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US court cases on Jesus

29 August 2013, 11:09

Any US court cases where the finding was that 'Jesus lived, died and rose '?

With this I want to provide Steve Porter an opportunity to clarify some statements he made as part of a comment made by him at 21:32, August 28 in an article called How to debate an atheist and win.

http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/How-to-debate-an-atheist-and-win-20130828

In the comment, Steve Porter wrote:

Let me state this..they took top lawyers in the USA to make a case on evidence...did Jesus live? Was he crucified..and did He rose? They took it to court and they had enough evidence to win..can fill you in with more details if you interested?

I answered him that I’m very interested in the US court cases and asked him for references. I also added that he shouldn’t waste his time on Simon Greenleaf as Simon Greenleaf didn’t take it to court as he had a mock court with himself and that he ‘wrote’ his findings down.

Steve then referred to Simon Greenleaf who wrote an apologetic book called Testimony of the Evangelicals.

Then Steve also provided the following with a reference:

Let [the Gospel's] testimony be sifted, as it were given in a court of justice on the side of the adverse party, the witness being subjected to a rigorous cross-examination. The result, it is confidently believed, will be an undoubting conviction of their integrity, ability, and truth.2

- See more at: http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/the-case-for-christ.htm#sthash.Gos6CTEi.dpuf

I looked through that reference and saw no court cases where the evidence for it was taken to court and and coudn't find any court case involving Simon Greenleaf which was supposed to have found that ‘Jesus lived, died and rose’ .

His following example was Sir Lionel Luckoo, a Brit (not even in the US) and he quoted Sir Luckoo as ‘declaring’:

I humbly add I have spent more than 42 years as a defense trial lawyer appearing in many parts of the world and am still in active practice. I have been fortunate to secure a number of successes in jury trials and I say unequivocally the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt.

This doesn't make it a court case. I can’t see a court case mentioned where the court involving Luckoo found that ‘Jesus lived, died and rose’ .

Steve then referred to Lee Strobel. I can’t find a court case involving Lee Strobel which found that ‘Jesus lived, died and rose’ .

About Lee Strobel, Steve Porter also wrote:

Remarkably, after compiling and critically examining the evidence for himself, Strobel became a Christian. Stunned by his findings, he organized the evidence into a book entitled, The Case for Christ, which won the Gold Medallion Book Award for excellence. Strobel asks one thing of each reader - remain unbiased in your examination of the evidence. In the end, judge the evidence for yourself, acting as the lone juror in the case for Christ.

Writing a book certainly doesn’t make it a court case; neither a court finding.

Then Steve wrote:

Siebert..you trying to misleads what green leaf said?? Go to wiki if you feel betrayed! They dont feel the same as " letspushourangenda.com" where you got youre info? Just be honest its all i ask..if you can.

Very honest. He ran a mock trial involving himself and wrote a book about it.

From Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenleaf

Nothing about Greenleaf being involved in a court case where the court found that ‘Jesus lived, died and rose’.

So, Steve Porter, I provide you with an opportunity to clear your name. Please provide those references to the court cases and where the courts found that ‘Jesus lived, died and rose’. Without those it seems as if you were not telling the truth. Were you lying for Jesus?

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