'Lunatics on the road'

2011-09-28 18:00

Dear Editor,

The people who cause the accidents will not drive at 120km/h let alone 100km/h.

On the road from Knysna to Plett the speed limit is 80-100km/h and only one lane so you get the lunatics that drive up behind you at way over the speed limit until they force you into the yellow line.

These are the people they need to stop as they cause accidents and will never drive at the speed limit so at least give the rest of us a chance to do a reasonable speed limit so they don’t keep driving up our behinds and forcing us to do stupid things and cause accidents as you have nowhere to go.

Arrest all the idiots who do the stupid things instead of making it even more difficult for the law abiding citizens.

I do, however, believe in the law for new licence owners. It works overseas and sure it would work here.

After all it is the youngsters who love to speed and this would put them off as well as drinking too much.

I think it would be a great relief to all parents of young new drivers as well as all new licence holders.

Linda Page

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  • 1eye - 2011-09-28 18:34

    You should not be forced into the yellow line. Its a choice you make regarding a fellow driver that is driving faster than you, pull over and let them pass. I do 100,000 kms a year across Southern Africa everyday I see drivers that should not be driving, forget alcohol they should simple not be on the road.Just go to your local supermarket and watch people trying to park, It's got ZERO to do with speed, its about CAN YOU DRIVE A head on at 100km or 160km it's just happens quicker and the corpses a bit more mangled!!End result is the same FYI "Oversea's they also travel at plus 200km per hr

      Almaki - 2011-09-29 09:54

      @Sheda Hab: Hon, I've driven the Knysna road she speaks of. It's narrow and twisty, and yes, the speed limit varies between 80 and 100km/h. The issue on that road is the brainless loobies in Citi Golf's who think it's a racecourse and attempt to drive the whole thing at 140km/h. There is no way on earth that should be tolerated. That being said, it really is more an issue of driving ability than speed. If you're a crap driver, it doesn't matter if you're doing 60 or 160, you'll still be a danger to other road users.

  • Nicol - 2011-09-28 18:40

    You cause the accidents, you're forcing the person to pass you in dangerous situations because you don't want to edge slightly to the side. If slow drivers were more considerate and would adhere to the keep left pass right rule of driving, there would be a lot less accidents.

      Rainbow1 - 2011-09-28 19:30

      There is no rule that says one should move into the yellow line section. This is an emergency lane. This has nothing to do with "keep left pass right". That apply to multi-lane highways.

      Cina - 2011-09-29 11:14

      Sorry I will not move over if I can't see what is in front of me. No matter what and if you flick at me, then you can forget it I will not move over even if it is save to do so. Learn how to be patient I get to my destination perhaps a little later but at least I'll be alive.

      Wollie - 2011-09-29 13:47

      the one reason I always give way to faster traffic is: On a trip up to GP some years back I had a german sedan om my bumper, even though I was doing 130ks at the time passing 4 trucks in the slow lane. Put on my indicator to show that I saw them and will move over as soon as its safe. After I moved over, a blue light suffenly appeared on the roof of the car and my driver side mirror was shot out. At least I hope they were aiming for my mirror! Think about which country your driving in before doing something stupid

  • eloffjnr - 2011-09-28 18:59

    There is a fine line between speeding and making use of the grace margin of error allocated to the speed limit. You can actually go 3 or 4 km/h faster before you get fined! It is these drivers who clinically stick to the speed limit and can't improvise in the spirit of progress who actually hog the roads - who force other drivers to take chances just to get somewhere in life! Don't think because the speed limit is 120km/h on most National highways that it is your explicit right to drive no faster than 120 on the highway. Common sense should tell you that you will become a victim of some self-inflicted confrontation! It is people like this author who does not comprehend the general rule of the road. Keep left and pass right! That is the golden rule! If someone is faster than you behind you and there are no cars in front of you then you better move over because some people actually have some direction in life and don't treat their cars like the living room sofa. Some people are so engaged in socializing in the car that they almost forget that they are driving!! I have seen a woman drive straight into another car's backside at very slow speed simply because she thought driving in the car was a lovely past-time! Get a life - or at least move over and give others a chance to get to their destinations so they can carry on with theirs!

      Viparo - 2011-09-28 19:31

      Agreed, but actually, it's 9 km/h grace over the limit

      rumsour - 2011-09-28 20:35

      So it is the fault of people who obey the law that you are a criminal?

      Almaki - 2011-09-29 09:58

      What about situations where you cannot move to another lane because of congestion? Does that then give me the right to drive like a twit, right on another car's bumper, simply because I want to go faster and he is unable to get out of my way?

  • BakkieB - 2011-09-28 19:10

    The issue I have with speed is it is none of your business how fast I am driving. If you in the right hand lane............MOVE OVER. So what if you are doing the "speed limit" As far as licences are concerned I agree with the author. Problem is, 50% of drivers on the road don't even have a licence. R100 "cold drink or lunch" and off they go. How about making insurance compulsary like the rest of the civilised world?

      BakkieB - 2011-09-28 20:26

      Why the thumbs down. Oh I suppose it is the cellphone chatters, the coffee drinkers, make up appliers etc, who sit in the fast lane who don't approve of being flashed

      zaatheist - 2011-09-29 04:12

      Of course everyone should move over. But sorry poephol, I am concerned about the speed you are driving at as you are making the road unsafe for other users by driving like an idiot. Anyone caught doing 130 or more should automatically have the licence cancelled and be required to re-do the test from a learner;s licence. Do it again and you should be banned from driving for life.

      Powerman - 2011-09-29 08:29

      If you are doing more than 120 in the fast lane and I am doing exactly 120, then sorry for you BakkieB, you can go around me!

      kenneth.roselt - 2011-09-29 09:48

      I drive an Audi A4, and also a Polo (which is my everyday car), and i cruise at about 130-140KM/hr, most of the time, people do move over, but you do get the person who will not move over, and i simply pass on the left if clear, what however does annoy me is the person who wouldn't move over speeds up when you change lanes to pass. That is when i show them true power (especaily when in the Audi) and leave them way behind. The problem is that South Africans have NO respect for fellow road users, just look at how many people (black/white/coloured/indian etc) go through red lights, long after the robot went red, and then give you the finger when you hoot / flash them, some of them actually get quite aggressive. Companies don't car either, and when their drivers hit your car (from driving in the parallel parkings) you get letters from their lawyers demanding payment for damages to their vehicle, and they go as far as tyelling you "Police reports are irrelevant" (where their driver signed admission of guilt) - i know this as it has happened to me with a National Brands Ltd truck, and their insurer, Alexander Forbes... Everyone needs to adjust their attitudes on the roads, and the Police need to stop hiding behind bushes and enforce the laws thet are mandated to, not just speeding, after all a camera might get me 11KM over the limit, but not the taxi / drunk that is 1KM under it.

  • Radiobeheer - 2011-09-28 19:43

    I totally agree, people driving at 80 and slow vehicles are ones causing the accidents the speed of the other vehicles make the consequences worst but the accident are not caused by the 100KMh or 120KMh vehicles but by the idiots driving slowly because they can't drive...

  • nicn44 - 2011-09-28 19:44

    I'm amazed at some of the responses, linda Page states it is an 80 zone on a single lane.Why must she move over? unless of course she is pottering along at 60. She is legally correct.linda just turn your mirror down then you wont see these pricks.

      Rainbow1 - 2011-09-28 19:54

      Agreed. I think it is generally dangerous to move into the yellow line given the number of pedestrians, cyclists, animals etc in this lane. I refuse to do so. To me the issue is the aggressive, inconsiderate nature of SA drivers.

      LostEuropean - 2011-09-28 21:26

      Wow, I can't believe you just said that! First, read BakkieB's post further down, which says that pulling over into the emergency lane to let someone past is perfectly legal. So not only does Miss Daisy hold up traffic (which creates a dangerous situation), but you want her to turn her mirrors down? Your mirrors are an extremely important tool in the practice of defensive and safe driving. I say practice, but, to some, it seems more like an art, one that they haven't got any talent for. I check my mirrors constantly (it's become second nature), and I'm always aware of where vehicles close to me are. Thanks to my father who taught me that :-) But to get back to your STUPID suggestion: don't be putting such nonsense out there, please.

  • Raymond - 2011-09-28 20:03

    @1eye-ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.I agree with you.It is speed alone,ninety percent of accidents is caused through negligence.There are lunatics on the road,I see it every day.Driving through red robots is really worrying and tail-gateing.Reckless driving and plain stupidy is the cause of most accidents.An accident is something that is not planned,it is unforseen.When someone deliberately drives through a red robot and collides with another vehicle,how can this be classified as an accident.

  • MKAM - 2011-09-28 20:05

    Speed is no issue here, slow drivers sometimes causes accidents. Just because they feel like being stubbon and cannot open way way for the guy coming at high speed. They end up being bumped at the back. I think if you know you're a slow driver or maybe you're just not in rush, do a decent thing and keep to the left. Then when you feel like driving you can then go to the right.

  • Stileen - 2011-09-28 20:14

    The old NAT government, banned pornography, which did not work. Legislation only helps with law abiding citizens. Make the speed limit what you desire, there will always be those that do not comply!

  • BakkieB - 2011-09-28 20:22

    By the way. It is legal to move into the yellow line to allow another vehicle to pass and then move back. Go read the traffic ordinance. Same as lane splitting by motorbikes. Perfectly legal, dangerous because of drivers not watching around them, but legal.

  • Bewildered - 2011-09-28 20:43

    Don't change the laws - enforce them!!! There is not a day that goes by that I don't see something on the road that makes my mouth hang open. Sometimes these transgressions are in full sight of a policecar, sometimes (more often than not) its the policecar itself!! Lead by example, phmfff

      BakkieB - 2011-09-28 21:03

      Exactly. Who is scared of the police? Anyone? No? There is no respect for them because of the corruption stigma.

  • Jackool - 2011-09-28 21:11

    The government in SA should stop fixing the pot holes. The more potholes, the safer the roads. If there are loads of potholes everywhere, nobody will be able to drive fast enough to kill anyone. Even a drunk guy, or gal, would have difficulty making a fatal accident, unless he drives off the Drakensberg or something. No more crazy driving maniac taxies, beemers, vw's or any other idiotic reckless driver. Lives will be saved, the council will save money on all those cumbersome repairs and the garage/mechanic industry will enjoy a remarkable boom in business.

      Jackool - 2011-09-28 21:15

      Also let more cows, sheep, chickens and children play on the roads to make them drive even better.

  • Sheda Hab - 2011-09-28 21:17

    "The people who cause the accidents will not drive at 120km/h let alone 100km/h." THAT OPENING STATEMENT SHOWS THAT IT WAS WRITTEN BY A TOTAL IGNORAMUS WHO HAS NO IDEA AS TO THE CAUSE OF ACCIDENTS ON SA ROADS. The article is typical of a "road rage" knee jerk reaction to the belief that every OTHER driver is in the wrong.

      Liz - 2011-09-29 08:42

      Sheda, you tell us what causes accidents on the roads please?

  • SNOTKOP - 2011-09-28 23:38

    Linda, you and your kind are the problem on the roads today, if a driver is moving faster than you and you are able to move over in the yellow lane in a safe manner, why not do so? People with your attitude cause accidents. What really pisses me off is people on the freeway driving slow on the freeways, especially whilst in the right hand lane. It`s as if they just simply dont give a about the cars behind them. The other thing that really gets to me is these "common" Danville idiots with an IQ of 3, who drive with their rear foglamps on when there is no fog around, I think, they think, it looks cool or something. When i get these people in front of me I simply switch my headlights to bright.

      Liz - 2011-09-29 08:40

      Snotkop, I think your name suits you, and that explains your comment. You still have a lot to learn.

  • Nicol - 2011-09-29 00:15

    "These bloody women drivers!"... " are a pleasure to have on the road"

      Bewildered - 2011-09-29 17:01

      Ha!! I always say, if a man drives badly, its because he is a man - if a woman drives badly, its because a man taught her

  • 1eye - 2011-09-29 06:29

    @Linda Page BIO-STATS How far out am I Single, plus 50, Urban raised,,got your licence late.i.e.long after you turned 18, retired or semi and Blonde driving a Merc went to Pvt School ???7/10 I predict within the next 5 years texting will overtake at speed, alcohol as our number one killer

  • Morarius - 2011-09-29 07:23

    Illegal overtaking is our biggest problem. It happens way to often that you drive over a hill and there is some D##s overtaking on a double white line and you have to make way. People doing dumb things like this kills. How often do we hear about head on collisions these days?

      semaj - 2011-09-29 08:41

      Ah, but that could be avoided, if both cars were doing only 60km/h. If however people are driving within limits, with full cognizance of road rules, head on collisions would be impossible except by real accident such as tyre blowout. Any other cause is tantamount to manslaughter.

  • oistar - 2011-09-29 08:21

    Yes, and I don't think two glasses of wine has ever killed anybody either.

  • Liz - 2011-09-29 08:32

    I don't think decreasing speed limits will put an end to the reckless driving on our roads. Sometimes when I see some of these guys speeding like maniacs, and driving recklessly, I think to myself, YOU HAVE NO SELF RESPECT and no RESPECT for others. Don't they realize, they are putting other peoples lives in danger because of their foolish actions? I also wonder where and how they got their licences?? REMEMBER, SPEED KILLS! Then it is too late to rectify or say Im sorry.

  • Johan - 2011-09-29 09:11

    Wow. Looking at the comments makes me realise how much South African drivers have lost the plot making up their own rules as they go along. Road rules are there to obey by everyone. You don't get to ignore them or be exempt from them because you supposedly drive better than others, have a faster car, are in a hurry or have more direction in life. And now because everybody disregards the rules that suddenly makes the few folks trying to do the right thing by sticking to speed limits the bad guys that cause accidents. WTF?! If everybody stuck to the rules, drove to the speed limit and didn't act like complete a-holes thinking they own the road the whole system will work better. And no, keep left pass right does not mean a slow driver must yield to a speedster - it simply means when there are two lanes you cruise in the left and if you come across a car driving below the speed limit you pass on the right. This moving into the yellow lane thing does not get done anywhere other than SA, and is not an actual road rule. Clueless.

  • Gyro - 2011-09-29 10:24

    Its not speed that kills, I drove at speed over the limit hit two concrete blocks in the road. I was doing about 100-110 in a 80 zone when this happened, I was not wearing my seatbelt. I smashed the windshield with my head. Had no broken bones, no whiplash, just a couple of cuts on my forehead. My car was totaled ... so how does speed kill if I survived something like that. I was driving a 1300 Mazda Midge, that has almost no safety features. Oh and your Audi Merc BMW Volvo .. whatever it is ... that airbag of yours can be fatal aswell ...

      Liz - 2011-09-29 10:41

      Gyro, Maybe its called a second chance?

      Gyro - 2011-09-29 11:21

      What you don't get is that a person driving at high speed is not being reckless ... the person doing 80 in the fast not giving way ... not he's supposed to be there ... is the reckless one. It is the person driving 40km/h under the speed limit that is the danger ... so reduce the speed and he/she will be doing 60 in a 100 zone .... and that still makes the slower driver the danger. And yes perhaps it was a second chance ... fact is that speed is not the issue. Since that accident I have completed 2 advanced driving courses ... so I know what a car can and cannot do at high speed. Perhaps all these nuts with BMW's Audi's and so one should be forced to do it. Perhaps everybody should be forced to redo their license ... bet you not even 30% would pass.

  • Linds - 2011-09-29 11:47

    People are talking a lot of nonsense here. The truth is there’ll always be hazards on the road and it's easy to avoid them if you keep to the speed limit, take note of warning signs and obey all other rules. Our helper’s son was killed by a speeding lunatic on the R55 (along Olievenhoutbosch) driving 120k in a 60km zone. Another fool was driving behind me in the bad R512 road and it was raining cats and dogs. I consistently drove 10k below the speed limit, mindful of the bad weather and ignored all his flashing, hooting and other kinds of abuse. As we were driving downhill and approaching a low lying bridge, I reduced my speed considerable and he got a chance to overtake. As he hit the bridge at high speed, the water just lifted his car and pushed it over the bridge. I didn’t even stop because he had been abusing me the whole time. I arrived home safely. I have avoided so many accidents by obeying the speed limit, and I have driven considerable while I was consulting in Gauteng, North West, Limpopo and Mpumalanga for 5 years (doing an average of 8000km per month).

      Gyro - 2011-09-29 14:24

      And in not stopping and/or calling emergency services you could have killed him ... very well done. BRAVO!!!

      Linds - 2011-09-30 14:28

      No, the guy was suicidal anyway. How could you drive like that in bad road and weather conditions?

  • nataschja.ferreira - 2011-09-29 12:15

    Seems you all miss the point - obeying the law is the issue. If the speed limit is 120 then thats it. If we obeyed the law, stopped trying to get some place faster and were more tolerant, less aggressive we would be making progress. How many times have I seen people with kids standing on front seat of car, overtaking on solid white lines on a blind rise - wow you must all think you have super powers. People obey the law. Speed is fine if we all obey the law and follow the rules.

  • Eyes Ears - 2011-09-29 12:43

    Don't want to be funny but for all the guys and girls that like to "lick" the person in front of you's "ass" by speeding, 1) get a life 2) I'm not gay and therefor do not appreciate the "licking" (sitting on my car's behind) 3) Keep your distance until such time that the person in front of you, can move over to another lane. 4) Learn how to be patient! It will help alot and also avoid certain accidents caused, due to impatience. 5) Big boys and girls with 1400 engines and +, stop pushing cars that has an 800 motor engines -, into forcing them out of the way. Really you are nog impressing anyone and it really shows how little your IQ is for comparing your vehicle with one much smaller.

      jean.dutoit - 2011-09-29 15:00

      Then don't drive 80 km/h in the right hand lane, on the highway. Unless you're in Cape Town, where that is actually the speed limit on some of the highways.

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