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A labour of love
20/06/2008 08:39  - (SA)  

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Colleen Figg

When women start harping on about the entry of their children into this world, I edge away hurriedly. Put a group of four or more women together at a braai or any other social event and whilst they are hacking up the lettuce in the kitchen like good lady folk must, the subject will, sure as eggs is eggs, turn to childbirth.

Person A will ask person B in all (seeming) innocence how many children she has. Person B will give the number and before you know what's clobbered you they've moved on to how those particular children made their way down their screaming mother's birth canal into this cold and horrid world.

Usually the first person to describe these events will be fairly conservative, mentioning perhaps only a lengthy labour, the failure of her waters to burst timeously, or the fact that kid # 2 had to remain ensconced in ICU for a week after the event.

At this juncture person A will usually reply that her first labour went smoothly but the second dragged on for two days and nights until they had to prep her for a C-Section as the baby was getting severely stressed from the long delay.

She'll then throw in some ghastly factoids, such as how vomit came hurtling out of her mouth all over the obstetrician the moment the pre-med injection went into her veins, closely followed by other unplanned exits around the same time the baby decided to come naturally.

Person D will then interject with tales that outdo the first two in terms of grimness and general suffering. With glee she will report that she had to have fifty seven external stitches and twelve internal ones after her giant baby was finally hauled out by forceps of the kind and size that simply do not bear mentioning.

Appalling

Despite the apparently appalling subject matter I have noticed that nearly all women I have met derive a great amount of satisfaction from sharing these stories and attempting to outdo one another. They talk of screeching and clawing at their spouses in some kind of primal rather off-putting need for revenge or a levelling of the playing field, so to speak. They report nearly breaking the hands that they clung to in extremis.

I suppose it's a bit like the preening and strutting behaviour the male of the species engages in, in honour of the same occasion that nearly killed their wives (by all accounts). The slapping on the back and the hooting and general "well-done-boyo-what-a-man-you-are-here-have-a-cigar" nonsense is apparently very important and time-honoured.

Both behaviours strike me as very flamboyant and unnecessary, really. But human beings have always been very careful about constructing complex social rituals and ways of behaving help them treasure some or other kind of illusion that is seemingly rather essential to their well-being as a species.

I don't get it, myself.

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  Colleen ..
20/06/2008 09:43
You need new friends dear girl. - Anti
 
  Mine was even worse!
20/06/2008 09:44
Have I told you about that time I had to get 21 STICHES? No...never mind. Another GREAT article Colleen!!! - Paul
 
  ps
20/06/2008 09:46
Okay...why don't they have spell check on these comment facilities? It is STITCHES & NOT stiches. - Paul
 
  Can't relate
20/06/2008 09:47
It seems that it might just be circle of friends. I have never heart any friends, family or acquaintances talk in such a way. Although I must acknowledge that I may not be around the wives when they talk about these matters, I can vouch for the guys. Labour is something which most of us try to avoid. To further associate your children with pain, suffering and death are appalling. My recommendation, compare your values to your friends and check if it matches yours. - TJK
 
  it's just a pissing contest...
20/06/2008 09:47
... but wait for the disapproving glares when you reveal that you had to have a c-section! The thing about motherhood is that somebody's kid must always be smarter, more sporty - and the one who hurt his mother the most on the way out. 'Tis a social battle you won't win. - Leo
 
  A labour of love
20/06/2008 09:51
WOW!You obviously live in a very small world. I see childbirth as a wonderful experience and a true gift from God. - Liezl
 
  labour of love
20/06/2008 09:55
This had me in giggles as it is exactly what women talk about when in groups. I personally run a mile when they start, as next will be their darlings potty training! AAGGhh - susie
 
  Get a life
20/06/2008 10:01
"A labour of love"...pleeeeeease get a life & see the article for the tongue in cheeck that it is. Seems like you you lost your sense of humor, the 1st time you gave birth. I did the same with the 1st article I read of Colleen, but I found my sense of humor again...praise the lord! - Paul
 
  How true....
20/06/2008 10:03
Once, at a wedding of all places, the conversation at the table turned to childbirth. I am a single woman, with absolutely no intention of having kids. But, somehow, because i'm female, apparently I should be enthralled with the whole thing. Please, people. This is not a conversation everybody is interested in. - Kien
 
  I agree.
20/06/2008 10:27
Never have been clear on why women need to scare the c**p out of each other - it's just mean. Discussions on how painful c-sections, childbirth, epidurals & 38th week checkups are, turn mothers-to-be into terrified wrecks. None of these storys are half as scary as how your mother in law behaves when HER granchild arrives... - sarah
 
  Just thinking...
20/06/2008 11:00
You must have some really dumb friends who have no sense of worth other than being mothers... I can't say that I've ever had the missfortune of being part of one of these conversations. Most of my friends and I have kids but when we meet up we mostly chat about work, shopping, and our happy (most of the time!) homes and kids. I'm sure that it can't be good for the kids to hear (as I'm sure they will) how they ripped their mom from here to kingdom come! So Col - how many kids do you have??!!! - Zee
 
  beg to differ
20/06/2008 11:18
I beg to differ because I have been in many conversations involving women of different ages & this topic was never discussed in a way that it seems competative, but rather as a wonderful experience.although most of them agree that they will not go through again - dozi
 
  the discussions can be as painful as childbirth...
20/06/2008 11:43
When I'm out with my friends I get to either join the 'childbirth' discussion or the 'why we're emigrating' discussion (and often the 2 are related, 'we're leaving for the kids'). I've found myself a friend who can talk about other things and we sit aside and smirk at the 'mommy's' all through dinner. Should enjoy it while I can though, I'm sure that as soon as I'm ready to procreate I'll be sitting there too in rapt attention discussing c-section versus natural, or even Oz versus New Zealand! - Melinda
 
  Lol
20/06/2008 11:43
Try listening to these stories when you're 8 months pregnant. Yeah, these women outline the battles and tribulations and then end with a chirpy "but its a wonderful experience". :) Oh and to some of you, this is Colleen's personal experience, whats up with all of you who are trying to rectify her? Sheesh, lighten up! - Tanya
 
  Agree
20/06/2008 11:58
I've heard stories like this, then you get the whole "Natural is way better than C Section" and how the women pull people apart that don't go natural. It's pathetic, like there's nothing else goign in their lives, their only claim to fame is that they didn't have a C Section. Very sad. - Leigh
 
  That is why I refrain from having female friends
20/06/2008 12:01
They bore me to death. Being a married female with children myself, I simply do not share their endless chattering about childbirth, children, maids, cooking, husband behaviour, makeup, clothes etc.etc. The happenings in the wider world is much more interesting. - TB
 
  Totally agree, its disgusting...
20/06/2008 12:16
Get a bunch of girls together and the topic of conversation is always something gory. If its not the wonderful miracle of the disgusting act of childbirth, its their periods or some other bodily function that should remain private. I have 2 children that I love to bits but dearly wish somebody would find some dignified way of getting them from the womb to the world. Woman find that kind of thing fascinating and yet glare at their men when they rejoice in passing wind. What is the difference? - Karen
 
  Short labour is the best
20/06/2008 12:46
It must be a culture thing then. Whenever this subject is brought up with my friends, we brag about how quick and easy our labours were and how we did it and never required any stiches. We always pity the ones who have a long and hard labour and often blame it on their laziness and unfit lifestyles. This encourages other women to get out of their bums while pregnant and have some good excercise. Also we don't discuss this with women who do not have kids themselves, what's the point!! - khulie
 
     
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