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2008-11-24 08:21

Chris Moerdyk

Is it just me or is there anyone else who thinks that a lot of travel agents and tour operators think we are completely stupid?

After all, people who can afford to travel overseas or even locally these days are surely worldly wise enough to understand the basics of getting from A to B.

So, why do agents and tour operators keep quoting us prices in big bold letters and then tell us in very tiny print somewhere that those prices don't include airport taxes, actual airfares and all sorts of other things from meals to transfers and visa fees.

Are they that stupid that they don't realise we're going to be seriously annoyed when they advertise a fun-filled holiday for R15 000 and then later on or in small type hidden away somewhere, explain that its not actually R15 000 because when you add the airport taxes and other bits and pieces the actual price is probably R17 000?

It's not as though customers have any option. You can't opt out of paying airport taxes. You either pay up or you don't go.

So why not come clean and just give the whole damn price right from the start?

Because maybe there are other people like me who simply do not and will not travel with any agency or tour operator that -hides? these extras.

Why? Because I don't trust anyone who skulks behind fine print.

Full price

So, I only take an interest in ads that show fully inclusive prices first time off.

Of course, I know what all these people are doing. They're following the example of the retail trade and others who advertise things for R2.99 instead of just saying R3. From a marketing perspective that still works, as long as one is working with relatively small numbers. But, offering a Lounge Suite for R13 999 instead of just saying R14 000 is pointless. The point is, even that is a full price. No one else hides part of the cost.

Now, of course all the travel people are going to say that they cannot be precise about things like airport taxes and that's the reason they show them separately. Ok so why show them so damn small when you do? And you all do. But there are a few who don't and do show the full price. So how do they do it?

Frankly, I think this is more of a cop-out that a plausible reason.

The other thing that I find incredibly insulting is when a tour operator offers a package for say R30 000 and then proudly goes onto say that the deal includes a free travel bag. For crying out loud - who on earth would choose between one R30 000 package tour and another just because you get a free travel bag that probably doesn't cost more than about 200 bucks?

It's like those idiots who offer to give you a "free quote" on something.

They all live in a marketing cloud-cuckoo land.

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KoosS 11/24/2008 8:46:49 AM
You're hitting a nerve here, there will be lots of agreement. Like banks looking after you, the biggest choking hand in the land, etc. Which is why the generational theorists will tell you young people are not influenced by advertising anymore. Also why word of mouth advertising is becoming so popular as a business model.
Nick 11/24/2008 8:58:22 AM
Spot on Chris. I will not book anything through a travel agent, rather pay the Airline/Hotel direct. Why pay extra for a service you don't need? With the advent of the internet travel agents are a thing of the past.
VG 11/24/2008 9:24:50 AM
LOL. I've often wondered about this. It's craziness - let's say you see a holiday advertised for R5000.At that price it might be affordable and you may be interested. However, at R7000 it may no longer be within your budget. Do they think that by hiding the costs and springing them on you at the end, you'll magically be able to conjure up the shortfall? not likely.
vims 11/24/2008 9:27:10 AM
The reality is that there are alot of stupid people out there with lots of money and these devious ploys work on those people. They go with one deal because its "cheaper" and then couldn't be bothered to look else where when they find out the total price becasue to them its just a "couple of thousand more" and not worth the effort. The same thing used to happen when buying a car, but now the dealers haveto tell you up front all the costs and finance conditions.
Birdman 11/24/2008 9:29:43 AM
Another mystery for you. I travel a fair bit locally and internationally. A return date is not always possible to pin down precicely. I understand that a one-way ticket will come at a premium but am amazed that a return ticket is sometimes cheaper than a one-way ticket. Surely this is nonsensical. Why bother with this? It is cheaper to forego a return flight and book another return flight at my convenience, It costs less. Why?
Tax 11/24/2008 9:34:03 AM
Yes Chris , like the variants in taxes quoted on tickets, No-one can make head or tail of the structures
leelee 11/24/2008 9:46:08 AM
Clearly not. You really do have it in for us agents, do you realise what we put through with our clients, and I bet you are one of them aren't you? Since the scrapping of commissions and airport taxes being increased as the airlines don't want to show it in their fares as its more profitable to show in the taxes we are the ones being accused of ripping off the client. Don't badger until you know how complicated this industry is buddy. We not all bad some of us know what service is about.
Margaret Hyson 11/24/2008 9:48:07 AM
Yes, it's crazy. But what is even more crazy to me is the fact that the airport tax charged by SAA is more than the whole ticket on Kulula. That's why Voyager miles are so useless - it costs me more to use them than to choose another airline.
leelee 11/24/2008 9:54:50 AM
If you so against using an agent, who will you go to when you need advise to do that wonderful overseas complicated holiday, which hotel to stay in and which airline will give you the best fare and routing. We give advise and quotes to customers continuously without charging.I think we should charge for our extensive knowledge of the world especially those of us in the industry for almost 20yrs. However I do understand there are some of "us" out there that have done the damage for the rest of us.
jannie 11/24/2008 10:18:53 AM
...the contract says 35pm, but then with itemised billing, CLIP and all mandatory nonsense the price comes to 69pm.
Traveller 11/24/2008 10:19:05 AM
Like the Club Med adverts which gleefully advertise 'Comprehensive Travel Insurance' (mandatory when you purchase a holiday package with them), only to find out that it is anything but comprehensive as we did to our detriment on a recent aborted trip to Thailand. Their travel insurance isn't even worth the paper it's advertised on. Their advertising lulls you into a false sense of security - make sure you question EVERYTHING with a travel agent or operator!!
Keroshin Naidoo 11/24/2008 10:28:44 AM
I would have to agree with Chris on this one, but I find it strange that nobody(except Kulula I think) who has used this as a marketing strategy. Imagine how attractive an advert would look with big bold writing, that clearly states that the quoted price includes all hidden costs like airport taxes...
JK 11/24/2008 10:43:09 AM
why is SA airport tax SO much more than most other countries (in some cases more than double)?
Paul 11/24/2008 10:44:47 AM
Generally i agree with the sentiments here, except that I found the only reason you migt want to consider a agent is that they sometimes negotiate better deals with hotels and airlines since they can do block bookings. Otherwise, arrange it all yourself, it is such fun.
Cynicus 11/24/2008 10:45:27 AM
A lot more "Thanks, but stick yer offer where the Sun doesn't shine!" from potential customers would help. Airfares come to mind - When the taxes on a flight are 30-70% of the total cost, then the advertised ticket price is a laugh. A sudden failure to sell tickets and packages may well help focus things. Sadly, this is not going to happen. As consumers, we're far too compliant.
Joe 11/24/2008 10:47:35 AM
If I recall, the body representing travel agencies decided a while back that the so-called taxes must be advertised clearly in all advertising material. Why are the defaulting travel agents not brought to book? The biggest con, off course, is the references to "taxes". Only Pravin Gordhan can levy "taxes", the rest are just hidden charges with the airport charges being a fraction of the cost. When is someone going to expose this "airport taxes" racket once and for all?
Henry 11/24/2008 11:03:36 AM
....on how all these taxes and crap works. Why is it when you travel from Jhb to Cpt that airport taxes can differ so much? And when one travel from Jhb to London airport taxes are more than the actual fair. Go buy the Saturday Star news paper. In it, there is a Travel section. Have a look when one travel company sells airfare from Jhb to London (with the same airline as the other company) but how the other travel company's taxes differ to a exuberant amount.Please help us with this!
Ant 11/24/2008 11:04:53 AM
Don't you think you'd look rather stupid if you were a travel agency and your special offer in an advert for the same trip as your competitors was R6000 more than their price. And as you say these airport taxes and stuff are constantly shifting so nobody knows the exact price of them until the ticket is issued - so how would you advertise that?
Ross 11/24/2008 11:25:30 AM
I had a similar feeling when it came to mangos amazing R10! off a flight with every 2 litre coke purchased at a total garage, Spectacular special really, must have taken hours of brainstorming around the boardroom table. Did not even bother to read the fine print on that one.
Iceberg 11/24/2008 11:40:52 AM
Lucky Chris, you can still afford to look at holiday packages ranging from R15000 - R30000. Soon no one will be able to afford them anymore, so your little gripes won't matter anymore. Besides, if you don't read the small print it's your loss, we all know that.
jimbo 11/24/2008 11:55:30 AM
Lets go one further , specify exactly how much the taxes are for different Airports. Why does nobody ever cater for singles, there are manay , many singles who travel alone , yet they are always having to pay extra
Badger 11/24/2008 12:09:58 PM
,,,cheaper for a return is because the airline is Guaranteed that seat is taken on the return leg. On a oneway, they have to find another passenger to take that seat. Hope this helps. Anyone else have a question ????
Ken 11/24/2008 12:26:03 PM
You are both right. Chris in that vendors hide taxes etc. in their adverts, and leelee in that the industry is way more complex than most would think. There are governing bodies with which to take up your grievences, most notably IATA. IATA are the body that grant airlines, operators and agents their license to do business, without which you simply may not operate. Take it up with them.
Badger 11/24/2008 12:43:31 PM
,,, cause it costs more to cater for you lonely hearts club people. That's why there is always a single supp quoted. 2 people stay in a hotel room, it's double lunch, double dinner, double drinks. 1 person is single lunch... should I draw you a picture ??? You people don't have a clue when it comes to travel. LeeLee, I am soooooooo with you on this one. They all have champagne taste, but beer money.
Hennie 11/24/2008 12:49:26 PM
One may be excused for accepting exclusions in these adds, but the ultimate pits is that these agents should be CONSISTENT!!! Either exclude flight costs in ALL your packages or include flights in all packages. Most agents will advertise two ?special deals? next to each other which just look incomparable. E.g. R4,000 for a trip to Vic Falls vs. R5,000 to Brazil. No brainer, until you read the fine print: deal 1 includes flights and deal 2 exclude flights! Be CONSISTENT!!
Sharen 11/24/2008 1:00:20 PM
I must admit Chris, you are so correct, i mean in sa it so often happens that a flight to amsterdam is advertised at almost half of what the true value is,i really do think that most travellers book on ball park figures that they are willing to pay for example 8000-9000 rand on a flight and will then book the flight even if its 8200 or 8499. Here in europe a new law has been passed that all airlines/agents have to show the inclusive price, think our advertising boards in sa should follow suit...
JP Strauss 11/24/2008 1:14:06 PM
I think it is only fair that travel agents are also forced to quote the entire price instead of just a part of it. If cellular companies can no longer keep mum on additional costs, then neither can travel agents.

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