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Selebi, the ANC and justice

2010-07-05 09:58

The ANC would want us to believe that the guilty verdict of prominent cadre, Comrade Jackie Selebi is proof that democracy and the justice system works.
 
As so often before they conveniently forget to mention their desperate attempts to prevent Selebi’s prosecution; the vilification of Frene Ginwala for frustrating their attempts to hound Vusi Pikoli – the man that spearheaded the prosecution of Selebi – out of the justice system and the party; the fact that the two people spearheading the attack against Pikoli, Simelani and Shabangu, were promoted whilst Pikoli was condemned and silenced.
      
Ironically, the ANC, quick to claim the high ground, feel they can now turn around and say the same justice system decided not to prosecute Zuma for his corruption. People with short memories would’ve forgotten by now that the justice system personnel that made the Zuma decision did not include Vusi Pikoli. By that time Pikoli was dispatched to the outer fringes of the justice system; left to rot; an outcast; replaced by acting NPA head and Lay Judge Mokotedi Mpshe – remember his plagiarised, staged-for-media judgment on the Zuma case?

Mpshe for his loyal work was nominated to be a real judge and the man credited with bringing Pikoli down - Zuma hatchet man and prime stooge, Mendi Simelane - was awarded with Pikoli’s job, enabling him to continue to prosecute in true Zuma style where the truth is fuzzy and justice often warped.
 
It is not surprising then that the ANC, despite the judge in the Selebi case mentioning the unwavering honesty and integrity of Vusi Pikoli, will not take that cursed name on their lips when taking credit for the successful prosecution of the crook, Selebi.

At least the ANC can rest assured only cadres of their choice will be prosecuted. Small fish like Selebi will have to be fried from time to time in an attempt to fool those naïve enough - and there are many, believe me - to believe a grain of honesty and integrity remains on that ship of fools.

In the mean time, whilst the praises of our Justice system - especially the prosecuting authority - is sung, they refuse to prosecute or even investigate the bribery and corruption case of Comrade Rasool, whose reward - having paid corrupt journalist to act as his personal praise singers with great apparent success, are ready to fly off into the wide blue yonder to represent moral and just South Africa in the USA where he will, no doubt espouse the wholesomeness of the great leader and the ANC government.

If that is not enough, the great minister of the airwaves, Siphiwe Nyanda, are reaping the rewards of his corrupt relationships with deployed cadre Gama, another small fish, who was sadly victimised and subsequently displaced by misguided forces in the ANC.

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Comments
  • GT @ George - 2010-07-05 10:01

    I'm happy with the verdict of "guilty," but I'll be happier when they sentence the corrupt police official to jail, AND he actually serves his sentence in jail... Let's see what happens.

  • alan - 2010-07-05 10:09

    Absolutely agree. And it is very doubtful if Selebi would have even been convicted had it not been for a very vocal opposition. Thank heavens for the DA and the media. Otherwise how much more ANC corruption would be swept under an already-bulging carpet?

  • Sarah - 2010-07-05 10:10

    It is better to light one candle, than to sit alone in the dark... Whilst the system and the users are still corrupt, at least one player has been removed from the board. I think JS misjudged the man he had fired from ACSA - the lad turned out to be a great hunter. He comes across as a bit mad/rabid, but he did a bang up job of getting adverse info on Mr. Selebi and his cohorts.

  • SimonP - 2010-07-05 10:14

    The FACTS prove the ANC is corrupt to the core. Lucky for them their supporters in general are so blinkered they either refuse to see the facts or simply deny them.
    If Selebi gets a prison sentence, how lnng before he becomes "terminally" ill and is out in no time? Any ANC supporter care to comment on Shabir? Didnt think so.
    THe ANC are conning you so blatantly why can you not see it?

  • IandI - 2010-07-05 10:14

    I think Selebi will suddenly catch a "terminal disease" and spend the next 15 yrs in hospital, like Shabir.A-Loota continua! Viva African National Corruption!

  • Sean R - 2010-07-05 10:16

    Agree,Let's see what happens.

  • shawn - 2010-07-05 10:16

    the ANC cannot last. nothing that corrupt can. like a rotten floorboard, eventually it will break. and the whole mess will go crashing down into hell.

  • kay - 2010-07-05 10:16

    Boring, another ANC Rhetoric hate column

  • Alicia - 2010-07-05 10:18

    Friends and I are having bets on how long it will take for Jackie Selebi to become terminally ill.
    I am also warily happy that he was found guilty. But this is a cover up for such a large can of stinking worms. Just wish Vusi Pikoli would one day stand up and tell the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

  • Smanga - 2010-07-05 10:29

    Yeah yeah yeah ... whatever, next!

  • mike - 2010-07-05 10:35

    I think the ANC is fast becomming bigger joke than we thought, They have run out of leadership, Mandela was the first and last succesful black president, its been down hill ever since then.
    You need real skilled educated people to run a country and put a goverment together, some of the people in our goverment cant even speak english properly, so what do you really expect

  • WIZZ - 2010-07-05 10:37

    Whilst it is fantastic that at least one of the corrupt officials has been found guilty. What would be even more fantastic is if the R14 m (and counting) spent on the defence of Selebi could be returned to the coffers of the tax payers. In fact - surely a state defender should be provided at the cost of the State but any costs incurred for legal representation beyond that should be paid by the accussed himself? Instead of using MORE of the tax payers. money to foot the bill defending a thief?

  • Shrek - 2010-07-05 10:39

    The poor are the ones that are hurt and suffer the most 'cos of Corruption.

  • horace - 2010-07-05 10:40

    kay boring maybe to you but otherwise very very true

  • TD - 2010-07-05 10:44

    Whinning even when the ANC govt delivered justice is boring.

  • Linda - 2010-07-05 10:48

    So sad. So true. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

  • Juan - 2010-07-05 10:50

    Ask any anc supporter if they know what the word 'corruption' means, and you'll get that doff thousand yard stare from them. This is the problem. If the masses dont realise "corruption causes poverty" then they will never vote otherwise.

  • teboho - 2010-07-05 10:54

    yes,im an ANC member,i must agree that some comrades are being victimised,Simphiwe Nyanda should have also been suspended.and this should not be taken as WHITES hating ANC,the factt is ANC is corrupt.im frm the rural community in kzn and my community have been a victime of broken promises.the ANC should stop defending some comrades and victimising some.

  • Craig - 2010-07-05 10:55

    One of the scariest thought are that the international so called police, had know idea of Selebi's crime, I find that very hard to believe, which means interpol are even more corrupt than the SAP, scaaaaaaarrrrry

  • hands clean - 2010-07-05 10:55

    I wonder if now a nice deal is on the cards like happened for Shaik the same for Selebi?

  • martin albert - 2010-07-05 10:58

    You forgot that other pillor of corruption - Balfour who has been trucked off to foreign lands and will not answer for any of the gross corruption in Prisons. Absolute disgrace but nothing new for the ANC. The worst thing of all is the deathly silence from respected people like Manuel, Gordhan, Manteshe, etc. Not what Nelson dreamt about hey!

  • t-bo - 2010-07-05 10:58

    selebi wil be out soon jst like mr shaik,if u got money u wnt even serve half of your sentence thats hw our justice works.

  • Juan - 2010-07-05 11:02

    My prediction: Long appeal process that never ends... then him getting quick parole or even off on some technicality. He will NEVER serve time like non-politically connected criminals. This is how it works here.

  • Juan @ teboho - 2010-07-05 11:04

    and STILL you vote for them. If you suffer without running water or electricity, just think: you did it all to yourself. Suffer another four years and then vote again. If you haven't suffered enough, go ahead, vote anc. just don't ever complain!

  • Rudzani - 2010-07-05 11:05

    lets jus w8 n c wt happens

  • M'Sipho - 2010-07-05 11:11

    @Juan and the rest of ANC-bashers....you are not doing your party any favours by insulting ANC members/voters. It's really counter-productive.

    I for one will not be voting for your DA as long as there's still condescending people like you.

  • Thobi - 2010-07-05 11:23

    So.... what would you be saying had the verdict been "not guilty"....seriously? And, is it an ANC member who delivered the verdict? I'm confused...I thought justice was for all of us. How is the ANC gonna benefit from this verdict exactly?

  • patrick - 2010-07-05 11:24

    Mike, you are spot on about Mandela.
    It definitely appears that "one swallow does not a summer make"
    Surely out of 48 million people we can do better than the crop of miscreants we currently have in charge!!!!!!!

  • Clintwestwood - 2010-07-05 11:25

    Judge for yourself." These hands are not so clean. Finish and Klaar"..Now go to jail. straight to jail, do not collect fancy Italian shoes..

  • @Msipho - 2010-07-05 11:26

    You will not vote DA because some DA supporters tell the truth about the corrupt ANC? Thats makes so much sense....NOT!

  • @Rudzani from Willem - 2010-07-05 11:27

    I Agree we all are waiting. Some of us already 16 years and more.

  • @teboho - 2010-07-05 11:27

    OK, you know the ANC is corrupt, you know they have lied to you, tell me why you still vote for them.

  • steve - 2010-07-05 11:29

    M'Sipho, if you can't read and comprehend what has happened then you are a bloody idiot! This article is based on facts! PS: enjoy your lack of service delivery.

  • M'Sipho - 2010-07-05 11:34

    "You will not vote DA because some DA supporters tell the truth about the corrupt ANC?"

    This is the good-old straw-man tactic.....I'm used to it.......I'm a debater by nature. You turn my statement into something I didn't say, and then you attack it. Cheap tactics!

    The point I am making is simple really; you don't win people over by insulting them. Or, is that how you convinced your wife to go out with you?

    The logic is so simple I'm embarrassed I have to explain it. State your facts without being condescending. But then of course you have been made to believe that ANC voters are simply the "uneducated masses", maybe that explains your behavior.

  • Mike or Mpho - 2010-07-05 11:42

    I am so tired of listening and reading of how the ANC is man-handling this wonderful country. If Selebi was found guilty, this clearly means that the ANC corruption has spun out of control. Surely the International world (aka UN, etc) should get involved in sorting out this crisis at the very top?!

    It unacceptable for an ANC supported, the average joe, the opposition or other party supporter, the poor, the rich. It's time to stop allowing these animals up there of doing whatever they want! any suggestions for the readers?

  • AJ @ M'Sipho - 2010-07-05 11:44

    So what you are saying is you wont vote for a party you suspect could od a better job, simply because you disagree with someone on a form who is a total stanger to you, but who you suspect votes for that party. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Dont worry about otehr people and their motives, vote for yourself man, I dont get your logic.

  • lc - 2010-07-05 11:47

    ANC = ZANU PF. Can you feel it, it's here....

  • M'Sipho - 2010-07-05 11:47

    @Steve; again you are using the good old tactic used by people who can't eloquently express themselves. "If you don't think like I do, then you are an idiot". That, along with statements like "anyone with a brain-cell would know this", or "we all know that...."...which is all basically equivalent to "I'm right because I say I'm right....and anyone who thinks otherwise must have lost his mind".

    But then again, what am I saying, I should not expect any better from whine24 users.

  • @Msipho - 2010-07-05 11:50

    Your problem is that when facts are presented you automatically label them racist or condescending so that they cannot be applied to the arguement. FACT: The majority of ANC voters ARE uneducated thanks to the ANC doing nothing for education in 16 years.

  • Rod - 2010-07-05 11:53

    I feel sorry for Selebi as I do for Shaik. They are just pawns in the wider game of politics and, as in a game of chess, something has to be sacrificed to advance to the goal. By the way, to all those who will flay me for my comment, I am white, I am a-political but I am a realist.

  • DeonL - 2010-07-05 12:02

    He is guilty so he should not have money for an appeal etc. I predict that he gets 15 years but due to the fact that he was a Mbeki man and not Zuma, he will sit 7 years!
    I wonder if he have anything on MBEKI?

  • Motsamai T - 2010-07-05 12:06

    Well corruption may cause poverty, but if you look @it like this. How many couples in SA are honest to each other, then maybe we can know how to better deal with corruption. My point is charity begins @ home, what I do in my home then i will practise what i know at my work place. Come the next political party in power if it ever happens in my lifetime, believe you me corruption will always be there. Even in the old govmnt it was there. Unfortunately the few innocent ones are not favoured by many. And in this world we living in, survival is about how fit you are, financially, physically, intellectually, whom you know...ect. Till the time we live in true meaning of politics, political parties we be formed in large numbers than being reduced, and they will always oppose each other.

  • brak - 2010-07-05 12:12

    Man!!! Android is awesome..if you can jail break your phone(-;

  • Joey @ Msipho - 2010-07-05 12:14

    Bud you're fighting a losing battle. I have not been here long but have learnt not to debate with folk. You spend the whole time defending things you did not say. Or people think that by typing something in caps it must mean they are correct. It's as you say, the prevailing attitude is: people must think before they vote, but unless they vote for the party I like they must be an idiot. And worse, they'll never see the irony in their statements. Do me a favour, change your username to say, Richard Smith, see the type of responses you get.

  • Boondokker - 2010-07-05 12:19

    I agree but have two words for you...Tony Yengeni.

  • CR - 2010-07-05 12:20

    Wonder which golf club Selebi will be sentenced to?? 15 years hard labour at Fancourt, just like SHABIR SHAIK!!! What a joke. R20 million of tax payers money later. What did Shabir cost us?? R 200 million??

  • Frank - 2010-07-05 12:26

    This proves that the SA justice system is impartial and effective? That just makes me laugh. If anything like that were true, Shabir Shaik would be in jail right now, serving his sentence, and Zuma would be in court facing the charges that were made to disappear before his election.

    So. Let's start with Zuma and Shaik. When the law has dealt with them, then maybe I'll believe that the SA justice system is impartial and effective. Meanwhile I'm not holding my breath.

  • ALS - 2010-07-05 12:40

    Let's see how quickly the ANC step in and save his a$$ from going to jail.

  • glen - 2010-07-05 12:48

    Just another corrupt African state.

  • Gerard@George - 2010-07-05 12:52

    Article is to the point. If you had to write about all of the corrupt officials in the ANC then News24.com would need a bigger server. My question is when will South Africa wake up and see that they all are voting for cronies. The situation is really pathetic. Puff, puff, pass...