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The devil's in the details
18/06/2008 08:31  - (SA)  

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    I had to laugh when I read the headline Hansie deserves closure on our very own News24. It's one of those statements that, if you read it more than once, becomes meaningless.

    Why does a dead man need closure? Surely he's pretty much untouchable by this time? And why does he deserve closure?

    What the writer of the column actually means, is that people who still think Hansie is a hero need closure, and by closure he means that the rest of the world should stop talking about Hansie so that his devotees don't have uncomfortable truths stuck in front of their faces, and can get on with worshipping Good Hansie rather than having to deal with Bad Hansie.

    The author of the column didn't write the headline. (That talent is given to very few people - I, for example, can't think of titles for my own columns.) In fact, he puts his case far more convincingly, when he writes "This matter needs public closure out of respect for Hansie's memory and his family".

    I can buy the latter part of that argument - it can't be nice having your loved one dissected by people who have no idea what the real person was like, and whose only aim is to score some points with their respective TV/website/magazine/newspaper audience. Out of respect for the family, one should tread carefully, and in an ideal world they should never be bothered by media coverage.

    Of course, the cynics among you will argue that, if the family is making a film about Hansie, then they're playing in the same space as the media, which changes things somewhat.

    But the first part of the argument - that the "matter", as it's euphemistically described, needs public closure out of respect for Hansie's memory - that I can't agree with.

    Clear heads

    Firstly, the thrust of anti-Hansie polemicists, like the ones attacked in the column in question (and they include the BBC for making the programme The Captain and the Bookmaker, Tim Noakes, Telford Vice and Richard Calland) is clearly that Hansie doesn't deserve respect. So to assert that they should stop showing a lack of respect, out of respect, is entirely illogical.

    Secondly, saying that we should stop analysing Hansie Cronje's criminal actions is about as nonsensical as saying "Elvis impersonators should stop wiggling their hips, out of respect for Elvis' memory". Or, even worse, "the matter of the Arms Deal needs public closure, out of respect for Jacob Zuma and his family".

    If the point of having heroes like good Hansie is so that we can learn from his example, surely the point of having villains like bad Hansie is also so that we can learn from his example? Because, after all, both are undeniably the same Hansie. And in fact, if you're a fan of Shakespeare, or the Bible, or the Harry Potter movies, you'll probably agree with me that all the best heroes are the complicated ones.

    It's like being a fan of the cool Elvis from the 60s, but getting upset when people talk about the drug-raddled Elvis from the 70s (or "The Fat Bastard Years", as my friend Stuart refers to them). Both Elvises are important to fans of music, and you can approve of the early Elvis at the same time as thinking the stuff he made in the 70s is rubbish.

    Now I'm not suggesting that Elvis and Hansie should be treated the same way, as their stories are very different. The one was a King who died on his throne, the other was dethroned by the King Commission. But for students of popular culture and the phenomenon of the celebrity icon, there are undeniable similarities.

    Scapegoat

    Both have fanatical followers who believe that they are guardians of the true flame, and that only they have the right to talk about, and judge, Elvis or Hansie. And both have become much more than the people they were - they're now part of the language of culture, and as such belong to everyone.

    One of the readers commented on the "Hansie deserves closure" column, and wrote this: "DW says: I read the Hansie Cronje story and I think he got a raw deal. He was wrong and was rightfully punished but he was definitely used as a scapegoat to try to teach everyone else a lesson, a lesson clearly not yet learnt as there is still match fixing in various sports."

    It's an intelligent comment, although the conclusion is flawed. Hansie is being used as an example, rather than a scapegoat ("scapegoat" implies that nobody else is being accused of the same thing). The biblical meaning of scapegoat, interestingly (courtesy of dictionary.com and Leviticus 16:8,10,26.), is "a goat let loose in the wilderness on Yom Kippur after the high priest symbolically laid the sins of the people on its head."

    In the biblical sense (and cultural sense, which some will tell you is the same thing), we need to keep the story of Hansie Cronje alive, to serve as an object lesson for others, in the same way that Hansie the consummate sportsman served as an example for young cricketers, before he blew it.

    It's not personal - it's what it means to be a hero. It's what it means to be a villain. It's what it means to be part of a cultural consciousness. But yes, sometimes it's just plain mean.

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      Hansie
    18/06/2008 08:48
    He was a good cricket player, but he was a crook, and he was not theonly one. If all his delirious fans had acknowledged these facts, things would have been a lot quieter by now. So as the knucklehead fans keep defending him, people like me will continue to call him a crook. Just like Zuma, Shaik and the like. - polokwanejohn
     
      Details
    18/06/2008 08:49
    Very good article, and so agree with you, but we will never learn that there are two sides to a story. - MJS
     
      Nice article Chris
    18/06/2008 09:01
    It's just not cricket.Also funny how contraversy sells almost as much as sex.Hansie became a tragic figure ever since he started crying in court.It took me a few years to enjoy cricket after the fixing debacle.Elvis is still king though and will never die.Maybe we just dont give Hansie the credit of having such an influence still after all these years.Closure?I dont think so. - psycobabble
     
      Bad Chris vs Good Chris
    18/06/2008 09:30
    Some may think there's is one Chris Roper. I think there are 2 Chrises, one is Chris Ripper who rips both Bad Hansie and Bad Elvis apart and the other is Chris Rapper who raps about the Good Hansie and the Good Elvis. Although it may seem the 2 Chrises are different, they are in fact one cool Chris Roper..... - Nic
     
      Elvis
    18/06/2008 09:32
    I agree with everything you say Chris except one.You are wrong when you say Elvis died on his throne.He didnt die anywhere he is still alive. he was spoteed in Parys last week - Elvis Fan
     
      Great column, as always...
    18/06/2008 09:49
    Spot on Chris, you've managed to point out both sides of the story without favouring one over the other, and you've STILL been funny about it!! 'One was a king who died on his throne, the other was dethroned by the King Commission' - PRICELESS!!! - Rodders
     
      Thanks
    18/06/2008 10:09
    Very good. Hansie was just a man, someone who failed our expectations of being perfect. Even though his family is making a movie about his life, does not mean we have to keep on digging at him. Moving on means going on with life while the others is kept stuck on the same old same old. - Amia
     
      Hansie fan
    18/06/2008 10:14
    I was a Hansie fan. When he was match fixing I lost all faith in him, He angered me but alas I have made peace with it. Now days I prefer to remember him in his good days but take the lesson learnt into account or else his punishment had no merit. - Rish
     
      What about princess Di???
    18/06/2008 10:18
    Hey forget Hansie, man, we should have a column about princess Di. - Donovan
     
      Being a public figure means...
    18/06/2008 10:20
    ...that you should be careful about your judgement calls. Hansie was a legend but unfortunately gave in to temptation. Unfortunately, a lot of white guilt has been thrust on him by people who need to clean out their own closets. - Gorilla
     
      well written
    18/06/2008 10:22
    I think that the article written by Arthur Turner yesterday was perhaps the poorest I have ever read on this site (and that is saying something). We live in a country crippled with corruption and crooks and people need to be held to account. Im certain that many of the same people deifying hansie are the ones villifying zuma and yengeni. This culture of acceptance of crime needs to go. - patrick bateman
     
      Teford Vice
    18/06/2008 10:57
    I have read a number of his columns in the past and he has a serious bias against certain groups in SA. I now take everything he produces with a pinch of salt. - MJ
     
      Hansie
    18/06/2008 10:57
    The BBC show was a joke. they turned it into a race issue instead of a money one. He sure had his faults but racism was not one of them. I was/am a huge fan of Hansie. Other international players did the same thing he did and they were allowed to continue with their career (wrongly so I think). We need to keep perspective. A great player who did something really dumb. Still a great player though. We did get to #1 in both forms of the game under his captaining. - cheryl
     
      Feet of Clay
    18/06/2008 11:02
    When you hero-worship a human being, please know chances are good that he/she has feet of clay. When that person is exposed, accept him/her for what he/she is and move on. To try and justify those feet of clay cause more problems than good. - GeorgeA
     
      Point is..
    18/06/2008 11:03
    I was also a big fan of the man, but the point is that he enriched himself illegally, and created doubt about the outcome of all the cricket matches I have ever watched. For that reason he does not get my respect any more. - Christo
     
      Please tellme whats the point
    18/06/2008 11:19
    ofletting stories out about some one when they are already dead and buried?What do you gain out of it?Nothing except your 5 minytes of fame,why slander some one when they can't defend themselves?You chris and people who think about you are pathetic,you are only out for sensationalism and nothing more - proud to be white
     
      Hero or Villain
    18/06/2008 11:41
    good heavens could anyone still be so stuck in the past? Leave Hansie and his Family alone. Do you also 'revisit' other dead people's history? Hero for one, is a villain for another. So you don't make mistakes? - Lourie
     
      The good, the bad and the ugly
    18/06/2008 11:43
    Good article again Chris - I'd have been happy had I written it myself. The King/throne comparisons were top-notch. I am however even more amused by commentators believing we may only discuss personalities currently still alive. As well as people who think his public exploits define his whole personality, whereas none of them probably knew him as a private individual - which is often in stark contrast to the public persona. (I have some experience of this, though it shouldn't be surprising.) - Jaco
     
      proud to be white (the poster)
    18/06/2008 12:02
    Mate, you can't slander somebody when they're guilty as sin, it's only slander when they're innocent. - Johno
     
      How good was Hansie anyhow???
    18/06/2008 12:12
    It was proven that he was guilty of bribes,etc, so the main question would be, in terms of cricket, was he really that good???can it be proven that most, if not all of his stats are not false???Fact is,he may have been a top family man but sports wise he was the complete opposite and for this he will always be the villian and never be seen as a SA hero again. - nWo
     
      Re:Please tell me whats the point..
    18/06/2008 12:13
    The point is... heroes & villians never die unless if they were neither Famouse or notoriuose.There's only two ways for the latter which are the Good & the Bad(Only that Adolf Hitler still udisputedly occupies the Ugly).But for Hansie , things just changed from Good to Bad & he left us to decide for ourselves at which position are we going to fielding him & that is not easy for us cuz the man was multi talented.Thats the point!! - Les-Maada
     
      But I thought ...
    18/06/2008 12:25
    ... that Elvis was abducted by those Rock & Roll loving aliens years ago ;-) Great stuff Chris. As for Hansie, people enjoy worshipping heroes and stoning villains. Nothing will change that. In my book Hansie was a great friend (if a bit of an idiot) for taking all the blame so the rest of the guilty teammates could keep their careers. - marna
     
      Funny thing that...
    18/06/2008 12:37
    Hansie was dragged off to court and went through all kinds of legal BS, lost his job and was banned from cricket for life. At the end of the day he was just a captain of a cricket team. Mr Zuma on the other hand was Vice Prez the country and took part in some seriously dodgy deals with some dodgy people went to court for rape etc etc and he gets made president of the ANC and possibly the country. Make's you wonder? If you're an ANC politician the law does not apply to you? - Mikey
     
         
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