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Africa, the untold truth

2011-07-08 15:00

What most people in South Africa remain oblivious to are the millions upon millions illegal immigrant Africans living in Europe. Go to any big European city and you'll see desperate Black Africans trying to sell items of fake goods, or whatever else that could possibly get them money to send back home. The Mediterranean Sea has THOUSANDS of Africans per week crossing over to seek better prospects in Europe. I predict that we're to see ALL South Africans following the same path, unless we start dealing with these issues pragmatically we have standing thanks to extremists like Malema.

Oddly enough Dutch speaking Belgium has the most amount of immigrants. Twenty-five percent of their population. Of which Africans make up a healthy majority in that same number. What do we call these people - invaders, settlers? It seems that in South Africa government officials take full right to blatant racism, something a European politician would be locked up in prison for saying.

I just truly wonder why the stories of what racist politicians are saying is not demonstrated to the world! I also wonder why it's not common knowledge how tens upon thousands of South Africans feel so threatened that they've placed refugee applications into foreign embassies, awaiting, begging and pleading to be allowed out of this racism mess that the ANC seem so beset on creating. What would be great is to see demonstrations like never see before to voice the cry of anguished people living under a Neo-Nazi threat, this time only reversed, here in Africa.

The question is more, what is causing Africa's failure? Where its population have to migrate out of sheer desperation to elsewhere in the world? And why have the immigrants the ANC so willingly let into South Africa (thinking that they'd vote them in) voted against the ANC, following them getting voting rights!

Because Africa as a whole has dealt with 50 years of banging its head against a brick wall. Same as in my Mum's Ireland where post-liberation Irish voted in extremism to have the Catholic Church rule the Irish state and to cut off their nose to spite their face.  By refusing to do business there 500 year oppressive Colonisers, the Brits. While understandable, led to 70 YEARS OF HARDSHIP. Of Irish being forced to leave Ireland to move to Britain. Same story as Africa. And same story as to why African immigrants into South Africa vote against the new extremist ANC, who've forgotten the Freedom Charter.

I predict that the biggest threat to the ANC is progressive Socialism, as seen in Botswana and most of Europe and other successful world states. Of course the DA will CERTAINLY not give a damn to the biggest crisis answer - Progressive Socialism.

Because here's the sheer reality.  We're heading for economic meltdown.  What we need is an educated large middle class population with a huge buying power. Instead we're to have Extremist self-interested populists like Malema cause economic meltdown havoc. Because this country and well as most of Africa is too clueless to see the benefits of making sure every last criticise is given a fair chance to perform well to the benefit of the entire economy. I understand that Progressive Socialism is not understood in this "Bold and the Beautiful", "Young and the Restless" American media Capitalist educated population of ours.

But anyone with a tiny bit of sense will realise that Progressive Socialism as seen in Botswana and Europe will wipe out the racism out of this land. No, we're not talking Venezuela failed style of Socialism, but light touches of Socialism to equip all citizens to have buying power. And that Socialism by definition does not discriminate, and is our best chance towards a New South Africa, unlike the once White and now Black Nationalism rearing its ugly head under the helms of Malema and the rest of those Gucci cadres.  

If you wish to see the end of all this South African strife and South Africa turning into another African casualty you'd realise that if every last member of our society was helped to become contributable members of society we'd see a new land, as successful and dynamic as every other well run country run under progressive socialism.

Botswana is one of the least corrupt nations ON EARTH! How's that for a shocker. Truly wish some dynamic political leader could seize the success stories of Progressive Socialism in action and make a society away from what we're heading to. Crime and criminals who get deceived into such lives due to their economic circumstances become our problem in this United States of Capitalist South Africa, where we're too short sighted to realise the damage of selfishness.

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Comments
  • SimonP - 2011-07-08 15:23

    "what is causing Africa's failure?" Clearly it is corrupt, incompetent, "struggle" parties who plunder thier countries.

      majita - 2011-07-08 15:30

      Why are you still here, tell us something new.

      SimonP - 2011-07-08 15:48

      Poloyatonki FACT: 90% of redistributed farm land has failed. Any comment? Majita, tell me, what do you blame for Africas abject failure if it is not corruption and incompetence? Im staying, it will only get better for me.

      majita - 2011-07-08 15:57

      @SimonP, India is worse than Africa, Eastern Europe has its failures, South America has its failures. Angola happens to be one of the fastest growing economies in the World, you need to get out of your little hole and negatiive mentality.

      SimonP - 2011-07-08 16:03

      majita, the wealth of Angola is shared by what percentage of the people? All these failures you mention are role models for what the ANC is aiming for.

      majita - 2011-07-08 16:09

      @SimonP, All these failures you mention are role models for what the ANC is aiming for. PLEASE ELLABORATE.

      MrSpiderman - 2011-07-08 16:15

      majita: So I suppose you are from India (No offence to my Indian friends), thus your "knowledge"? Eastern Europe was created mainly by Starlin and communists) Hence the failure! Born in Brazil (sic) then I suppose? Angola? Tell me who "liberated" Angola! Surely not malemmer! (Though both ends with an "a"!) You must be the greatest historian around!

      Ross - 2011-07-08 16:15

      @majita. Nigeria is the second richest country in Africa and look at the poor people grovelling for a plate of food. The townships over there make Orange Farm look like Houghton. The same applies to Kenya.

      Ross - 2011-07-08 16:21

      @majita. India has more middle class people than the total American population. They are growing at 10% pa and of interest 60% of NASA's computer programming is done in India via satellite. You must start travelling, start with China, India and Vietnam. Thereafter go to Israel so you can observe how agriculture is practised with very little water.

      Colin - 2011-07-08 16:21

      Angola found oil. they are not growing they are getting taxes from the oil companies. if not for oil they would also be starving or on western food help

      Sjamies - 2011-07-08 16:36

      Majita: Eastern Europe's failure are mainly down to it's adoption of communism - fact! Most of South America's failure is down to it's policies of nationalisation and wealth redistribution (Venezuela, Paraguay, Bolivia)- fact! Any of this sound familiar with the current thinking of the ANC? Your ignorance is awesome...

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-09 13:26

      @ majita - Angola, please go check it out, bought over by globalists (China has moved in, send in their PRISONERS (SERIOUS!!)to do manual labour (ove rthe backs of the MILLIONS of poor Angolans living in desperation. Security comoupnds built where multi-nationals eat up the natural resources. Who's to blame?!?! Try Angol,a's OWN LEADERS!! And these facts in turn cause only further heart ache, where effective democracy and where effective progressive Socialism (as in Botswana and ALL of Europe) would take those funds and reinvest into their OWN people. So bloody sad, ignorance is bliss sometimes I swear.

      mark - 2011-07-10 04:51

      @majita: I live in India, come visit and I will show you around!! You have no COOKING clue what you are talking about, sorry!!

  • Tolerant - 2011-07-08 15:30

    Greece has embraced socialism, now they are bankcrupt. Rather stick to Capitalism.

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-08 18:18

      All of Europe runs on progressive Socialism, and have coped the best compared to Capitalist USA. Here's the deal Malema = Racist Black Nationalism, our only alternative is progressive Socialism. but like the pale skiined farmers in Zim, who did not relent and negotiate, many of us will end up messed up. Because the masses want oportunities, and too right that they do. If selfishness keeps beiung the lingua franca, we're heading for Zim. Sad really, Black Nationalism to ruin this country the way it's ruined every other African country, as bigotry and racism never makes good economics.

  • Matt - 2011-07-08 15:47

    @ J Nepgen. I appreciate your concern, but I must ask about the Africans selling fake goods on European streets. I've never encountered that before in Europe! But Europe does have an immigration "problem" in some aspects. Some of it was brought about by colonialism - subjects of fallen empires who gained the ability to move to Europe - also by racism of the day, as EU countries allowed in immigrants to do menial work that was "beneath" them. But now there are immigrants for other reasons; some are refugees and need to escape war and persecution - some are Africans who are claiming persecution, known as economic refugees. It's at the stage where many European citizens don't even agree with allowing refugees in, because the status has been abused. In Holland there are many cases of Ethiopian and Somalian "refugees" who fly back every year to see family - not what you'd do if you were fleeing from persecution! There is resentment in Europe because the State goes out of its way; in the UK refugees get houses and benefits when locals suffer, in Holland it's the same. As a teenager, our local hospital was closed down to make an asylum centre. It does highlight Africa's problems; many Kenyans in USA for example are desperate to return, but don't due to lack of work and corruption. Hopefully SA at least will come right, but looming policies do make one wonder...

      Ross - 2011-07-08 16:25

      The Africans selling fake goods have Chinese bosses who imports the rubbish. It is then sold to Africans at a hansome profit.

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-08 18:12

      Heya Matt, try any city in Italy as a matter of a fact, once I saw the banking streets of Milan laid out with immigrants I had to walk on the road and not the pavement!! Rome - FULL of immigrants from Africa selling fake watches and stuff. It's a damn shame. Weird thing as that as i said in the article, Africa's wising up. South Africa still wants to do Zimbabwe style. The sadder fact is when China, Brazil, Russia and all the other big boys walk into Africa and buy it for a song, following Black Nationalism wrecking it into the ground. Bigotry and Racism does not work, as us pale skinned South Africans are too aware of.

      croix - 2011-07-10 00:04

      Paris, Madrid, Rome - all have large black African populations. And they do sell stuff (aggressively) near tourist spots - a seriously irritating aspect of travel in Europe.

  • Goose - 2011-07-08 15:53

    May I please ask Polioyatonki to PLEASE respond with facts. All he ever says is vague and rhetorical. Polio, please respond to the others on the forum and engage(your brain...if you have one)

      MrSpiderman - 2011-07-08 16:21

      Sorry Goose, he will not answer you! He has 20 "cut and paste" answers on Notepad and you are asking an question which does not appear on his screen! Donkey with Polio; proof me wrong!!!!

      tryanything - 2011-07-09 17:00

      KAS

  • ZAMSI - 2011-07-08 16:00

    Nationalisation of Banks and land is just bad news for our economy, bcoz that'll never help any poor person instead it will suck the money out of government and economy till we have a financial crisis like the previous Soviet Union in Europe. As for black people in Europe, they were imported as slaves by whites during slavery time. How does a poor black man find means to go to Europe instead of buying bread.

      Ross - 2011-07-08 16:32

      They kwela an unseaworthy overloaded boat and pray for the best. Many drown in the attempt.

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-08 18:07

      Zamsi - You are seriously telling me that the THOUSANDS PER WEEK crossing ino Europe is a lie and that they were slaves?!?!? CVheck your facts out, you'd be shocked. Even more shocked to realise that slavery's happening in Africa, by it's VERY OWN PEOPLE!!

      Jo - 2011-07-09 19:21

      Zamsi - go and spend just one day at the airport and count how many black South Africans can afford or save up to take flights out of here on holiday, business or to find a safe haven for themselves and their families. You have to think and look for yourself, don't just hand over your mind to the people around you.

  • Paulus - 2011-07-08 16:06

    I got so bored trying to read this I stopped halway and decided I will rather spend my time writing to you, Mr Nepgen. Your article is boring...

  • edwinp1 - 2011-07-08 16:19

    Just a small correction. In Belgium they speek Flemish and French.

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-08 18:04

      As the author, apologies for the oversimplification, was more so specifying that weirdly enough Belgium has the highest percentage foreign immigrants (mainly from Africa, as I said). Yet we keep seeing people say for the Dutch to go home, when in fact Belgium has the highest immigrants in Europe, and speak version of Dutch.

  • gazzaz - 2011-07-08 16:32

    You an absolute MORON, that has no regard for the future wellbeing of OUR country!!

  • Watcher - 2011-07-08 16:33

    I don't believe you have bothered to follow the course of socialism in Scandanavia. have a look at the people drinking in the parks of Copenhagen. One of the highest levels of alcoholism in the world. scratch the surface and you will find that it is no paradise for a big segment of the population and the government is having great problems funding all these social programmes. We would be better served if the labour laws and general red tape surrounding starting a business could be changed to encourage small business and employment. Let everyone rise to their own level and do away with the begging bowl culture of grants for everything. Just because you have a child does not mean that I, and every other taxpayer, should pay for it. Think properly about it 5 million taxpayers can't continue to support 14 million (AND rising)on grants. That is the solution.

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-08 18:01

      I as the author was not mentioning Scandinavian style Socialism in specific. I was referring to more so European style Socialism. Even as seen in Britain and Ireland. We have a choice, simply put = Black Nationalism or Progressive Socialism . by not democratically neotiating to help enrich the lives of the impoverished masses we're heading for that same path as those Zim White farmers. Because it's simple Malema = Racist Black Nationalism and progressive Socialism will help EVERYONE. But you guys won't realise that until it's too late. If the impoverished masses were given Progressive Socialism as an opportunity to get them out of poverty they'd take it before Racist Black Nationalism. but the powers that will be hold their sticky fingers as tightly as possible to what won;t be their's in a few years. Mark my words.

  • Crazy Ivan - 2011-07-08 17:22

    Your right about a mass exodus from Africa, problem is first world countries are wise to this and are deporting like crazy! Really really sad, cause all people want to do is provide for their families...guess Africa needs to realize it needs to be run like a first world by first world thinking or the suffering will just continue.

  • Zion - 2011-07-08 18:17

    Why did you not come to the point immediately and tell us you are selling a failed ideology. I am sure most of us are very aware of the black situation in Europe and the UK. Recently I read a blog from the Uk targeting black opinion. Most want to return to Africa ,it being their land of birth but remain in europe due to the LOWER cost of living compared to africa. Africans are immune to political upheavels and that bothered only a few. Many left Africa with their degrees to find better work out side Africa. Most were not alienated from their countries of birth or Africa as a whole. By and large these people are not complete idiots: They are aware of corruption in their countries and if there is no corruption then it is just better hidden.

  • motsokwane - 2011-07-08 18:42

    Which European streets are you referring to? Greece? Portugal? Spain? may be suggest the Asian streets.Europeans are wondering of which streets they should invade.

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-08 21:11

      What are you on about Motsokwane?!?!?! Ifg you left your little hole and saw the world you'd see that Europe has FAR more Black people than SOUTH AFRICA HAS WHITE PEOPLE YOU IGNORANT PRICK

      Jo - 2011-07-09 19:23

      Try London, Milan - even the south of France.

  • SNOTKOP - 2011-07-08 18:55

    @Polio-Donkey, i`ve read some of your posts in the past and i`ve realised you are either a troll or a retard, one of the two, but in all probability, you`re both! Experience hastaught me to scroll over you comments without reading them as you clearly have nothing to add of any value to any topic! Maybe we should discuss the energy benefits of "putu-pap" so you can comment on a subject matter you actually have knowledge of?

      sean.redmond3 - 2011-07-10 16:56

      I love reading polydonkies masterful replies, he is a very thoughtful and intelligent commentator. HIS comments are thought provoking and makes one want to puke. I think he spends most of his time in the OFS crappers thinking what to write, so give him a break.

      Dilika - 2011-07-11 10:08

      Snotkop what did you add to this topic? Just asking

  • Peter - 2011-07-08 21:42

    BOTSWANA HAS A VERY HEALTHY ECONOMY, THEIR BEEF IS BOUGHT ALL OVER THE WORLD, WHY BECAUSE THEY STRICT POLICIES IN PLACE, THEIR PRESIDENT HAS A SALARY THAT IS LESS THAN AN AVERAGE DEPUTY MINISTER SALARY IN SOUTH AFRICA, THEY ARE AN EDUCATION MIND FIXED COUNTRY, WHERE ADULT EDUCATION IS A TOP PRIORITY, OH YES DO NOT COMMIT CRIME THERE, YOU WILL RECEIVE THE FULL MIGHT OF THE LAW.DO NOT BACK CHAT A POLICEMAN IF YOU HAVE DONE WRONG, AND CRIMINALS DO NOT HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AND GET BAIL FOR FIRST SCHEDULE OFFENCES > WHAT A COUNTRY > BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

      motsokwane - 2011-07-09 12:34

      You forgot the most important fact about their healthy economy,their mines are 60% nationalized.

      crackerr - 2011-07-09 15:07

      I challenge you to inform the readers here when and how the mines were nationalized in Botswane. Thank heavens for Internet and search engines so we can check on some of the half truths being posted here.

      johncarlos.biza - 2011-07-09 16:34

      True, Botswana is quite a marvel. Simple people who have respect for life and each other

      tryanything - 2011-07-09 17:03

      So if the mines are natiionalised the gov there is certainly doing a better job than ours is..

      SaintBruce - 2011-07-09 23:26

      @ Motsokwane - the Government has a 50/50 partnership in most major businesses - want to know why? When you bring business technology and ideas they need and set up a company in Botswana, the Government pays the salaries of the workers you employ as follows" 100 % - year 1, 75 % year 2, 50% year 3 and 25% year 4, after which your business is booming, your workers are trained and productive and most of all - unemployment is lowered through this incentive program. I would be happy to start a business on those terms even giving 50% ownership to the State as we both WIN ! I know of factories that relocated there and are very competitive against South African companies in the same market. The Tswana I met there are some of the brightest and friendliest people I have had the pleasure to meet. It's not nationalisation, it's co-operative governance, something the ANC could not bear to do ! Business and Government working together for a common goal - economic strength - Botswana has it, SA is losing it!

      mark - 2011-07-10 05:00

      Ha, now I know why the rest of Africa is flocking to SA and not Botswana. In Botswana crime is not tolerated!

      whereu - 2011-07-10 10:20

      motsokwane, If SA “nationalised” in the same way that Botswana has I would be more than happy. They do not have a policy of sizing assets without compensation (i.e. stealing) but pay their share in having an interest in mining companies. I invest in mining companies based in Botswana because I know the rules of engagement and they do and say nothing to undermine confidence. You can't say that about recent statement by ANCYL leaders. If you think that SA mines can operate without outside investment, all I can do is wish you the best of luck

      johncarlos.biza - 2011-07-10 13:06

      @Mark there was next to no crime in Botswana in the 1990s. It only increased when the Zim economy collapsed and immigrants flocked in and started mugging people-something that was unknown there before! Some people from Botswana are now xenophobic-and for the right reasons-but they are too cultured to go around attacking immigrants, like the locals. I visited my dad's friend there once. He was staying in a township right next to wealthy European immigrants! Imagine Europeans building a big home at an SA township lol.

      Andrew - 2011-07-10 17:17

      In general crime and civil unrest are dealt with in short time. There is a death penalty which discourages violent crimes and murder. The counries resources are shared with a few. A 2 million population results in USD 15 500 per capita GDP. SA on the other hand has a population of 50 million resulting in a USD 5 800 per capita GDP. They are three times more wealthy. Perhaps we need to stop breeding. Finally, their President Ian Kama is highly intelligent, and not scared to do the right thing. The cabinet is small and competent and at last look had only two females and 4 whites out of a total of 16. Ian Kama is a shining light in African democracy. We could learn lots from Botswana. Clean streets, policing. While they build low impact game lodges that need to be eco friendly our government ar etalking about hotels in the Kruger Park. Botswana has learnt the key. Sustainable growth, you have to give back for those still to be born. S.A. on the other hand is about how much you can take NOW F%^k those who will come after you. A rabid bunch of greed frenzied idiots.

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-10 22:07

      Just a correction to low IQ'ed motsokwane - The Botswana government was GIVEN 51% shares by Anglo America, no they don't have 60% That's what even lesser brained Malema's after. And the money received from that goes towards 20% on their education, which in turn enriches the country. They're doing EVERYTHING right. Unlike this joke of a country, would LOVE to move there, and if I had the chance I would. I may be pale skinned but I'm African, through and through. I love whatever shade of skin as my neighbour, just prefer middle class people to stupid idiots like you.

      Orca - 2011-07-11 07:10

      And their AIDS figures are even worse than South Africa's.

      johncarlos.biza - 2011-07-11 08:42

      @Andrew and the best part is that he(president) is not blindly followed! There are young people who are still critical of the way the country is run, despite it's effectiveness! That's what I call a democracy

      Neil - 2011-07-11 11:53

      @motsokwane: That they are.. The diffirence is they don't have political parties like YOUR anc and ancyl idiots just wanting to line their own pockets and that's WHY it is working there. Need I mention that THE government their actually live up to their promise and not lie and promise people houses and then bribe them with a silly food packet and a t-shirt that is worth less than a roll of single ply toilet paper to get their vote. You buffoon!

  • Englishman - 2011-07-09 15:20

    I am English and just spent a couple of weeks in SA. Black guys in expensive 4x4s driving past would shout at me in Africaans - I have no idea what they said but it did not sound encouraging. What and why??

      crackerr - 2011-07-09 15:31

      Try something more authentic. Liar.

  • BlakKat - 2011-07-09 16:04

    Excellent read. We need more people telling it like it is.

  • Joe - 2011-07-10 01:03

    "What do we call these people - invaders, settlers?" PARASITES.

  • Ouklip - 2011-07-10 09:33

    Dream on, Socialism in any form can not work. Why will a person work hard, pay 50% of tax so that the government pays somebody a living wage not to work. The free narket system is the only way. Small geovernment and low taxes. Europe is bankrupt, the US close to it.

      Jayjay001 - 2011-07-11 16:07

      @ Ouklip - Europe is better off compared to The USA. The USA is finito, a flogged dead horse. Americans are MOVING to Europe in DROVES, check out that fact!! Europe's buckling under the weight of immigrants all moving into the land of milk and honey (supposedly).

  • NOB - 2011-07-10 14:51

    Hey dude....go back to school!!!!

  • Jou - 2011-07-10 21:23

    PLAUGE!!!!!!!!

  • Tank - 2011-07-10 21:36

    are there white people in botswana?

  • zmbazuvara - 2011-07-11 02:15

    another sorry white man tale,hard to accept that everything is changing around them,hating the thought that a black man will be his messiah cometh the hour! let me enlighten you my friend,africa is on the up,and you my friend is too blind to see that,so please do us all a favour and migrate with the rest of kind! here in africa,we need open minded individuals,willing to work with the black man to help africa grow!

      Orca - 2011-07-11 07:13

      You're quite a comedian, aren't you.

      Alpahbrutus - 2011-07-11 07:24

      @zmbazuvara You poor, deluded moron. "Africa is on the up"? Really? Where? Zimbabwe? South Africa? How about Nigeria or Somalia? All shining lights of progress and beacons of good-governance. The truth is that you are just another sorry black pawn trying to say the right thing so you can get what you see is your piece of the pie from your racist overlords. You are an embarrassment to the hard-working non-racist people of South Africa (both black and white), whose futures you and your corrupt, self-serving, criminal brethren are flushing down the toilet just so you can steal what is not yours, thinking that loads of ill-gotten cash will somehow give you class. How about using the Internet to find the FACTS instead of just using it to watch porn.

      Lanfear - 2011-07-11 10:26

      How wrong you are. You are truly unenlightened, uneducated and just plain wrong if you think I [and most other whites in SA] gives a hoots a*s whehter we have a white or black or coloured or Asian or pink or green or alien government, so long as they WORK! Don't you have any concept of what a government is supposed to do? Do you have any idea what a working country looks like? Obviously not. You cling to the skewed image of the wealthy few as you see in Zimbabwe. What you should be doing is looking towards our other northern neighbour, Botswana. A far better example to follow. Messiah? Huh? WTF are you talking about? Sounds rather comical so I'll respond with a LOL. Africa on the up? Where? Who? Name one example.

  • Jan Jabroer - 2011-07-11 10:17

    Beasts of England unite! Viva!

  • York Hunt - 2011-07-11 11:08

    @ The Author. Nice try. However, a non-racial Republic with moral, hard working citizens is the ONLY system that works. Socialism will only result in a dictatorial oligarchy (history has proven this over and over!). "Progressive Socialism"? You're kidding yourself. Socialism is coming back. You can bet your commie leftist a$$ about that. But it isn't the answer! I bet you just love Karl Marx!

  • Vince.York - 2011-07-11 11:37

    This is AFRICA. This is South Africa. Your "economic melt-down" is an unwanted dire situation and untenable to YOU! To the average South African, it is merely a passing form of transformation and an evil that must be endured in shosholoza manner while the elite tribal royalty set themselves up in new grandeur and situations in order to latch onto and hand out tidbits at their leisure.

  • kaMazibuko - 2011-07-11 12:09

    useless article, Julius only came onto the spotlight just a few years ago...u can't be saying everything thats going wrong in SA is bcoz of him, ure giving him too much credit....

  • Wade - 2011-07-11 15:52

    the truth on the ANC - http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~springbk/enemy.html to all pro-ANC sheep - is this what you aspire to?

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