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Facebook story 'irresponsible'

2011-08-29 08:20

Dear Editor

The Sunday Times newspaper’s decision to republish on the front page and online a photograph clearly staged to provoke racial unrest is exploitative, tasteless, morally reprehensible and incendiary.

Although it will no doubt hide behind high-minded principles of public disclosure, this decision was apparently taken with a view to selling more newspapers.

I cannot fathom how those involved can justify to themselves republishing the entire photograph. If they wish to identify the alleged perpetrator, they ought to publish his face, not the rifle and the corpse of the little boy.

This irresponsible action threatens to destabilise a society which already hangs in the balance. If this is journalism we’d be better off without journalists.
 
The journalist himself stated: “Child advocacy groups said the production and dissemination of the picture violated several laws, including the Children's Act, the Films and Publications Act and the Criminal Procedure Act.” And yet the Sunday Times has further disseminated the same picture. Blanking out the child’s face is hardly enough to overcome the presumption that the Sunday Times is now a party to the dissemination of hate speech.
 
The Sunday Times is doing the free press of this country a disservice. Parliamentary debate currently centres on the Government’s right to censor the media. This type of article can only provide ammunition to those who wish to enforce draconian press laws. I pray that the other publications in this country will demonstrate the responsibility and restraint that is the prerequisite for a free and independent media in our precious and fragile democracy.
 
Adv Zach Joubert
Member of the Cape Bar
High Court Chambers

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Comments
  • RL - 2011-08-29 08:30

    im not sure why you've set out your title and half your cv counsel,is this perhaps a bit of a plug or are you actually writing on behalf of the cape bar?

      McTility - 2011-08-29 08:40

      To us who studied a bit of philosophy he's committed a fallacy. Due to his position people might decide to side with his views, and that is so wrong. No disrespect for him just a view

      EarthBound - 2011-08-29 09:20

      I think its good that he stated his profession so it gives the average reader an idea of what their opinions are as well.

      Little Jim - 2011-08-29 10:17

      I fully agree with the writer of the article above. There was no need to show the entire photo other than to sell more newspapers. This is not what we need at this point in time in SA as this country is really on the verge of a civil war!!

      Neles - 2011-08-29 11:17

      Maybe he's looking for clients Neles Member of the News24 commenters association The Internet

      Happytoliveabroad - 2011-08-29 11:55

      I agree with the author, i used to work at a very "popular investigative rag" and used every ploy to gain copy sales. It was never as explosive as this, the Sunday Times has lowered its standard to that of a tabloid in the UK. Well done Mondli!!! But then again what can you expect from SA media these days. drivel to sell

      Joe_Public - 2011-08-29 12:24

      He put out his rank and CV because lawyers as with CA's have big egos. Without his title going before him he wouldn't feel as superior. Most probably the driver of a large car that is an extension as well. :-) I do, however, agree that they should only have published the person's face and not the whole photo. Just as the press typically only publish the photo of a murderer and not the crime scene. Of course it depends on how low the press stoop these days...

      Shadoz - 2011-08-29 12:51

      You know it never seems to amaze me how there are blatent outcries when white people are involved with any kind of racist attack. But let there be any black man who is involved ie: Kill the boer then it is a struggle. How do we know that this is not a black man that has started this FB page to take the attention off Malema? who the F knows. but i agree with RL it seems ADV Zach needs attention maybe he should just do his job correctly and keep the criminals behind bars.

      Shadoz - 2011-08-29 13:25

      yet the hawks have put together a team to investige but cant investigate malema because there are no funds. wahahaha banana.

      Nikelle - 2011-08-29 15:20

      @Joe_Public to when you study a min 7yrs to become something (lawyers , CAs , Doctors ect ) you earn a title that you are entitled to use .What's disturbing to me is that so many people seem to have more to say about this authors title then what he wrote about . I Agree they should not have published the whole picture .

      DanG - 2011-08-29 15:43

      Cheap sensationalism, in an effort to portray the whites as racist. WHY? because this story is from 2008.

      Chloe - 2011-08-29 16:29

      The thing is that journalists as we always knew them are now almost passe. Thus more and more one sees headings that really have little to do with a very thin story. AND, it seems that all over the world, it's fasionable to make the white man seem like the very devil himself. Try the same content with a black object all hell will break loose. What a shameful, disgusting world with evil people in high places.

      Megan - 2011-08-29 16:32

      Hey, someone who has studied and worked hard to achieve his goals/aims is more than entitled to present a letter with his full title. I would much rather pay attention to the person who isn't afraid of identifying himself when stating his views, unlike most of the hypocritical cowards who hide behind an alias.

      Atholl - 2011-08-29 17:42

      The Bill of Rights makes a clear distinction regarding freedom of speech and that is : NOT to advocated hatred that is based on race, ethnicity, gender or religion. An advocate knows that if, for instance a person is 'alleged' to have committed a 'crime', infringement, harm etc. then race, religion, gender ethnicity is of no importance. Dangerous conclusions have been drawn from photographs ..... it was concluded from photographs that Iraq have weapons of mass destruction (WMD) The problem with a digital photo is that it can be 'manipulated' ... a journalist should know this. What if a Turkish newspaper, on it's front page, instead of publishing a facial image of a 'suspected' person, published a man dressed in muslim attire standing, holding a woman in the wrestling 'shoulder-to-knee-drop' position with a large swastika imprinted on the woman's clothing ?

      zach.joubert - 2011-08-29 17:57

      RL, my position and "half my CV" as you so perceptively observe is the signature to all the emails I send from my work email address. The News24 website editor has lifted the details from there, perhaps because it makes my opinion sound more authoritative and more likely to attract derisive comments from the peanut gallery.

      Great White - 2011-08-29 18:15

      The Sunday Times used to be good newspaper many years back. It's just a rag now, like the Pretoria News. The biggest problem is that, for the most part, journos are pretty lowlife, along with the the other two members of the evil triumvirate; attornies and politicians.

  • Cowley - 2011-08-29 08:33

    I couldn't agree with you more. I don't even buy newspapers anymore. Really disgusting.

      kolobe - 2011-08-29 10:11

      didnt here any furor about the sowetan front page from you, your selective criticism is disturbing. this didnt come as a surprise to many blacks as it is what they experience most of the times

      kolobe - 2011-08-29 10:14

      it is even more disturbing that you are an adv

      Shadoz - 2011-08-30 15:55

      cry me a river kolobe what do you think is happening to white farmers. I guess we can start or own struggle now ey?

  • McTility - 2011-08-29 08:36

    Well if what had been published was just his face then it wouldn't have had the impact it had on the society as a whole. Racism is there and cannot be avoided. Not just whites to blacks to also blacks to whites. What we should be focusing on is not what we saw but the way forward. I think that picture was fair given that it had been uploaded in a data base that enabled the entire world to see. That guy uploaded it for everyone to see so Sunday Times was just a catalyst in that reaction!Well if what had been published was just his face then it wouldn't have had the impact it had on the society as a whole. Racism is there and cannot be avoided. Not just whites to blacks to also blacks to whites. What we should be focusing on is not what we saw but the way forward. I think that picture was fair given that it had been uploaded in a data base that enabled the entire world to see. That guy uploaded it for everyone to see so Sunday Times was just a catalyst in that reaction!

      Robbie - 2011-08-29 08:41

      The nespaper was digging up very old news and trying to make an issue out of something that happened in 2007 already. Shocking journalism... really pathetic. http://www.volksblad.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Jagfoto-maak-opnuut-opslae-20110828

      James - 2011-08-29 09:03

      Robbie!! ... I agree .... Old news ...... Are they running out of news to report?? .....

      Rajty - 2011-08-29 13:29

      I don't think so- if it was uploaded on a social network site then one must have known about it to access it. i didn't so I didn't see it. but i could see the front page of the newspaper regardless of whether I was intent on accessing the contents of the newspaper...this is perhaps another example of why the media can't be trusted to self-regulate themselves. All of this siad on the basis that the picture is not doctored.

      Johannes Viljoen - 2011-08-30 07:39

      Is murder or suspected murder ever old news? Maybe the learned author could a articulate a little more in a way that you might understand why this crime can never prescribe. The pic was fair as it drew the attention of the authorities to investigate this act.

  • Robbie - 2011-08-29 08:36

    Hear hear. I am a believer in freedom of speech and a free media but one should always exercise self restraint. This is one such case. In any case this is really old news as well... the picture has been around since 2008! Why only make an issue now? To sell newspapers of course!

      Die Bergie - 2011-08-29 09:05

      This picture has been around for a while, but it was previously removed after an investigation, and has now resurfaced. The Sunday Times just didn't know that it was the same pic as in 2007

      WHITE MAN - 2011-08-29 09:29

      propaganda!

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-08-29 13:23

      Bergie - you are so wrong. The picture was previously published by the Times (the online version of the Sunday times) when Ray Hartley was the editor of the Times. Now .. Ray @#$%@#$%^ Hartley is the current editor of the Sunday Times, so he can hardly claim he did not know it was old news. He published the damn thing himself in 2008. Don't believe me - read the Daily Maverick and see actual scans of the article. I deplore the original photo - it is beyond senseless and moronic and the person who did it got expelled from the University, but Hartley is a commercial and journalistic wh#re, will do anything for money. Sies!!!

  • Spitfire - 2011-08-29 08:40

    RL, look at the contents of the story. You are missing valuable information by focussing on everything but the story. Why? He is right. Take Sunday's Rapport and the Sunday Times's atricles on Julius Malema's support/lack thereof with his upcomming disciplinary hearing. Same facts at hand (hopefully) but the one says he is struggling (excuse the pun) for support from the senior members of the ANC, while Rapoort indicates that he has some serious senior members' support!! We as the public are confused and it is becoming more and more difficult to believe anything the papers write these days!!!

      RL - 2011-08-29 09:31

      he is right only in so far as it is his opinion and he has the right to express it. similar to my right to express my thoughts and you yours. if one were to follow the suggested logic should we not have condemned the publishing of the infamous "hector petersen" photograph and other similar violent and graphic photographs? or perhaps photographs of starving, malnourished children in somalia should never have seen the light of day?

  • Sechaba - 2011-08-29 08:43

    This is what the ANC has been crying foul about with the Media but most people thought ANC was trying to block corruption info.

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-29 08:45

    Another farmer will be murdered just because of this racist picture. Just publish the man's face.

      goodhope - 2011-08-29 10:26

      the guy should have also thought of the implications if he means well for SA unity and stability!

      Nkosi101 - 2011-08-29 11:06

      Why should he be protected dispite such disgusting actions. If it incites violence so be it. Maybe people need a reminder of how SA is really like and that its not all hunky dorie and people think it is!

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-29 11:38

      Look the photo hints at an act that is despicable. But why doesn't the newspapers publish the photos of that 3 year old white infant that was shot point blank range in the forehead - make that front page news. We need to be fair. I'm tired of black people screaming racism while black people rape their own babies - that isn't front page news material. This country is on the same road as Zimbabwe. I hope everyone attached to this newspaper will be happy making lots of money in such an environment. Like hyenas they are hunting for stories and want to coin every bit of sensationalism they can get. But as long as they can publish it - they fear the government and won't show black people in a bad light because that would offend the government of the day - the ANC.

      realvictim - 2011-08-29 12:45

      @Nas. some white dude complained that the UN should intervene in farm murderes, forgeting that he share ethnicity with idiots and ubber racists like yourself.

      schmerz - 2011-08-29 13:28

      @realvictim, yeah, you are a real victim. The whole world just shat on you and all you do is wait for a cosmic diaper to appear rather than wiping your face.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-29 13:50

      realvictim we can make a big issue at the UN and ALL embassies in the world. But we restrain ourselves. We want so badly that the New South Africa succeeds. You don't see us protesting. It pains me to see white people experience so much racism in South Africa each day and then to see them continue as if it is nothing. You just tried to brush aside the genocidal murder rate of farmers as if it is nothing and you get away with it. Because we share a race we can be treated like dirt. Murdered, raped our assets seized through various taxes and laws and we must just get with the program or else what? Genocide? If we resist we are branded as racists.

      Johannes Viljoen - 2011-08-30 07:44

      Nasdaq7 and how many babies did the victem of this crime kill? Jy is verkeerd in die sin dat hy nie die verkeerd hierin dien nie, maar dit prbr regverdig, ek wonder hoekom????

      Denise - 2011-08-31 04:01

      In their sensationalist haste to beat White South Africans with the racist stick, the Sunday Times ran a three year old story on their front page complete with the "Racist" epitaph. If it wasn't so pathetic it would be laughable. You can read this nonsense gutter journalism and see the obviously staged picture here... http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/08/28/wanted-facebook-racist

  • Utopian - 2011-08-29 08:55

    I completely disagree. The picture in its entirety was obtained from a Facebook profile that can be viewed by anyone and is therefore in the public domain. I think that it is time that we start naming and shaming these people. How narrow minded and obviously racist this person must be to post an image that will incite hatred an possibly violence in a racially polarized society. Most of us white africans are trying so hard to overcome the racial hurdle and right the wrongs of the past and then we have the few that bring the wall crumbling down because they are ignorant, brainwashed fools who don't care about how much blood has been shed already because of racist behavior.

      Proefleser - 2011-08-29 09:29

      Right Utopian, but how many people on Facebook actually saw it there? It may be public domain, but the public newsfeed where this might have been featured is only visible to FB friends and possibly their friends. So it remained fairly well within the bounds of a racist and his fellow-racists. To publish it in a newspaper is another issue entirely.

      ANONIMAHS - 2011-08-29 10:12

      we need more people like you in this Country!

      goodhope - 2011-08-29 10:30

      Proefleser, are u suggesting Times newspaper is also on his list of friends? if the newspaper could pick this out,definitely anybody could do it..this act must be condemned and not excused in any form.

      Proefleser - 2011-08-29 10:48

      goodhope, so far I haven't seen anybody condoning what is shown on the picture (which I hope is photoshopped). Whether the Sunday Times or its journos are friends of this racist sicko I wouldn't know, but somebody tipped them off and they ran with it.

  • Die Bergie - 2011-08-29 09:02

    They had to print the entire photo, to make people understand just how important it is to identify this guy.

  • Jillian - 2011-08-29 09:11

    Diversionary tactics. From Malema's rabble-rousing to the publication of this photo. I always say the only time the government is transparent, is when they are trying to hide something.

  • Newsferret - 2011-08-29 09:11

    I am in full agreement. The Sunday Times could have given the full photograph to the police instead and as said above only published the face.

  • nonduplume - 2011-08-29 09:21

    The recent spate of reports culminating in this shocking picture is a sad inditement of the gutter journalism that is becoming the norm for the Sunday Times. I ask myself what does it achive other than shock value and incitement to racial hatred. The ST should be taken to the cleaners for this callous reporting.

      v3 - 2011-08-29 13:10

      Like the "DA tender" b.s. Judging by it's bias, the ST is still trying to push Cope, I think. But the Sunday Times has gone downhill so far that no-one I know buys it anymore. This goes back to its firing of Bullard, ignoring the Harber et al report and rage at Majavu being dropped from the DA's mailing list. Ferial Haffajee seems to be carrying on Joel Mervis' tradition while he must be spinning in his grave.

      Denise - 2011-08-31 04:24

      @nonduplume - It’s just another decoy to distract us from the real issues. Nobody knows the game of falsifying pictures better than the media and the cops themselves. Right from the beginning the ANC used these “Smoke and mirrors” techniques. This technique of “deliberate confusion” was very effectively recreated during Apartheid riots as well. In order to understand the ANC strategy and techniques study the writings of Mao Tse Tung OR read Anthea Jeffrey's book 'People’s War' as used during the so-called struggle. Today we see how the ANC creates decoys, feint attacks in one place whilst attacking in another.

  • IDDQD - 2011-08-29 09:23

    Irresponsible journalism fanning the flames of a highly polarised situation. If one farm murder is committed with this shoddy piece of journalism at it's source, would the Sunday Times be held as an accessory to murder? Or worse, as the final deciding argument in the adoption of the Information Protection Act?

  • Jeanaly - 2011-08-29 09:32

    This story is not exclusive at all - and the photo not new at all. "details of the racist photo had also been published in 2008 by, of all people, The Times -- the Sunday Times' sister newspaper. At the time (7 October 2008) it described the photo as follows: "... a picture of a young white man holding a gun while standing over a young black boy lying on the ground". The editor of the Times at the time was (I kid you not) Ray Hartley -- now editor of the Sunday Times." http://dailymaverick.co.za/article/2011-08-28-exclusive-sunday-times-exclusive-isnt-exclusive

  • Nipcat - 2011-08-29 09:48

    It was obviously posted by someone who wanted five minutes of fame. Which he got because of all the gullible people out there, and I include journalists. I think the Sunday Times made a grave error in judgement running this story on its front page, if not at all.

  • Kuppy - 2011-08-29 09:49

    I've yet to see the Sunday Times put a picture of a black man who is wanted by the police for brutally killing a farmers whole family who raped his daughter then killed her and who hacked the granny and wife with a panger to death. + i believe this picture of the white hunter looks like a prank and the child is just having a sleep. The looks like a racist prank type picture.

      Poloyatonki - 2011-08-29 10:11

      I must admit that photo looks like they asked that kid to lie down and then they took a photo.

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-08-29 13:34

      @Polo - not only that boet, but the Sunday Times is cotching up old news for which the perp has already been expelled from his university. Read Jeanaly's link above for the full horrible story about how Ray Hartley thinks we are all stupid. We all have the right to feel insulted, not just about the photo, which appalls me, but about he thinks that by being a media wh#re he can shake money from our pockets. It was an abomination in 2008, it is the same thing now for different reasons.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-08-29 09:51

    I was appalled at the photograph in question. Obviously the publishing of the photo with the article was meant to cause fall-out. However, a really stupid person came up with the photo to start off with. He should still be named and shamed. To not find the photo highly offensive is inhumane. To not comment against it in revulsion is also wrong. After all, this is press freedom. To not allow this is denying press freedom. One has to take the good with the bad. As readers we have every right to speak out if we feel the article was meant to arouse.

  • FartaWorks - 2011-08-29 09:54

    Gutter journalism at its very best.

  • richie.boxall - 2011-08-29 09:56

    If you support a NON RACIAL South Africa show your defiance to propaganda and socialistic manipulation to sell newspapers... BOYCOTT the SUNDAY TIMES buy NOT ADVERTISING or BUYING the paper and repost and share to all your friends. SHAME ON YOU SUNDAY TIMES

  • x - 2011-08-29 10:03

    Oh please this is a rehashed 2007 photo that is most likely faked.

  • W Wallace - 2011-08-29 10:19

    How do you know someone is an advocate? He tells you...

  • Ian - 2011-08-29 10:32

    I had not seen or heard of this till now. Seen the pic via a link from this page. Massively upsetting/disturbing even if it just posed. There should be no tolerance for this type of racist behavior. As for the Sunday times - disgraceful!!

  • Papsak - 2011-08-29 10:39

    @Kolobe, I fully agree with you my dear dirty friend. It's fine when the press digs out out as long as it doesn't involve whiteys. Now they are blaming the Sunday Times and questioning its journalistic integrity. Talk of screwed-up way of looking at things!

  • Papsak - 2011-08-29 10:40

    Robie, it doesn't matter how old the story is.

      x - 2011-08-29 12:34

      Yes lets all be hysterical again. In in 2016 we can do the same again; like in 2007. And maybe for good measure we can do it AGAIN in 2020?

  • chris.kleynhans - 2011-08-29 10:45

    I was thinking exactly the same thing Adv Joubert. They obviously did the same thing they were supposedly fighting..I talked about this on my Facebook page but where I would normally provide a link I avoided it because I realized that I may become a guilty party as well....What bothers me is that this is so well synchronized with the coming Malema ANCYL disciplinary hearing, almost as to detract from the issues at hand and to give a reason why the YL is behaving like this...Later comments that this photo has been around since 2008 further strengthens this argument....But all in all, the impact of that photo is enormous, it is like a cyberbomb on the minds of the people....May justice comes to the guilty ones but if the publishing of this sparks a revolution then let it be known that this newspaper played a direct role in it...Won't be the first time that something like this has caused the suffering of more innocent people....

  • greg mun - 2011-08-29 10:47

    The article might have been published before but it doesn't make it any less hurtful. Why wasn't the Facebook account closed? It's like asking people to stop talking about apartheid atrocities because there was TRC.

      unwanted - 2011-08-29 19:47

      well, Greg, Robert Mc.Bride sued one of the papers for calling him a murderer after he went to the TRC. Same thing. People can discuss things yes, but to keep dragging it through the papers continuously doesnt help. Especially as a front page story. I do however, agree with you that the account should have been closed.

  • AZB - 2011-08-29 10:53

    The people/person who put the picture together is/are sick and needs some counciling, and probably a jail sentence. To Sunday Times, this is a case of either bad judgement or deliberate sabotage (and another poster mentioned its the same editor who posted it in 2008?) The newspapers (all of them) are shootinh themselves in the foot; if press freedom is taken away it will be their own fault and we the citizens will be worse off. Thanks to all the dumbass editors in SA. I stopped buying sunday papers (english and afrikaans) a long time ago. I don;t need my Sunday spoiled by all the crap they publish.

  • Blackbeard - 2011-08-29 11:16

    Will the Sunday Times also please publish the killed farmers' photos, preferably with the perpetrators who committed the crime?

      Neles - 2011-08-29 11:21

      I agree.

      myoomsemotor - 2011-08-29 11:24

      please be realisitic and stick to the subject.....

  • Tebogo - 2011-08-29 11:26

    Our journalists are out of hand, all in the name of public interest. The truth is that its all in the name of the numbers they sell. I believe the general public is tired of the nonsense that we see and read regularly. We need something constructive and not as provocative as this picture and the Sowetan sex picture. Grow up journos, we beg you for mature journalism.

  • RL - 2011-08-29 11:32

    he is right only in so far as it is his opinion and he has the right to express it. similar to my right to express my thoughts and you yours. if one were to follow the suggested logic should we not have condemned the publishing of the infamous "hector petersen" photograph and other similar violent and graphic photographs? or perhaps photographs of starving, malnourished children in somalia should never have seen the light of day? @neles ha ha

  • jakes123 - 2011-08-29 11:46

    Sorry to say but you all miss the point of the article in the Sunday Times, this was done to take the attention of Malema and to show how bad white people really are,i will bet the person in the photo will never be found this is typical propaganda from the Sunday Times, please tell them we are not stupid.

  • Ang - 2011-08-29 12:17

    There are so many comments about race here, but this should not be about race, this is a picture of a man leaning over what looks like the dead body of a child?!?!?! Does nobody see this, Is everybody just concerned about the race of the child and the person standing over the child, it is sick sick sick no matter what colour the people are and this man should be done for promoting child abuse, what kind of sick disturbed people find this entertaining? SICK SICK SICK!!!!

  • chresos - 2011-08-29 12:17

    ITS JUST A PICTURE MAYBE ITS NOT EVEN GENUINE, WHAT ALL HE FUSS ABOUT? ITS NOT LIKE THAT REALLY HAPENS HERE IN SA, PRAISE GOD!

  • jakes123 - 2011-08-29 12:23

    who said the photo was taken on the African continent have you ever heard of photo fixing yes take the attention of, Malema you brainless youth league supporters will soon learn if you screw with Botswana you screw with America. Readers from news24 must help to get an e mail address from someone in the white house and we will forward all this information to them

  • tut - 2011-08-29 12:48

    Not as deplorable as the picture itself! No wonder we have retribution of farm killings when there are still whites in South Africa who portray themselves as National party NAZI's. As a white person, I hang my head in shame! Find this rifle wielding fool and make him an inmate trophy!

      Moi1980 - 2011-08-29 13:59

      "No wonder we have retribution of farm killings when there are still whites in South Africa who portray themselves as National party NAZI's" That statement almost seems as if you are excusing farm murders because of the actions of a few brain dead morons. Of course the picture is wrong and whether or not it's a fixed photo, if you are pathetic enough to use such a disgusting photo as your profile picture, you should face the consequences. There's still no excuse of rational reasoning for all of the brutal farm murders.

  • Hunter 008 - 2011-08-29 12:51

    I stopped buying the Sunday times years ago, due to articles like this !! The article was Racist !! Who says it was not staged !! Sunday times...get your facts first !!!

  • fiona.viglietti - 2011-08-29 13:37

    I must say - I wholeheartedly agree to this! If they - the journalists - had not got to the bottom of the story as yet, why publish such an inhumane racist artile - especially not in South Africa where we all despise anything racist !!!

  • Spookhuis - 2011-08-29 13:41

    It's like I tell my kids..... "You want your freedom, but can you handle the responsibly of freedom...."

  • Jawellnofine - 2011-08-29 13:48

    Damn straight. Sundy Times looking to sell newspapers is all it was. The editor also stated that most of SA would be shocked and that it was a small minority who would support those views. So why publish. Fire him I say!!!

  • Greg Bunyard - 2011-08-29 13:49

    that will be the last Sunday Times I buy. I hope many more protest their drivel.

  • Pragmatist - 2011-08-29 13:50

    Well I don't expect anything else from Sunday Times - always been a trashy and expensive paper...

  • smahlaba - 2011-08-29 13:52

    The picture in the newspaper just highlights the problem we still have in SA. I like what the Sunday Times has done because I hadn't seen the picture before.

      Al - 2011-08-29 19:36

      Yea, like the three year old white child that was shot at point blank in the head or the baby who's head was bashed against a wall... Remember? Sorry Smahlaba but today it is the blacks who are racists. Do you know of any other country where their leader sings revolutionary songs urging the murder of minorities? What must I tell my daughters when she hear these songs?

      unwanted - 2011-08-29 19:49

      Sorry but they dont care about that 3 year old Al, after all it should be driven into the sea anyway.

  • Xram62 - 2011-08-29 13:54

    Singing "Kill the famer, Kill the Boer" is just as irresponsible!!!

  • bobbi.za - 2011-08-29 13:57

    the difference between the suspected Black racism and actual White racism is that Black do not view Whites as game... this is not an isolated incident

  • Jimm636 - 2011-08-29 14:15

    If this happened to be the first time that this photo had surfaced, who is to say that it was even taken in this country. We automatically assume it is because of colour. Anybody can post any picture of anything/anybody/any crime that they want to and claim it is theirs. Who says the Facebook profile is even of a South African? There are people out there who just want to get a reaction, newspapers too. Any it sure seems like they got one.

  • Christopher - 2011-08-29 14:27

    Anyway the little boy got paid to do it.

  • recepto - 2011-08-29 14:41

    Stopped buying the Sunday Times years ago. Why waste money on crap...

  • youcantrunyoucanthide - 2011-08-29 14:42

    OK, McTility. What was the fallacy that he committed?

  • Greg - 2011-08-29 14:47

    What is there to hide? This picture tells a disturbing yet honest story. Do you want this sort of thing hidden? Real transformation in our country begins with acknowledging the truth and that truth can only be discerned in the light of the Word of God, alive and present in all our hearts, cultures, tribes and languages.

      BloodRiver - 2011-08-29 15:06

      A photo-shopped picture tells an honest story? No idiot, 3000 farm murders while the ANC sings shoot the boer is the honest story.

  • Grant Hide - 2011-08-29 15:30

    Agreed the photo is bad for everyone. How does this help our brothers and sisters that are Green yellow purple unite? I think the sunday times just provided (u know who) with more carpet. I mean this carpet is so huge we will need bailout too.