They call me Mr. Knowitall
I will not compromise.
I will not be told what to do.
I shall not step aside.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I have no time to waste.
My mouth it spews pure intellect.
And I've such elegant taste.
They call me Mr. Knowitall.
I sup the aged wine.
Oh I could tell such wondrous tales
if I should find the time.
I must be Mr. Knowitall
For ideas they come in bounds.
I am Mr. Knowitall
So spread the word around.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I am so eloquent.
Perfection is my middle name
And whatever rhymes with eloquent.
Mr. Knowitall by Primus
There are many, many people on this forum to whom this title could be appended. One knows more about English then the compilers of the Oxford English Dictionary, another know more about the Bible than all the theologians lumped together and yet others know more about history and archaeology than those working in the field. The array of knowledge presented on this forum on a daily basis never ceases to astound me, so much so that I’m tempted to turn tail and flee, with said tail (allegorical) between my legs.
So I’m going to do something I’m sure will please them: after all, they are always asking for references, so I’m going to supply them. Gee, isn’t that thoughtful of me?
Hitler was a Christian, and according to Sam Harris. ‘…Auschwitz was a logical and inevitable consequence of the Christian faith.’ (Sam Harris, The End of Faith, 104)
Robert Wistrich, the professor of modern Jewish history at Hebrew University, has no such qualms. In Hitler and the Holocaust, Wistrich writes:
Indeed, the leading Nazis—Hitler, Himmler, Rosenberg, Goebbels, and Bormann—were all fanatically anti-Christian, though this was partly hidden from the German public. . . . The conviction that Judaism, Christianity and Bolshevism represented one single pathological phenomenon of decadence became a veritable leitmotif for Hitler around the time that the “Final Solution” had been conceived of as an operational plan. (Wistrich, Robert S. Hitler and the Holocaust. New York: Modern Library, 2001. 131–132.)
But the most convincing proof that Hitler was neither an atheist nor a Christian can be seen in two documents that the various New Atheists and Wistrich were probably not aware of at the time they
wrote their books. The first of these was prepared by the Office of Strategic Services in preparation for the Nuremburg trials in 1945. Released to the public in 2001, the report from the archives of Gen. William J. Donovan, special assistant to the U.S. chief of counsel at the Tribunal, is a fascinating description of the Third Reich’s methodical plan to co-opt, pervert, and ultimately usurp the Catholic and Protestant churches of Germany. As an editor of the Nuremberg Project for the Rutgers Journal of Law and Religion described it: “They wanted to eliminate the Jews altogether, but they were also looking to eliminate Christianity.”
The first instalment, entitled “The Nazi Master Plan; The Persecution of Christian Churches,” shows how the Nazis planned to supplant Christianity with a religion based on racial superiority. The report, prepared by the Office of Strategic Services—a forerunner of the CIA—says: “Important leaders of the National Socialist party would have liked . . . complete extirpation of Christianity and the substitution of a purely racial religion.”
The second document is equally significant. It is the thirty-point plan for a National Reich Church, drawn up by Alfred Rosenberg, the Nazi ideologist who was Reich Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories and head of the Centre of National Socialist Ideological and Educational Research. Three of its more significant points are as follows:
1. The National Reich Church is determined to exterminate irrevocably and by every means the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800.
2. The National Reich Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany as well as the publication of Sunday papers, pamphlets, publications, and books of a religious nature.
3. The National Reich Church does not acknowledge forgiveness of sins. It represents the standpoint which it will always proclaim that a sin once committed will be ruthlessly punished by the honourable and indestructible laws of nature and punishment will follow during the sinner’s lifetime.
One need not be a theologian to recognize that whatever religion happens to lurk behind a church that does not recognize the forgiveness of sins and is determined to suppress the Bible, it is not Christianity.
“Nazi Trial Documents Made Public.” BBC News, 11 Jan. 2002. The entire OSS report can be downloaded in four PDF files from http://www.lawandreligion.com/nurinst1.shtml.
Atheism is the core of the whole Soviet system.
—Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, “The Oak and the Calf”
What matters is not whether Hitler and Stalin were atheists, but whether atheism systematically influences people to do bad things. There is not the smallest evidence that it does. Dawkins, The God Delusion, 273.
Now according to the learned gentleman who stalk these pages, religion, in particular Christianity, is the prime cause of war, persecution, suffering and ingrown toenails. I’m going to purposely exclude the Aztecs, who slaughtered around two hundred and fifty thousand people a year, according to their own records, and concentrate on the mainstream, currently extant religions.
By all accounts, the slaughter of the Protestant Huguenots known as the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre was the most infamous of medieval Christendom. It was the low point of the thirty-six years of the Wars of Religion, which in addition to the religious component was a struggle between the House of Guise and the House of Bourbon for the throne of France. And while the massacre was not ordered by King Charles IX—it was at the instigation of his mother, Catherine de’ Medici, of the famously ruthless Italian family—it was blessed with his approval. The murder of an estimated 10,000 Frenchmen over the period of several months by the French crown horrified all Christendom. Even the king’s father-in-law, the Holy Roman Emperor, denounced it, and the young king went to his early grave crying out “What evil council I have followed! O my God, forgive me!”
While it would be irresponsible to fail to remark on the infamous medieval slaughters of the Jews by Christian mobs, it must be recalled that Jews were seldom numerous in any Christian kingdom; there were only 80,000 Jews in all of Spain after eight centuries of Muslim tolerance. Jewish persecution simply wasn’t murder on the modern scale; for example, the worst attack in the history of English Jewry, the Clifford’s Tower massacre, resulted in the deaths of 150 Jews. Moreover, these attacks seldom took place with royal approval—after the anti-Jewish riots at Westminster in 1189, Richard I hanged three of the instigators.
However, there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm, beginning with the First French Republic and ending with the four atheist regimes currently extant: the People’s Republic of China, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, the Laos People’s Democratic Republic, and the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao and are known to have murdered at least 20,000 of their own citizens.
The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.
The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.
Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation! No doubt this is why the Unholy Trinity attempt to limit the discussion of secular evil to Stalin and Mao.
In god is not Great, Christopher Hitchens makes a half-hearted attempt to suggest that the lethality of the modern atheist leader could only be an artifact of the availability of more efficient means of killing people, but this lacklustre defence falls apart when confronted by the staggeringly vicious slaughters committed by technologically challenged killers such as Chang Hsien-chung, Genghis Khan, and Selum the Grim, to say nothing of the lack of interest shown by most non-atheist leaders in making similar use of their own advanced weaponry. But the former Marxist, who presumably knows one strain of socialism from another, ventures upon more fruitful ground when he mentions that in his opinion, the ostensible Communism of the mad butchers of the North Korean mortocracy is less Marxist ideology than it is a “debased yet refined form of Confucianism and ancestor worship.”
This variance from the creed is true of most Communisms: the ideology of the Peruvian Shining Path differs from the pure Maoism of its Chinese originator, which in turn bears little resemblance to the Ethiopian Communism of the Derg regime or the extreme anti-intellectual ruralism of the Khmer Rouge. Even within a single regime, communist ideology tended to vary greatly. For example, the Leninist revision that perverted the industrial vision of Marx and substituted a backward rural peasantry for an urban proletariat after the October Revolution saw further modification once the battle between the internationalist Trotsky and the author of the “socialism in one country” doctrine, Stalin, was decided in favour of the latter.
As much as I dislike agreeing in any way with revisionist Communist apologists, I must confess they have a legitimate point when they question the accuracy of applying the same ideological label to the international post-industrial scientific socialism of Marx and the nationalist pre-industrial peasant socialism of Mao.
All numbers taken from Prof. Rummel’s estimates at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD. TAB16A.1.GIF with some minor updates from newer Rummel figures. The calculations provided are the mid-range for a total of 148 million victims of Communism, although death tolls as high as 260 million in the twentieth century have been estimated. Note that some known Communist countries are not listed here, for example, the state murders committed by the Nicaraguan Sandinista regime and the People’s Republic of South Yemen numbered 5,000 people or less. In some cases, such as Kampuchea and Laos, the numbers reflect the victims of more than one Communist regime, for example, the Khmer Rouge ruled Kampuchea from 1975–1978, after which the Vietnamese- installed puppet government ruled until 1991. Both regimes committed mass murders, although the Khmer Rouge were ten times as deadly as their successors.
The programmme of the Communist International also clearly states that Communists fight against religion. . . . Remember that the struggle against religion is a struggle for socialism.
Pravda editor and Chief of the Union of the Militant Godless
Lenin would not have insisted that “Atheism is a material and inseparable part of Marxism,” Trotksy would not have asserted that the “very essence” of religion “is the mortal enemy of Communism,” and the Bolsheviks would not have seen fit to honour the first atheist philosopher, Jean Meslier, in Moscow soon after the October Revolution. The complete negation of religion was an explicit Soviet goal, for as the Russian Commission for the Rehabilitationof the Victims of Political Repression reported in 1995, 200,000 clergy were massacred as a part of Lenin’s program of “merciless terror”against the Church.
Fletcher, Philippa. “Inquiry Reveals Lenin Unleashed Systematic Murder of 200,000 Clergy.” Hobart
Mercury, 29 Nov. 1995.
The civilized world seems almost certain, sooner or later, to follow the example of Russia in attempting a Communist organization of society. I believe that the attempt is essential to the progress and happiness of [M]ankind during the next few centuries, but I believe also that the transition has appalling dangers. I believe that, if the Bolshevik theory as to the method of transition is adopted by Communists in Western nations, the result will be a prolonged chaos, leading neither to Communism nor to any other civilized system, but to a relapse into the barbarism of the Dark Ages.
Russell, Bertrand. The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism (New York, 1920), 169.
Christianity teaches that this is because man is hopelessly prone to evil, and that war and poverty will always be his curse due to his fallen nature. The Christian cannot hope to end these things, so he is content to work to ameliorate them where and when he can, according to the biblical commands.
This slaughter in the name of atheist progress is neither theoretical nor a thing of the past, it is occurring today, in places such as Camp 22, the largest concentration camp in North Korea. One defector was a former military attache at the North Korean Embassy in China who had previously worked in management at the camp:
“I witnessed a whole family being tested on suffocating gas and dying in the gas chamber,” he said. “The parents, son and a daughter. The parents were vomiting and dying, but till the very last moment they tried to save kids by doing mouth-to-mouth breathing.”
Hyuk has drawn detailed diagrams of the gas chamber he saw. He said: “The glass chamber is sealed airtight. It is 3.5 [meters] wide, 3m long and 2.2m high. [There] is the injection tube going through the unit. Normally, a family sticks together and individual prisoners stand separately around the corners. Scientists observe the entire process from above, through the glass.”
He explains how he had believed this treatment was justified. “At the time I felt that they thoroughly deserved such a death. Because all of us were led to believe that all the bad things that were happening to North Korea were their fault; that we were poor, divided and not making progress as a country.” Barnett, Anthony. “Revealed: the Gas Chamber Horror of North Korea’s Gulag.” The Observer, 1 Feb. 2004.
Now let’s give some detail regarding the mass murders carried out by atheist (yes, ATHEIST) regimes around the world.
Country Dates Murders
Afghanistan 1978–1992 1,750,000
Albania 1944–1985 100,000
Angola 1975–2002 125,000
Bulgaria 1944–1989 222,000
China/PRC 1923–2007 76,702,000
Cuba 1959–1992 73,000
Czechoslovakia 1948–1968 65,000
Ethiopia 1974–1991 1,343,610
France 1793–1794 40,000
Greece 1946–1949 20,000
Hungary 1948–1989 27,000
Kampuchea/Cambodia 1973–1991 2,627,000
Laos 1975–2007 93,000
Mongolia 1926–2007 100,000
Mozambique 1975–1990 118,000
North Korea 1948–2007 3,163,000
Poland 1945–1948 1,607,000
Romania 1948–1987 438,000
Spain (Republic) 1936–1939 102,000
U.S.S.R. 1917–1987 61,911,000
Vietnam 1945–2007 1,670,000
Yugoslavia 1944–1980 1,072,000
It rather puts the puny efforts of religion in the shade, doesn’t it? This is not to say that the church is not guilty of some terrible acts, but they are rank amateurs in this process, even though they’ve been around a eighteen times longer.
But I’m sure you’ll call me a liar and that will settle it, because hey, everyone knows that all Christians do is lie.
I am deeply indebted to Vox Day for a lot of what is presented here. His book is called The Irrational Atheist and, as you’ve challenged me to read books that take me outside my comfort zone, I challenge you to read this book.
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