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Judgment Day
04/06/2008 10:11  - (SA)  

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Chris Roper

The funny thing about being a white man sitting in the Magistrate's Court in Kempton Park is that you get a sense of what it must have been like to be a black man experiencing the justice system in the 80s.

All the staff are black, and they're speaking Xhosa. It's totally confusing, because you can't figure out if you're in the right court, if it's about to start, and if you're being sized up for the torture chamber. Oh, wait, we don't have those anymore.

The other funny thing is, of the approximately ten cases I sit through, nine involve black accused, and only one involves a white accused. Tsk tsk, you say - typical oppression of the poor. But here's the funny part - only one person gets convicted that day, and it's the white guy! Ha ha! I love this country.

And here's another reason I love this country. I'm State Witness Number 1, testifying about the theft of my laptop from the BA lounge at OR Tambo (read about it here), and State Witness Number 2 is a snappily dressed guy called Bongani.

The Magistrate asks Bongani for his name and occupation. "I'm Bongani, and I own an events company." The Magistrate and Prosecutor confer puzzledly, and then the Magistrate says, "What was your occupation on January 16?" "I was a sweeper in the British Airways Lounge," says Bongani. Now how's that for living in a land of opportunity!

Gloomy

Alas, that's the last cheery part of this story. The Kempton Park courtroom is pretty gloomy. There's a guy walking around selling The Sowetan and Beeld, which must say something about the type of people you generally find there.

The Magistrate is wearing glasses and sternly short hair, the Prosecutor is a big and burly, and the Public Defender is a short, pudgy guy with a random moustache. Almost all of the time, a translator has to translate from English into an indigenous language for the accused and witnesses, and vice versa so that the coloured Magistrate can understand.

Bongani gives his evidence in English. He's there because the two women allegedly stole my laptop then apparently tried to frame him for it. After he gives evidence, which is laboriously translated into Sotho for the two women (both in their 50s, both looking like typical downtrodden working grandmothers), he sits down next to me.

"That's incredible," he says. "That translator? He can't actually speak Sotho. What he's telling them bears no relation to what I said. And they call this justice? These people are infringing on people's rights here." Which I find commendable, given that the people he's talking about tried to frame him for a crime.

That's not the only language problem in this court. The Prosecutor and Public Defender appear to be entirely incompetent. The Magistrate, who is frighteningly competent, spends a lot of time coaching them on how to do their jobs. The Defender keeps asking rambling questions, and the Magistrate keeps trying to get him to make an actual point.

By this stage, State Witness number three is on the stand, a very dedicated BA staff member called Desiree, and she's getting extremely exasperated at the ridiculous questions. After 45 minutes, she's reduced to starting every sentence with "As I just told you..." The Magistrate snaps at the lawyer, "Please, Mr M, you KNOW how to do this," which is demonstrably more a statement of hope than fact.

No resolution

I could go on, but I guess you're getting the picture. The parade of alleged criminals is depressing. No grand thefts here, just a catalogue of petty, almost pointless thievery.

Four girls, who look to range from 18 - 20, are accused of receiving stolen goods - a half bottle of perfume, some old shoes, and so on. When the Magistrate finds them not guilty, on grounds of lack of evidence, they show absolutely no relief. Possibly because the translator has just told them "The badger flies at dawn," or something equally nonsensical. They just leave.

Somebody else is accused of taking money for a construction job, money donated to an old couple by their son, and then reneging on the deal. He's the white guy, and he gets dealt with harshly by the Magistrate, who lectures him on the effect he's having on the economy by creating distrust in small businesses.

My case doesn't get resolved - the Public Defender accidentally points out that one of the confessions made by the accused is a copy of an original, and the Prosecutor tries to argue that in fact it was a copy made in front of a policeman. The Magistrate explains to them that what they have in fact said is that the confession might be inadmissible, so they'll have to come back for a trial within a trial.

When the two of them realise that this will mean coming back the next day, they both try and backpedal. The Prosecutor mumbles something, the Defender tries to argue that in fact he was just kidding, and the Magistrate explodes - well, in a tight-lipped way - and explains to them just how incompetent they really are.

All through this, impassively, the two women - described as "poor mothers" by their colleagues - sit in the dock and wait, seemingly unaware that their lives are in the hand of a useless lawyer who doesn't know what he's doing. Thank goodness for the Magistrate - but I'm not sure there's always going to be a Magistrate to fix things up.

  • Chris Roper is the Editor-in-Chief of 24.com. Visit his blog on chrisroper.co.za.

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      Had to endure something similar
    04/06/2008 10:57
    What I kept wondering to myself whilst I sat there listening to a very similar dialogue to yours is - is this what happens in the real serious cases aswell? Being the land of opportunity works boths ways for sudden starts like Bongani AND criminals, petty or otherwise! Frightening stuff... love the blog Chris. - Greg
     
      The devil is in the detail
    04/06/2008 11:02
    Paradise lost, but you've got your Apple, huh. You were obviously just never PC enough. - Theresa
     
      SA Courts
    04/06/2008 11:04
    Yep and thats why the rich get away with things because they can afford competant legal reps, if ever there was an example for the revamp of the court system is this not it!!! - Mike N
     
      thats the law for you
    04/06/2008 11:16
    brilliant one mate Im from Namibia and I recently had a break in at my residence and luckily enough the culprit was found sleeping highly intoxicated, by the cops what's weird was that I speak fluent Victorian English the accused speaks fluent English the judge was from Zim the prosecutor was from zim and there was a translator translating to the masses that packed the tiny courtroom in one of the local dialects, the courts have become a regular sitcom - aaah the sweet smell of the law
     
      Ditto
    04/06/2008 11:21
    I recently had a case in the small claims court and felt much the same way. Although there were no prosecutors or public defenders I felt that the Commissioner was just going through the motions. He seemed very weary of people who could not answer coherently simple questions put to them. I definitely felt that justice was not being served. - Pete
     
      ...
    04/06/2008 11:23
    We still have torture chambers - they now call it the department of home affairs :) - Surette
     
      speaking Xhosa
    04/06/2008 11:24
    how do you know everybody spoke Xhosa! - Babalwa
     
      Had similar experience.
    04/06/2008 11:40
    Suggest a restructure (again) of justicial system. Not being racist, rather optimise available resources & infrastructure, etc. Why not have courts with legal people that represent the community they (supposed to) serve. Would this not mean more jobs (opportunities) for more people, being more effective and efficient (reduced need for interpreters) dispensers of justice? RSA need constructive/inovative ways to deal with backlog of criminals cases, but most important use of competent people. - Matrix
     
      terminology
    04/06/2008 11:45
    Sorry to hear about your terrible experience. I would, however, like to appoint the the presiding officers in Magistrates' Courts are in fact known as "magistrates", not judges. If you expect members of the legal profession to be competent, we are surely entitled to expect the same from the press? - candidate attorney
     
      facts straight
    04/06/2008 11:48
    Magistrate's court a Magistrate presides, High Court a Judge presides. - lawyer
     
      war
    04/06/2008 11:51
    It's nothing more than what one would expect. It's no longer surprising at all. The theme is very consistent. We'll all move on when there really is nothing left of our infrastructure. Pity we don't embrace our proud tradition of going to war. Talking and protesting does bugger all. - craig
     
      True
    04/06/2008 11:54
    Chris, what a good laugh! Very sad, but true. I am an attorney, and I can tell you the incompetence at the courts is one of the biggest reasons why I work for a corporate. For me it is the blind leading the blind.. - funny
     
      Ek Se! Chris..
    04/06/2008 11:56
    The difference between Old & New South Africa is that,one doesn't get convicted by or for the colour of his skin but by the content of his/her crime.What ever you've expirienced at the court was not an actual confusion either, but it was a frustration due to the fact that u suggested that everyone in that court spoke Xhosa of which i doubt considering the fact that Kempton Park is not situated somewhere at da Eastern Cape.Or was just that the court was full of the usuall Black suspects & admins? - Les-Maada
     
      How
    04/06/2008 11:58
    How did I know? Easy - I asked. - Chris Roper
     
      Magistrates' Court
    04/06/2008 12:03
    The presiding officer in a Magistrates' Court is a Magistrate, not a Judge. The latter you will find in the High Court. - tsiko
     
      Oops
    04/06/2008 12:04
    Sorry, lawyer people,I'll change judge to magistrate immediately. Thanks for the tip. - chris roper
     
      even MORE confusing
    04/06/2008 12:09
    It's funny - now that I think about it, I asked one person what language he was speaking, and then just assumed he meant everyone was speaking that language. It's even more confusing, but even more of an insight into how tricky it must have been in a court where Afrikaans or English was the language of choice. - Chris Roper
     
      @candidate attorney & @ Lawyer
    04/06/2008 12:10
    If you can give as much input into the judicial system than your stupid remarks we might get somewhere. It is not about the prestige but actually having justice done. By the way does a judge hand down a judgment and a magistrate hand down a 'magistratement'. Get a life and try and help getting justice to the people who pay your way, either the state with my tax money or your clients. - SM
     
      Nothing new
    04/06/2008 12:17
    As a former ?expert witness? I?ve had to sit through a number of days waiting to give evidence. I have to admit that your day in court was relatively productive as the court got close to one judgement, otherwise this scene is played out every day in every court in the country. And Surette you?re wrong, the real torture chambers are found in the Department of Hell (also known as the Department of (non)Health), where senior managers commit crimes against humanity - N Harding
     
      Newspaper
    04/06/2008 12:30
    Chris do you read the Sowetan or Die Beeld? - SAREL
     
      The real issue
    04/06/2008 12:30
    It is not an issue that people speak different languages, but one must ask whether there is truth in the allegation that the translators translate incorrectly. I would assume that incorrectly conveying the proceedings to a defendant in a criminal trial is something to be considered with gravity! How do people who are so utterly incompetent get appointed as prosecutors? Surely they should complete clerkships with reputable mentors who sign them off as competent before they unleash them? - Wernardt
     
      court
    04/06/2008 12:32
    Reminds me of the farcical morning I spent at Claremont police station reporting a break in to my son's car.If Home Affairs is the log leader for incopetance then Claremont police station runs a close second. Do these people actually know how to read and write? God help us. Peter - peter
     
      It's really scary...
    04/06/2008 12:34
    ...to think that people actually want to bring back the death penalty when our coutrrooms are this mixed up and confused - can you imagine being falsely accused of murder, you're facing the death penalty, and you have these 'Laurel & Hardy' prosecutors and defenders running your trial? Great column Chris, as always - hope you replaced your laptop, writing columns in long hand really sucks!!! - Rodders
     
      I Just Think
    04/06/2008 12:43
    that in any case where two people need to deal with each other it should be done in English, that is the language of the business and the world thus all sides do understand each other and no confusion what so ever in the future - Acid0
     
      Just imagine ...
    04/06/2008 12:49
    Training session. 12 trainees. Home languages as follows: isiZulu 3, Afrikaans 2, English 1, isiXhosa 2, seSwati 1, xiTsonga 1, sePedi 2. Only 5 readily understood English and only 3 seTswana, the only languages the presenter knew. Longest day of may life. What was supposed to be a 3-hour session turned into an all day event. - marna
     
      @ Funny
    04/06/2008 12:56
    Quite right.Excuse my ignorance but that funny typewriter that person uses in court for transcripts uses a form of braille does'nt it?Hey Chris, is'nt the moral of the story to have your laptop insured in order to avoid the tedium of our universal court system ?Thanks for the article and sharing your terrifying experience. - psycobabble
     
      Interesting
    04/06/2008 13:08
    A truly refreshing and funny (in a scary kind of way) article to give one a chuckle. I have heard before how Magistrate courts can be seen as a circus. Not to get too off topic though, point in case for Rodders re death penalty. One vital point though is that statistically 100% of death chamber victims never commit another crime. - Wesley
     
      Insurance?
    04/06/2008 13:17
    It was insured, Phsycobabble, but I'd still need to go to court to testify in a criminal case? - Chris Roper
     
      It's about justice
    04/06/2008 13:23
    I'm a qualified Paralegal who cannot get a job because our proffesion isn't as legalised as the proffesions of attorneys, lawyers, etc but yet we are much more help to our communities than the qualified proffesionals. I attended a trial of which a friend was the accused and i had more evidence on my friends case than his attorney did. The mere fact that he had told my friend that he could not get the information which i seem to have had really made me think. What are you paying you for? - Oi!
     
      Insurance
    04/06/2008 13:30
    Chris & Psycobabble. Also had my laptop stolen and had to spend 5 days in court. Yes it was insured. 3 days in court for the criminal trial and which was pretty much the same as Chris' experience (3 months suspended sentence and laptop still gone / broken). Another 2 days fighting the insurance because I did not take precaution to prevent laptop from being stolen. Broken car window (laptop in footwell of pasenger seat) and gun in the face does not count for proper precaution. Judge made them pay. - SM
     
      Chris seems to be confused
    04/06/2008 13:32
    First he assumed everyone spoke Xhosa and now he admits to only one person confirming this and that's how he came to his conclusion or assumption. (Coloured Magistrate/ Intepretation in Sotho) Chris, What else was confusing? was it the fact that there ware other languages used in court other English & Afrikaans. Is there anything else in SA right now besides finding the nagative in everything, how do you sleep at night. Just wondering and if you don't please spare us the missery. - dimpha
     
      Nice one Chris
    04/06/2008 13:38
    Justice is blind...and standing on a street corner with her "cousin" holding a plastic cup - MajorPain
     
      Oh okay Chris,good for you
    04/06/2008 13:39
    You must have felt like an accidental tourist then?The h is silent thats why I left it out. - psycobabble
     
      bad stuff!
    04/06/2008 13:43
    Wow! I had no idea it was that bad! aaargh!! This is so frustrating it's scary! I hope I never have to go to court, because I'll probably just end up trying to bribe whoever needs to be bribed. Nice article. - thatotherguy
     
         
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