light, is the fact that she is an informed and intelligent woman. She had enough knowledge of our legal system to know what she was doing, was a crime. Especially the fact that she got her LLB-degree Cum Laude, applies to this argument.

Furthermore, she has not once apologised to her victims, even though she admits what she did was wrong, but uses the excuse that she was under Dirk Prinsloo's "spell".

Don't get me wrong. I know that there are many women who are mistreated and abused by their partners, and in some circumstances this can definitely lead to them being unstable and unaware of what they do. But I still feel that a person with Cézanne's education and experience in the legal field cannot be intimidated to the point of "forgetting" their entire professional studies/knowledge.

Furthermore, some of the deeds she had done were done in Dirk Prinsloo's absence. How had he intimidated her to do these things if he wasn't even there to witness it? It sickens me to see that someone can get away with such a light sentence after all the pain she caused to all her victims, especially the children.

The irony of it all is, had she been a man, everyone would've been asking for the highest possible sentence, as is the case with Mr Dirk Prinsloo. They both deserve the same harsh punishment!

Nicci

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  • RUDOLF - 2010-03-02 11:39

    The punishment should fit the criminal as well as the crime, be fair to society and be blended with a measure of mercy. Not an exact quote but close. Apart from a few sensationalist stories in the media the facts are mostly unknown. A judge sat for days listening to all the facts and had the privilege of expert opinion from both sides to allow him to make up his mind. And primarily to get to balance all aspects for a fair sentence. And he is only a human being. Stop this nonsense of criticizing the sentence from an outside view. I have listened to many family members and friends who gives more emphasis to the mercy aspect and many victims and outsiders who over emphasizes the punishment aspect. Leave it be now.

  • Jan - 2010-03-02 11:40

    I agree Nicci. As much as I feel deperately sorry for her she must take responsibility for her actions. Something that, unfortunately, is not the order of the day in our contemporary society

  • Don - 2010-03-02 11:46

    She is a devious demented person, anyone no matter how much in a so called 'abusive' knows when you are doing wrong to a third party or parties i.e children in this case. She was aware of this and still continued, it is a disgrace she only got seven years, she needs to sit to the end of days for what she did to the innocence of the children which they can never get back!

  • Faahim - 2010-03-02 11:57

    I hope the favour is returned while she's in incarcerated. As for Dirk, he deserves a man's hiding.

  • FRANCOIS - 2010-03-02 12:10

    ag shame , i feel sorry for her. 7 years is long

  • ims - 2010-03-02 12:11

    the pure fact that she has not been remorseful at all and not had the decency to even apologise for what she did says it all! She was very much aware of what she was doing and purely using "the spell" as a scape goat! It is extremely wrong that she has not received a sentence in accordance with the crime!!
    I have absolutely no sympathy what so ever for her!!

  • SimonP - 2010-03-02 12:13

    Yes she should do the time. All criminals should do the sentence given including cadres. Maybe she can obtain a "terminal" illness and get out early.

  • sido - 2010-03-02 12:15

    What do you expect when the Prez gets off for rape and Malema is praised for milking the system?

  • Anonymous - 2010-03-02 12:23

    What exactly did this lady do? The courts should have been lenient on her , you should remember that she completed her degree in afrikaans and that on its own is a good reason not to really understand the application of the law. She did not kill anyone, there are murders and serial killers roaming the streets of SA, and you are worried about her?

  • @ Rudolph - 2010-03-02 12:25

    I wonder if you would have this "Stop this nonsense of criticizing the sentence from an outside view" view if it was a black person on trail and your kid was the victim. Hounestly, I don't think you would, and I think you know that. I hate the double standards of the people of this country. A crime is a crime is a crime, and she was not punished enough.

  • B - 2010-03-02 12:27

    I have to a agree 100%, she must pay. She might have only got seven years for what she done here, but I beleive she will be tortured by the thoughts and faces of those poor children she violated, as a matter of fact I hope that for the seven years she is behind bars thats all the occupies her mind. And then yes we all know she will answer one day.

  • Carrot - 2010-03-02 12:29

    What she did was horrific and she should be jailed for life. As said above, she is intelligent human and I am sure she would not do it again, BUT she needs to pay for her crimes. If she did this to my children, I would take matters into my own hands.Did you see the young girls or heard their stories? Know we only heard what she said. Not only was she suppose to protect those children from satan Dirk but she participated. As a woman, that is inhuman. She should be treated that way.!!

  • AJ - 2010-03-02 12:36

    The justice system has a problem viewing crying women objectively as per their crimes. If it was a man, he'd be sitting for plenty years more, and there'd be no comments to the effect 'oh he could not help it blah blah'. Just because someone wont do it again does not mean they are excused from serving time for what they have done.

  • MainSteyn - 2010-03-02 12:36

    Well at least her sentence will be a huge deterrent to anyone else thinking of abusing small defenceless children. Oh wait, no it isn't.

  • T - 2010-03-02 12:41

    A family member of mine got 15 years for stealing money. Moral of the story - rape and molest in SA, and get a light sentence. Commit white collar crime, steal money and get a hefty sentence. Crime, no matter what type is wrong. As they say, do the crime, do the time, but in SA, our judicial system is seriously screwed up. CV should have received a life sentence for each of the victims she abused/helped abused, because her victims will carry those scars with them for the rest of their lives! The bitch should burn.

  • Tsotsi - 2010-03-02 12:45

    Bollie man! She enjoyed having Dirk around. Hope she gets exposed to a Cezanne woman in jail. Vuilgoed!

  • JO - 2010-03-02 12:55

    I agree 100 %. This is a light sentance for such horrific crime. She is an intellegent woman and knows the laws of the country. She could have gone to the police and get body gaurds. She made bad choices and she has to pay.

  • Mr. Bean - 2010-03-02 12:55

    Please note that I do not condone AB actions!

    However, my sister was in a similar situation where her husband overruled her life and abused the situation to the extreme! His continuous threats on her life, the children's and her family took her beyond all means of reasonability.

    From an intelligent IT manager she turned into no self-esteem, criminal behaviour person over a period of time. Living in shacks and to “keep her man happy”. Standing on street corners begging for money to keep him continuously out of jail.

    Numerous calls and assistance from professionals and the family had no desired effect.

    He was fortunately killed some 20 years ago and she is now trying to put her life together again. Unfortunately, the scares are deep and I doubt whether time would heal.

    I will therefore refrain from my judgement on this subject.

  • Ben - 2010-03-02 12:58

    No, she has suffered enough

  • Maryna - 2010-03-02 13:05

    Deep in my heart I do feel sorry for her, but what she did is wrong. You do the crime, you do the time!!!! as simple as that!!!! I will never be able to understand the legal system, it sure as hell is not consequent with sentences. One gets a pat on the back and sympathy (like Barbie) and another (men who rape) get a life sentence or more than one life sentence. What is the difference, rape is rape, crime is crime. The legal system really is a big BS business.

  • @mr bean - 2010-03-02 13:15

    ok, so, did you sister physically abuse children? you don't mention that, this is the crime buddy!! I will sympathise with your sister to a degree, and she is fortunately not to be with that man any more, but sometimes you cannot always sympathise with someone who stays in an abusive relationship, been there got out and am grateful and a better person for it! I have friends in very similar situations, but they choose to stay so I don't give a lot of sympathy to them on that regard, but they do know that my door will always be open to them when they decide to leave!!

  • ZION PAY@authoress - 2010-03-02 13:19

    I( agree fully with your article yet wonder what would the sentence have been had it been a woman of a much lower educational level. What would you suggest as being a fair sentence for Cezanne and the other hyperthetical case.

  • Nine - 2010-03-02 13:22

    Untill it happens to you, don't be to critical or harsh. You have no idea what absolute hold manupilaters have over their victims. Everbody on the outside can not grasp why women don't leave their abusive husbands or perverted boyfriends etc. The mind force of the hold over the victim can not be fathomed by mere mortals living in their glass palaces. Her sentence was enough and living in jail day to day as a pedophile is going to hell for her. The butch lesbians are waiting for her and she will have to become a memeber of a gang for protection.

  • @ Mr Bean... - 2010-03-02 13:26

    u r really a comedian! The scars r deep bcos SHE ALLOWED IT. There r many ways 2 overcome this situation or just leave but no..."he's my man and I have 2 stick by his side" is what most of these "abused" woman cry. God gave all of us brains but do we use it but we cry foul when the law catches up with us.

  • johnsai - 2010-03-02 13:36

    Of course there two laws in this country. if it was Malema or some other darkie, they could have been sentenced so hard that they would only come out when the walls of the prison fall.

  • Mr. Bean - 2010-03-02 13:41

    On the first question, no she did not abuse her children or any others (which I am obviously aware of).

    Secondly, yes I agree, she allowed it.

    @ Nine - However, the comments from @ Nine are very true and valid. Unless you've been exposed to these circumstances, it is difficult to judge.

    Although I still stick with my opening comment, I do not condone what AB did.

  • ims - 2010-03-02 13:43

    excuse me - did anyone actually follow, she is on bail "granted bail pending the outcome of her application to the Supreme Court of Appeal for leave to appeal" go figure. So Nine, she is not living in jail to experience the day as a pedophile!!

  • Morgan - 2010-03-02 13:53

    @ Johnsai - Please explain this...
    1. Blue light cop smashes into parked car killing teenager instantly. His sentence 2 year suspended sentence
    2. Women gets raped by cops - Their sentence, no sentence as they have not been arrested
    3. JuJu receives R 140 Mil rands worth of tenders from ANC to build roads and bridges - Roads and bridges collapse 2 weeks after they were build - Sentence - promotion!!!!

    Get your facts straight!!!!!

  • arfie - 2010-03-02 13:59

    She should do her time quietly and in peace so she may reflect on her wrongs. What she did is socially totally UNACCEPTABLE. therefore she should be ostricized (i know wrong spelling!) by the people. You do wrong you get punished. It is so convenient to play the blame game when the other evil one is not here to tell his side of the story?!?!

  • Vrye Denker - 2010-03-02 14:02

    You're welcome to moan about the "light" sentence, but then you must agree to accept the same punishment you want to dish out if you ever find yourself at the mercy of the court. This even means that you should not ask for a discount or leniency when you receive something as minor as a speeding fine. You did the crime, so you should obviously pay the penalty, no extenuating circumstances, right?

  • James@Anonymous - 2010-03-02 14:10

    Dear Anonymous

    I think I might have misread your comment. You said "she completed her degree in afrikaans and that on its own is a good reason not to really understand the application of the law". What does studying in Afrikaans have to do with it? Afrikaans speakers are just as intelligent as English speakers. But if I look at your level of intelligence, I think even more intelligent. She is a disturbed person (irrespective of her langauge group) and should have been punished to the full extent of the Law.

  • fisher - 2010-03-02 14:39

    @johnsai - oh stop being so childish. This is not a race issue. This women broke the law and ruined the lives of innocent children, she should be severely punished. So stop obsessing about Fatboy Malema.

  • Faahim@Anonymous - 2010-03-02 15:19

    If thats the case, than let all the phidophiles and rapist's who cannot understand English be let loose. Crime does not have a language barrier you bloody idiot, what makes us human is free will and the ability to make the right choices or else we no diffirent from apes(No offense Julius).

  • Mtima - 2010-03-02 16:03

    She studied law to sum it up for you, she understand how one can be harsher but still get the lenientest sentence when taken to the court of laws irrespective of how, outsiders like me feel abt the sentence, she just used her knowledge to convince the people that matters most, the judge

  • Nine - 2010-03-02 16:34

    @ims, please read before replying and note the tense in which I refer the comments. I know she is not in yet.

  • Nine - 2010-03-02 16:37

    I just read about the Mxit pedophile thats out on R500 bail. I am shocked!! So where is his victims justice? He is white by the way for all the racists out there.

  • Whytemann - 2010-03-02 17:43

    C'mon people, most of the comments are purely judgmental and are rooted in emotion. Only if you attended all the hearings and analised the evidence would you be able to make a value judgement. Nicci, I doubt whether you attended any of the hearings at all, therefore you are not equipped with sufficient knowledge about this particular case to make the comments that you have. It is interesting to note that in the USA and, I think to a lesser extent Australia, it is a complete defence to plead and lead evidence as was done in the Cezanne Visser-case. It is high time that our law commission also undertake an in-depth study of this as I am of the opinion that it should be a complete defence in SA law as well.

  • Peter - 2010-03-02 20:07

    Just remember you will be judged as you judge others. No mercy!

  • Author - 2010-03-03 14:57

    Actually, most of what was written in the newspapers were true, because they could face legal action if they don't report the truth. I actually have a lot of legal experience including my masters and doctor's degrees. I want to accentuate that this is merely my opinion, and that I am not giving "judgment", but my opinion is also in part it based on previous judgments made by our courts in connection with these types of crimes. Both male and female perpetrators should be punished equally, especially if they are as educated and informed as Cèzanne and Dirk are.

    Furthermore, if you completed your degree in Afrikaans (which I did) or English (which I also had to use), you know the application and extent of the law.

    And yes, there are extenuating circumstances, but there are also aggravating circumstances, for example that they were both aware of what our law indicates. They were both consenting adults with enough knowledge of the law to know that what they were doing were against the law.

    In my opinion, she got off very lightly for a crime that was committed against CHILDREN, including child pornography. I can't help but wonder if she now regrets what she had done simply because she got caught...especially since she hasn't even apologised to any of their/her victims.

  • @Anonymous - 2010-03-03 15:01

    Whether you complete your degree in English, Afrikaans or whatever language you want, you study the entire course and therefore you still learn everything, no matter in what language it is...

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